Hicham el guerrouj world championships 1997

[yasseer1000]

non mais regardez l’algérien il n'a même pas pris la peine de saluer son guerrouj , c'est son voisin musulman quand même !

[joeb12321]

Im 8 and my fastest cc time is 16:50

[LordJasonGarfield]

@joeb12321 I don't believe you

[ManRealThe]

@LordJasonGarfield Who rthe fuck r u to believe or not? Fuck u!

[Anleoflippy]

It was a shame to Morcelli who won a gold medal at Atlanta Olympic in 1996 and can't even level with El in 1997 WC. This really proof that he purposely step on El foot in 1996. At 1997 WC, he did not win any medal. He deserved to lose cos he was a cheater!

[YiftertheShifter1]

@Anleoflippy This is proof you should never become a detective.

[ManRealThe]

@Anleoflippy Morcelli is a cheat mother fucker who can't compete with the best. Fuck that Algerian cheat piece of shit.

[azrzga]

VIVE MAROC ET VIVE L'ATHLETYSME AU MAROC ET IGUIDER SE REMPLACE EL GARROUJ INCHA ALLAH DANS LE FUTURE

[conanwow]

Glad to know morocco has someone in their history who worked for stuff and never gave up, i now how so much respect for El Guerrouj, i feel kinda good that im from morocco and we have the WR for mile

[maartenvanderpoll]

@tiziouzou2000 : No, El guerrouj is the best...

[marocainhtalmoute]

oh morcli le pauvre hihihi .

[joec9000]

1:48.8 last 800m :P

[STARNPRODUCTIONS]

@joec9000 praise Jesus every day my friend, he is awesome!!

[delewareboy]

4:49: 7 years later: Called it.

[takadi4ever]

اين هو الخلف

[eseperro213]

te da corraje como morceli vaja de velocidad los ultimos 50 metros pudo agarrar bronce hasta talvez plata

ya ni le importava a ese punto

[oujdalover]

hicham t es le meilleure

Moursli noureddine tu ne dois pas oublier ce que t as fait a atlanta sal tricheur

[MrMegafelix]

bravo hichame and fuck you nourdine al morceli..hicham is the best

[gsxrful]

hicham was a the legend of all legends

[eseperro213]

el guerrouj y el noureddine morceli

son bien delgados eso no se vee bien en un hombre

pero todavia fueron rapidos

[yugrten999]

gilipollas!!!

que eres un gilipollas !!! me oyes??

[eseperro213]

chinga tu madre puto

[samira76620]

hichaammm <3

Maroc <3  Le meilleuR

[mr1lover]

This guy is a BEAST !!!

[pur01mexicano]

his form is so perfect. i want it haha.

[YiftertheShifter1]

you're not the only one

[YiftertheShifter1]

Here is El Guerrouj's pattern:

Grand Prix (fast paced): in the lead between 400 to 500 to go.

Grand Prix (not as fast): 500 to 600 meter run from home.

Major race (early career, like this race): 700 meters to go.

Major race (later career): 800 meters to go.

[asadraza5367]

Look at the guy who won the bronze, so awesome!

[assholebrent]

does anyone has a contact for any one from the moroccon federation living in the Caribbean trying to travel and train there

[scoobysdeathwish756]

Lol I mistaked the 400 meter mark, I thought the 300 mark was the 4 and I heard the announcer say a "Particularly slow pace" at like.. 44 seconds lol...

[stickman47487]

sex

[GetUpAndTryAgain]

52.4 last lap

[bootymanager]

Who was is who tried to say that Aouita was the best 800m/1500m runner? What bullshit. Aouita was good over 800 and won an Olympic bronze, but he was better over the 1500 and longer. I think El G would've run 1.43 if he'd run the 800. Just look at his 1500 time per lap (55), take away 4 seconds (51) and there's a 1.42. No 1500m runners run the 800m anymore, except Ramzi and Baala.

[GetUpAndTryAgain]

ya know el guerrouj's pr for the 800 IS 1:42.

[binn797]

2:43 at 1100m, 2:55 at 1200.

that's 12 seconds, only el guerrouj

[deano27671]

Don't mean to burst your bubble, but if you look closely, the clock stops in a different place (the wrong place!) at 1200m for some reason. If you look at the previous 2 laps (i.e at 400m and 800m gone) the clock stops at the start line, which is the second "curve" about 4m further on. The 1200m time was thus about 2:56.0, meaning he ran the penultimate curve (from 1100 to 1200m) in about 12.7. Still very impressive!

[ouriemchi2003]

la revanche sur le croche pied de morceli

[ants2876]

Morcelis attitude was pretty crappy. I understand how he wasnt excited about a bronze, but to just tank the final metres and gift the bronze to someone else is a terrible attitude, especialy from a legend who should be a role model for young runners.

[548768]

Morceli is a cheater from the 90's. Guerrouj is the real deal - fair.

[deano27671]

Why was Morceli a cheat?

[Arabiansoultan]

fin yamik al-garuj, kunti kat-hamarna el-wjah

[dalsinor]

mais quelle poulet ce morcelli mais comme cette video a fait honte alalgerie viavaaaaaaa morrocoooooo dine moukoum

[dnsoft2000]

You should put morceli on tags since he still remains a legend for middle distance.

[548768]

Morceli is a cheater from the 90's. Guerrouj is the real deal - fair.

[GetUpAndTryAgain]

can anyone here tell me what C.R. and M.R. stands for? (i know they stand for some kind of record)

[deano27671]

Not sure where you saw them, but I would think they mean Championship Record and Meet(ing) Record!

[GetUpAndTryAgain]

oh okay thanks i've been wondering that for a long time

[BobBobGobGob]

hicham el guerrouj has the most beautiful running form

[alejandrop]

el gherrouj y cacho los mejores

[deano27671]

Has anyone else noticed, but the clock stops about 8m short of the 1200m mark. Look closely where the clock stops on each of the first 2 laps (on the 2nd curved line on back straight), & then see how it stops short of the 1st curved line on the 3rd lap! Therefore the 1200m time given of 2:55,6 is definitely wrong & is more like 2:56.5. This fits in with the split times before and after this point. So, EL G's lap times were: 61.2, 61.0, 54.3 (not 53 stated) and 39.3 for last 300m(52.5 last lap)

[jackkoooo]

the 1500m is the blue ribboned event. el guerrouj never really ran the 800m, if he did im sure he would have produced an amazing time.

[deano27671]

He didn't run the 800m because he probably didn't really want to come up against Kipketer! He also would have wanted to maintain his unbeaten record. I'm sure he could have run close to 1:43. but he didn't have the 400m time to run 1:41.

[prudenshu]

Being a 1500m runner is harder than a sprinter/middle distance. So kipketer has nothing on El Guerrouj.

[deano27671]

Where did you get that pearl of wisdom from!? It's commonly agreed that the 800m is the hardest event to train for, as it requires a balance of strength and endurance that is really hard to get right. Why do you think there has been only 9 men to break the WR in the last 70 years!!? 1500m/5000m runners are quite common place now, there have been very few in recent times that were great 800/1500m runners.

[prudenshu]

Sames goes for the 1500m.

[crimsonDead]

i completely agree wit you deano!

The 800 is an incredibly hard event to train for.

[prudenshu]

In your opinion, which event is harder to train for? the 800m or the 10,000m?

[deano27671]

800m requires more "specialised" training, in that the most successful athletes at the distance have to have the ability to be a reasonable sprinter but also the endurance to run a world class Mile. Running successfully at 800m in champs is also more difficult as there are so many permutations in an 800m and it is over so quickly, thus there is no room for errors. A great 10,000m runner can make a few mistakes in the course of a race and still have time to get back in to the race.

[prudenshu]

Can Kipketer run with the top 5,000/10,000m runners? NO! Long Distance runnners have a more extensive training regimen. Well, in long distance races, its okay to make mistakes, but you rely on your training to pull you through. I know for a fact that Kenenisa Bekele can run with the top 800m runners. Seeing a man win a 6 miles races is more respectable, than a man who doesn't even run a mile. My point is, 800m runner's training is NOTHING compared to a Long Distance runnner.

[deano27671]

Lol! Long distance runners obviously put in more miles, but that doesn't mean their training is more difficult. I don't know enough about Kipketer's training, but I know that Coe was capable of running 45 mins for 10 miles, beat Coghlan (5000m World Champ) & McCloud(10000m Olympic silver medallist) over 4miles on 800m training & was capable of running world class 5000m races on no specific training for that event. He was also able to run 45.5 for 400m.

[deano27671]

He trained as hard as any athlete has ever trained, and spent hours each week in the gym and lifting weights, as opposed to just running mile after mile. Where is the evidence that Bekele could run a 1:44 800m? Of course Bekele is one of the greatest athletes of all time, full stop. You really can't compare a great 800m runner to a great 10000m runner anyway & to say that one's training is harder than another without being intimate and privy to both athlete's training schedule is just silly.

[deano27671]

Coe's VO Max was 82 mls/kg/min, one of the highest ever recorded, and this was on about 60 miles a week. But he spent many hours doing other types of training that other athletes neglected or didn't do to the same degree.

[prudenshu]

Well, remeber you said " It's commonly agreed that the 800m is the hardest event to train for" And I think thats bullshit

[koolkurd82]

best 800-1600 meter runner my opinion is sebastian coe

[simox81]

koolkurd82 not even close to El G, El g is one of the best and rare athletes ever, thanks El g for eveything thanks for being simply the best

[deano27671]

What do you know about Coe? The facts don't support your opinion! EL G did NOTHING over 800m, so how can you say he was better than Coe over 800m/1500m!?? Coe beats EL on number of world records and Olympic medals! Yes EL G is one of the greatest athletes at any distance ever, but so is Coe, and his record is better than EL G over the 2 "classic" middle distance events.

[sslider08]

the best 800m/1500m is said aouita

[ghostdogmut]

if your talking about best 800m/1500m runner peter snell has to be ranked right up their. only man ever to double up the 800m and 1500m at olympics. he held the world records for the 800m,1500m, half mile..(which is a tiny bit more than 800m they ran it in the old days) and the mile. didnt run as fast as el g but dominated the middle distances which i agree with deano are 800m and 1500m.

[deano27671]

Yes, I agree. It's probably between Coe and Snell. I think it was more difficult to dominate in Coe's era, and he was further ahead of his contemporaries than Snell at 800m, but then 3 Olympic golds are 3 Olympic golds! Hard one to call.

[deano27671]

Oh, and Snell didn't ever hold the 1500m WR record; it was the 800m, 880yds and the Mile!

[jackkoooo]

no one should make any racist comment or any comment which implies that.or which implies that someone was using and illegal substance, without being found guilty. the comments i made, were made for a person which understands and follows the 800/1500m, i can see how they could be misinterpreted by the general public as racist. rightfully they have been withdrawn.

[deano27671]

Political correctness gone mad! Thats part of the reason that the world is in the mess it is! Making a comment about someone, who happens to come from a different country, that others do not agree with does not constitute racism! I haven't accused anyone of the same for dismissing Coe!? People shouldn't be afraid to give their opinion on something without fear that someone is going to play the racist card!

[jackkoooo]

that's why you don't get fast sprint tracks and fast distance tracks. There are a few exceptions where an athlete has produced a fast times and even wr, vice versa. But the general rule applies. I know i am contradicting my earlier statements.

[jackkoooo]

the improvement of tracks have helped the sprints e,g Tokyo wc 1991. but have actually hampered the distance races. in Tokyo all(a lot) the distance runners complained of the track was causing them problems. in 96 Atlanta geb complained of the track. where another sprint wr was made.

[jackkoooo]

synthetic tracks were first introduced in 1968olimpics, every since in the 70s,80s,90s,00s, have been used.

[funkymario]

also because of a very bad and fast pacing in Memorial Van Damme 2002 EL G was forced to run a 51sec first lap in the 1500 then continue at near world record pace, then close in 52 secs to get away from lagat and win in 3:29, this is simply unbeliabable almost 1:44 (51+52) inside a 1500 race, he did certainly the 1:42 time written in wikipedia.

[funkymario]

also now your comments are getting better, Dont try to fool me with your diplomatic comments, THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO REASON TO MENTION DRUGS and EPO in the comments of AN EL G video UNLESS YOU ARE SUGGESTING that EL G was on EPO.

[funkymario]

Also your english maybe beyond my skills (you want a medal for that? i speak fluently 4 languages and you ?), but the truth is beyond you, and the truth is that EL G is the greatest middle distance runner ever,

[funkymario]

according to wikipedia and britanica, Middle distance events range from 800 to 5000, this is really funny you concentrate on the 800 since EL G is superior than seb in the remaigning 90% of the middle distance events (king of the middle distance events : the 1500(WR) then the Mile (WR) 2000(WR),3000(Second fasterst ever),2 miles and 5000.

[deano27671]

Wrong! Encyclo. Brit. says 800m to 3000m, and then stipulates that most observers recognise it only up to 2000m, stating that 3000m plus is "Long distance" As the 2000m, or even the 3000m come to that, are not championship events, whereas the 800m is, then it would look like the 2 main events are 800m and 1500m! Coe's record over the 2 are clearly superior to EL G"s.

[TheDrLighthouse]

@funkymario You're talking to yourself. Are you retarded?

[sslider08]

diano is a sick british dude who goes to every el guerrouj video and talks shit...he needs to get a life

[deano27671]

People always revert to name calling when they are frustrated that they can't maintain a valid argument backed up with facts! ;0) I really wouldn't waste my time going to "every el guerrouj video"

[deano27671]

Get real! There are comments and discussions on drugs on many youtube videos, including ones on Coe! I never stated he was on anything accept when someone suggested he regularly ran 3:25 in training!! Do you not believe in freedom of speech? I was purely using this video to raise the point that EPO emerged in the 90's and I was interested to see what others felt about it.

[funkymario]

that being said, just dont be a racist or a hater, dont accuse athletes of taking drugs and nobody will remove your comments. infact its really regretable that someone with a decent athletics knowledge like you is a hater, you may now a lot about athletics but you still didnt get what athletics are all about, Peace, Love, Humanity, tolerence.

[deano27671]

ABSOLUTE RUBBISH! And yet another example of incorrect facts used to create a myth! That race is on Youtube, and it is clear that though the pacemaker went through in 51.9, EL G was 12-15m back in 3rd and went through in c. 53.5. He went through 700m in 1:37.7 and was further behind the pacemaker at 800, which he went through in about 1:52.6. Time at 1100m 2:37.6, 1200m in 2:50.4 (with Lagat, Baala and co. right behind pushing him.

[deano27671]

That gives split times of 53.5, 59.1,57.9 and 39.5; middle 800m= 1:58!? First lap plus last lap = 1:46. But the middle 2 laps were almost 2 minutes! Coe ran a 3:31 in Stockholm in 81 with first 2 laps of 52.4 and 56.7 (1:49.1) and run the remainder of the race on his own, 25m infront of rest of field. That is incredible endurance! And whatever you say, ask the likes of Watman, Matthews, etc, and they will all tell you that tracks are faster now than in the early 80's

[deano27671]

Compare Coe's LA win in 84 (3:32.5) to EL G's World title in 03 (3:31.8). Finishing times v. similar, as were the first 2 laps; EL G 58.2, 58.1; Coe 58.9, 58.0. Their last 700m were identical at 1:35.5. But from thereon in, Coe was quicker. Last lap, EL G 53.9, Coe 53.2, last 300m- EL G 40.5, Coe 39.2, 100m- EL G 13.8, Coe 12.7! This shows Coe was speeding up in the closing stages more than EL G off a v. similar pace, meaning he had unused reserves! WR's do not tell everything!

[deano27671]

And don't forget Coe had already run 4 rounds in perhaps the most competitive Championship 800m in history!

[sslider08]

was seb coe playing the guitar and relaxing with the huge gap he had vs baala in the final strides...your stats are meaningless my friend...so funny

[funkymario]

First we are not talking about a difference of 15-20 years, because Morceli ran 3:27 just 4 or 5 years after seb retired, during that time nothing has changed, then 2 or 3 years later EL G ran 3:26 and since he retired and in the last 5 years we are now even back to the level of performances of seb, cram and the late 80's era, thats mean it has nothing to do with shoes and tracks, EL G, Lagat And Moreceli are simply more talented than Seb in the 1500.

[deano27671]

Umm!? Coe was Olympic Champ in 80 & 84, EL G broke record in 97, won Olymp in 04. That's 15-20 years difference in anyone's book! If you were familiar with split and finishing times in major Champ races over the past 30 years, then you would know that what has been produced in the last 3-4 years does not compare with what Coe, Ovett and Cram were doing 20 years ago!

[deano27671]

At the end of the day, Coe won more Olympic golds at the distance than EL G, Lagat or Morceli, and broke more WR's at 1500m/Mile than any of them! You fail to back up any of your claims with stats!

[funkymario]

i agree, your comments are definitely diplomatic, buy i am just a honest person and i dont like diplomaticy because all people involved in politics and diplomacy are liars, sometimes criminals, that's why i dont vote.

all your "diplomatic" comments "suggested" that EL G was on EPO, you left my no choices but to remove your comments. you should listen to your idol who himself admited:

Sebastian Coe:

"He's the best I've seen by a long way,"

[kiwizzarrd]

The subtleties of the english language are obviously beyond you! I never said EL G's times slowed down in the early '00's; I said that athletes' times generally slowed down. If you look at the fastest times in the last 3 or 4 seasons, they are considerably slower than in the mid- late 90's.

[deano27671]

Sorry. was using a friend's computer, so the previous comment was also mine! You are way off the mark calling me racist, which I see you choose to completely ignore. I think the real reason you deleted my comments was because you disagree with my comments and are unable to argue against them.

[deano27671]

If Coe did make that comment you need to put it in context. Many more ex athletes and commentators have said Coe is the greatest "middle distance runner" ever, the definition of which you and others choose to ignore. You can't be the greatest if you have achieved nothing at 800m.

[funkymario]

actually,your point was clear for you seb is the greatest middle athlete ever and because EL G is some 3 or 4 secs faster than him in the 1500m he must have been on EPO. now about factually wrong comments, you said that the fast times of EL G suddenly slowed down in the early '00's because of reliable epo tests, thats what i call a 100% factually wrong comment because between 2000 and 2004 EL G ran many many 3:26 and 3:27,28,29 performances. so please give me a break.

[deano27671]

Lol! We are talking about a difference of 15-20 years! Of course times will get quicker, due to advances in training, medicine, shoes, tracks, pacing, etc. A run in the 80's would be at least a second faster on today's tracks. With your reasoning then Peter Elliott must be a greater 1500m runner than Herb Elliott, because he ran 3 seconds faster 30 years later!!

[deano27671]

And Coe was not a pure 1500m runner, unlike EL G (for most of his career), but was always a 800m/1500m runner. No one has achieved as much as he did over both distances, with the possible acception of Snell. There aren't many athletes who can claim to be double Olympic champion in their 2nd best event!

[jackkoooo]

funky Mario i agree 100% with you. every comment. i was trying to make the suttle point but it must have been missed! disguised was a hidden message in 2004 elg ran 3.27.64 and the age of 29,when he was not at his peak. with the ere of epo testing. to make any suggestion that he was using any illegal substance in 100% unfounded.

[funkymario]

i removed all the racism, Epo and comparaisons comments, WTF is wrong with you guys ?, every athlete is innoncent untill proven guilty, and each era has its great athletes, Seb is one of my favorite athelete ever, and he was definitely the ruler of the 800/1500 untill aouita and cram came the scene, then Morceli was the best untill EL G came the scene, untill now EL G is the best of them overall, so untill someone break all his World records, stop the crap and just enjoy the video.

[deano27671]

That is your opinion, and just because you posted the video on here does not give you a monopoly on the truth! Firstly, do your research; Coe wasn't superseeded by Cram or Aouita over 800/1500m. Coe held his own over 1500m until 89, recording the fastest time in 86 and winning the Olympic title in 84!

[deano27671]

At 800m he was beaten once by Cram when he was ill, and beat Cram on both other ocassions. He never ran against Aouita, who chose to run the 5000m in LA and to avoid Coe in the subsequent meet in Zurich. Aouita and Cram were never as good as Coe at any time over the shorter distance.

[sslider08]

because he was scared of him that's why...aouita was the best of the three brits "quoting seb coe"

[deano27671]

?? Don't know what you are referring to here! I didn't know Aouita was British!?! Lol. Read through what you wrote!

[funkymario]

sslider08, i think you need to get a life too, i saw you comment on every possible EL G video and talk shit of other legends, no respect to ther atheles like seb,cram, baala,

however, deano27671 is way more sick than you, and really need mental medical help, total idol worship, what a hypocrite retard, both of you stop commenting and worshipping your idols in every possible track and field video. can't you just enjoy the races and shut the f..k up ?

thank you.

[RedouaneleMarocain]

@funkymario sorry but what does baala do amog the legends?

[deano27671]

You are wrong when you say EL G "is the best of them overall"! He is a 1500m/5000m runner for goodness sake. He may well be the greatest 1500m runner ever but not over the "middle distances" He isn't as good as Coe or Cram in terms of the 800/1500. Aouita and EL were 2 of then greatest ever over 155/5000m. I don't understand why people don't get that!? It's like saying that Moses was a better hurdler than Jackson, or Johnson was a better "sprinter" than Lewis!

[deano27671]

Sorry! Made a few typo errors in previous comment! Meant to say that Aouita and EL G were the greatest ever 1500/5000m!

[jackkoooo]

it took geb/bekele years to break the 13 min barrier. it took komen years to break the 13 min barrier. elg did it at his first go 12.50 min if i can remember.if he trained for the 5000m, we can only guess what times he would have produced.

[deano27671]

What!? So Cram, Ovett, Aouita, Walker, Bile etc are not serious competitors!? Do you know anything about the history of the event. All those names would be in most experts' top 12 of all time. You show no respect for these great athletes with comments like that. It's obvious you got into the event during EL G's time, but have no appreciation of what others did before him!

[deano27671]

There are several reasons EL G ran so many times under 3:30; not least the golden league series, where he could run every week if he wanted to, with his own army of pace makers. This set up just didn't exist in the late 70's and 80's. Also, tracks are faster today, and there was widespread use of EPO in the 90's without a reliable test to catch culprits. It's strange how all those fast times suddenly slowed down in the early '00's!

[funkymario]

thats not true, in 2001 EL G missed his world record by only 0.12 secs (3:26.12) and run another 3:26.something performance in the same season, in 2002 he ran 3:26.89 and many 3:27 to 3:29 performances, in 2003 he ran 3:28 and finally in 2004 he ran 3:27 again. stop your crap about Doping and EPO please because to me you look like a racist who cant accept that EL G is the greated middle distance runner ever.

[sslider08]

aouita too had two tripple record breaking seasons and El Guerrouj also ran an unofficial 1:42.70 for the 800 m in a time trial u can check wikipedia

[jackkoooo]

the greatest 800 runner ever was Wilson kipketer by far.There are 20 men who have run sub 1.43. a total of 60 times. wilson kipketer has 20. seb coe has 2. and he only has 3 in sub 1.44.

[jackkoooo]

b4 anyone gives me any stats, what i mean by great times are sub 1.43 in 800meter and for the 1500m sub 3.28 if el g wanted the 800m wr he would have had to sacfifce the 1500m times.seb coe ran amazing times with those old style tracks,were you would lose 0.5 sec in 800m.

[jackkoooo]

seb coe was a great 800m runner.el g was the greatest 1500m runner. with 800 you need more strength based training. The 1500m is a combination strength speed endurance. You cant have two great times in both events without sacrificing another.

[Adin07]

Greatest runner ever

[rebpharoh]

800m, i mean

[sslider08]

yeah....i saw el guerrouj run a 1:42 in a work out

[rebpharoh]

the man could have been world class at 1500 metres w/o a doubt.

[sslider08]

revenge a year later....dima el guerrouj

[sslider08]

ohh i forgot his records over the mile and 2000m and his performance over the 3000m 7:23min second of all time behind komen's record which he did in his only run at the distance

[sslider08]

deano27671...u must be a crazy man my friend...if u don't consider the invicible El Guerrouj the greatest middle distance ever then who do u consider the greatest? the queen distance of middle distance running is the 1500m..and this just took it to another level that nobody even came close too...and ur telling me he's not the greatest!!! if more than 32 races under 3:30min is not enough then u must be out of your mind or just simply jeolous

[deano27671]

No, traditionally the classic "middle distances" are the 800m, 1500m and 1 Mile. EL G is possibly the greatest 1500m runner of all time, even though most of his titles were basically carefully orchestrated paced runs by his countrymen; which wouldn't have been allowed in previous decades. He did nothing at 800m, despite "claims" that he ran 1:42.7 in training which someone added to Wikipedia and now it would seem is regarded as given!

[deano27671]

I doubt that time & wouldn't recognise it as true unless there was evidence. Anyone could claim great things in training! For me (and many others) Seb Coe is the greatest middle distance runner of all time as he won medals at BOTH distances over a long career & is the only person ever to hold all 4 records from 800m to 1 Mile simultaneously. And this was in the most competitive era, with Ovett, Cram, Aouita, Cruz, Bile around. EL G was not invincible and got beaten twice in the Olympics.

[sslider08]

middle distance event are : 800,1000,1500,1 mile,2000, and 3000m my friend and the one distance that is always in the golden league no matter what is the 1500m: el guerrouj has all the rcords from 1500 to the 2000 and the 2nd fastest 3000m of all time on a solo run and he owned ngeny in the 1500 & 1 mile

[deano27671]

If you look in most reference books, middle distance is 800m and 1500/Mile. The 2000m & 3000m are rarely run and between middle and long distance. If you want to include them, fine! Coe still broke records at 4 of those distances and EL G only at 3 of them. Coe broke the Mile record 3 times, EL G once, Coe had 2 Olympic golds at 1500m in 2 attempts, EL G 1 in 3 attempts.

[deano27671]

Coe is still the 2nd fastest ever at 800 & 1000, 27 years after he ran them, and in the pre EPO era! If EL G is still the second fastest ever at 1500 & 1mile in 2024, then he might have a better claim to that accolade!

[sslider08]

if u gonna talk about the versatile runner my friend that would be said aouita by the way held more records than your hero coe: 1500,1mile,2000m,3000m,and 5000m five records aouita was a great 800m runner supreme at 1500/1mile, and of course king of 5000m: remember the first man ever under 13min

[deano27671]

I consider Aouita to be the greatest ever 1500m/5000m runner. But I have to point out a few things! Firstly, he never held the Mile record (as you state he did)His fastest was 3:46.78! So, he held records at 4 distances, the same as Coe, though none of his lasted as long as Coe's 800 or 1000m. Also, he only won gold in major Champs over 1 distance, 5000m, whereas Coe won at 2; 800m & 1500m!

[sslider08]

and ngeny has the wrold record over 1000m, if an athlete could play with his opponents the way el guerrouj did what do u say about that? and who said he won all his major championships with pacemaking except for 99,what about 97,01,03, 04 olympics are u kidding me or what? he toyed with the best of them from baala, lagat, ngeny, ramzi, chouki, bekele, you name it...they feared him my friend...the greatest

[sslider08]

ohh and before i forget hicham is also a double olympic champion now tell me where sebastien coe matches el guerrouj with four consecutive world championships and 3 consecutive indoor world championships including one at 3000m..and don't be telling me 7 world championships were carefully orchestrated that is ludacris

[sslider08]

aouita run races from 800m to 10000m he was a machine my friend u can search his video on youtube: arabian knight:the story of said aouita and you'll see for yourself sebastien coe and steve cram talking about his greatness...if you didn't know in morocco they have the trains named after him...lol

[djn5270]

greatest middle distance runner ever!

[deano27671]

"Maybe" the greatest 1500m ever, but not the greatest "middle distance" runner ever! He would have had to have done something over 800m to be even considered for that accolade!

[awecorde]

buenisimo

los dos mejores mediofondistas españoles de la historia!!!