A ring doesn't determine everything. But if Lebron's on a team with D-Wade, Chris Bosh, Haslem, and Bibby and still can't win a ring, then he shouldn't and can't be compared to Kobe with 5 rings and Jordan with 6.
@explodingpimp Then again, they were only together one year. I know the Celtics did it in '08 but their lineup was stacked compared to the Heat's lineup in '11.
@SmoothMM 3 Superstars in 1 team isn't stacked? And by the way, Ray Allen PP and KG is like 3 Chris Bosh, Heat has 2 of the top 5 players in the league, seriously you can't make an excuse with that.
@mv996 Uh, no. Don't ever disrespect Ray, Pierce and KG like that again. KG, Ray and Allen play better than Bosh, so don't say that those 3 were like "3 Chris Bosh" in 2008 'til now (even though Bosh is a good payer). Also, "3 Superstars on 1 team" doesn't mean they're STACKED; a 12-man rotation with good chemistry and skills would make a STACKED TEAM because everyone plays well. That's why Dallas won this year; they could rely on their starters and bench for offense or defense.
@mv996 Plus, 2 key role players -- Haslem and Miller were playing through injuries they were rehabbing -- so that gave Miami a blow to the gut. Granted, I don't know if Miami would've won if they were healthy, but it's still a thought. In 2008, the Celtics were healthy for the postseason.
@eldrkzdrgn Dude, that's what I was arguing! If they were good enough, they would have won. I was arguing why Miami's team wasn't "STACKED" or as dominant as people made them out to be, and why this team didn't succeed in getting a championship this year (but could probably get one next year). There are numerous teams like Miami that need a few more tweaks to get over the hump and get a championship (or atleast contend).
If Rings determine how good a player is, then Derek Fisher (5 time champion) is better than: Carmelo Anthony Amare Stoudemire Dwight Howard Shaquille O'NEal Lebron James Dwyane Wade Steve Nash Chris Paul Derrick Rose Tracy McGrady Paul Pierce Patrick Ewing Joe Johnson Blake Griffin Kevin Durant Russel Westbrook Shut the fuck up and think before you make ignorant remarks
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@ajmjdj123 Thats a complete overstatement. Dont get me wrong i fucking hate lebron but Derrick hasnt proved himself in the playoffs (not like lebron has either) but he did win the east 1 year.
There's no way Rose is better than LeBron. He might have had a better year this year, hence he's MVP (but even that's debatable). LeBron still had better numbers than Rose. If LeBron continued to play with the bums in Cleveland he would have been MVP for a 3rd str8 year GUARANTEED! Playing with Wade and Bosh hurts his mvp chances like LeBron himself said...It's true!
@Kingjd87 But Rose didn't have Wade or Bosh on his team and LBJ actually had a better chance because Rose almost Carried his team while LBJ could have assisted more and score
LMFAO! There was no way Kobe would have won MVP in his early days. Tim Duncan, KG, ,AI, Nash... were all more impactful players than Kobe from 97-04 (his years with Shaq). Kobe even without Shaq 05-07 never won an mvp. He won a pity MVP in '08. KG should have got it for his 2nd time!!
it may be impossible at this point but i'am hoping that someday, this two HOF's will team up and win a cahmpoinship together. But i guess it will never happen :(
@xxbpattxx Athlete doesn't make you better, Jordans almost 50, I'm a better athlete at age 22 right now than he is, how does that make me better than him?
Lebrons been doing better, I forgot, how old is Kobe? 32 right? Lebron is 25? Let me know when Lebron gets a consistent jump shot and a clutch 3, or let me know when he can score 81. Athleticism doesn't make you the man, skills do, that's why Kobe can still do it 3 years past his prime.
@Malesori88 Ya because they're suppose to be a super team right off the get go lol, Kobe has always had many good players around him... Not just Gasol and Shak. No point in aruging over the internet doesn't get you anywhere. they're both amazing players i don't get why people hate on lebron so much.
Boston did it with 3 stars PAST their prime and no disrespect to them but Pierce was never as good as Lebron even in his prime and Ray Ray was never as good as D Wade. You're reasoning is senseless, want me to state Kobes team? In the western conference in 06 where it was stronger than ever before Kobe got to the playoffs with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, George, etc... These players aren't even in the NBA and Kwame is a joke. So no Kobe hasn't always has amazing players...
@xxbpattxx By the way, if Lebron was better than Kobe at a younger age then why did Kobe score 53 in 3 quarters at the age of 23? or average 30/6/6 in 2002-2003 in a triangle offense designed to limit what Kobe can do? He did that with another superstar on his team, and yes he was efficient it was one of his most efficient seasons ever. I don't hate Lebron just stop comparing someone undeserving, until recently you couldn't even COMPARE Kobe to Jordan, he had to earn it with 2 more titles.
@Malesori88 you just spat out LITERALLY some of the dumbest most incoherent shit i've ever heard. nothing you said remotely resembles an argument that could compare the skill of 2 players in basketball. let me set you straight. lebrons career points per game is the 3rd highest in nba history, the 2 who have him beat are not named kobe (Wilt Chamberlain at number 2 and Michael Jordan at number 1). And Lebron is more efficient then kobe career-wise and better in every category.
@Malesori88 and if you want to talk about triangle offense and all this other bullshit-- oh i forgot to mention something else. TEAMS win titles PLAYERS NEVER have. otherwise TEAMS wouldn't bother getting more than one player on the floor (jordan sure as shit didn't win it alone and he's by FAR the GOAT). ok now remember your efficiency and all this other subjective talk (kobes fg% is not as good as lebrons not sure where you're going with that).
@Malesori88 there's also a stat called win-shares, and in case your wondering, kobes win shares per 48 minutes career avg is .188 with his career HIGH being .224 (LOL) lebron's win share per 48 minutes career AVERAGE is .223 and his career high is .318 (MICHAEL JORDAN's career high is .321 and his second best is .317). and had basketball-reference kept track of kobes win shares before 1999-2000 (when he was on the bench), then he wouldn't even average .1
@Malesori88 and the best part is even though there are some idiots that think kobe could be considered better than lebron (which has been proven wrong again and again) but in case your wondering why kobe is never an mvp candidate (and shouldn't have been in the 2010 finals), kobe's win share ranking (against the rest of the players in the league each season) are the following (since the lakers dynasty 99-00): 7, 8, 6, 4, 7, 9, 8, 7 lebrons since his ROOKIE season are: 9, 5, 6, 5, 1, 1 :)
@Malesori88 and a few more tidbits, Lebrons average efficiency rating, is number 2 IN FUCKING NBA HISTORY. (Michael Jordan is number 1). Lebrons efficiency rating average is 26.8 (Jordans is 27.9), Kobes career high is 28.0 (ROFL .1 more than jordans AVERAGE), Jordans career high is 31.7 and Lebrons career high is 31.7 as well. Please explain to me on what planet your from if you think Kobe is better or even as good as Lebron?? Cuz it's definitely not Earth.
@jonnieos Dude stop with these garbage ass stats. Efficiency rating is understood..fuck win shares. 5 titles to ZERO and a skill set that is untouchable by anyone on earth. As a pure basketball player..Kobe Bryant is better. Point blank period. Wtf are you talking about win shares for? Fuck win shares! Gimme 5 championships. And Lebron had a good enough team to win a championship because he's a great player himself. But his basketball skillset does not match that of Kobe's. He's still amazing
@Gibster777 Shut up with the fuckshit ring argument. Teams win rings players don't. Jordan needed a much different roster to win his first ring, so don't fucking play that ring shit with me. It's always gonna take a team to win it so don't blame the shit on one player that can already do a hell of a lot more for his team than Kobe can or ever has. So fuck your rings, and your bitching at me for using win shares which is an actual math that proves that Lebron is MUCH better at winning as a PLAYER
@jonnieos lol fail? lebron having troubles winning this season with all the weapons he needs dumbass!!! who said kobe has better team mates than lebron?
@airhiceable kobe has always had better teammates than lebron every fucking season till now. and you think that 3 scoring title contenders that were carrying their teams in their prime are just gonna gel in 20 games, when they had been apart of the same franchises for YEARS? get over yourself kid. come back in a few years and tell me how much trouble the heat had and how many rings they got. 20 games in you shouldn't be saying shit
@airhiceable and by the way their bench is garbage, they have a very poor selection of big men other than Bosh who is a light-jump shot power forward, not that much of a big man for the paint. Udonis Haslem is out and Mike Miller (one of the leagues best 3pt shooters) won't even have his first game with the Heat till January.
@jonnieos Kobe can make his teammates better and Lebron can't, that's what makes Kobe the BETTER PLAYER! PS: Lebron shouldn't be linked with Kobe, Lebron still has a long way to go dumbass!
@jonnieos You cluck fuck!! If you base an argument about Lebron being better than Kobe on win shares in front of any knowledgable basketball mind and they will laugh in your face. The game of basketball is more than your fucking win shares. He has a skill set that is better than Lebron's, plain and simple. He's a better ball handler, a better shooter, higher basketball IQ, better post game, better perimeter man to man defense (not the coming from behind to block someone bullshit).
@jonnieos Kobe is a lockdown defender. Lebron doesn't lock up, he's a solid defender but he blocks a bunch of shots and thats about it. And when I said he had a good enough team..I meant he had a good enough team even in Cleveland. I'm not going to say anything about Miami. Season just started. Athleticism adds so much to Lebron's game that when it dwindles, you will be able to compare their actual basketball skills and notice that it's not as close as you think. I am not downtalking LBJ's game.
@finerer That was just tremendously stupid to say. One man can't win a play off game. He don't got a ring cuz the team he played for (Cavs) was garbage. All this ring talk is the stupidest and most ignorant thing I've ever heard. The ring don't make the player, the PLAYERS make the ring. He brought the Cavs up from losing almost every game to a 75 percent chance of winning any game they played. I'm sick of hearing all this ring talk.
@finerer ur a fucking fag. you have 0% of Lebrons skill. How much of a Lebron hatter do you have to be to talk shit about Lebron in a video that has nothing to do with him
@finerer ooooh I understand now. A ring determines how good a player is and not the other awards and statistics. So Brian Scalabrine is better than Lebron?
@delrip i see what you mean, but im pretty sure the guys trying to say kobe has lead his team to the top and won the championship, where as lebron hasn't, yet.
@MuzicXfreak As a kobe/laker fan i agree with you but kobe does make a big role in the lakers team his legacy is better than lebron's but Lebron has ben the best since 06 in the nba kobe is a great player with a good ass team I respect lebron I think lebron needs to take over the game do he is not doing it with the heat it seems like he closes out some games but then he just gives up and lets wade shotjack its hurting his legacy if he doesent step up so he takes that ring!!!
he in prime no shit he has better stats fuking idiot kobe is an better all around player and he knows how to finish games.. thats what seperatyes him from other players.
@delrip I understand what you mean. But for a superstar, a ring differentiates a good player from a great player. Someone who has the drive and determination to win it all is better than a player who can't do that. This is why Kobe is better than Lebron.
@delrip did scal average 30 points per game in the playoffs? Nope.. dumbfuck... Lets be realistic now. A ring determines how good a player is if he actually plays good...a retard like you should even know this.
@Power2People59 Your an idiot read my comment more thoroughly im implying that a ring doesnt determine how good a player is. The point you just said is what i was trying to say. Fucking moron learn which side to pick
@13q28 Even Younger KG was better than Lebron. Young KG used to put up big numbers he may not have got as many highlights as Lebron but the numbers were there.
If KG and Kobe wore the same uniform, that would've been a hell of a one-two-punch 'cuz they both got the highest passion for the game and they doesn't seem to lose it as years progress.
@shaqkobe2434 Do you think they are walking around being mad at eachother because they are on different teams ? As soon as the clock starts yes they are competetive, but as soon as the 4th quarter ends they are best friends again. If you do not understand that you don't know good sportsmanship and should not be playing any sport.
kutobuki00 dwight is a great player, if he wasnt he wouldnt be an all star and he wouldnt repersent his counrty hes led the league 2 times in a row with blocks, rebounds and ppg average
Two future Hall of Famers. Love the respect between the two.
SharkyNBA 2 weeks ago
did KG just say "word"?
tweetlova 7 months ago
lebron traveled
RapPremieres 7 months ago
A ring doesn't determine everything. But if Lebron's on a team with D-Wade, Chris Bosh, Haslem, and Bibby and still can't win a ring, then he shouldn't and can't be compared to Kobe with 5 rings and Jordan with 6.
explodingpimp 7 months ago 6
@explodingpimp Then again, they were only together one year. I know the Celtics did it in '08 but their lineup was stacked compared to the Heat's lineup in '11.
SmoothMM 7 months ago
@SmoothMM 3 Superstars in 1 team isn't stacked? And by the way, Ray Allen PP and KG is like 3 Chris Bosh, Heat has 2 of the top 5 players in the league, seriously you can't make an excuse with that.
mv996 7 months ago
@mv996 Uh, no. Don't ever disrespect Ray, Pierce and KG like that again. KG, Ray and Allen play better than Bosh, so don't say that those 3 were like "3 Chris Bosh" in 2008 'til now (even though Bosh is a good payer). Also, "3 Superstars on 1 team" doesn't mean they're STACKED; a 12-man rotation with good chemistry and skills would make a STACKED TEAM because everyone plays well. That's why Dallas won this year; they could rely on their starters and bench for offense or defense.
SmoothMM 7 months ago
@mv996 Plus, 2 key role players -- Haslem and Miller were playing through injuries they were rehabbing -- so that gave Miami a blow to the gut. Granted, I don't know if Miami would've won if they were healthy, but it's still a thought. In 2008, the Celtics were healthy for the postseason.
SmoothMM 7 months ago
@SmoothMM dude, miami just wasn't good enough to win, get over it.
eldrkzdrgn 7 months ago
@eldrkzdrgn Dude, that's what I was arguing! If they were good enough, they would have won. I was arguing why Miami's team wasn't "STACKED" or as dominant as people made them out to be, and why this team didn't succeed in getting a championship this year (but could probably get one next year). There are numerous teams like Miami that need a few more tweaks to get over the hump and get a championship (or atleast contend).
SmoothMM 7 months ago
@eldrkzdrgn Or if they were good enough, Miami would have atleast pushed the Mavs to a Game 7.
SmoothMM 7 months ago
@SmoothMM oh haha yeah, i thought you were protecting the heat at first lol
eldrkzdrgn 7 months ago
Friends in the locker room, rivalries on court.
smlshin 7 months ago
PaStaDawg789 7 months ago
KG is a real G
TheLeBronJames6Fan 7 months ago
Thats what i call nigga talk (not being racist) im also black
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Daking0100 7 months ago
@finerer Ring = Team
daizuke17 8 months ago 2
@daizuke17 thank you
rowejam072000 8 months ago
lebron travelled in the locker room
MufcATW 8 months ago 3
if rings meant how good you were than robert horry was a better player than jordan
xxxRADIOACTIVExx 8 months ago
just that time they will talk to each other but when there on the court they will be fightng
Maisari3 9 months ago
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it's called being a competitor, they're both amazing competitors
mikeFrze 9 months ago
i am as awesome as lebron, i have as many NBA rings as he does!
JaxsonAndOtherFreaks 9 months ago
@JaxsonAndOtherFreaks why do you have to copy the top comment? your such a fag...
shevah2 9 months ago
@shevah2 why do you even fucking care? u r a homo and fucks your own mom. fAGGOT
JaxsonAndOtherFreaks 9 months ago
@JaxsonAndOtherFreaks your such a wanabe. Nice comback beaner
shevah2 9 months ago
@Tmacsooner for once i actually agree with this comment. Usually i get mad at other comments that think they know it all, but good reply.
ajmjdj123 9 months ago
Derrick Rose is Better than Lebron James already and it's Rose's 3rd year in the NBA...Oh and he's already MVP
ajmjdj123 9 months ago
@ajmjdj123 Thats a complete overstatement. Dont get me wrong i fucking hate lebron but Derrick hasnt proved himself in the playoffs (not like lebron has either) but he did win the east 1 year.
Tmacsooner 9 months ago
@ajmjdj123
There's no way Rose is better than LeBron. He might have had a better year this year, hence he's MVP (but even that's debatable). LeBron still had better numbers than Rose. If LeBron continued to play with the bums in Cleveland he would have been MVP for a 3rd str8 year GUARANTEED! Playing with Wade and Bosh hurts his mvp chances like LeBron himself said...It's true!
Kingjd87 8 months ago
@Kingjd87 But Rose didn't have Wade or Bosh on his team and LBJ actually had a better chance because Rose almost Carried his team while LBJ could have assisted more and score
DBZartist559 8 months ago
@Kingjd87 Just like Playing with Shaq hurt Kobe´s chances, which is why he only has one MVP..
DonRMB 8 months ago
@DonRMB
LMFAO! There was no way Kobe would have won MVP in his early days. Tim Duncan, KG, ,AI, Nash... were all more impactful players than Kobe from 97-04 (his years with Shaq). Kobe even without Shaq 05-07 never won an mvp. He won a pity MVP in '08. KG should have got it for his 2nd time!!
Kingjd87 8 months ago
@Kingjd87
Broodxy 8 months ago
Lets face it, Garnett is better than Kobe and LeBron combined!
imilianJ 9 months ago
I always imagined KG talking with an African accent. I don't know why. Lol.
CrazyChickun 9 months ago
YOU CANT BUT THESE RIGHT HERE HOMES ! LOVE IT!!!
aaronhare 9 months ago
KG got jealous they showed kobes patch so he made sure they saw his too. lol (not hating)
MCDiZZL3FLy 10 months ago
garnett's foot is bigger than my erected penis
WillingToPooNvm 10 months ago
@WillingToPooNvm My pinky is probably bigger than your erected penis
snake2392 10 months ago
@snake2392 possibly
WillingToPooNvm 10 months ago
@WillingToPooNvm lol
snake2392 10 months ago
Kobe got owned when they showed the number of all star appearances.
aznsupageek 10 months ago
@aznsupageek
Garnett entered n the NBA in 1995, while Kobe in 1996. That's why Garnett has more AS selection than Bryant.
monstermaii 10 months ago
why all the talk about james when does he win when it counts we beat him in the playoff twice and he aint beat us with the heat yet ahahaha
datruth34ing 10 months ago
LeBron ? I only see KG and Kobe in this video.
rdudong 11 months ago
I didnt know the East & West shared training facilities
ExposureExpo 11 months ago
@ExposureExpo Is not like their going against teams. Their just all having fun
OMGWTFShizznat 11 months ago
it may be impossible at this point but i'am hoping that someday, this two HOF's will team up and win a cahmpoinship together. But i guess it will never happen :(
bobolink222 1 year ago
haha bet these 2 love talkin bout meeting in the finals every year. bet they make fun of lebron too, who only chases MVPs, not rings
jbsprinter1 1 year ago 2
I allways noticed that KG and Kobe liked each other they have that respect !!!
MrSpacecowboy1 1 year ago 56
@MrSpacecowboy1 At jimmy kimmel kobe said they dont talk to Celtics evah :D
MrNuk3d 7 months ago
Hide your starters hide your bench and hide your fans because Lebron James rapin everbody out here
diskidsoso 1 year ago 3
@diskidsoso You Lame B chill tha fuck out
AndreRedd1Empire 1 year ago
kg and kobe same type player different position passionate and a hungar to win that can never be satisfied
thug8200 1 year ago
KG look out! U gonna lose next finals vs this guy!
akt0m 1 year ago
@akt0m i dont think so. the lakers are kind of shitty this year.
ImmortalSpammer 1 year ago
@ImmortalSpammer
But it is 2009, so i mean they gonna lose 2010 finals ( thats already happens).
akt0m 1 year ago
@akt0m i have no idea wtf you said. learn some grammar.
ImmortalSpammer 1 year ago
@ImmortalSpammer lol
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srbijanajbolja 1 year ago
Kobe is the only man KG can't trashtalk! Got a great respect on him! LOL!
nealogz 1 year ago
daaaang, KG's foot is huge :DDDD
jonasveee 1 year ago
i love how they are from rivalry teams, yet they act like buddies. (discluding the other celtics)
Akwon872 1 year ago
what year was this?
ImmortalSpammer 1 year ago
@ImmortalSpammer 2009
baryam11 1 year ago
11 and 12 times you cant buy that you no what you call it alot of work passion blood and sweat and tears they wear that shit with pride
thug8200 1 year ago 2
i c lebron in the back!!!!
ArzelAngeloEsteban 1 year ago
PUT SHAQ INTO DA ALLSTAR GAME!!!
jordangilmore23 1 year ago
I think I'm as good as LeBron because "I" too have "No Rings."
ahmad24lal 1 year ago
Amazing. Of all the different type of videos you can watch my favorite are the one where the players are just being themselves around each other.
evxdaddy 1 year ago
East Coast Basketball Players.Shouts out To Philly and South Carolina
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MegaRieu 1 year ago
I remember witnessing these two in their rookie season. They're still the same old fags they used to be.
megatroll 1 year ago
WTF? THEY SHARE A THERAPY ROOM?
Famas360 1 year ago
@Famas360 Lol its all star weekend home boy. Shaq shoots threes its all for fun.
RTR9 1 year ago
ROFL, Even i am as good as lebron, we got the same number of rings!!
finerer 1 year ago 81
@finerer hahahahahahahahahah
MrPreppy22 1 year ago
@finerer You all can hate on lebron but hes put up way better numbers than kobe the last 3 years, and is a better all around athlete
xxbpattxx 1 year ago
@xxbpattxx Athlete doesn't make you better, Jordans almost 50, I'm a better athlete at age 22 right now than he is, how does that make me better than him?
Lebrons been doing better, I forgot, how old is Kobe? 32 right? Lebron is 25? Let me know when Lebron gets a consistent jump shot and a clutch 3, or let me know when he can score 81. Athleticism doesn't make you the man, skills do, that's why Kobe can still do it 3 years past his prime.
Malesori88 1 year ago
@xxbpattxx p.s
Give Kobe one star (Gasol) you get 2 rings. Give Lebron a SUPERstar (wade) AND a star (Bosh) and you get a 9-8 (barely over 500) record. lol
Malesori88 1 year ago
@Malesori88 Ya because they're suppose to be a super team right off the get go lol, Kobe has always had many good players around him... Not just Gasol and Shak. No point in aruging over the internet doesn't get you anywhere. they're both amazing players i don't get why people hate on lebron so much.
xxbpattxx 1 year ago
@xxbpattxx
Boston did it with 3 stars PAST their prime and no disrespect to them but Pierce was never as good as Lebron even in his prime and Ray Ray was never as good as D Wade. You're reasoning is senseless, want me to state Kobes team? In the western conference in 06 where it was stronger than ever before Kobe got to the playoffs with Smush Parker, Kwame Brown, George, etc... These players aren't even in the NBA and Kwame is a joke. So no Kobe hasn't always has amazing players...
Malesori88 1 year ago
@xxbpattxx By the way, if Lebron was better than Kobe at a younger age then why did Kobe score 53 in 3 quarters at the age of 23? or average 30/6/6 in 2002-2003 in a triangle offense designed to limit what Kobe can do? He did that with another superstar on his team, and yes he was efficient it was one of his most efficient seasons ever. I don't hate Lebron just stop comparing someone undeserving, until recently you couldn't even COMPARE Kobe to Jordan, he had to earn it with 2 more titles.
Malesori88 1 year ago
@Malesori88 you just spat out LITERALLY some of the dumbest most incoherent shit i've ever heard. nothing you said remotely resembles an argument that could compare the skill of 2 players in basketball. let me set you straight. lebrons career points per game is the 3rd highest in nba history, the 2 who have him beat are not named kobe (Wilt Chamberlain at number 2 and Michael Jordan at number 1). And Lebron is more efficient then kobe career-wise and better in every category.
jonnieos 1 year ago
@Malesori88 and if you want to talk about triangle offense and all this other bullshit-- oh i forgot to mention something else. TEAMS win titles PLAYERS NEVER have. otherwise TEAMS wouldn't bother getting more than one player on the floor (jordan sure as shit didn't win it alone and he's by FAR the GOAT). ok now remember your efficiency and all this other subjective talk (kobes fg% is not as good as lebrons not sure where you're going with that).
jonnieos 1 year ago
@Malesori88 there's also a stat called win-shares, and in case your wondering, kobes win shares per 48 minutes career avg is .188 with his career HIGH being .224 (LOL) lebron's win share per 48 minutes career AVERAGE is .223 and his career high is .318 (MICHAEL JORDAN's career high is .321 and his second best is .317). and had basketball-reference kept track of kobes win shares before 1999-2000 (when he was on the bench), then he wouldn't even average .1
jonnieos 1 year ago
@Malesori88 and the best part is even though there are some idiots that think kobe could be considered better than lebron (which has been proven wrong again and again) but in case your wondering why kobe is never an mvp candidate (and shouldn't have been in the 2010 finals), kobe's win share ranking (against the rest of the players in the league each season) are the following (since the lakers dynasty 99-00): 7, 8, 6, 4, 7, 9, 8, 7 lebrons since his ROOKIE season are: 9, 5, 6, 5, 1, 1 :)
jonnieos 1 year ago
@Malesori88 and a few more tidbits, Lebrons average efficiency rating, is number 2 IN FUCKING NBA HISTORY. (Michael Jordan is number 1). Lebrons efficiency rating average is 26.8 (Jordans is 27.9), Kobes career high is 28.0 (ROFL .1 more than jordans AVERAGE), Jordans career high is 31.7 and Lebrons career high is 31.7 as well. Please explain to me on what planet your from if you think Kobe is better or even as good as Lebron?? Cuz it's definitely not Earth.
jonnieos 1 year ago
@jonnieos Dude stop with these garbage ass stats. Efficiency rating is understood..fuck win shares. 5 titles to ZERO and a skill set that is untouchable by anyone on earth. As a pure basketball player..Kobe Bryant is better. Point blank period. Wtf are you talking about win shares for? Fuck win shares! Gimme 5 championships. And Lebron had a good enough team to win a championship because he's a great player himself. But his basketball skillset does not match that of Kobe's. He's still amazing
Gibster777 1 year ago
@Gibster777 Shut up with the fuckshit ring argument. Teams win rings players don't. Jordan needed a much different roster to win his first ring, so don't fucking play that ring shit with me. It's always gonna take a team to win it so don't blame the shit on one player that can already do a hell of a lot more for his team than Kobe can or ever has. So fuck your rings, and your bitching at me for using win shares which is an actual math that proves that Lebron is MUCH better at winning as a PLAYER
jonnieos 1 year ago
@jonnieos lol fail? lebron having troubles winning this season with all the weapons he needs dumbass!!! who said kobe has better team mates than lebron?
airhiceable 1 year ago
@airhiceable kobe has always had better teammates than lebron every fucking season till now. and you think that 3 scoring title contenders that were carrying their teams in their prime are just gonna gel in 20 games, when they had been apart of the same franchises for YEARS? get over yourself kid. come back in a few years and tell me how much trouble the heat had and how many rings they got. 20 games in you shouldn't be saying shit
jonnieos 1 year ago
@airhiceable and by the way their bench is garbage, they have a very poor selection of big men other than Bosh who is a light-jump shot power forward, not that much of a big man for the paint. Udonis Haslem is out and Mike Miller (one of the leagues best 3pt shooters) won't even have his first game with the Heat till January.
jonnieos 1 year ago
@jonnieos Kobe can make his teammates better and Lebron can't, that's what makes Kobe the BETTER PLAYER! PS: Lebron shouldn't be linked with Kobe, Lebron still has a long way to go dumbass!
airhiceable 1 year ago
@jonnieos You cluck fuck!! If you base an argument about Lebron being better than Kobe on win shares in front of any knowledgable basketball mind and they will laugh in your face. The game of basketball is more than your fucking win shares. He has a skill set that is better than Lebron's, plain and simple. He's a better ball handler, a better shooter, higher basketball IQ, better post game, better perimeter man to man defense (not the coming from behind to block someone bullshit).
Gibster777 1 year ago
@jonnieos Kobe is a lockdown defender. Lebron doesn't lock up, he's a solid defender but he blocks a bunch of shots and thats about it. And when I said he had a good enough team..I meant he had a good enough team even in Cleveland. I'm not going to say anything about Miami. Season just started. Athleticism adds so much to Lebron's game that when it dwindles, you will be able to compare their actual basketball skills and notice that it's not as close as you think. I am not downtalking LBJ's game.
Gibster777 1 year ago
@jonnieos Why not? Rings are relevent? All time greats with multiple championships....
neerrg 1 year ago
@Malesori88 Miami is on a 11 game win streak. Can't wait till the play the lakers on christmas!
BlackMediaAllAccess 1 year ago
@finerer im a kobe fan stfu he would ball ur ass to the floor
TheEman67 1 year ago
@finerer shut up it a team that get rings not just one person dumbass dosent mean hes not a goodplayer
mariahjohnson1995 1 year ago
@finerer
Do you have same # of MVP as him? same skill level of basketball? No.
and Lebron would beat your ass so hard on the court.
koreastyl3 1 year ago
@finerer nahh i think lebron has like 20 real ass diamond rings at his house cuz hes that rich haha
stevechen1991 1 year ago
@finerer ya but do u have as much NBA MVP awards as Lebron ?
JumpPlyta2323 1 year ago
@finerer So are rings a individual Award?
xIISuPeRMaN 1 year ago
@xIISuPeRMaN finals MVP is
dirtydavis24 11 months ago
@xIISuPeRMaN thank u
xAmazin 10 months ago
@finerer I have more
FluffyBoys209 1 year ago
@finerer but u dont have the same amount of cash ;)
raptors12349 11 months ago
@finerer Too bad you don't have the same amount of money.
love4stl4sho 10 months ago
@finerer That was just tremendously stupid to say. One man can't win a play off game. He don't got a ring cuz the team he played for (Cavs) was garbage. All this ring talk is the stupidest and most ignorant thing I've ever heard. The ring don't make the player, the PLAYERS make the ring. He brought the Cavs up from losing almost every game to a 75 percent chance of winning any game they played. I'm sick of hearing all this ring talk.
UngidoParaVencer 10 months ago
@UngidoParaVencer he needed the cavs. they were underrated. hes way overrated. he should have stayed. i liked him before he left.
conisgrr 9 months ago
@finerer ur a fucking fag. you have 0% of Lebrons skill. How much of a Lebron hatter do you have to be to talk shit about Lebron in a video that has nothing to do with him
Habs441 9 months ago
@finerer rings don't tell you if you're great or not. but that doesn't mean that kobe isn't the best in this league
13q28 9 months ago
@finerer Rings doesn't mean a player sucks. So your sayin Derek fisher is better then Iverson , and that pau gasol is better then dwight?
bballhank 9 months ago
@finerer joke !
shadowerfun 9 months ago
@finerer ooooh I understand now. A ring determines how good a player is and not the other awards and statistics. So Brian Scalabrine is better than Lebron?
delrip 9 months ago 54
@delrip Yes...
DonRMB 9 months ago
@delrip Brian is the best!
Vip3rC4in0022 8 months ago
@delrip Scal is best in the world dude, didn't you hear?
mv996 8 months ago
@delrip
but Brian Scalabrine is better than you.. nuff said. LOL
MrPrincePhengie 8 months ago
@MrPrincePhengie I never said he wasnt lmao nuff said. Just said rings don't determine how good someone is duhduduh
delrip 8 months ago
@delrip i see what you mean, but im pretty sure the guys trying to say kobe has lead his team to the top and won the championship, where as lebron hasn't, yet.
GMPro24 8 months ago
@GMPro24 Kobe hasnt lead shit. His team would be good without him. Look at Cleveland without LeBron.
MuzicXfreak 8 months ago
@MuzicXfreak u faggot, when were the lakers good without Kobe? When he got hurt in 05 , they missed the playoffs
redskins2k 8 months ago
@MuzicXfreak r u kidding??
lawlessvictory 8 months ago
@MuzicXfreak As a kobe/laker fan i agree with you but kobe does make a big role in the lakers team his legacy is better than lebron's but Lebron has ben the best since 06 in the nba kobe is a great player with a good ass team I respect lebron I think lebron needs to take over the game do he is not doing it with the heat it seems like he closes out some games but then he just gives up and lets wade shotjack its hurting his legacy if he doesent step up so he takes that ring!!!
MrSpacecowboy1 7 months ago
@MrSpacecowboy1 Thank you for being smart. Kobe is great no doubt, but not as important to the Lakers as people play him out to be.
MuzicXfreak 7 months ago
@delrip wait..so DJ Mbenga >>> Lebron too!!
Mrcabletwitch 8 months ago 3
@delrip hell yeah. :P
aceremlk 8 months ago 2
@delrip Definitely. Scal's a fuckin beast!
sportygu123 8 months ago 17
@delrip yep
lolwtfisthisish 7 months ago
@delrip yea he is..even your mom might be better than michael jordan
NBAfan1993 7 months ago
he in prime no shit he has better stats fuking idiot kobe is an better all around player and he knows how to finish games.. thats what seperatyes him from other players.
jrrussell29 7 months ago
@delrip I understand what you mean. But for a superstar, a ring differentiates a good player from a great player. Someone who has the drive and determination to win it all is better than a player who can't do that. This is why Kobe is better than Lebron.
DTDCRapture 7 months ago
@delrip
hahaha nice example
MOMOarabe 7 months ago
@delrip YES!
MrDarkstalker15 7 months ago
@MrDarkstalker15 ha agreed
Jonreynols 7 months ago
@delrip yes
DarkestJade 7 months ago
@delrip No obviously a ring determines how great u are when u have established ur self a an elite player....We are not talking about role players
lilzack24 7 months ago 2
@delrip brian scalabrine was better than lebron when he was in elementary school
GotAnEyedea 7 months ago
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Drumm3rGibbs 7 months ago
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Drumm3rGibbs 7 months ago
@delrip hahahahh!!! that's funny!
WeaponOfficer 7 months ago
@delrip Yeah actually he is
VietnamsMonkey 7 months ago
@VietnamsMonkey No.... Scalabrine is not.
SmoothMM 7 months ago
@delrip did scal average 30 points per game in the playoffs? Nope.. dumbfuck... Lets be realistic now. A ring determines how good a player is if he actually plays good...a retard like you should even know this.
Power2People59 7 months ago
@Power2People59 Your an idiot read my comment more thoroughly im implying that a ring doesnt determine how good a player is. The point you just said is what i was trying to say. Fucking moron learn which side to pick
delrip 7 months ago
@Power2People59 Also hilarious how you try to start an arguement i was proving a point you were trying to start an arguement :).
delrip 7 months ago
LeBron = Fraud, Copout and SellOut
smrams28 1 year ago
2 legends, kobes better but still 2 legends
zampim01 1 year ago 2
How come Lebron can be better then Kobe and KG combined, when Kobe is better then Lebron allready!
13q28 1 year ago 66
@13q28 Even Younger KG was better than Lebron. Young KG used to put up big numbers he may not have got as many highlights as Lebron but the numbers were there.
TwoTimesForYourMind 1 year ago 3
@13q28 YOU ARE A RETARD LBJ IS YOUNGER THAN KOBE STOP BEING A FRICKKIN HATER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Kmont4 11 months ago
@13q28 who the fucking are you even talking too ? only fugly cunts like lefag
heavyrain24 10 months ago
@13q28 i agree 100% kobe is better then bro bron
thug8200 10 months ago
@13q28 coz KG is a minus?! lolz
timmychen6 9 months ago
@13q28 cuz kg brings kobee downn
superdudedude101 9 months ago
LeBron sucks!!! thumbs up if u agree
emercreed44 1 year ago 4
@emercreed44 100 thumbs up...
twopac4life 1 year ago
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@emercreed44 Your mother sucks!!! thumbs up if u agree
SuperMrFaggot 1 year ago
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@emercreed44 lol u have zero
doinyourmom98 1 year ago
My two favourite players in one video..
MydnyghtObservere 1 year ago
@MydnyghtObservere
u mad?
awaylabel 1 year ago
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I make NBA mixes with so much passion but nobody watches them...could anyone in here give me a comment at least?
KingKoltAir 1 year ago
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why they're puttin' on two sucks on one foot? ;D
noopi079 1 year ago
whey they're puttin' on two sucks on one foot? ;D
noopi079 1 year ago
@noopi079 Yes they do, pro players usually wears two socks two avoid foot pain after the game
cvision17 1 year ago
@noopi079 Those are special socks to help support the ankle
Scar2Hard 1 year ago
If KG and Kobe wore the same uniform, that would've been a hell of a one-two-punch 'cuz they both got the highest passion for the game and they doesn't seem to lose it as years progress.
cvision17 1 year ago 2
@cvision17 SO TRUE... Altho I'm a diehard Celtic fan I'd pay anything to watch KG and Kobe play together.
bluebill0124 1 year ago
man i want those socks =.=
dimester50 1 year ago
why is kobe taking to garnett
shaqkobe2434 1 year ago
@shaqkobe2434 Do you think they are walking around being mad at eachother because they are on different teams ? As soon as the clock starts yes they are competetive, but as soon as the 4th quarter ends they are best friends again. If you do not understand that you don't know good sportsmanship and should not be playing any sport.
ringlol 1 year ago 3
Why is garnett wearing 2 socks on each foot
TehBannHammer 1 year ago
@TehBannHammer cause he can.
xKiLlJoYDx 1 year ago
kutobuki00 dwight is a great player, if he wasnt he wouldnt be an all star and he wouldnt repersent his counrty hes led the league 2 times in a row with blocks, rebounds and ppg average
SuperTank23 1 year ago