Jump v White_Ra p2/2

[DaemonTFO]

I hate psy's accent x.x...

[KohTheName1]

HD BURNS MY EYES !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[tandis97]

protoss must have EPIC amounts of electric bills :P

[itsgian]

@tandis97 Everything's powered by psionic energy... so no, no electric bills.

[tandis97]

@itsgian thats not what i meant..... if you look at balls. and then think and then at electric cuz they are blue and shit. THEY GOT BALLS K?

[leonid1995]

What he could have done was possibly get that island expansion, place some cannons to prevent the immidiate threat of doom drops, using his stalkers to blink to and away from that base. Though I guess it was in early beta and he didn't know about that yet. Sure would be epic though! Lol :)

[yarahahrwe]

you have replaced comedy central as my background noise

[killyoko123]

NICEEEEE

[BRISKONEY2E]

gr8 GAME

[lSpadel]

EMPWNED

[MrDePace]

this is such horrible play just shows us how much people have improved even in 3 months .... a million helions no upgrade? whitera goes drops we never see those anymore... no sentries ? all in all not good:(

[dansnali]

@MrDePace Yep WhiteRa wouldn't have let that happen now.. was actually 6 months ago or so

[ComeLeVent]

sad ending there for whitera, he had the advantage.

[larzo1337]

great commentary!

[FarmGiraffe]

too bad, too many siege tanks:p

[1990Soul]

what is so special about this match?? everybody should know by know that terra is op...

[DragonKry11]

@bldude2 so is it the missile turrets as detectors still?

[cael87]

This game proves the importance of fleet composition, WhiteRa (which I do believe was not the real WhiteRa) was gearing up for facing a terran bio-ball. Jump saw this and countered excellently with a ton of mech and left Ra back-peddaling for air units and losing his valuable expansions. this is where the power of scouting comes into play, even if they shoot down your observers you have to keep an eye on their fleet compo no matter what.

[yau7610]

this is not the real White ra

he so noob

the real one even stronger

[TheCaptainCoconut]

@yau7610 this game is almost 6 month old, there were very few sc2 pros bac then

[TheCaptainCoconut]

@yau7610 this game is almost 6 month old, there were very few sc2 pros back then

[TrickKae]

Whitera learned from this definatly, should always transition into Void Rays against non-Thor mech

[fiercex]

seems games like this helped develop whitera's style

[fastweirdo]

When he saw the fields of hellions and seige tanks, whiteRA should have gone for rays and carriers, because a fully charged ray can take out a missle turret pretty quickly.

[Killoea]

why is blue going a mech build against immortals?

[cael87]

@Killoea because immortals are a good counter to bio as well, and with EMP they become nothing more than a waste of resources for the Protoss player.

[PineeTree]

Early beta games bring you back, lawl.

[TheMegatank123]

nice vid.



[LordBadazz11]

Lol not that it really matters but HD, he didn't lose all his workers during the hellion attack. They were picked up by the warp prism

[DragonKry11]

@ProtossManic an alien lover would spam. The only reason I ever played Toss was to mind control workers and double or even triple my pop cap and still rape with good old Terran. WhiteRa is a good player but the sensor towers would have made the DTs nothing more than zealots.

[bldude2]

@DragonKry11 Sensor towers aren't detectors. They only pick up uncloaked units.

[eric96961]

ive never seen whitera win ever lol i keep tryin to find a vid where he wins but nope it doesnt happen

[Palazet]

he wins some vids but he is like a unlucky pro :)

[ProtossManic]

WhiteRA u ARE my IDOL I love u sfm but one piece of advice Dark Templares rape terran! GO PRTOSS!

[ProtossManic]

WhiteRA ur my hero I LOVE protoss, i idolize u but one peice of advice Dark Templares RAPE terran!

[the666SEEKER]

im kinda newb

what is micro and macro??

can someone tell me?

[indubioproreo23]

@the666SEEKER

yes:

micro=wc3

macro=sc2

glad I could help

[the666SEEKER]

@indubioproreo23 ohhhh

thank you very well explained -.-

[indubioproreo23]

@the666SEEKER

k micro management is commanding your units efficiently for instance pulling back single units which have taken damage or flanking ur opponents, using abilities to the fullest etc etc

macro management is more like looking at the big picture. its your infrastracture your build order, your base layout, decision making unit production wise and keeping on top of everything that is ressource-related.

hope that sums it up

[the666SEEKER]

@indubioproreo23

thanks man

it does

[cutiepe2ce]

@indubioproreo23 lol, i can see the reason of micro,gotta train vs hard bots to train yourself to better the keyboard hotkeys and the race. So far,i don't see Zerg fights!

[maseratiquattroport]

hmmm ... is this really whitera ? it seems more like downplayed version of whitera if it really is him.

[dustinishere1s]

you know what sucks is it doesnt look like they can shoot while they move.. did they used to be able to shoot while you retreat?

[haramer95]

@dustinishere1s if your talking about the tanks... no however if you could macro well, you can retreat shoot and keep retreating really fast and wait for the cooldown, then let it fire it's cannons again. However this was much easier in SC1 due to the fact that you shot really slowly even without the seige mode on.

[meatmachine666]

click powers (casters) win the game (or lose it if screwed up ) , if u want to be awsome practice using casters with ya main force ....... glhf

[nelsonmars]

Damn I miss Goliaths and Wraiths. Looks like SC2 won't have as many splash damage units as the original. Bummer.

[omegastar19]

fantastic counter-attack by Jump. He simply overran Whitera's main strike. awesome

[Redemptionrocks]

Now that is what I call a firewall! Yeah, that joke was horrible. (Speaking of the hellion wall)

[shotartist]

I like how I guess in SC2, forces you to have a variety of units not just sticking with one kind (like Hydralisks back in the original game) but then again i have not seen what mass immortals or mass vikings can do.

[MaacImPaak]

LOL u guys hav no idea.... its balaced... thats the key... booo roaches ... booo tanks.... booo immortals... there is a conter everywere

[djYngin]

Please press 'Alt' to remove the hitpoint bars... They are super annoying.

[khunag]

@djYngin would you rather guess the hp of the units? o_O

[djYngin]

@khunag I don't need to know the hp of every building on screen at all times. If there is a major battle the commentator could click on a unit or a group of units and show their hp for a few seconds if it was of any relevance, otherwise it's just annoying. Simple as that

[khunag]

@djYngin more information > less information. Nothing annoying about it.

[djYngin]

@khunag Wrong. When you can't actually see the units because their hitpoints bars are in the way, it becomes annoying. There is such a thing as too much information, especially when it comes at the expense of visibility.

[khunag]

@djYngin I can see and identify the units with no problem, I'm not watching replays to appreciate the graphics ;) let's just agree to disagree though, I like it better this way, no point in wasting time arguing over something that trivial :)

[crompee]

@djYngin You can turn that off.

[djYngin]

@crompee I know *I* can, but I'm complaining that it isn't it off in *this* video...

Anyway, I see HD has changed this habit in his later videos, so it's all good now =)

[BizzLeVrai]

the terran suck,

in sc 2 is not like sc 1

mechanic is not the best vs protoss

updated marine medivac ghost marauder with viking that sit keep it basic is the best against PRotoss.

[ameryllw]

Great move, EMPing the immortals so that their hardened shields don't come into play.

[MrSourworm]

youtube or real life, a shit talker always needs to be put in their place. Thanks for the tip tho <3

[IrishBoY2012]

Nice job, view my replays @@

pix4pix[dot]net23[dot]net

[Hournte]

where do you get these replays from??

[MrSourworm]

@formsdn

you dont know shit retard. The only recent pro foreigners we ever had on korean teams were idra and nony.. anyone else is not considered pro unless on a korean pro team. He is at best a good foreigner, and yes good foreigners can beat pros from time to time... particularly with cheesy builds. So how bout you get your facts straight and stop pretending like you know like the other posers. Spend 8 years learning the game then come talk on here.

[HoshoLegacy]

@MrSourworm

"On here"? Not being funny mate, but this is a youtube comment. Don't take it so serious, bro! <3

[Faithenseeker]

The toss had high temps on the way and he attacked before getting them out?

[comments247]

what a boring game...

[I4mtheFORCE]

Goliath (not so) on-line

[MehganFox]

does beta have ums?

[Yowussupimtao]

emp owns protoss

[100089295]

@Yowussupimtao yeah its pretty unfair i think

although tanks and hellions rip through zealots.

[guyfromostrava]

DAMN... ive just found out that Jump is from the Czech Republic like me! Im proud! :-D

[phor11]

A lot of the commentary revolved around this being a mech build, but isn't it the EMP shockwave from a bio unit that won the game for Jump?

Mech heavy armies are an obvious counter to Psi storm, but how do you counter EMP as protoss?

[greekdude2]

It wasn't about the EMP. The Protoss player should have gone air. He needed to get some good air units. Phoenix would have worked even. Lifted those siege tanks and then taken care of the hellions.

[bman462]

@phor11 yes

[TheHugeTurd]

WOW SO AWESOME !! TY for showing this

[AlexSaysHi2013]

do vikings count as mech they changed them so much during development i just don't know

[amazeblaze]

Vikings count as air, because you get them at the starport.

[AlexSaysHi2013]

well, i guess that makes sense, if they already got enough mechs

[KelLorien]

the Thor is technically part of the mech build, isn't it? those seem to be great against air.

[amazeblaze]

The Thor does count as much, but they cost a lot. When you get a factory, you either choose siege tanks or Thors, unless you gamble for the high minerals.

[tarquinbiscuitbarrel]

@KelLorien thor's are too slow to catch anything air, vikings are better

[SWATtheory]

Yea...my spam senses are tingling...

[kylescotternest]

is that the real white raa

[veangence383]

why didn't toss go for warpgates?

[alfvar]

Man this is the second game I see White_Ra having really awesome macro but using bad tactics when it comes to countering units. = (

[MrNeutralized]

Early warpgates would have walked all over that build. Terran doesn't have the ability to turtle like that and defend their entire base from the powerful tech units of the toss + tier 1 reinforcements from warpgates.

[omuploii]

@MrNeutralized yes they do.

And early warp gates means suicide to hellions

[MrNeutralized]

@omuploii

Well I wasn't suggesting "early" warpgates. I'm just saying that if he had warpgates then his harass with the warp prism would have probably ended the game if he could reinforce from inside the T's base.

[aspvip]

Any way I could get my hands on the replay file?

[Rllxeron]

I thought Terran<3 will lose :D - nice game. Great commentary.

[sharkboy989]

Most visually appealing strategy game ive ever seen

[c3n1x]

These guys are good, but I'd like to see them play SC/BW 1 to know if they're really pro. Their average APM this game was only around 120, and the protoss never used his dropships to flank while fighting the terran army, only to try resource harassing... If he'd used his 2 dropships to flank behind during that final battle, he would've had a chance at winning it. Zealots running in front behind tend to takeout tanks.

[c3n1x]

Ghosts with EMP, that's a MAJOR change... You used to have to upgrade it for science vessels and it cost 200 energy to use. In my opinion, this has unbalanced the TvP, giving ghosts EMP... I haven't played SC2 yet though, so I don't know what they've added to Protoss to balance it.

[falcoon12345678]

How does smart casting work? like if u have marines and marauders and you wanna use stim pack do u ahve to click a whole bunch of times or is there a key u press to make them all use it at the same time? also can u enable abilities to be auto casted?

[Caiddenn]

Now Siege Tanks cost 25 more gas, have a much higher build time, and do 10 less damage then they used to in Siege Mode. Compared to Marauders they aren't cost effective currently unless your really creative.

[formula90II]

Wrong.

Tanks in SC1 did 70 Explosive damage

Tanks in SC2 do 60 damage -no modifiers-

Explosive damage in SC1 means

100% damage to large units

75% to Medium

50% to small.

Essentially the Tank did 35 damage + 35 damage to large units if we use the SC2 terminology.

Tanks now do 60 damage to ALL units regardless of what unit type they are. (With the exception of immortal)

Anyone can tell you that Siege tanks are more useful for a bunch of grouped small units.

[bandidofox]

sdco

[cartossin]

@Anonymous247n: not true, watch any match with KHB. He pretty much always wins with zerg.

[pl4free]

Yeah, but terran seem to have the upper hand though. the game seems a little off-balanced in this phase.

[omuploii]

@pl4free yea, off balance and grossly favoring protoss. get your facts straight kid

[xxcantor]

in my opinion tanks are too weak, they hardly do any damage in siege

[Seiku]

@xxcantor I thought the same.

[Ksaiper]

@xxcantor Too weak?!

So you want the tank to take out everything in one shot?

Why not just make tanks shoot out nukes then?

Let's call the game TankCraft.

[Ducky1987]

lol

[Willownsyou89]

@Ksaiper

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lmao tankcraft

[jariojario99]

looks really fun, i gotta have one for my pc!

[MikeHall683]

great game play, great commentary. keep 'em comin, HD, you're the man.

[n0608039]

i got starcraft but my grahpics and performance are not to good :( BUT STILL FUN :)

[MrSourworm]

ok sorry.... yes he basically stole nal_ra's name.. what a loser. The real nal_ra ex progamer and now commentator is actually taking a return to broodwar progaming at age 28 just recently.

[c3n1x]

Figures he wasn't the real deal. I mean the guy had a decent protoss game, but nowhere near pro standards... He wouldn't be the first to steal a pro gamer's name though.

[Damythxful]

It is still beta. Still no progamers today.

[gloopy1984]

I love immortals! Protoss really missed them in SC1

[ikamico]

all thanks to siege tanks. I Think dragoons got fed up of being blown away.

[MrSourworm]

dustball3010 what the fuck are you talking about? white ra is not korean or one of the best players. He is known by non korean players and is ranked as a non pro... your obviously talking shit like you know, when the very point you made is completely wrong... just want to make sure no one falls for your false confidence.

[dustball3010]

Yo bro relax man.. stop all the vulgar and stuff. I've feeling do you know that? I'll admit I made a mistake, it was just that his nickname seems really familiar so i did an assumption. I did a little bit of research on the net and true he doesn't show up in any pro gamer database but instead Nal_rA did which probably i mistaken Nal_ra nick with his because of the nick ended with RA.

[formsdn]

@dustball3010

Noob, WhiteRa is top4 WCG GF. He is one the only non-korean players who can beat korean pro-players. So... STFU

[dustball3010]

Dude.. your language basically shows me how mature you are. Just because your hidden behind your computer doesn't mean you should insult someone. And you are probably someone who needed to change his glasses because no where in my statement I insulted White_Ra skills in Starcraft.

[formsdn]

@MrSourworm

You dont know sh1t. WhiteRa is considered pro, he is one of the only non-korean who can beat korean pro-players

[Napounet]

EMP is OP in my opinion.

[baker98745]

Wow, terran lulled the protoss into false sense of security it seemed like. If only he had gone for air earlier.

[tastethejace]

it appears tanks don't fire while moving anymore. apparently the terran is devolving?

[nf1n1ty666]

tanks firing while moving? that's new to me

[c3n1x]

tanks always had to stop to shoot, including non-siege mode.

[NETMR2]

awesome

[SteveChatter]

Thanks for the vid HD. Looks like Terran mech still works, even without the mines.

[dustball3010]

The game was pretty much broad war style until the tide turn happen so freaking fast! it's like less than 3 seconds the entire protoss force is annihilated

[Jetomancer]

I love the EMP! When used properly, it can really open a can of protoss whoop ass.

[PaCo12349]

Zeh-lots.

[Busususu]

Rad ass game!!!

[wowusvn]

retarded....protoss attacked that....like 3 void rays wouldve won that

[laze101]

i need to get this game so hurry the hell up blizzard!!!!

[SoniStreet]

Great videos ^^ Btw where can you download this replays? Thanks in advance.

[Moue666]

I noticed watching other Starcraft 2 betas that the unit counts are lower than in Starcraft 1 whereas people had 50+ Dragoons or a crapload of hydralisks. The most I see right now is 25 or 30 units in battles.

[drew4980]

A lot of these units have more than 2 supply though, and also theres still 50+ workers with big bases. Starcraft 2 armies may be smaller but they get big at a faster rate, long games in SC2 are 25-30 minutes

[syan9184]

nice game

[captainmuon]

mech seriously flawed though no antiair at all

[Legola87]

....though u will need to build starport, ghost academy, etc etc more buildings than in sc1...

[Legola87]

Terran mech build for Starcraft 2 should be Hellion, Siege Tank, Viking. Support by Ghost for EMP and snipe, and Raven for detection.

If there is cash to spare, get medivac for dropship tactics or juz get more of the above... how is this looking? XDXD

[PwNaLiVe]

@Legola87 Its awesome! i like it. ill try it later when i play

[Ufnym]

It can't be THE White Ra! He doesn't suck that bad!

[donnieWIN]

wat a noob toss player. id own them ez gg.

[TheOmniologist]

Anyone can call themselves White_Ra, thats why it might not be him. When I get SC2, I should call myself SlayerS_`BoxeR`

[1984frogger]

Could you use the 'income' tab when economic attacks happen, it's a really good indicator how effective mineral harassment is, and those are usually turning point moments to boot..

[WilltheGamer]

5:04 "Oh my gosh"

sounded so fkn funny

[tuakkii]

zel-utt, not zel-oht.

:)

[dafunker00]

i once said something like that, and he did change his pronounciation to this, and i was like ah well close enough haha

[EattingPolygons]

HD try using mech with a single starport with the reactor or w/e it's call. The addon so you can make two Vikings at the same time. Use those for anti air and land them for harrassment or when you really need some ground units.

[Quy4life]

protoss started out well slowing down terran progressing. Too bad that dude didn't know how to turn that into an advantage. :/

[pjscafe]

This is awesome. There's only one question left...when is the release date??!!

[CopperGaut]

bring back some form of goliths god damnit.

[MacoCwacko]

You mean they have no anti-air mech!? Say it ain't so!

[supimAndriy]

lol don't thinks that's really white ra

[ricefarmer]

dam it still no snipe being used? and dam those immortals are too strong

[Blassreiter815]

that can't be white ra o_o this guy sucks!!!!!!

[lsomebodyyouknowl]

NUBS PERIOD

[TheEgzi]

Damn, fun Match! :D

[GladRags]

this replay is refreshing compared to the previous ones i watched..

[MartinRmoutil]

OMG, no anti-air can be produced from the factory? That is just stupid.

[rickiex]

@MartinRmoutil actually, thor can be made and it attacks air and ground. but, its too costly and takes too long to just build one.

so its kinda useless.

[TheEgzi]

It can, the Thor can attack air as well.

[EradicationStation]

not very well though

[rickiex]

the terran player would have done alot better with gols. gols was one of the best units for terran. i dont understand why would they take it out :(

and new youtube looks odd. :[

[qulqunick]

@rickiex it is making my cpu over heat too.

[asdfgoogle]

New youtube? Mine looks the same... wtf

[QQBistro]

lol why did he waste those high templars, a couple psi storms couldve killed those seige tanks and maybe even the clumped hellions...

[red9991]

@QQBistro

i guess, but psi storms gotten incredibily weak in this game =[

[MacoCwacko]

i have seen it used before and it rekid face. against the zerg at least.

[moopy141]

can u imagine emp on an acheron (or however u spell it)