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  • if you think that the quran is a satan anti christ book thein clearly you have no clue of the oragins of the bible in the quran thats why i beleve in neather of them for the bible was writen and chosen by men and guess wher the qurans contents wher in the stacks of paper wher man chose what went in and what didnt, everythings so distorted its like that game telephone but imagin it going thru a trillion peaple and four diferent languages

  • loving Thomas Jefferson

  • the founding fathers would be far more opposed to social conservative assholes than obama since they were generally progressive and christian deists not religious nutjobs

  • @sociopathicregret true but considering they beleive in small and constituional government, strict interpetation of the constittuion, ( most of them at least), a limited federal government and low taxes they would be more conservatives today.

  • @skatelongboards Yes but you have to note that they didn't understand the extent global policy and technology would play in things...that would change a lot. If they were conservatives, they certainly wouldn't be today's fake 'conservatives' who are just authoritarians

  • @sociopathicregret yeah i see your reasoning on that to but even than with today technology the constittuion still aplies. the federal government should follows their enumerated powers only and needs to be reduced in size and the military needs to be reigned in and we need to quit policing the world. thats something obama and alot of neo-cons like bush dont beleive in.

  • @skatelongboards the constitution isnt a divine or perfect document, but in general big government abuse has gone way too far. and whats appalling is that the so called 'conservatives' support big government even more than liberals, they scream for less government but big government is okay when it targets those outgroups like drug users or whatever. bloated military spending is ridiculous because its its own self sustaining mechanism and answers to no one

  • @skatelongboards trouble is also that we dont really know if obama supports those things, because presidents have far less power than most people think. theyve kind of become scapegoats

  • It is not just Obama my friend. The founding fathers are against the type of government we have for decades and decades.

    Left or right, white or black, christian or others. It doesn't matter, we have been straying away from the Constitutions. If you actually study the quotes from the founding fathers, you will see how much wisdom is there and the idea of true freedom.

    The Christians have been imposing their dominance over this nation in the State even though it is unconstitutional.

  • I am ashamed to share this beautiful country with someone with such narrow and twisted views loaded with hatred and prejudice. Nonetheless for my deepest love for the US Constitution I must quote Voltaire who once said: "I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it." Such is my love for the principles of our Constitution which includes its first amendment that gives you, my fellow countryman, the right to express yourself making such sad display of nonsense.

  • That said, don't think I condone lies that politicians tell We The People! Obama may have had a genuine intention to change things, but maybe now, he may have been order from those who really run US (and the world) to play the game according to their rules or else. If that's the case for sake of survival (literally), he'd have no choice short of sacrificing himself, family & loved ones. If he's not being forced, he's just the Nth liar! Then, BFwoop! Vote him out in 2012, no need for BS videos ;)

  • Im not a liberal, nor a conservative, nor a christian or muslim or any sort of zealot. However, you sir, are an idiot. You misinterpret history as well as Charlie Sheen interprets reality.

  • muslims were around in 1783.

  • half of what you say is complete BS. The other half is out of context and almost as twisted as your beliefs.

    Your statements correlating to dates are completely out of whack.

  • you twit in 1774 the theory of evolution had not been published - 1777 lack of Bibles blame the British where most of the printing was done - john adams never believed in the trinity - in 1800 they also had slavery - sodomy does not equal homesexual but rather dominance -

  • If the founding fathers were alive today they would be crying. A man in the highest office who has engaged in banking fraud of the highest order along with his wife. Barack Hussein Obama is an attorney using my co. of Zenadev and my estate (his DHS Janet made records of me dead)to state that the United States was NOT the United States of Canada or Mexico. We The People Against Corruption Campaign to Remove and Indict Obama et al or no usa. Day 203.Jan.19/2011. Honey Robin Siegal (imatruthsayer)

  • Oh brother! Talk about a bunch of crap!

  • "The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods, or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg." -Thomas Jefferson

  • you are just as much a lunatic as your father.

  • This is video is moronic.

  • Yes no gay marriage!!! Save that stuff for the confessional

  • How come every time you mention homosexuality, you show Charlton Heston kissing a Gorilla??? A FEMALE Gorilla!!!

    Your premise was that the founders didn't want a pres like Obama. How did this ridiculous hodge-podge of jumbled homophobic nonsense even come close to making that point. Seriously, dude, you are not a very clear thinker.

  • In 1777 they wanted to import bible into "the states of the Union"?? 1777? The Union??? The UNION? Anybody see anything weird about this? This is hilarious. Going back for more...

    Yes, they knew and loved the bible....they also had slaves, so that must be right, too.

    "All ships must have prayer..." If they did, it was illegal.  Hilarious stuff.

    "Koran is anti-trinity and therefore they are an anti-christ." Ditto Judaism ... definitly don't believe in the trinity.

  • Gee I thought the 1st act of the 1st congress was to establish evolution as a fact! Really? It wasn't? You do know that Darwin wrote Origin of Species in 1859...right? In addition to your bigotry, you're just a lazy, lazy writer. Yes, you are absolutely right ... John Adams did not support or endorse Charles Darwin. Proving evolution wrong. WTF??? Hilarious. Is this a parody?

  • Your awesome, keep up the good work. The people who believe otherwise that founding fathers don't truly research it or discount from an bias point of view of Atheism. Which people who seek real truth are enlightened and those who do not remain in misery of untruth. Good Job. Our Christian Fore Fathers are proud.

  • Jefferson:How'de that nigger get off his chain?

  • Soryy man, but this is a bullshit, bigoted, moronic video.

  • your f-ing nuts.

  • Our founding fathers would be ashamed of you! If you want to explain what the founding fathers meant by establishing the constitution, why don't you cite the CONSTITUTION! It's people like you that made our founding fathers nervous, that's why it's a secular piece.

    And BTW evolution IS a fact! There are many countries that still have theocracies, like Iran. Move there and pray for your safety!

  • Yea, you lost me when you implied that evolution was not a fact.

  • Founding fathers were not christians.

  • @mrcoffee999888 schmell yes! they were some kind of deists, illuminati or freemasons... anything but true christians. They designed country where everyone could live, be it protestants, jews, orthodox or even chinese

  • The founding fathers would think he was elected by the people of the United States 

  • Funny thing about the founding fathers, they're all dead. It really doesn't matter what they would have thought of Obama because it's 2010, not the 1700's. I'm not concerned about what dead men may or may not have thought. The world is a much different place today and people think differently. Obama is a new kind of president with different ideas for a new age. That's why most people voted for him.

  • @jons44 people voted for him cause he's shameless populist, casting impossible promises left and right

  • So is every politician. Of course he's gonna bullshit somewhat because he has to sell the product during his campaign. I mean c'mon, he's a Chicago lawyer, what do you expect? A politician that doesn't lie....there is no such animal. But in terms of ideas and personality, he's much more relevant than anyone out there today among the Dems or the GOP.

  • in 177 they weren't concerned about a national shortage of the origin of species which wasn't published until 24 November 1859, your problem is that you cant distance your arguments from your bias, cmon stop giving out obscure facts like they are the Achilles heel of atheism, I know all these facts you bring forth. The problem is that they hold very little bearing. You don't care however so my point is moot...

  • John Adams was also one of the FEW Founding Fathers that was NOT a Freemason

  • The founding fathers were Freemasons and Unitarian Universalist's. ( Universalists back then...) Freedom of religion and freedom of speech were their first issues. They also had slaves and grew marijuana/hemp. I'm not one to defend the current administration as I am a Ron Paul supporter, but this video is very biased and does not tell the whole picture. I'd fair to say the author is a racist bigot who hates gays and the indigenous spirituality of this continent. But he has the right to.

  • founding fathers also hated religion

  • This video is so exaggerated and overblown that it undercuts its own arguments. There have always been religious snake oil salesmen trying to rock the boat of government, and they have always been laughed at and ignored from 1776 until today (with a brief deviation into Bible-belt lunacy during the Bush years).

  • @Kth1177: Our Founding Fathers weren't atheists, but they weren't really Christians, either. They were deists.

  • erm..... good use of selective fact history. I now that method well from my days as a undergraduate. However what I didnt do was post a video on the internet trying to educate people people. while....well lieing and spouting irrelevancies.

  • I found this and the subtleies of your voice to be very homoerotic. It made me feel very uncomfortable, that type of denial usually does.

  • watch the video's titled is this a christian nation In that video a historian present some of these artifacts that this guy talks about.

  • So you spend a lot of the video proving that the Founding Fathers were Christian?

    Yet the Constitution also says government should not interfere with religion.

    Then you conclude that Obama is "ruining the country" because he isn't Christian?

    (but Obama actually is Christian)

    YOU are ruining this country.

  • actually most of our founding fathers were devoted masons. most of them have the masonic seal on their graves not the christian cross. so maybe you should get your facts straight. The four fathers used christianity is an ideology to govern. this guy needs to evolve

  • Pot growing slave owners.

  • (7:02) how i feel about this entire channel.

  • many of the founding fathers including George Washington, Thomas Jefferson, Ben Franklin, and more than likely many others smoked cannabis and grew hemp

  • As far as the sodomy with another soldier, the same thing would happen today even with a man and a woman in the military. You simply CAN NOT go around fucking the soldiers under you.

  • Wow TShoebat. I didn't think that by the title of your video that i would be listening to such stupidity. Why the hell are you rambling on about religion? Yes, the majority of the nation is christian but the Founders embraced religions freedom and put in the concept of separation of church and state.. This has nothing to do with government, and you are even poorly educated, if Muslims would of been around? they were, air head. And Thomas Jefferson was Agnostic, not believing in man made religion

  • The forefathers were infallible, and any deviation from their wishes is an affront to America. The fact that many of them were slave owners, that they lived in a completely different world than the one we live in now, and that they specifically created the constitution with the idea that it could be changed and amended as needed... those are all beside the point

  • tshoebat good stuff!

  • AGGH!!!!!!! Its retards like you who make us real americans look bad. Why don't you go burn yourselves in the name of god. That way those of us who really dont want big government can get on with it. And to all you liberals out there. You are idiots and feel good sheep. I HATE LEFT AND RIGHT WING IDIOTS, READ A FUCKING BOOK! your all going to be sorry you didn't listen to george washington and Abe Lincoln. You're all going to be slaves to the government. Thats the day im gunna be lmfao.

  • muslims were alive in those times.

  • well they did not want gays in the military so u don't have people going around sleeping with each other. back then it was only men in the service.

    for the prayers they wanted to more less boost moral in the people. u did not have to pray but it was better to have it. i'm a atheist and i can see the logic in there madness.

  • i wonder if all the founding fathers were alive, would they be republican or democrat

  • Republicons are masters of deceit !?!

  • The only mention of religion at all is in the first amendment to show freedom. The Declaration mentions a creator but nothing more. You have compelling evidence but you leave out all anti christian thing the ffs said. I have to say your video is an AWFUL representation of the ffs views and this is an AWFUL video.

  • What about the first amendment? And TJ, Adams, and Franklin were all diests and had just as many quotes against religion that were for it. And Darwin wasn't even born yet when the Declaration was signed. Muslims were around for the Treaty of Paris they just weren't in France or America at the time. To debunk your whole theory the constitution does not mention god, Jesus, or Christianity.

  • most of the founding fathers were Freemasons, and to be a Freemason u have to believe in God. so don't say that the bigger portion of them were not Christians, because they were, or at least believed in God like a Christian would

  • you are correct.. to be a Freemason you have to believe in god... but not the judeo-christian god... masonic belief in god is based on deism not theism... the masons do not align with any particular religion or god... just wanted to clarify... the founding fathers were deists and would not have believed in god like a christian would at all. Deism does not generally ascribe to organized religion or to divine intervention or a "personal god"

  • The founding fathers created the constitution knowing that no system of government will remain forever and designed the constitution to change over time.

    It's ironic to look to the Founding fathers for authority because they knew there would be issues they can't solve and created the constitution to be changed to tackle those issues.

    Hell the UDHR is arguably better then the US Bill of rights.

  • Worth watching: America's Heritage is not Christian: True or False?

  • Excellent Video!!!

  • The founding fathers wouldn't like Obama mostly because he's a black guy and because he's a puppet of banking and corporate interests. I don't think they would have cared so much for his religion.

  • What religion does Obama have

  • I don't know and I don't care. Obama's handlers are supremacist Jews, though. That's FAR MORE relevant ! !

  • They'd...be pretty pissed off. Not only at him for fucking us in the ass, but pissed off at alot of Americans because of their ignorance.

  • Your constant reference to Charles Dawing and the Founding Fathers is very odd. The Origion of Species was written in 1859, almost a century after the founding of the United States. If the Founding Fathers wanted to inject religion into the Constitution, why didn't they. Your arguments are completely without any factual backing. They Founding Fathers in todays context would have been equal to the 1960's militant left wing underground, not a Rush Limbaugh conservative.

  • Nice citation of when Darwin wrote the origin of species (which doesn't tell us the origin of life but meh) I knew that too :) He also said if Muslims were around & They Were, we just called em Muhammadans, kinda like we called Catholics Papists, except more accurate Because Muhammad is put on the same level as Allah in the Quran.

  • lsn2jah, the Founding Fathers, as a whole, agonized over slavery. They finally came down on the side if putting off settling the question of slavery in favor of maintaining the union of states. We paid for their shortcoming dearly in the Civil War, remember?

    Obama has neither humility nor wisdom, amply demonstrated since his inauguration. I wouldn't count on him listening to God either. Allah whispers too loudly in his ear for God to break through.

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  • With all due respect, most of the founding fathers probably wouldn't want me, a black woman, living anywhere but on one of their plantations. Since Obama is now our President, it is time to pray for the man and ask the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob to move this country as God desires. May Obama's humility and wisdom allow him to listen and respond to the voice of God in all matters. May God protect him from the evil one.

  • about any other religion or someone of another religion is one of the most un-christian things you can do...by that i mean judging someone else for something they believe which it says never to do in the bible

  • look, it is a well known fact that the founding fathers were devote christians no one is arguing against that...what ppl are saying is that the founding fathers wanted freedom for all men and all men deserve the same rights as any other man in this country. and darwin wasnt even alive back then which you keep talking like he was...obama IS a christian not a muslim so im pretty sure the founding fathers would approve. o and saying that the koran is the satanic bible and saying similar things

  • Doesnt matter if hes a Buddhist or a Satanist. This country is about separation of church and state. A place no man or women can be prosecuted for there beliefs. What matters is that Obama is all smiles and no action. He plays the blame game and draws the race card whenever he can. He is a under handed politician. He is a lier. He cares not of this country only of his power. On top of all this WE ARE GETTING NO RESULTS OUT OF HIS ADMINISTRATION. So far hes like a chicken with his head cut off

  • And what if you don't believe in the trinity?

    As I don't...I have to agree with Israel that the Lord is ONE GOD...when Jesus claimed to be God, is when they went out for his life. On the mount of temptation,Jesus told satan to not tempt the Lord thy God. 1 Tim.3;16..God was manifest in the flesh. If youve seen the me,youve seen the father Jesus told them!

  • Water comes in three states but no one worries about the unity of water; it can be gaseous, liquid or solid. That Jesus did only good, that he healed, that he gave good teachings on how to behave; but you have a good example of how to live, no better example of kindness or love. He was a good teacher and he said the father spoke through him. If God didn't speak through a good man like Jesus, he never spoke through anyone. Now consider the perfection of Muhammad, who murdered & raped.

  • Just loved this video... fact filled history that many have no clue of, or had forgotten. Thanks jamlimited3 great share! Great job tshoebat, God bless. 5*

  • GREAT IMAGERY, MUSIC, and FACTS!

    Thanks for bringing back numberless pages of American history that has been purposely deleted or buried by the ungodly who will in their due time answer for the offense. "God bless America - stand beside her and guide her through the night with the light from above"

  • Great video brother! I learned alot! Keep shining that light man!

  • Thanks man!

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