Liz Babbs interviewed on Christian Meditation - US TV

[john146only]

I do not see one place in all of scripture where Jesus, our teacher, or Paul for that matter, or any other binding biblical authority teach this Tm like manner of meditation, where repeating a word in vain meaningly repetitions, is even taught. We are to think, and use our mind to understand and think upon God's Word; it is a thick book of truth and we need to mentally chew on it to understand it as in biblical meditation to develop a Christian Worldview. What Ms Babbs is suggesting is occultic.

[Lizbabbs]

You've taken Matthew 6:7 (babblngs etc) out of context like many folk do. You might find it illuminating to talk to a Bible theologian about Matthew 6:7.

And remember:

'Man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart.' 1 Samuel 16:7

[machomuscleman1]

@Lizbabbs If you can show me from God's word where this type of meditation is taught, I will be happy to agree. I'm afraid this practice is man's (the desert fathers), who believed that as long as the desire for God was sincere, anything could be utilized. Remember, 2 Samuel 6:3-7. Uzzah did what was on his heart with good intentions, but his act was not in accordance with God's word, and God's anger was kindled and He smote Uzzah.Matt.6:7 fits as an accurate description of "sacred word prayer."

[machomuscleman1]

While it is definitely scriptural to meditate on the word of God and to think about how great and awesome our God is, it is not scriptural to use any word, even the name of Jesus as a mantra to repeat over and over while we focus on our breathing. This resembles Hindu or Buddhist meditation which takes a sacred word and turns it into a vehicle to alter consciousness, which makes the word lose it's true meaning.This way of prayer sounds much like something Jesus tells us not to do Matt 6:7

[Lizbabbs]

@machomuscleman1 Thanks for your comments.

You seem to have taken Matthew 6:7 (babblngs etc) out of context like many folk do. You might find it illuminating to talk to a Bible theologian about Matthew 6:7.

And remember:

'Man looks at the outward appearance, but God looks at the heart.' 1 Samuel 16:7

[machomuscleman1]

@Lizbabbs "By the way, when you pray, use not vain repetition". The word in Greek is bautalageo, which is kind of a "onomatopoetic". These words indicate a mindless, meaningless repetition of pseudo-spiritual incantations.Prayer is sharing the needs and burdens of the heart with a God who cares, not a system or a kind of vehicle to attempt to appease God, who as the very next verse tells us that "He knoweth what we have need of,before we ask him.

[john146only]

@machomuscleman1

That was beautiful and correct and well expressed, friend.

[john146only]

@machomuscleman1 You are 100% correct, MS Babbs would take us for fools......

[sthcrox]

yep. Jesus is our strength

[heavensclown]

Ron Luce is awesome!! Wish there were more men of God who will stand up for the truth like he does.

[msta100]

OOOOO LORD JEEESUS!!!! I said it like 12 times with my heart and mind and it feels soooo rich. O Lord Jesus I love You!!!

[rockrchick78]

Remarkable, a true blessing =) thanks so much Liz

[Lizbabbs]

Thanks for the encouragement.

[kingstonavenue]

Vow fantastic, amazing... sooo good. :) Thank you.

[Lizbabbs]

Brill - glad you found it helpful.

[dataloreforever]

JEEE-SUUUS, wow it works. I feel better.