one of the big reasons the 6000 hp locomotive wasn't further developed by GE and EMD was that the railroads themselves found that it was too much horsepower to be flexible in making up trains. They were finding that many trains needed only 7-9,000 hp and putting 2 6,000 hp locos on the lead was a waste. and trains only needing 5500 hp and puting just one loco on it lead to concerns of what happens if there is a problem. The train is then stalled on the main blocking traffic.
The H engine was a good engine But being a new engine things are going to go wrong . improvements general motors was not going to invest in. remember this was build around the time gm wanted to sell emd. China now uses them in there locomotives. 300 brand new h engines.
love that sound sitten still or 70 mph i remember when my dad had 8 of those hooked up dont remember hp but lots of power he was 45 years with katy 2 with up
Yeah it sucks that they weren't more successful. Every new locomotive is going to have its problems. Personally I think they were introduced before the industry was ready for them. Right now the limit for successful locomotives seems to be 4000-4400 hp. Maybe in the future there will be a place for 6000 hp locomotives.
EMD COPY CATS 4 STROKE IS A GE THING AND I HEARD EMD 4 STROKE DID NOT DO GOOD FOR THEM LIVE THE 4 STROKE TO GE AND EMD 2 STROKE
TheEmilychurchill 5 months ago
Ahh..yes. The chugging of a four cycle prime mover. Makes me think of the alco's I work on.
lennyos 1 year ago
Man, the 265H sounds like an ALCo 244... 8D
SpeakerPolice 1 year ago
one of the big reasons the 6000 hp locomotive wasn't further developed by GE and EMD was that the railroads themselves found that it was too much horsepower to be flexible in making up trains. They were finding that many trains needed only 7-9,000 hp and putting 2 6,000 hp locos on the lead was a waste. and trains only needing 5500 hp and puting just one loco on it lead to concerns of what happens if there is a problem. The train is then stalled on the main blocking traffic.
BudmanPackfan 1 year ago
@BudmanPackfan amazing how the 4 stroke 265 still had a hint of the EMD 2 cycle "thump" to it. :)
BudmanPackfan 1 year ago
@BudmanPackfan Also as I understand it, it doesn't have enough weight on wheels to fully utilize that 6,000 hp.
JetMechMA 5 months ago
@JetMechMA That is correct. What a shame! Only seen a few in operation. Most of them were not even on the UP!
labhunter1 3 months ago
The H engine was a good engine But being a new engine things are going to go wrong . improvements general motors was not going to invest in. remember this was build around the time gm wanted to sell emd. China now uses them in there locomotives. 300 brand new h engines.
scott4152 1 year ago
From a long time here in europe using 4 stroke engines. Prover rentability and fouel consuption and they avesome horsepower.
kdlehel 2 years ago
love that sound sitten still or 70 mph i remember when my dad had 8 of those hooked up dont remember hp but lots of power he was 45 years with katy 2 with up
maniacmarklewin52 2 years ago
Nothing like the knocking sound of 710.
Stigx1337 2 years ago
The 6000 horsepower EMD H engine was a piece of crap, thats why UP and CP retired them all.
troy12n 2 years ago
GEVO hasn't proved superior.
GMHGTO 2 years ago
Yeah it sucks that they weren't more successful. Every new locomotive is going to have its problems. Personally I think they were introduced before the industry was ready for them. Right now the limit for successful locomotives seems to be 4000-4400 hp. Maybe in the future there will be a place for 6000 hp locomotives.
massltca 2 years ago 2
make ya sad though that UP is getting rid of them...
UPrailroad 3 years ago
Not if you have to ride in them on a constant basis. They are very uncomfortable rides.
maz323se 3 years ago
THey are?? i've wondered why i've seen so few... why are they? Maybe they aren't cost effective or not good in train yards because of their length..
danwat1234 2 years ago
that is an sd90H since she has the 265 H engine inside her.
EMDFAN1988 3 years ago
Hehe, GE are all 4 cycle engines, and EMD are 2 cycle engines, except the 710,265-H engine!
Darkdiesel 3 years ago
It's 16V265H. The 710 is a two stroke, the 265 is a 4 stroke.
silicon212 2 years ago 7
16V-710 265-H Engine! 4cycle EMD!! great sound!!
Darkdiesel 3 years ago
I wondered why they sounded so different, are GE prime movers 4 cycle as well?
ZetanCrisp 3 years ago
GE's are all 4 cycle. EMD's except the 265-H which you just heard are all 2 cycle.. The 710G is NOT 4 cycle!
BNSF5608 3 years ago
Yes.
silicon212 2 years ago
Seems weird to hear an EMD chugging like a GE.
enr3870 3 years ago 13
@enr3870 Really wish that EMD could have added 4 more cylinders to the 20V710...
GordonFreemanD40 7 months ago