Karate will always be the best martial art and most powerful form of fighting, but only when someone uses it in practice, not theory. Spending 15 years practicing 8 strikes a second on a training partener who's stood still will not help at all in a real life combat threat. Practicing 15 years on heavy bags, moving, defending sparring parteners and real attackers, could go a long way to making you physically invincible in a fist fight.
I can't really see the point of dicussing which martial art is "better". Except in military cases, martial arts are most about sport. Course it makes a diference in a brawl to have some MA experience, but thats not the real point. Real self-defense is to avoid getting your life in risk for money or senseless pride. We are sportsmen more than any other thing, and besides respect and discipline, thats probably all we should actually carry from our dojos to other places.
@face2facechick Yes they are, there is a womens division in kyokushin tournaments too. Some famous women fighters are Yuka Kobayashi and Shizuka Murakami, try youtubing them.
wtf is with all this style vs style bs anybody who fights knows that its the FIGHTER that makes the difference styles are just moves the fighter that does them better will win whether its muay thai karate or watever the fuck....
@sirmiklo Not really, it's the training that makes the fighter. And since each style has a general training method, with clubs that make the exception, you can say that one style is better suited than another. For example: in a full contact fight, someone who practices full contact has the advantage over someone who only practices light contact. In a K-1 match, someone coming from muay thai has the advantage over a boxer since his arsenal is bigger. So styles are important.
@aiyer1989 well sure u wouldnt wanna train tai chi for a year and walk into a cagefight, but kyokushin is hard style alot like muay thai really as are alot of karate styles based on power and physical toughness. and a fighter can train in any style constantly but if he doesnt have the physical attributes and intelligence it takes to win, HE WONT. but he might get a bb in the 1000s of mcdojos that are all over the place
@sirmiklo Kyokushin would for me fall under the category of good striking styles such as muay thai, savate, other contact karate styles etc. I was thinking more along the likes how someone from Wing Chun, Bujinkan, no contact karate would be at a disadvantage against people from kyokushin, muay thai, savate in a full contact striking match.
omg im so glad to finally see true fighters talk on here .and yeah every martial is made to be the same they all work and none are weaker then the other. i mostly like all fighting styles.
What kind of Warriors are you to trashtalk other arts than your own? Have you no respect? To talk trash about other styles is a sign of ignorance and unwillingness to learn and cherish the element of learning and change. You can gain strength and power, but to be a true Warrior, one must go deeper than just the physical level. Ask anyone of the former masters (who the masters are can be debated, of course) such as Bruce Lee or Yip Man. Do you think they were reluctant to learn from others?
I see there is still so much ignorance in some people's comments... first of all: no art is better than another the art must be felt in it's values and spirit... and to the ignorant dickhead down me it's no matter a grappling art is gay or what i've met people capable of grabbing kicks at every speed and finalizing in a single movement so it's the pratictioner that develops the art with his training i train in brazilian jujitsu and i respect Kyokushinkaikas as fighters with heart and values
how come every asshole on youtube thinks they are the end all master of martial arts you all suck this is the last time i will ever read a fucking comment on you tube you are all retards and i hope you all die young in a fight with an 8 year old, and always remewmber grappling and submission arts are only gay if you look each other in the eye so go roll around on the ground like homos and love it with all your heart
Learn to defend yourself and stop bitching... Most of us have EARNED the right to speak by winning a tournament spite a broken finger or a cracked rib, staying on a fight until the end spite a bloody nose, going through a grueling two hour test - first doing calisthenics until you can't stand anymore and then brutally fighting ten or fifteen people in a row, who want to see you drop to your knees. We EARNED our bragging rights, bitch. Go earn yours and stop being a pussy...
who the fuck do you think you are I am a black belt in kenpo karate i know how to defend myself i have also won countless karate taekwondo and kick boxing matches but even if that wasn't the case what does the diatribe you put together have to do with the post your replying to, and for that matter what am i supposed to be earning. i don't practice or compete for that matter 'bragging rights' only insecure assholes like you do that.
You are the one throwing salt and directing hate comments towards all the pople who comment about their martial arts knowledge on Youtube. Any comments on that, doctor?
knowledge what knowledge you fucking dirtbag i havn't read an intelligent comment on on here ever and why do you keep saying things that have nothing to do with my comments i never said i was a doctor you spick dipshit im a godamn computer tech
people need to think outside the box...no matter they style you pick the punch that connects is the one that is going to hurt...no matter the style that punch is as brutal as your foe...punch or kick it does not matter the style is the skill and the experience of the fighter...
Stop thinking you can tell people what to do. It's clear as a sunny day that a Kyokushin Karateka would K.O. a Muaythai fighter in a split of a second. So stop lying to people, and yourself with your bullshit.
You'd better stop thinking that there are styles better than others and learn some martial artists' ethics and respect for other styles
Why don't you go explain that to the muay thai fighter who got his ass KO'd in the first fight ever staged in Thailand between Oyama's students and muay thai fighters??? Why don't you explain that to Kyokushin's Andy Hug who knocked out so many muay thai fighters I think he probably lost count... YOU STUPID FUCK??? If you don't know shit about anything, you'd be smart to KEEP QUIET!!!
The only reason you're saying it's unefficient is because you've been brainwashed into thinking that's the cool thing to say by the MMA fad that says Muay Thai and BJJ are the only martial arts in the world. Georges St. Pierre is a UFC fighter and a Black Belt in Kyokushin. Masutatsu Oyama dropped a bull in his prime, and emphasized hard full-contact sparring in training. Kyokushin fighters have owned Muay Thai fighters in competition. Guys like you just come on youtube to hear yourselves talk.
I actually train with a couple guys who practice Kyokushin. I find them to be very competent in a structured fight. I would put it at 50/50 with MT, or any other from the caste of overwhelmingly hard styles. In a well matched fight, it's basically whoever is hungrier. I know people who practice MA for health, discipline, self-defense, confidence, and competition. Frankly, I don't care why anyone chooses to pursue a particular MA as long as it provides them with what they want from it.
I feel the same way as you. I just can't stand people who come on these vids talking trash about other kinds MA. Unfortunately, a lot those people seem to MMA enthusiasts who favor the MT/BJJ combo. I'm not saying that they're all like that, but it just seems that most of the trash-talkers fall into that category.
im tired of people knocking tkd...do you really think in a streetfight a tkd practitioner (not practioner) would stick to the same rules as in a competition? a person who practices traditional tkd can use their skills in a real fight just like someone who is dedicated to another art. they know how to punch too,i cant speak for all tkd but we practice punching,locks and holds,as well as dynamic kicking,i use to practice gung fu,and the training in tkd is not lacking benefitial results...
Even if they don't stick to the rules they have in competitions, do you really believe that if you never train under these conditions (bare hands, no armors, correct guard, connecting with fists, blocking and avoiding punches) you can pull it off in a real fight?
This goes for tkd, but also for other martial arts which are becomming martial sports (judo, non contact karate;wkf, wrestling, etc...)
All martial arts have it strengths and weakness! For it to be effective in real
life fighting, you need to incorporate
all the effective methods from each
style such as karate, tkd, judo, bjj,
wrestling, boxing etc. They all
have strengths and weaknesses, and
it all can be incorporated in your game plan! Judo has excellent throws but lacks striking, muay thai has great striking but lacks grappling, tkd has dynamic kicks but creativiity! You have to respect all martial arts for what it is!
Even i don't think tkd has much to bring ( or not as much as other MA). What you said about weaknesses and strenghth is absolutely true as for the part of training in multiple arts that specialize on different aspects of the fight :)
I agree, im a mixed martial artist, one thing i learned is that all martial arts have its strengths and weaknesses! I dont particularly one particular style but many!! TKD has a pretty good spinning back kick that can be used in Mixed Martial Arts,& its very useful! People who bash tkd, has no respect for all martial arts, and dont know what there talking about! Every martial art has a good piece that can be used in real fighting and can be effective way to fight! TKD has nice kicks!
@dylanhazard We're only knocking TKD because its practitioners learn less useful fighting skills that those of many other martial arts, including BJJ, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, etc.
I'm also unimpressed by seeing people abusing cows. Whether it be bare-handed or with a red cloth and sword, cows are for eating, don't play with your food!
As a side note, I've never heard of someone walking down the street, minding their own business, and having a cow charge them out of nowhere.
bull fighting was for power demonstration. Breaking bricks or ice is for testing your power. 100 man kumite is for testing your physical and mental skills ;) or 300 man in 3 days, that's hard core ;D
Ive seen these things before, pretty hard stuff. Im BJJ guy but I have nothing but respect for this style of Karate. Muay Thai too and yes shotokan. Everyone has their preference and believes their doing the most effective method. I've seen powerful people come from nearly every style out there. Some people are right that when you train with karate you defend against karate, still it translates well (my friend like taken me). I love discussing with different styles, but why get angry n dish?
Just because somone does one diciplin like kyokushin, does not mean that is all they know!
i myself adjust to the situation! i use my weapons in defence according to the other fighters attacks!
just because i do kyokushin! doesnt mean thats what i am limited to.. because if you try to grapple me, i will not allow it! i will use my initiative and fuck you up! its simple az that!!
its not the style you train! its how you think and fight that counts!!! stupid people...think about it!
That is the Smartest thing iv heard all month. You're 100% right.
I do shotokan karate, more traditional style, and everyone says its not effective because of the point sparring system, this does not mean i cant adapt it to real life ! i was attacked on the street by a man much stronger than me, with technique he was down. Its not the style its how you use it !
You know mnothing about matrial arts... Every fighter gets used to the rules of every federation. Many of Kyokushin fighters dont have problem to fight in the K-1 or Ufc . Its just bout the rules in the Federation.
@riopieboy You must be trolling. there are many MMA fighters who use Kyokushin technique GSP, Bas Rutten, Gerard Gordeau, Katsinori Kikuno, Andrews Nakahara etc. Glaube Feitosa was in Shogun's camp helping him train for his last Machida fight. Kyokushin is solid, useful stuff.
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In all of the footage I haven't seen a single useful defensive move. Makes me wonder.
It's just alternating exchange of attacks until somebody hits a vital spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but besides the single presentations at the beginning this didn't impress me at all.
Well, I'm no expert, but my understanding of Oyama is that he wasn't a very defensive sort of person... therefor, his karate would probably NOT feature a whole lot in the way of defense...
Yeah, this is good stuff. I trained Shitoryu karate for 6 years, but I got sick of all those katas and weak-ass semi/no-contact. It just didn`t get any realistic, and the truth is,you can be a black-belt in any karate-style (except Kyokushin) and think you`re a tough-guy, but if you`d ever get involved in a REAL fight, you might (to your astonishment) get your ass kicked bad,cause you`ve never had any real contact-training. If I ever get into martial arts again,I`m going for jiu-jitsu though.
Just one thing to remember about jiu jitsu is you can only fight one opponent at a time if you go to the ground. Your best chance of survival in the street is a stand up style like Kyokushin or Muay Thai because it gives you more options to attack, move and escape. What if your street opponent/attacker has other people with him to help out? You can only grapple one at a time. The ground is the worst place to be in a street fight regardless of training.
actually its best the slam people on the ground in a street fight, its faster and its just plain out better, any way, BJJ was developed for street fighting in Rio, unlike Kyokushin, TKD, Muay Thai (I train in MT so not slamming it) that were developed in Rings, Dojo's (Kyokushin) or by a crazy nationalist regime TKD, BJJ works on the street, it works in the ring, its generally good
You are pretty young & I'm not trying to insult you but you don't really have a lot of experience or knowledge just yet. Kyokushin was not developed in or for the ring. It grew into that after the 1st few tourneys created to spread the style throughout the world. Many younger generation Instructors & Dojos have forgotten or don't teach the street defense aspect of Kyokushin. They focus too much on tournament training unfortunately.
I started Kyokushin in '82 when I was 12 yrs old & am now a 3rd Dan with 27 yrs experience. I was fortunate to learn the older style of Kyokushin that focused on brutal street defense techniques. Whether you slam your attacker to the ground or take him out with a stand up technique, the goal is to neutralize the attack & incapacitate your attacker(s) as quickly as possible & get out of the situation immediately. There are many ways to do that, but none are solely the best.
Excuse me. One correction and apology I owe you from one of my replies to you is that you did say Kyokushin was developed in the Dojo not the ring. However, there is no relevance as to where it was developed regarding it's street effectiveness. It has already been tested & proven effective.
but it still lacks proper face punching technique, punching, not to say its bad, TKD is bad... It just lacks many elements, also throwing some one head first into pavement (a-la judo) is faster then punching them in the gut and then kicking them In the head. So I guess judo is the real winner here
Well there are several points for you to understand and do hear what you are saying. But what you see in vids on youtube & such is just a small portion of the Kyokushin style. You are seeing tournaments, with rules & limitations so you will never see all that Kyokushin teaches & trains unless you visit & train in a good Dojo yourself. Mas Oyama (Kyokushin Founder) was a Judoka as well & incorporated Judo throws/takedowns in the training. Also Aiki Jujitsu which is similar to Aikido joint locks.
The proper face punching is included in a good Kyokushin Dojos training also. As I said earlier too many newer Dojos are tournament focused and you see the hands down since they know there is no face punching. However this is lazy & dangerous because high kicks are allowed & when you see the fighters with hands down you also see high kick knockouts. One other thing to remember is in big tournaments the fighters who advance have several matches a day over 2 days & are already tired & beat up.
Big tournaments with many competitors, especially the World Tournament, is a test of endurance, will & fighting spirit as much as it is a test of skill. These are full power punches & kicks with no protective equipment except a cup & an optional mouthpiece. It takes a huge toll on the body from the punishment though some shots don't look like much. Search for clips that have the actual tournament sound & not some music track over it. You will hear the hard shots clearly.
All of Frank Dux records are questionable and unverified. Skilled boxers are quite dangerous and should be respected. There's a reason many skilled Martial Artists....including Kyokushin Karateka... cross train with boxing.
What a load of bullsh|t. Only a d|ckhead thinks you need to train in full-contact in order to attain effective self-defense. You don't have to get the sh|t kicked out of you while sparring in order to know how to defend yourself. This style is for aggro ass-holes.
You don't 'need' to train full contact,but it is one of many effective training methods out there if you don't like it then fine don't do it,ive done Kyokushinkai for a long time in various different country and have encountered very few "aggro ass-holes" .
No, you`re wrong. I trained Shito-ryu for 6 years,and it never gives you a real feel for what a REALISTIC street-fight is. The thing is: When training karate,you`re sparring against other karate-practitioners, so you`re defending yourself against karate ATTACKS. Straight, long punches, front and side kickes, an occasional attempted throw, etc. It`s not realistic. In a real streetfight, it`s all pushing, swinging fists, wrestling and grappling, not fukking kiiaii-here comes the punch and sidekick
yeah your training against karate fighters, but who in the world on the street would have the skill and power to be able to grapple a kyokushin practicioner. unless mma trained. these men would put you down before you could even react. and if you did hit them, its quite obvious your gonna do no damage.
Thats what I said, dude. Read the whole discussion. I was talking about all the NON-contact karate forms, like shito-ryu and so forth. Not kyokushin: They train for real contact. Of all the karate forms, its the most realistic.
Well, it all depends on who is teaching the style. I personally have trained many styles over the years. For instance, one Shotokan instructer of mine NEVER wanted to train realistic sparring, and barely sparred at all. Another Shotokan instructor stressed that we MUST train for full-contact opponents, which I strongly agree with. All Karate styles were originally meant to maim or kill in defence or on the battlefield...it just depends on who is teaching them in this generation.
kyokushin is almost as realistic as semi contact karate forms. theres no head punchs, and thats a big deal. in non contact there is at least practice punchs to the head.
I agree 100% ive trained in kyokushin before but now believe the best fighting style for the street without a doubt is muay thai. The strikes are second to none and the throwing and clinching techniques are what you could actually use on the street. Still there are some elements of kyokushin that are good and the conditioning in REAL kyokushin dojus is also solid. I just wish i knew more about muay thai when i was younger i wouldnt have spent all those years shouting kias in the doju.
I started doing Xing-Yi Quan, then did taekwondo for over 8 years. I want to start learning kyokushin. It looks very effective and beautiful at the same time. I love the direct, practical techniques of kyokushin. Also the kata's look very exciting to learn.
The creation of Kyokushin was based on Mas Oyamas phylosophy of Budo, the reason we dont punch to the head is because it would be... well.. fatal, with the propper amount of training we are taught that if we can avoid hitting to the head and face, naturally, we go against our limitations and we can do it very well.
That's why I highly respect fighters like George St. Pierre and Lyoto Machida. They adapt their Karate to techniques in MMA. Considering they know where to strike someone, even at an MMA fighter, with one forceful lethal blow. They have a lot of self control in that sport. BJ Penn yelling that he would be willing to kill another MMA Fighter. GSP schooled him back to basics in their last fight.
George St. Pierre from UFC trains HIGHLY...HIGHLY...in Kyokushin Karate, so does Lyoto Michida, and both are recent CHAMPIONS of MMA sport. That tells you that gay grappling is not all that!
Grappling = touching men in ways a gay man would! LOL!
BJJ is good im MMA to know but not on the street if you try to do BJJ on the street you will find out you will get knockout out. when you are trying to submit someone on the ground on the street he friend or someone will give you one.
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Dude, you know nothing about real fight...Most street fight ends with fighting in clinch, sometimes on the ground.
the only gay is dude like you who think that real fight is only punching and kicking. it's more natural for human to fight with grappling than with strikes.
And remember that none of MA is created for fight with many enemies. They will kick your ass if they would want to do it. And you should know that there were some grappling techniques in kyokushin long time ago....
HAHA...you obviously haven't been around the world that much. I've lived in the Philippines where my house was close to areas that are dangerous. I've been cut, slammed, stabbed (3x), and broken my leg more than you slept with a chic. The last thing you would want in a "REAL FIGHT" is clinch with someone who you don't know would have a knife hidden in his pockets. Or worse, a friend of his is watching you fight with him, and makes a move at you when your hugging him down to the ground. DEAD!
So if guy has a knife you will defeat him with kicks form distance?Idiot...It works only in movie.And moreover i didnt say that you ahve to fight in the ground, but clinch is good.I know a judo guy who defeated 2 attackers. He slammed one, then he did the same thing with the other one. I someone wants to kill you kill you,he will do it. I dont care about "negative comment" it only proves that most ppl dont what to say so they give a negative,beacuse it's easier for such gays:)
WOW...the truth is, the closer you are to any attacker, armed or not, the higher you put yourself at risk. I've trained in several MMA styles and have trained 3+years in BJJ. I've seen weaknesses in each disc. and studied it to overcome them. The truth is my friend, clinching someone in a "REAL STREET FIGHT" can cause you, a huge as whoopin', or worse, your life. Depending also on the mass of your opponent, or if he's in an armed situation.
You may not want to use techniques like kicking, cause you see them in the movies, but I'd rather take my chances from a distance than clinch someone upclose who has a weapon.
Ok if i would be attacked with someone using weapon i would:
1 try to ran away
2if attacker would want to take my money, phone i could:
give it to him, just to save my life
OR take my own weapon but i would do it only in -life-or-death situation.
It'sgood you trained BJJ. At least you know something about, not like fags who call it gay.I hope you know that clinch lets you to control bigger guys in many ways:) And the most mportant thing - you never know how the fight may look.
They don't allow head strikes because they want to keep the matches bareknuckle. Seems pretty hardcore until you look at some of the matches where guys will just stand in front of each other and eat half-power body shots for minutes on end. Kyokushin fighters are tough, but they develop some really bad defensive habits from not having to worry about guarding their faces and heads. That's why you see so many headkick knockouts in Kyokushin--nobody is ever ready for them.
It's pointless to compare different martial arts to each other and judge them negatively. Taekwondo and karate are both very complete. Taekwondo is derived from Hapkido and has many techniques including grappling, punching and very effective fighting. I suppose you're referring to the demo's of tkd that you see with all the acrobatics, but that is not traditional tkd. Check out the "northern itf taekwondo" videos. They're very similar to kyokushin. Karate and tkd are both very complete and good.
The thing is, taekwondo is known for what ppl see at the Olympics or acrobatic demos. Grandmasters (7th/8th Dan) don't fight like that. They fight more straightforward, quick and with a proper defense, like kyokushin. It's just that the young ppl at competitions make it look as if tkd has no defense and is all sloppy kicking.
Simply that there seem to be no strikes to the head 9though kicks seem to be ok.) It always disturbs me to see chest level gaurds that dont protect the head. I'm 6'4", heads are what I live for.
Heads would still be what you lived for you would just have to knee rather than punch to the head,also the title of this film is a bit misleading the tournament discipline is not the be all and all of Kyokushinkai .
shut the hell up if you think that then you dont know shit about kyokushin kyokushin is very powerful practitioners have beatin some major martial arts
lol @ serbia604... mas oyama defeated 270 fighters and knocked them in less than 3 minutes the fuck out. kyokushin is not that fancy shmancy dancing you see in hollywood movies. this is serious buisness.
obviusly, if you ko 270 "fighters" out in less then 3 sec, you're full of bullshit, Tyson couldn't have done that xD
It's the most fullcontact of Karate sport styles, that it is, but still have problems when facing styles who are more fullcontact then themselvs, like muay thai og san da, mma, ect ect
Indeed it's a full contact sport, I started a month ago and the training is pretty intense. Also, I might add, that you get more power from a kick then a punch, it's pretty distinguishing.
Yes, but also, the punch is faster, and more accuret, hence the prefered KO tool in fullcontact matches like muay thai and k-1 and ufc is the hands, as the leg is big and powerfull and has a long reach, but less accuret and slower(easier to see it coming and block or dodge)wheras the punch is much easier put into combinations(which again gives more clean hits), so both weapons have it's ups and downs^^
I was explaining wrong. He knocked the most of them out in less than 3 MINUTES . And not all at once. Dont believe me? Google for Oyama. And why should be muay thai or else be a problem? See Glaube Feitosa who is also using kyokushin style? He is facing every technique on this planet and he still seems to be very tough to defeat. :P
3 min is possible, HUGE difrence between 3 sec and 3 min... It's especialy possible if hey're all Karatekas who are world famous for having a good guard and being able to take a hit to the head...(sarcasm^_^)
Muay Thai and other more fullcontact styles are sports inwhich you incorporate boxing and other stuff aswell, I've fought Kyokushin guys with 6-8 years omre of experience and up to 10-15kg weight on me, and I have to say, Kyokushin karatekas are some of the most hardent guys in the world
to the BODY that is, most can't handle boxing at all, caus the style dosn't really expose the to it, and boxing is the NR 1 knock out tool in all competetiv fighting, muay thai has elbows, knees, all that shit, has nothing to do with it as the majority of KOs still come from a knock out punch to the head..
It is really weird though. Pure logic would say that if they can knock out someone with a puch to body shouldn't it be quite easy when punching to head and knock a guy out? even when using boxing gloves. I have watched a few of ewerton teixeiras fights in K-1 and it really seems like he has to learn to box.
hehe, the head is easier to defend, and, it's two difrent ways of being knocked out, a body shot KO is pure pain, you can't fight caus you liver gets hit and you lose control, ect ect, a real knock out to the head shuts the brain off, I find it easier to win by body shot(I love to go to the body) then the head, there's an old saying in boxing; "if you kill the body, the head will follow" =P
as for K-1, watch K-1 MAX, not the heavyweights, the HW divsion can't fight
But yes, it's fucking esy to knock out people who arn't used to boxing, if you havn't been punched in the head on a regular basis, you're not used to it, and then it's nighty night
"But yes, it's fucking esy to knock out people who arn't used to boxing, if you havn't been punched in the head on a regular basis, you're not used to it, and then it's nighty night"
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Is that your expert opinion? I've takes a couple seriously hard hits to the head before and getting hit in the head AT ALL is extremely rare for me. EXTREMELY rare. The hits barely phased me, and I'm by no means a big guy. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
LOL, try stepping into a fullcontact ring with boxing (or MT or somethin' like that) THEN come back and stat your opinons about things you obviusly don't know shit about, untill you have, go do kata's or something
BOXING?!!! Are you serious?!!! I would LOVE to see ANY pro boxer go up against someone even ALMOST as good as Frank Dux. He'd never know what hit him.
In a match between the average 2-year Shotokan martial artist (Shotokan is not full-contact), and the average boxer of two years, the boxer would lose almost every time.
first of, I'd bet on the boxer, secondly, it would depend on te rules. cause boxers only have one weapon, why not say Shotokanka vs Nak muay (thaiboxer), both with 2 years, I can basicly garantiee the nakmuay winning (of course depending on the rules)
I left home when I was 15 yrs old. I had 10yrs living away from home. Those were good times and also bad times. I came across Kyokushin after spending weeks watching differents styles' training session. Kyokushin stole my heart the moment I watch the training. I trained for 6 yrs before I left for another country/job. Those 6 yrs helped me so much. Kyokushin was my life, my family ... I wish I never stopped. now its 15yrs later and I still think about it. OSU!
Where can I found it with the Original Audio?... The First One
nosoyalguien 5 months ago
video quality is shit
ryan12629 5 months ago
covardia expor sua força em um touro, quanto ao resto eu gostei, mas espero que esses de mente curta covarde se afastem da arte do karate
marceloseven3 7 months ago
osu!best video I am always watching it thanks for uploading this video! :)
YoLittleDoggy 9 months ago
Karate will always be the best martial art and most powerful form of fighting, but only when someone uses it in practice, not theory. Spending 15 years practicing 8 strikes a second on a training partener who's stood still will not help at all in a real life combat threat. Practicing 15 years on heavy bags, moving, defending sparring parteners and real attackers, could go a long way to making you physically invincible in a fist fight.
AShallowBay 10 months ago
@AShallowBay i agree with you, but the same can be said about all martial arts not just karate
airsoftwannabe618 6 months ago
I can't really see the point of dicussing which martial art is "better". Except in military cases, martial arts are most about sport. Course it makes a diference in a brawl to have some MA experience, but thats not the real point. Real self-defense is to avoid getting your life in risk for money or senseless pride. We are sportsmen more than any other thing, and besides respect and discipline, thats probably all we should actually carry from our dojos to other places.
3314080 11 months ago 2
@3314080 Sportsmen? Sport? We are? And Martial arts are? You thinks so...
pastropmal 5 months ago
OSU! from Australia
TheKyokushinPSYCHO 1 year ago
This may seem like a silly question but are women allowed to practice kyokushin?
face2facechick 1 year ago
@face2facechick Yes they are, there is a womens division in kyokushin tournaments too. Some famous women fighters are Yuka Kobayashi and Shizuka Murakami, try youtubing them.
powermans 1 year ago
wtf is with all this style vs style bs anybody who fights knows that its the FIGHTER that makes the difference styles are just moves the fighter that does them better will win whether its muay thai karate or watever the fuck....
sirmiklo 1 year ago
@sirmiklo Not really, it's the training that makes the fighter. And since each style has a general training method, with clubs that make the exception, you can say that one style is better suited than another. For example: in a full contact fight, someone who practices full contact has the advantage over someone who only practices light contact. In a K-1 match, someone coming from muay thai has the advantage over a boxer since his arsenal is bigger. So styles are important.
aiyer1989 1 year ago
@aiyer1989 well sure u wouldnt wanna train tai chi for a year and walk into a cagefight, but kyokushin is hard style alot like muay thai really as are alot of karate styles based on power and physical toughness. and a fighter can train in any style constantly but if he doesnt have the physical attributes and intelligence it takes to win, HE WONT. but he might get a bb in the 1000s of mcdojos that are all over the place
sirmiklo 1 year ago
@sirmiklo Kyokushin would for me fall under the category of good striking styles such as muay thai, savate, other contact karate styles etc. I was thinking more along the likes how someone from Wing Chun, Bujinkan, no contact karate would be at a disadvantage against people from kyokushin, muay thai, savate in a full contact striking match.
aiyer1989 1 year ago
@aiyer1989 agreed, btw to me no contact karate is a HUUGE oxymoron....lol....
sirmiklo 1 year ago
OSU!!!
busterwolf97 1 year ago
Hey guys. I've uploaded this video along with 'The Russians in Kyokushin' with audio. Check my channel for the videos.
powermans 1 year ago 34
omg im so glad to finally see true fighters talk on here .and yeah every martial is made to be the same they all work and none are weaker then the other. i mostly like all fighting styles.
dominking16 1 year ago
that poor fucking bull but this is ownage lol
MrDollerbill 1 year ago
What kind of Warriors are you to trashtalk other arts than your own? Have you no respect? To talk trash about other styles is a sign of ignorance and unwillingness to learn and cherish the element of learning and change. You can gain strength and power, but to be a true Warrior, one must go deeper than just the physical level. Ask anyone of the former masters (who the masters are can be debated, of course) such as Bruce Lee or Yip Man. Do you think they were reluctant to learn from others?
fetoww 2 years ago 6
nice
finally!!
mindlessly beating the shit out of eachother became a sport! woo
highrapture 2 years ago
0:56 is how i fight best
joncobber 2 years ago
Tough as hell style/competition - not a style for pussies.
goldenagenut 2 years ago
I see there is still so much ignorance in some people's comments... first of all: no art is better than another the art must be felt in it's values and spirit... and to the ignorant dickhead down me it's no matter a grappling art is gay or what i've met people capable of grabbing kicks at every speed and finalizing in a single movement so it's the pratictioner that develops the art with his training i train in brazilian jujitsu and i respect Kyokushinkaikas as fighters with heart and values
Deusex86 2 years ago 3
how come every asshole on youtube thinks they are the end all master of martial arts you all suck this is the last time i will ever read a fucking comment on you tube you are all retards and i hope you all die young in a fight with an 8 year old, and always remewmber grappling and submission arts are only gay if you look each other in the eye so go roll around on the ground like homos and love it with all your heart
tommiesmallz 2 years ago
Learn to defend yourself and stop bitching... Most of us have EARNED the right to speak by winning a tournament spite a broken finger or a cracked rib, staying on a fight until the end spite a bloody nose, going through a grueling two hour test - first doing calisthenics until you can't stand anymore and then brutally fighting ten or fifteen people in a row, who want to see you drop to your knees. We EARNED our bragging rights, bitch. Go earn yours and stop being a pussy...
josepablobolanos 2 years ago
who the fuck do you think you are I am a black belt in kenpo karate i know how to defend myself i have also won countless karate taekwondo and kick boxing matches but even if that wasn't the case what does the diatribe you put together have to do with the post your replying to, and for that matter what am i supposed to be earning. i don't practice or compete for that matter 'bragging rights' only insecure assholes like you do that.
tommiesmallz 2 years ago
You are the one throwing salt and directing hate comments towards all the pople who comment about their martial arts knowledge on Youtube. Any comments on that, doctor?
josepablobolanos 2 years ago
knowledge what knowledge you fucking dirtbag i havn't read an intelligent comment on on here ever and why do you keep saying things that have nothing to do with my comments i never said i was a doctor you spick dipshit im a godamn computer tech
tommiesmallz 2 years ago
LOL. OK, you didn´t get the joke. No harm done! Let´s not argue anymore.. hahaha...
josepablobolanos 2 years ago
people need to think outside the box...no matter they style you pick the punch that connects is the one that is going to hurt...no matter the style that punch is as brutal as your foe...punch or kick it does not matter the style is the skill and the experience of the fighter...
camarada911 2 years ago
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wil579 2 years ago
Stop thinking you can tell people what to do. It's clear as a sunny day that a Kyokushin Karateka would K.O. a Muaythai fighter in a split of a second. So stop lying to people, and yourself with your bullshit.
You'd better stop thinking that there are styles better than others and learn some martial artists' ethics and respect for other styles
BallinMOB 2 years ago
Why don't you go explain that to the muay thai fighter who got his ass KO'd in the first fight ever staged in Thailand between Oyama's students and muay thai fighters??? Why don't you explain that to Kyokushin's Andy Hug who knocked out so many muay thai fighters I think he probably lost count... YOU STUPID FUCK??? If you don't know shit about anything, you'd be smart to KEEP QUIET!!!
josepablobolanos 2 years ago
The only reason you're saying it's unefficient is because you've been brainwashed into thinking that's the cool thing to say by the MMA fad that says Muay Thai and BJJ are the only martial arts in the world. Georges St. Pierre is a UFC fighter and a Black Belt in Kyokushin. Masutatsu Oyama dropped a bull in his prime, and emphasized hard full-contact sparring in training. Kyokushin fighters have owned Muay Thai fighters in competition. Guys like you just come on youtube to hear yourselves talk.
44excalibur 2 years ago 3
I actually train with a couple guys who practice Kyokushin. I find them to be very competent in a structured fight. I would put it at 50/50 with MT, or any other from the caste of overwhelmingly hard styles. In a well matched fight, it's basically whoever is hungrier. I know people who practice MA for health, discipline, self-defense, confidence, and competition. Frankly, I don't care why anyone chooses to pursue a particular MA as long as it provides them with what they want from it.
Theonlydump 2 years ago 2
I feel the same way as you. I just can't stand people who come on these vids talking trash about other kinds MA. Unfortunately, a lot those people seem to MMA enthusiasts who favor the MT/BJJ combo. I'm not saying that they're all like that, but it just seems that most of the trash-talkers fall into that category.
44excalibur 2 years ago 3
im tired of people knocking tkd...do you really think in a streetfight a tkd practitioner (not practioner) would stick to the same rules as in a competition? a person who practices traditional tkd can use their skills in a real fight just like someone who is dedicated to another art. they know how to punch too,i cant speak for all tkd but we practice punching,locks and holds,as well as dynamic kicking,i use to practice gung fu,and the training in tkd is not lacking benefitial results...
dylanhazard 2 years ago 10
Even if they don't stick to the rules they have in competitions, do you really believe that if you never train under these conditions (bare hands, no armors, correct guard, connecting with fists, blocking and avoiding punches) you can pull it off in a real fight?
This goes for tkd, but also for other martial arts which are becomming martial sports (judo, non contact karate;wkf, wrestling, etc...)
Kind regards
laokon 2 years ago
All martial arts have it strengths and weakness! For it to be effective in real
life fighting, you need to incorporate
all the effective methods from each
style such as karate, tkd, judo, bjj,
wrestling, boxing etc. They all
have strengths and weaknesses, and
it all can be incorporated in your game plan! Judo has excellent throws but lacks striking, muay thai has great striking but lacks grappling, tkd has dynamic kicks but creativiity! You have to respect all martial arts for what it is!
stockmaster1982 2 years ago 3
i think we agree on the basic thoughts :)
Even i don't think tkd has much to bring ( or not as much as other MA). What you said about weaknesses and strenghth is absolutely true as for the part of training in multiple arts that specialize on different aspects of the fight :)
laokon 2 years ago
i totally agree with you, even people who knock wtf tkd as well and say itf is better. its ridiculous!
JPlesley 2 years ago
what about ground fighting?
jrod8496 2 years ago
agree, take alook at ITF. my sempai also took tkd even though he is a kyokushin 2nd black belt
lawker777 2 years ago
stockmaster1982 2 years ago
@dylanhazard real tkd is moo duk kwan the military tkd
khairuleven 1 year ago
@dylanhazard We're only knocking TKD because its practitioners learn less useful fighting skills that those of many other martial arts, including BJJ, Krav Maga, Muay Thai, etc.
VBAadmin 7 months ago
@VBAadmin what would that be then
SFNDMK 6 months ago
Yeah its nice to cross train...but...come on lets not go MMA. Its better to be master of one then a master of none.
bgcorporation 2 years ago 3
"Very good, but brick, no fight back".
I'm also unimpressed by seeing people abusing cows. Whether it be bare-handed or with a red cloth and sword, cows are for eating, don't play with your food!
As a side note, I've never heard of someone walking down the street, minding their own business, and having a cow charge them out of nowhere.
BlockedNasalPassages 2 years ago
you watch to much movies ;) so do I :D
bull fighting was for power demonstration. Breaking bricks or ice is for testing your power. 100 man kumite is for testing your physical and mental skills ;) or 300 man in 3 days, that's hard core ;D
Shoxus 2 years ago 3
This is such a ridiculous comment, I don't know where to start.
Freddy3740 2 years ago
You mug, that guy who was fighting with a cow was Mas Oyama, the founder of kyokushin karate. He wast doing that to improve his strenght and power!
Non of the fighters have to do that!!
kjr2296 2 years ago
george st pierre. UFC FIGHTER kyokushin and bjj black belt
KarolKyokushin 2 years ago
and boxer and muay thai fighter and wrestler ;]
Buli0n 2 years ago
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Telemoveis 2 years ago
hahaha all the asians are bringing the hurt
alkim345 2 years ago
Ive seen these things before, pretty hard stuff. Im BJJ guy but I have nothing but respect for this style of Karate. Muay Thai too and yes shotokan. Everyone has their preference and believes their doing the most effective method. I've seen powerful people come from nearly every style out there. Some people are right that when you train with karate you defend against karate, still it translates well (my friend like taken me). I love discussing with different styles, but why get angry n dish?
warriorfire8103 2 years ago 2
Just because somone does one diciplin like kyokushin, does not mean that is all they know!
i myself adjust to the situation! i use my weapons in defence according to the other fighters attacks!
just because i do kyokushin! doesnt mean thats what i am limited to.. because if you try to grapple me, i will not allow it! i will use my initiative and fuck you up! its simple az that!!
its not the style you train! its how you think and fight that counts!!! stupid people...think about it!
kiwikarateguy 2 years ago 2
That is the Smartest thing iv heard all month. You're 100% right.
I do shotokan karate, more traditional style, and everyone says its not effective because of the point sparring system, this does not mean i cant adapt it to real life ! i was attacked on the street by a man much stronger than me, with technique he was down. Its not the style its how you use it !
Oss
AdnanCucak 2 years ago
Serious lack of defense.
No surprise then that this isn't used in the ufc.
riopieboy 2 years ago
You know mnothing about matrial arts... Every fighter gets used to the rules of every federation. Many of Kyokushin fighters dont have problem to fight in the K-1 or Ufc . Its just bout the rules in the Federation.
Lorak156 2 years ago
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kiwikarateguy 2 years ago
actually! alot of the best ufc fighters do kyokushin karate
kiwikarateguy 2 years ago
which ones? GSP and?
Buli0n 2 years ago
Schilt, Rutten, Machida, St Pierre and even Petruzelli are karateka who crossed over to MMA.
Not all are oure Kyokushin though they studied Ashihara, Seidokaikan, Enshin, Shidokan and other "kyokushin style" karate.
I'm sure there are many others, plenty in K-1 as well.
electrochik888 2 years ago
Schilt = Ashihara + Daido Juku(face punches)
Rutten = firstly he was a kickboxer and submission wrestler. He's not kyokushin karateka of IKO1 ;]
St Pierre is the best but you have to admit, when he was cleary kyokushin striker he was gettin his ass kicked and
Petruzelli, he's Shito-ryu karateka, it's not "kyokushin style" karate and they have face punches.
Buli0n 2 years ago
lol dickhead what does georges st peirre do then?
stichbear 2 years ago
in accordance to what riopieboy said
stichbear 2 years ago
george st pierre? one of the best pound for pound?
leave your ignorant comments to yourself
Gza36Chambers 2 years ago
@riopieboy You must be trolling. there are many MMA fighters who use Kyokushin technique GSP, Bas Rutten, Gerard Gordeau, Katsinori Kikuno, Andrews Nakahara etc. Glaube Feitosa was in Shogun's camp helping him train for his last Machida fight. Kyokushin is solid, useful stuff.
aldridge1 10 months ago
I practice Shotokan but I like Kyokushinkai very much! Onegai Shimasu! :)
Marcpisa 2 years ago
jin of tekken the style is karate kyokushin and ryu of street fighter.
shant690 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
In all of the footage I haven't seen a single useful defensive move. Makes me wonder.
It's just alternating exchange of attacks until somebody hits a vital spot. Correct me if I'm wrong but besides the single presentations at the beginning this didn't impress me at all.
odkKoma 2 years ago
Well, I'm no expert, but my understanding of Oyama is that he wasn't a very defensive sort of person... therefor, his karate would probably NOT feature a whole lot in the way of defense...
But I suppose it's just conjecture on my part.
soulcutterx13 2 years ago
fcuk man in street fight you make an opponent a fcking mavashi geri and his fcuked :D
kakskakskolm 2 years ago 2
Yeah, this is good stuff. I trained Shitoryu karate for 6 years, but I got sick of all those katas and weak-ass semi/no-contact. It just didn`t get any realistic, and the truth is,you can be a black-belt in any karate-style (except Kyokushin) and think you`re a tough-guy, but if you`d ever get involved in a REAL fight, you might (to your astonishment) get your ass kicked bad,cause you`ve never had any real contact-training. If I ever get into martial arts again,I`m going for jiu-jitsu though.
NormaJe4n 2 years ago
any martial art is good u must respect that
manwitgun55 2 years ago
Just one thing to remember about jiu jitsu is you can only fight one opponent at a time if you go to the ground. Your best chance of survival in the street is a stand up style like Kyokushin or Muay Thai because it gives you more options to attack, move and escape. What if your street opponent/attacker has other people with him to help out? You can only grapple one at a time. The ground is the worst place to be in a street fight regardless of training.
dokokai 2 years ago 3
actually its best the slam people on the ground in a street fight, its faster and its just plain out better, any way, BJJ was developed for street fighting in Rio, unlike Kyokushin, TKD, Muay Thai (I train in MT so not slamming it) that were developed in Rings, Dojo's (Kyokushin) or by a crazy nationalist regime TKD, BJJ works on the street, it works in the ring, its generally good
gords12345 2 years ago
You are pretty young & I'm not trying to insult you but you don't really have a lot of experience or knowledge just yet. Kyokushin was not developed in or for the ring. It grew into that after the 1st few tourneys created to spread the style throughout the world. Many younger generation Instructors & Dojos have forgotten or don't teach the street defense aspect of Kyokushin. They focus too much on tournament training unfortunately.
dokokai 2 years ago
I started Kyokushin in '82 when I was 12 yrs old & am now a 3rd Dan with 27 yrs experience. I was fortunate to learn the older style of Kyokushin that focused on brutal street defense techniques. Whether you slam your attacker to the ground or take him out with a stand up technique, the goal is to neutralize the attack & incapacitate your attacker(s) as quickly as possible & get out of the situation immediately. There are many ways to do that, but none are solely the best.
dokokai 2 years ago
Excuse me. One correction and apology I owe you from one of my replies to you is that you did say Kyokushin was developed in the Dojo not the ring. However, there is no relevance as to where it was developed regarding it's street effectiveness. It has already been tested & proven effective.
dokokai 2 years ago
but it still lacks proper face punching technique, punching, not to say its bad, TKD is bad... It just lacks many elements, also throwing some one head first into pavement (a-la judo) is faster then punching them in the gut and then kicking them In the head. So I guess judo is the real winner here
gords12345 2 years ago
Well there are several points for you to understand and do hear what you are saying. But what you see in vids on youtube & such is just a small portion of the Kyokushin style. You are seeing tournaments, with rules & limitations so you will never see all that Kyokushin teaches & trains unless you visit & train in a good Dojo yourself. Mas Oyama (Kyokushin Founder) was a Judoka as well & incorporated Judo throws/takedowns in the training. Also Aiki Jujitsu which is similar to Aikido joint locks.
dokokai 2 years ago
The proper face punching is included in a good Kyokushin Dojos training also. As I said earlier too many newer Dojos are tournament focused and you see the hands down since they know there is no face punching. However this is lazy & dangerous because high kicks are allowed & when you see the fighters with hands down you also see high kick knockouts. One other thing to remember is in big tournaments the fighters who advance have several matches a day over 2 days & are already tired & beat up.
dokokai 2 years ago
Big tournaments with many competitors, especially the World Tournament, is a test of endurance, will & fighting spirit as much as it is a test of skill. These are full power punches & kicks with no protective equipment except a cup & an optional mouthpiece. It takes a huge toll on the body from the punishment though some shots don't look like much. Search for clips that have the actual tournament sound & not some music track over it. You will hear the hard shots clearly.
dokokai 2 years ago
Its easy to punch the head, just raise your hand 2". Also not the style just the practioner...
DistantSoul13 2 years ago
I honestly have to give it to Kyokushin practitioners, they're tough. Some of those kicks and punches in the vid are brutal looking.
heresjonny666 2 years ago
Anyone think it's a good idea to put a boxer up against someone like this?
Frank Dux verified records:
Most consecutive knockouts in a single tournament - 56
Fastest knockout - 3.2 seconds
Fastest punch with knockout - 0.12 seconds
Fastest kick with knockout: 72mph
A boxer would UNDOUBTEDLY LOSE.
BatsBasilica 2 years ago
All of Frank Dux records are questionable and unverified. Skilled boxers are quite dangerous and should be respected. There's a reason many skilled Martial Artists....including Kyokushin Karateka... cross train with boxing.
dokokai 2 years ago 2
Because they don't know how to punch people in the face?
gords12345 2 years ago
Yes Kyokushin fighters do know how to face punch but it's good to cross train anyway.
dokokai 2 years ago
What a load of bullsh|t. Only a d|ckhead thinks you need to train in full-contact in order to attain effective self-defense. You don't have to get the sh|t kicked out of you while sparring in order to know how to defend yourself. This style is for aggro ass-holes.
BatsBasilica 2 years ago
You don't 'need' to train full contact,but it is one of many effective training methods out there if you don't like it then fine don't do it,ive done Kyokushinkai for a long time in various different country and have encountered very few "aggro ass-holes" .
iroscoe 2 years ago
No, you`re wrong. I trained Shito-ryu for 6 years,and it never gives you a real feel for what a REALISTIC street-fight is. The thing is: When training karate,you`re sparring against other karate-practitioners, so you`re defending yourself against karate ATTACKS. Straight, long punches, front and side kickes, an occasional attempted throw, etc. It`s not realistic. In a real streetfight, it`s all pushing, swinging fists, wrestling and grappling, not fukking kiiaii-here comes the punch and sidekick
NormaJe4n 2 years ago
yeah your training against karate fighters, but who in the world on the street would have the skill and power to be able to grapple a kyokushin practicioner. unless mma trained. these men would put you down before you could even react. and if you did hit them, its quite obvious your gonna do no damage.
mazxlz 2 years ago 3
Thats what I said, dude. Read the whole discussion. I was talking about all the NON-contact karate forms, like shito-ryu and so forth. Not kyokushin: They train for real contact. Of all the karate forms, its the most realistic.
NormaJe4n 2 years ago
Well, it all depends on who is teaching the style. I personally have trained many styles over the years. For instance, one Shotokan instructer of mine NEVER wanted to train realistic sparring, and barely sparred at all. Another Shotokan instructor stressed that we MUST train for full-contact opponents, which I strongly agree with. All Karate styles were originally meant to maim or kill in defence or on the battlefield...it just depends on who is teaching them in this generation.
LoganBruneau 2 years ago
kyokushin is almost as realistic as semi contact karate forms. theres no head punchs, and thats a big deal. in non contact there is at least practice punchs to the head.
brayden12345 2 years ago
I agree 100% ive trained in kyokushin before but now believe the best fighting style for the street without a doubt is muay thai. The strikes are second to none and the throwing and clinching techniques are what you could actually use on the street. Still there are some elements of kyokushin that are good and the conditioning in REAL kyokushin dojus is also solid. I just wish i knew more about muay thai when i was younger i wouldnt have spent all those years shouting kias in the doju.
hardkicka 2 years ago
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hardkicka 2 years ago
what was the name of the music they have removed? Can u write me on private?
grzyb12 2 years ago
Youtube why do you remove music ????!!!! :(
mikereactiv 2 years ago
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badarbence 2 years ago
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badarbence 2 years ago
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arufa2 2 years ago
OMG THE MUSIC WAS SO GOOD!!! damn
arufa2 2 years ago
FUCK WMG!!
kelocuul 2 years ago 2
its stupid. the judo kick her ass
uv313 3 years ago
looks like it hurts
jcfegz 3 years ago
yes it si!!
tysonrobi 3 years ago
THIS IS KYOKUSHIN = THIS IS PWNAGE
Pninja885 3 years ago
I started doing Xing-Yi Quan, then did taekwondo for over 8 years. I want to start learning kyokushin. It looks very effective and beautiful at the same time. I love the direct, practical techniques of kyokushin. Also the kata's look very exciting to learn.
seekerjet 3 years ago
kyokushin looks really useful in a street fight
MT12XD 3 years ago 2
The creation of Kyokushin was based on Mas Oyamas phylosophy of Budo, the reason we dont punch to the head is because it would be... well.. fatal, with the propper amount of training we are taught that if we can avoid hitting to the head and face, naturally, we go against our limitations and we can do it very well.
Jorname 3 years ago
That's why I highly respect fighters like George St. Pierre and Lyoto Machida. They adapt their Karate to techniques in MMA. Considering they know where to strike someone, even at an MMA fighter, with one forceful lethal blow. They have a lot of self control in that sport. BJ Penn yelling that he would be willing to kill another MMA Fighter. GSP schooled him back to basics in their last fight.
falconx1 3 years ago
George St. Pierre from UFC trains HIGHLY...HIGHLY...in Kyokushin Karate, so does Lyoto Michida, and both are recent CHAMPIONS of MMA sport. That tells you that gay grappling is not all that!
Grappling = touching men in ways a gay man would! LOL!
falconx1 3 years ago 2
say that to a grapplers face you'll be crippled for life
you seem to forget michida are top level grapplers
phillyforever 3 years ago
GSP and Machida are both black belts in BJJ. To be successful you have to crosstrain.
XJ3B 3 years ago 4
BJJ is good im MMA to know but not on the street if you try to do BJJ on the street you will find out you will get knockout out. when you are trying to submit someone on the ground on the street he friend or someone will give you one.
marvinjfk 3 years ago 2
fuck mmgay
saweet999 3 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
Dude, you know nothing about real fight...Most street fight ends with fighting in clinch, sometimes on the ground.
the only gay is dude like you who think that real fight is only punching and kicking. it's more natural for human to fight with grappling than with strikes.
And remember that none of MA is created for fight with many enemies. They will kick your ass if they would want to do it. And you should know that there were some grappling techniques in kyokushin long time ago....
Gollob666 3 years ago
HAHA...you obviously haven't been around the world that much. I've lived in the Philippines where my house was close to areas that are dangerous. I've been cut, slammed, stabbed (3x), and broken my leg more than you slept with a chic. The last thing you would want in a "REAL FIGHT" is clinch with someone who you don't know would have a knife hidden in his pockets. Or worse, a friend of his is watching you fight with him, and makes a move at you when your hugging him down to the ground. DEAD!
falconx1 3 years ago
You are funnyXD
So if guy has a knife you will defeat him with kicks form distance?Idiot...It works only in movie.And moreover i didnt say that you ahve to fight in the ground, but clinch is good.I know a judo guy who defeated 2 attackers. He slammed one, then he did the same thing with the other one. I someone wants to kill you kill you,he will do it. I dont care about "negative comment" it only proves that most ppl dont what to say so they give a negative,beacuse it's easier for such gays:)
Gollob666 2 years ago
My comment below was for falconX. Uv313, short talk but you know the truth at least.
Gollob666 2 years ago
WOW...the truth is, the closer you are to any attacker, armed or not, the higher you put yourself at risk. I've trained in several MMA styles and have trained 3+years in BJJ. I've seen weaknesses in each disc. and studied it to overcome them. The truth is my friend, clinching someone in a "REAL STREET FIGHT" can cause you, a huge as whoopin', or worse, your life. Depending also on the mass of your opponent, or if he's in an armed situation.
falconx1 2 years ago
You may not want to use techniques like kicking, cause you see them in the movies, but I'd rather take my chances from a distance than clinch someone upclose who has a weapon.
PEACE!
falconx1 2 years ago
Ok if i would be attacked with someone using weapon i would:
1 try to ran away
2if attacker would want to take my money, phone i could:
give it to him, just to save my life
OR take my own weapon but i would do it only in -life-or-death situation.
It'sgood you trained BJJ. At least you know something about, not like fags who call it gay.I hope you know that clinch lets you to control bigger guys in many ways:) And the most mportant thing - you never know how the fight may look.
PEACE!
Gollob666 2 years ago
yeah some jackass at my school thought it was gay and tried to beat me up but i KO'd him by rear naked choke. bjj kicks ass
xXxwhitepanther831 2 years ago
are they not allowed to strike their opponents head?? i don't see why they wouldn't
Himemiya613 3 years ago
Trying to cut down on the blood in tournaments.
macaddict1980 3 years ago
They don't allow head strikes because they want to keep the matches bareknuckle. Seems pretty hardcore until you look at some of the matches where guys will just stand in front of each other and eat half-power body shots for minutes on end. Kyokushin fighters are tough, but they develop some really bad defensive habits from not having to worry about guarding their faces and heads. That's why you see so many headkick knockouts in Kyokushin--nobody is ever ready for them.
TsunamiBomb 3 years ago 2
love the kicks. wich art has most kicks init? any one know ? cheers for info in advance if u do.
NHEFF09 3 years ago
teakwondo,only kicks
nldmc 3 years ago
aright cheers for the info, peace.
NHEFF09 3 years ago
its not only kicks. But yes 80-85% of TKD is kicking
pmaughmer 3 years ago
tkd is not as good as kyokushin.
marvinjfk 3 years ago 2
It's pointless to compare different martial arts to each other and judge them negatively. Taekwondo and karate are both very complete. Taekwondo is derived from Hapkido and has many techniques including grappling, punching and very effective fighting. I suppose you're referring to the demo's of tkd that you see with all the acrobatics, but that is not traditional tkd. Check out the "northern itf taekwondo" videos. They're very similar to kyokushin. Karate and tkd are both very complete and good.
seekerjet 3 years ago
Yeah ive see it before totally different they use in the olympics but i'll stick to kyokushin
marvinjfk 3 years ago
The thing is, taekwondo is known for what ppl see at the Olympics or acrobatic demos. Grandmasters (7th/8th Dan) don't fight like that. They fight more straightforward, quick and with a proper defense, like kyokushin. It's just that the young ppl at competitions make it look as if tkd has no defense and is all sloppy kicking.
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Oz117 3 years ago
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AznTOFU 3 years ago
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H00ligan93 3 years ago
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ideteminakurac 3 years ago
I did this and got to Brown Belt
all I got to say is once you get doing this its hard to stop but it's very painful getting hit and the training is brutal
Kickboxer067 3 years ago
Anyone know what Fed the tournaments at aprox 2:30 was with? Hard to see a Kyukushin tourney with no head shots.
nytmaretyme 3 years ago
As one of the fighters is Ewerton Texeira im assuming its Matsui's IKO(1),im not sure what you mean by "no head shots" though .
iroscoe 3 years ago
Simply that there seem to be no strikes to the head 9though kicks seem to be ok.) It always disturbs me to see chest level gaurds that dont protect the head. I'm 6'4", heads are what I live for.
nytmaretyme 3 years ago
Heads would still be what you lived for you would just have to knee rather than punch to the head,also the title of this film is a bit misleading the tournament discipline is not the be all and all of Kyokushinkai .
iroscoe 3 years ago
you realize mas oyama killed 53 bulls with his bare hands right. you realize you're a total f*cking moron right.
cyvamp 3 years ago
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six months of muay thai or boxing with the right coach and a little lady can handle these guys with no problem
serbia604 3 years ago
shut the hell up if you think that then you dont know shit about kyokushin kyokushin is very powerful practitioners have beatin some major martial arts
iamdanigga 3 years ago
u al si pametan!
brenxxx 3 years ago
lol @ serbia604... mas oyama defeated 270 fighters and knocked them in less than 3 minutes the fuck out. kyokushin is not that fancy shmancy dancing you see in hollywood movies. this is serious buisness.
wasndasfuernscheiss 3 years ago
obviusly, if you ko 270 "fighters" out in less then 3 sec, you're full of bullshit, Tyson couldn't have done that xD
It's the most fullcontact of Karate sport styles, that it is, but still have problems when facing styles who are more fullcontact then themselvs, like muay thai og san da, mma, ect ect
TenkennoGunshin 3 years ago
Indeed it's a full contact sport, I started a month ago and the training is pretty intense. Also, I might add, that you get more power from a kick then a punch, it's pretty distinguishing.
pencitypunk 3 years ago
Yes, but also, the punch is faster, and more accuret, hence the prefered KO tool in fullcontact matches like muay thai and k-1 and ufc is the hands, as the leg is big and powerfull and has a long reach, but less accuret and slower(easier to see it coming and block or dodge)wheras the punch is much easier put into combinations(which again gives more clean hits), so both weapons have it's ups and downs^^
TenkennoGunshin 3 years ago 2
yes indeed, good point, both are true ^^
pencitypunk 3 years ago
I was explaining wrong. He knocked the most of them out in less than 3 MINUTES . And not all at once. Dont believe me? Google for Oyama. And why should be muay thai or else be a problem? See Glaube Feitosa who is also using kyokushin style? He is facing every technique on this planet and he still seems to be very tough to defeat. :P
wasndasfuernscheiss 3 years ago
3 min is possible, HUGE difrence between 3 sec and 3 min... It's especialy possible if hey're all Karatekas who are world famous for having a good guard and being able to take a hit to the head...(sarcasm^_^)
Muay Thai and other more fullcontact styles are sports inwhich you incorporate boxing and other stuff aswell, I've fought Kyokushin guys with 6-8 years omre of experience and up to 10-15kg weight on me, and I have to say, Kyokushin karatekas are some of the most hardent guys in the world
TenkennoGunshin 3 years ago 2
to the BODY that is, most can't handle boxing at all, caus the style dosn't really expose the to it, and boxing is the NR 1 knock out tool in all competetiv fighting, muay thai has elbows, knees, all that shit, has nothing to do with it as the majority of KOs still come from a knock out punch to the head..
TenkennoGunshin 3 years ago
It is really weird though. Pure logic would say that if they can knock out someone with a puch to body shouldn't it be quite easy when punching to head and knock a guy out? even when using boxing gloves. I have watched a few of ewerton teixeiras fights in K-1 and it really seems like he has to learn to box.
jarmo58 3 years ago
hehe, the head is easier to defend, and, it's two difrent ways of being knocked out, a body shot KO is pure pain, you can't fight caus you liver gets hit and you lose control, ect ect, a real knock out to the head shuts the brain off, I find it easier to win by body shot(I love to go to the body) then the head, there's an old saying in boxing; "if you kill the body, the head will follow" =P
as for K-1, watch K-1 MAX, not the heavyweights, the HW divsion can't fight
TenkennoGunshin 3 years ago
But yes, it's fucking esy to knock out people who arn't used to boxing, if you havn't been punched in the head on a regular basis, you're not used to it, and then it's nighty night
TenkennoGunshin 3 years ago
"But yes, it's fucking esy to knock out people who arn't used to boxing, if you havn't been punched in the head on a regular basis, you're not used to it, and then it's nighty night"
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Is that your expert opinion? I've takes a couple seriously hard hits to the head before and getting hit in the head AT ALL is extremely rare for me. EXTREMELY rare. The hits barely phased me, and I'm by no means a big guy. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
BatsBasilica 2 years ago
LOL, try stepping into a fullcontact ring with boxing (or MT or somethin' like that) THEN come back and stat your opinons about things you obviusly don't know shit about, untill you have, go do kata's or something
TenkennoGunshin 2 years ago
BOXING?!!! Are you serious?!!! I would LOVE to see ANY pro boxer go up against someone even ALMOST as good as Frank Dux. He'd never know what hit him.
BatsBasilica 2 years ago
In a match between the average 2-year Shotokan martial artist (Shotokan is not full-contact), and the average boxer of two years, the boxer would lose almost every time.
BatsBasilica 2 years ago
first of, I'd bet on the boxer, secondly, it would depend on te rules. cause boxers only have one weapon, why not say Shotokanka vs Nak muay (thaiboxer), both with 2 years, I can basicly garantiee the nakmuay winning (of course depending on the rules)
TenkennoGunshin 2 years ago
I left home when I was 15 yrs old. I had 10yrs living away from home. Those were good times and also bad times. I came across Kyokushin after spending weeks watching differents styles' training session. Kyokushin stole my heart the moment I watch the training. I trained for 6 yrs before I left for another country/job. Those 6 yrs helped me so much. Kyokushin was my life, my family ... I wish I never stopped. now its 15yrs later and I still think about it. OSU!
Emparrii 3 years ago 2