Takgeyon and TKD have almost no similarities. I studied Takgeyon for two years in a rural school in Southeast Korea. Takgeyon much more resembles old school kung fu technique whereas TKD is totally Karate in nature.
As you know what is today North & South Korea was the province of Dai Nippon(Japan) called Chosen (1910CE-1945CE). The Japanese would replace and outlaw most of the Korean native Martial Arts. How many Taekkyon schools were lefted after 1945? And who did Gen. Hi train with to come up with Tae Kwon Do in the 1950s if it is not mostly based on the Ryukyu/Okinawan Te/Karate? Thank you for your time. Osu
@1banryukyu I am not quite sure if you are affirming what I said or challenging me in some way. Yes Japan did outlaw most Korean martial arts. I have trained in Tae Known Do, Takgeyon, Xingyiquan Kung fu, and I am a certified Intructor in Muay Thai as well as 1'st Dan in Hapkido. I was simply making the observation that Takgeyon resembles old school kung fu more than it does Karate which is the main ifluence of TKD.
I am sorry if you misunderstood me. I was in no way challenging you just wanted to know how many Taekkyon schools were left after 1945 and who Gen. Hi trained with to come up with the modern day Korean Art of Tae Kwon Do. Osu
@1banryukyu There was only ONE taekkyon master left and ONE school after 1945 and that was Master Song Duk Ki (rip) who was the only reconigzed master of Taekkyon and was registered as a national intangible asset number 76. Genernal Choi was said to have studied shotokan in Japan during the war and received a second dan, also dispite many sites claiming he studied with funikoshi, Master Cho never really told anyone who he trained with in japan for some reason.
@taihuu25go yeah but you have to realize that the forms and what not of tkd are from karate simply because all koraen martial arts were banned during japanese occupation. There are many moves that are used in taekkyon and taekwondo that are visibly not seen in traditional karate. In traditional karate, showing your back was strictly forbidden, thus spinning kicks, back kicks, backfists, etc were most likely either adopted or adapted from another martial art, whether chinese or korean.
@kero7642 Really, then why is there so much similarity between Taekwondo and taekkyon?
Why didnt all these taekkyon peeps call Gen Choi out for being a fraud when he was alive, and not wait till he was dead. I met Gen Choi, and he was a very honourable man, peeps that accuse hin of being a fraud are just projecting their own characters on him. BTW, when we tkd people talk about our origins we are simply stating historical fact, tkd is the biggest martial art in the world. How big is taekkyon?
@taihuu25go It's so useless, that it was banned under the Japanese military occupation because it had been used to kill Japanese soldiers. That is a fact, btw, and no amount of historical revisionism will change that.
The reason most korean soldiers learned karate is that most persons did not know taekkyon, it was in decline, even before the japanese military ban. That;s why Gen Choi invented taekwondo. He wanted a superior korean art, and he added karate hand techniques to new improved kicks.
@taihuu25go What useless movement, did we add? How could we have added useless movement to your art when we don't control your art? What you mean is the senior persons in your karate stole Taekwondo techniques, just like they stole your roundhouse kick from korean taekkyon, early in the history of karate.
Before Funakoshi's son was stationed in korea during his military service, karate did not have a roundhouse kick. BTW, Gen Choi, stated, that, Tkd roots, are, taekkyon AND shotokhan!
@taihuu25go When did ITF admit that karate is the base of tkd.
Do you mean when Gen Choi states that he used shotokhan karate techniques as the basis for tkd hand techniques, and used taekkyon kicks as the basis for tkd kicks?
So what! Anyone can see the relationships, between tkd and both those arts, even now. Anyone can also see that there are significant differences as well. Example karate has no sine wave movement, taekkyon movements are similar to sine wave. etc
@mangodealer They were adapted from tkd, those changes in karate, occurred, in the '50's, onward.
They occurred because karate ppl found tkd techniques worked better than their own, so they adopted them. Now every martial art, korean, or otherwise, adopts techniques, that they were saying were unreliable, even up till the 90's. I started training in 1990 and I remember karateka from that era, karate, has changed a lot since then. It's become more like tkd, and in some cases, also like muay thai
@taihuu25go No sir, the WTF, says their art is taekkyon, which it is not, it's not even taekwondo, it's modified karate. The ITF says, the art, of the ITF, invented by General Choi, Taekwondo, has roots in both Teakwondo, and Shotokhan karate, about 65% of the hand techniques are originally from Shotokhan karate, even though they are performed differently by ITF practitioners, for example, forearm and knifehand guarding blocks, etc.
We in the ITF, do not claim to practise a 2500 yr old art
@taihuu25go Who is the ITA? Why are they authorities? Why is their word more trustworthy than Gen Choi's.
Also why does karate, especially classical karate bear little or no resemblance to tkd. Twin leg kicks, two direction kick, consecutive kicks, destruction ( breaking) is not an official part of classical karate, it's strictly for demonstration, it is an integral part of tkd. Explain all those differences, if tkd is just a minor karate offshoot, pls
If you care to meet and train with a real Taekkyon master, there is one coming to North America in Aug. 2011 look for the 2011 super summer seminar event at certainvictory. A real one of a kind event for martial artists
How effective is Taekkyon? It seems like the internal version of TKD.
AFAIK TKD came from 3 styles: Taekykyon,Hapkido and Karate with Jiu Jitsu being the founder of Hapkido,Kung Fu and Ju Jitsu founding Karate,and Kung Fu founding Taekkyon?
It all depends who you fight with as for all martial arts.
This said, Taekkyon is about making the opponent fall or kicking him in the head without injury to win the game
Taekkyon also includes techniques called "yetpop" which are meant to hurt/injure someone but they are (traditionally) not allowed in Taekkyon games/competitions and are normally taught to advanced students only!
@6arcsn1sky Actually he did, and the common origin is evident to anyone that practices ITF taekwondo and has seen taekkyon. I think that it is a testament to his achievments, namely inventing taekwondo, reviving korean martial arts, creating the ITF, etc, ; and his fine character, that even years after his death, some people still find it necessary to slander him.
@caribbeanpriceclub That's what you think, but later in life he admits that taekwondo bears no link to taekkyeon. The idea of the links were either Master Choi or an instructor to further promote taekwondo.
@6arcsn1sky When did he admit this later in life? Please direct me to a link , or some documentation showing this.
I'd like to see it, because even to my lazy eyes, the common heritage of the two arts are obvious.
BTW, why would we need taekkyon to promote tkd, when we are bigger now, and had more support and better organization, and leadership, even at our earliest stages? Let me tell you, some tkd ppl, dont even know teakkyon still exists. TKD needs taekkyon for promotion; since when?
@caribbeanpriceclub Not to be rude, but can you just search on your own? I read the article from a martial arts magazine a few months back, and I'm still trying to remember the name. Oh, and the reason these instructors would promote that taekkyeon came from taekwondo is to probably romanticize the history in order to pull in members since I view them as con-man.
After seeing this I'm starting to see how different and unique Taekkyon and Tae Kwon Do is. There are stark differences but you can definitely see what attributes Tae Kwon Do takes from Taekkyon ;)
Older, kwan-based Tae Kwon Do perhaps, and especially ITF Tae Kwon Do. Early TKD was more karate influenced, and Gen. Choi tried to convince Oyama to join Tae Kwon Do. Modern Tae Kwon Do is much more taekkyon influenced, and looks nothing like Oyama karate.
It's true that, Gen Choi tried to get Oyama to join him. Mas Oyama agreed to change his techniques to TKd techniques. That deal obviously fell through. It's probably good that it did. The personalities of Gen. Choi and Mas Oyama were too different. I'm not sure that the ITF would have benefited from having Mas Oyama as a senior master.
No he did not. He claimed to have, but other instructors called him on it and he admitted he did not. Highest he ever got was 2nd Dan in Shotokan. ITF is actually very Shotokan-influenced.
No, Oyama did not learn Taekkyon either. He may have learned some Chinese art as a young man, but moved to Japan during the Occupation and spent the rest of his career studying Japanese karate. He actually become estranged from Korea and became a Japanese citizen in 1964.
@TraditionalTKD Look at kaiten geri, in fact traditional Okinawa Te and its derivates before IIWW never had anything like back, crescent, spinning or roundhouse kicks, because that techniques comes from Korean arts. In fact this is proven by Seiji Nakamura inverted roundhouse video "real karate kick" showing a TAEKWONDO Bituro Chagui, a trademark kick for Taekkyun.
@bassuan Correct. Granted, there's a lot of give and take between TKD and karate, given the proximity of the two nations. But anytime you see a karate student doing axe kick, double kicks etc. there's a good chance he learned it from the Korean arts. Those kicks are not indigenous to Japan or karate. Koreans were doing them before the Japanese did.
@TraditionalTKD You are right I've not seen double kicks in traditional Karate but I have seen it in some styles of Gongfu. The Japanese karate is kind of stiff and has stright kicks side kicks long kicks but not inverted kicks and also a lot of punches.
@TraditionalTKD When did he admit this? Other people who's arts are very karate like, have said this?! Boy ,their opinions, really matter. Also how many 2nd dans did you have in karate in the '40's? 2nd dan then was different from 2nd dan now. ITF is shotokhan influenced in some hand techniques. I'm still waiting to see shotokhan 2 direction and three direction kick, flying high kick, 360, 540, kicking techniques, flying triple kicking, not to mention standing triple kicking, tumbling kicks,..
LISTEN UP! some of the translation in this video is extremely wrong. Too many for me to go retranslating the whole thing, but just know that a lot of the subtext is wrong.
So beautiful and powerfully! I love the dance character in it with all its different aspects and also the philosophy behind this beautiful martial art!!! Also the unfiroms are very nice!
I wish i could learn it!!! Outstanding jumps as well!
It truly is a beautiful art to watch I wish I could train in that art so badly, but just to be there to see it in person at the very least would be enough for me.
Takgeyon and TKD have almost no similarities. I studied Takgeyon for two years in a rural school in Southeast Korea. Takgeyon much more resembles old school kung fu technique whereas TKD is totally Karate in nature.
TakgeyonBlackbelt 7 months ago 8
@TakgeyonBlackbelt Sir
As you know what is today North & South Korea was the province of Dai Nippon(Japan) called Chosen (1910CE-1945CE). The Japanese would replace and outlaw most of the Korean native Martial Arts. How many Taekkyon schools were lefted after 1945? And who did Gen. Hi train with to come up with Tae Kwon Do in the 1950s if it is not mostly based on the Ryukyu/Okinawan Te/Karate? Thank you for your time. Osu
1banryukyu 5 months ago
@1banryukyu I am not quite sure if you are affirming what I said or challenging me in some way. Yes Japan did outlaw most Korean martial arts. I have trained in Tae Known Do, Takgeyon, Xingyiquan Kung fu, and I am a certified Intructor in Muay Thai as well as 1'st Dan in Hapkido. I was simply making the observation that Takgeyon resembles old school kung fu more than it does Karate which is the main ifluence of TKD.
TakgeyonBlackbelt 5 months ago
@TakgeyonBlackbelt Sir
I am sorry if you misunderstood me. I was in no way challenging you just wanted to know how many Taekkyon schools were left after 1945 and who Gen. Hi trained with to come up with the modern day Korean Art of Tae Kwon Do. Osu
1banryukyu 5 months ago
@1banryukyu There was only ONE taekkyon master left and ONE school after 1945 and that was Master Song Duk Ki (rip) who was the only reconigzed master of Taekkyon and was registered as a national intangible asset number 76. Genernal Choi was said to have studied shotokan in Japan during the war and received a second dan, also dispite many sites claiming he studied with funikoshi, Master Cho never really told anyone who he trained with in japan for some reason.
VietzRus 2 months ago
@VietzRus Sir
Thank you for the info. Do you know of any good books that have more info on this topic. Thank you for your time. Osu
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universetechnique 1 year ago
The Korean who learned taekwondo said.
"Taekkyon was only play of the children me in a childhood"
The Korean Olympic Committee said once.
"The taekwondo is the tradition martial arts that developed from takkyon"
However, the ITA admits that taekwondo is copying of Karate.
taihuu25go 1 year ago
@taihuu25go yeah but you have to realize that the forms and what not of tkd are from karate simply because all koraen martial arts were banned during japanese occupation. There are many moves that are used in taekkyon and taekwondo that are visibly not seen in traditional karate. In traditional karate, showing your back was strictly forbidden, thus spinning kicks, back kicks, backfists, etc were most likely either adopted or adapted from another martial art, whether chinese or korean.
mangodealer 1 year ago
There is not the fact that Japan prohibited Taekkyon.
In Korean historical materials, the Korean martial arts are only bows.
watch?v=hG6tqGGZW8Y
watch?v=_Xz_6MUYHcM
The Korean who learned taekwondo said.
"taekkyon is play of the children".
taihuu25go 1 year ago
@taihuu25go choi hong hee never learned taekkyon. only taekwondo wants to relate its self to taekkyon. taekkyon rejects them
kero7642 10 months ago 13
@kero7642 Really, then why is there so much similarity between Taekwondo and taekkyon?
Why didnt all these taekkyon peeps call Gen Choi out for being a fraud when he was alive, and not wait till he was dead. I met Gen Choi, and he was a very honourable man, peeps that accuse hin of being a fraud are just projecting their own characters on him. BTW, when we tkd people talk about our origins we are simply stating historical fact, tkd is the biggest martial art in the world. How big is taekkyon?
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@taihuu25go It's lethal play, that allowed a korean man to kill a japanese soldier during Japan's occupation of Korea, that's why it was banned.
Also, since you think it's so harmless, spar with a good taekkyon man.
It's not harmless, those kicks hurt!
But I suppose, they would be child's play to you.
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@caribbeanpriceclub
It is against a fact.
Taekkyon is play of the children.
Several years ago.
The opinion of Korean people in bbs "enjoy korea" of naver was the same, too.
Why does the soldier of the Korean army learn the taekwondo that is a copy of karate if it is martial arts with the power as Taekkyon kills a person?
It is listed in "武芸譜通誌".
"The martial arts in Korea are only bows". 」
taihuu25go 8 months ago
@taihuu25go It's so useless, that it was banned under the Japanese military occupation because it had been used to kill Japanese soldiers. That is a fact, btw, and no amount of historical revisionism will change that.
The reason most korean soldiers learned karate is that most persons did not know taekkyon, it was in decline, even before the japanese military ban. That;s why Gen Choi invented taekwondo. He wanted a superior korean art, and he added karate hand techniques to new improved kicks.
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@mangodealer
It is an American taekwondo master to have pursued the false history of the taekwondo.
ITF and the founder of the taekwondo admit that the base of the taekwondo is Shotokan karate.
It is mentioned in HP of ITF.
And the taekwondo is the thing which added useless movement to Karate.
taihuu25go 1 year ago
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arnoldhwang 11 months ago
@taihuu25go What useless movement, did we add? How could we have added useless movement to your art when we don't control your art? What you mean is the senior persons in your karate stole Taekwondo techniques, just like they stole your roundhouse kick from korean taekkyon, early in the history of karate.
Before Funakoshi's son was stationed in korea during his military service, karate did not have a roundhouse kick. BTW, Gen Choi, stated, that, Tkd roots, are, taekkyon AND shotokhan!
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@taihuu25go When did ITF admit that karate is the base of tkd.
Do you mean when Gen Choi states that he used shotokhan karate techniques as the basis for tkd hand techniques, and used taekkyon kicks as the basis for tkd kicks?
So what! Anyone can see the relationships, between tkd and both those arts, even now. Anyone can also see that there are significant differences as well. Example karate has no sine wave movement, taekkyon movements are similar to sine wave. etc
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@caribbeanpriceclub
崔泓熙 replies it for a Korean journalist. (taekwondo time.) January, 2000 issue).
The Korean military has ever trained only Karate.
One day. The Lee Sungman President to see the demonstration said.
"This is taekkyon"
We were not able to go for him who was a caudillo.
taihuu25go 8 months ago
@caribbeanpriceclub
Four years ago.
ITF accepted the false history of the taekwondo by the investigation with the American taekwondo trainer.
I specified ITF where "the taekwondo was based on shotokan" to their HP.
I specified ITF Japan like that.
Now. Those sites modify the sentence.
Search here.
The pioneer of cultural invasion,
"taekwondo"
(2006/09/17)
taihuu25go 8 months ago
@mangodealer They were adapted from tkd, those changes in karate, occurred, in the '50's, onward.
They occurred because karate ppl found tkd techniques worked better than their own, so they adopted them. Now every martial art, korean, or otherwise, adopts techniques, that they were saying were unreliable, even up till the 90's. I started training in 1990 and I remember karateka from that era, karate, has changed a lot since then. It's become more like tkd, and in some cases, also like muay thai
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@taihuu25go the guy who made karate is like half korean dude
tlsdh0629 10 months ago
@tlsdh0629 The half korean dude was Mas Oyama and he didn't creat karate, he created his own style of karate.
cvteck 10 months ago
@cvteck
However, ITF and WTF and the Korean government publicized the origin of the taekwondo to the world saying that it was Taekkyon.
And, in the Korean government, the taekwondo educated the Korean nation as the origin of karate.
taihuu25go 10 months ago
@taihuu25go No sir, the WTF, says their art is taekkyon, which it is not, it's not even taekwondo, it's modified karate. The ITF says, the art, of the ITF, invented by General Choi, Taekwondo, has roots in both Teakwondo, and Shotokhan karate, about 65% of the hand techniques are originally from Shotokhan karate, even though they are performed differently by ITF practitioners, for example, forearm and knifehand guarding blocks, etc.
We in the ITF, do not claim to practise a 2500 yr old art
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@cvteck
Oyama Masutatu is a pure Korean.
He intended to go back to Korea.
Therefore, in Korea, there are his Korean wife and child.
(he confessed it to a family just before he died)
However, the Korean government did not accept the marriage with the Korean who was resident in Japan and a Korean resident in Korea.
Therefore he was naturalized in Japan.
The Korean government seems to refuse the return home of a Korean criminal announced deportation to by the Japanese court.
taihuu25go 10 months ago
@taihuu25go Who is the ITA? Why are they authorities? Why is their word more trustworthy than Gen Choi's.
Also why does karate, especially classical karate bear little or no resemblance to tkd. Twin leg kicks, two direction kick, consecutive kicks, destruction ( breaking) is not an official part of classical karate, it's strictly for demonstration, it is an integral part of tkd. Explain all those differences, if tkd is just a minor karate offshoot, pls
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
If you care to meet and train with a real Taekkyon master, there is one coming to North America in Aug. 2011 look for the 2011 super summer seminar event at certainvictory. A real one of a kind event for martial artists
blase15 1 year ago
AI KYOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
talitubidude0908 1 year ago
why do koreans like to jump all the time?
25500 1 year ago
@25500 because they can! Can you? ;D
assaprince 1 year ago
@25500 it's not like there hopping a border or anything
GizmoMofo7 1 year ago
@25500 Because we're happy people hahahaha jk.
MLee1692 1 year ago
this is really rare english video
gundrag000 1 year ago
Mi Sabom de Tae Kwon Do, el maestro Ho Kwon Kan, nos solía hablar de este arte marcial y el lo citaba como una fuente del Tae Kwon Do.
negoni8 1 year ago
This is aa awesome martial art.
BandakaKush 1 year ago
How effective is Taekkyon? It seems like the internal version of TKD.
AFAIK TKD came from 3 styles: Taekykyon,Hapkido and Karate with Jiu Jitsu being the founder of Hapkido,Kung Fu and Ju Jitsu founding Karate,and Kung Fu founding Taekkyon?
ronki23 1 year ago
@ronki23
It all depends who you fight with as for all martial arts.
This said, Taekkyon is about making the opponent fall or kicking him in the head without injury to win the game
Taekkyon also includes techniques called "yetpop" which are meant to hurt/injure someone but they are (traditionally) not allowed in Taekkyon games/competitions and are normally taught to advanced students only!
Taekkyon2coree 1 year ago
choi hon hi the founder of taekwond mixed karate with this one taekkyon to create it.
jackendy 1 year ago
@jackendy Choi Hong Hee never knew about taekkyeon.
6arcsn1sky 9 months ago
@6arcsn1sky Actually he did, and the common origin is evident to anyone that practices ITF taekwondo and has seen taekkyon. I think that it is a testament to his achievments, namely inventing taekwondo, reviving korean martial arts, creating the ITF, etc, ; and his fine character, that even years after his death, some people still find it necessary to slander him.
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@caribbeanpriceclub That's what you think, but later in life he admits that taekwondo bears no link to taekkyeon. The idea of the links were either Master Choi or an instructor to further promote taekwondo.
6arcsn1sky 8 months ago
@6arcsn1sky When did he admit this later in life? Please direct me to a link , or some documentation showing this.
I'd like to see it, because even to my lazy eyes, the common heritage of the two arts are obvious.
BTW, why would we need taekkyon to promote tkd, when we are bigger now, and had more support and better organization, and leadership, even at our earliest stages? Let me tell you, some tkd ppl, dont even know teakkyon still exists. TKD needs taekkyon for promotion; since when?
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
@caribbeanpriceclub Not to be rude, but can you just search on your own? I read the article from a martial arts magazine a few months back, and I'm still trying to remember the name. Oh, and the reason these instructors would promote that taekkyeon came from taekwondo is to probably romanticize the history in order to pull in members since I view them as con-man.
6arcsn1sky 8 months ago
i love the principles of this art but i worry il never get to korea to find a teacher :(
juzblazejr 1 year ago
wait some korean friends of mine said it wasnt a marital art and it was a foot game now cuz before ithough it was a martial art im confuseed
kaindrg 1 year ago
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Those without the gymnast genetics can forget about practising this art.
lesterado 1 year ago
Those without the gymnast genetics can forget about practising this art.
lesterado 1 year ago
@lesterado that is not true. Anyone can practise with the right teacher.
sethbateman 1 year ago
@lesterado I don't know I think some people just arent flexible cause they dont train on flexiblity at a young age like koreans do =]
XD4133 1 year ago
@lesterado Laff out loud! I can become a gymnast and have the genes.
ytacc0 1 year ago
After seeing this I'm starting to see how different and unique Taekkyon and Tae Kwon Do is. There are stark differences but you can definitely see what attributes Tae Kwon Do takes from Taekkyon ;)
OblivionKeyblade72 1 year ago
Older, kwan-based Tae Kwon Do perhaps, and especially ITF Tae Kwon Do. Early TKD was more karate influenced, and Gen. Choi tried to convince Oyama to join Tae Kwon Do. Modern Tae Kwon Do is much more taekkyon influenced, and looks nothing like Oyama karate.
TraditionalTKD 2 years ago
@TraditionalTKD
It's true that, Gen Choi tried to get Oyama to join him. Mas Oyama agreed to change his techniques to TKd techniques. That deal obviously fell through. It's probably good that it did. The personalities of Gen. Choi and Mas Oyama were too different. I'm not sure that the ITF would have benefited from having Mas Oyama as a senior master.
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
I really love this art. Wish I could practice it! lol
nagi85 2 years ago
The stances looks like it takes a long time to learn how to balance...but I really like the flying kick at the end
superconheo 2 years ago
ITF seems more similar to TY than WTF cuz this has bouncing movement and kicks like ITF. Choi hong hi even studied TY
lawker777 2 years ago
No he did not. He claimed to have, but other instructors called him on it and he admitted he did not. Highest he ever got was 2nd Dan in Shotokan. ITF is actually very Shotokan-influenced.
TraditionalTKD 2 years ago
sorry, i wouldve thought he did though, cuz mas oyama did learn taekyon.
lawker777 2 years ago
No, Oyama did not learn Taekkyon either. He may have learned some Chinese art as a young man, but moved to Japan during the Occupation and spent the rest of his career studying Japanese karate. He actually become estranged from Korea and became a Japanese citizen in 1964.
TraditionalTKD 2 years ago
Actually Oyama Karate is so similar to Taekyyon. Yes he copied some movies from it.
kentobi881 2 years ago
How is Oyama karate similar to Taekkyon? The two look nothing alike.
TraditionalTKD 2 years ago
The kicking and punching is so similar to Taekwondo.
kentobi881 2 years ago
@TraditionalTKD Look at kaiten geri, in fact traditional Okinawa Te and its derivates before IIWW never had anything like back, crescent, spinning or roundhouse kicks, because that techniques comes from Korean arts. In fact this is proven by Seiji Nakamura inverted roundhouse video "real karate kick" showing a TAEKWONDO Bituro Chagui, a trademark kick for Taekkyun.
bassuan 1 year ago
@bassuan Correct. Granted, there's a lot of give and take between TKD and karate, given the proximity of the two nations. But anytime you see a karate student doing axe kick, double kicks etc. there's a good chance he learned it from the Korean arts. Those kicks are not indigenous to Japan or karate. Koreans were doing them before the Japanese did.
TraditionalTKD 1 year ago
@TraditionalTKD You are right I've not seen double kicks in traditional Karate but I have seen it in some styles of Gongfu. The Japanese karate is kind of stiff and has stright kicks side kicks long kicks but not inverted kicks and also a lot of punches.
Gabao23 1 year ago
@kentobi881 Please don't take movies as references, friend. Not all of it is true
Grimmwood 1 year ago
@TraditionalTKD Some say he had, different organizations have different stories about what style the man he met as a kid taught him.
MartialArts4Ever 1 year ago
@TraditionalTKD When did he admit this? Other people who's arts are very karate like, have said this?! Boy ,their opinions, really matter. Also how many 2nd dans did you have in karate in the '40's? 2nd dan then was different from 2nd dan now. ITF is shotokhan influenced in some hand techniques. I'm still waiting to see shotokhan 2 direction and three direction kick, flying high kick, 360, 540, kicking techniques, flying triple kicking, not to mention standing triple kicking, tumbling kicks,..
caribbeanpriceclub 8 months ago
LISTEN UP! some of the translation in this video is extremely wrong. Too many for me to go retranslating the whole thing, but just know that a lot of the subtext is wrong.
phil2yoo 2 years ago
@phil2yoo
sethbateman 1 year ago
the subtext in the video is inaccurate in its translation at some points.
tri1234444 2 years ago
does taekyn uses hands
esmaelooo 2 years ago
Thanx for posting, I'd never heard of it until I visited someone else's channel.I now have 22 vids to watch. :)
taigyokushodan 2 years ago
I am in love with this marital art discipline!!!
So beautiful and powerfully! I love the dance character in it with all its different aspects and also the philosophy behind this beautiful martial art!!! Also the unfiroms are very nice!
I wish i could learn it!!! Outstanding jumps as well!
Thank you for sharing!!
5 ***** and favorited.
*bow*
angela
tayounorise 2 years ago
sorry for misspelling i meant *martial art*
tayounorise 2 years ago
It truly is a beautiful art to watch I wish I could train in that art so badly, but just to be there to see it in person at the very least would be enough for me.
Nastuf 2 years ago
Wow amazing. I don't think I could ever do that.
copperblade 2 years ago
this looks great,its got a kind of kung fu drunking monkey going on at times(i mean that with respect)i would love to have a few classes
smcgregor72 2 years ago
This is not Kung fu its taekkyon
External7 2 years ago 15
i didnt say it was kung fu,read my comment again my freind
smcgregor72 2 years ago
Taekkyon is so graceful, light and precision.
I'm looking to learn it in Korea someday.
Taekwondo kicks come from this martial art.
SynxS 2 years ago