I do not understand, I bought a product Maas polish in gel, I applied that to the dots, but the aspect remains unchanged. The dots do not find their basic brightnesses
@Feetandfuture2015 Hello, I am unaware of MAAS selling a product in gel form. The polish I use is a "cream" as they call it. It looks like and comes out of the tube like toothpaste. If this product didn't work then you may have to use a different method first before using the MAAS product. I wish I had a good pic of your platter to see the problem. If you post a video of it, please use good lighting, then send me a link to the video. I don't mind taking a look at it.
If this method does not give you the desired results, there are lots of videos on youtube that show you how to restore oxidized aluminum. Seek and you will find the answer.
TIP: If your platter is EXTREMELY DIRTY, u may want to use a stainless steel and or brass brush to scrub off the grime. Also try a stronger solution like Resolve w/ Oxy Clean.
However, depending on how dirty the platter is, you may need to use high grit sandpaper. I scrubbed the platter for an HOUR with both brushes, but my platter was so dirty that it barely got the black gunk off the dots and got a slightly dull silver. What you need to do next is use 240 and 320 sndppr for a proper shine.
@RamytRamyt Hello, I wouln't resort to these extremes to clean aluminum. Steel and brass brushes would leave heavy scratches behind. Aluminum is a soft metal. If the platter is heavily oxidized or moisture damaged to the point of leaving "cancer" marks on the surface, I would start with 1000 grit sandpaper, then go to 2000 paper , followed by a red rouge machine polish with a cotton wheel. The 240 (?) and 320 (?) paper will scratch aluminum. Always follow the grain when sanding.
@tuneup1200 You know, I hate to admit this, but you're absolutely right. unfortunately for me, 1/2 hour of scrubbing with a regular bristle brush did nothing for me, thus I resorted to using the steel brush and sandpaper. Are there any solutions I could soak the platters in if the dots are blacker than death and they're covered in gunk? I'm giving this turntable away anyway, so I'm not too worried about having the hell out of it (at least it's shiny *like* new now).
Hi mate would it be ok to use a brillo pad on the platter instead of the brush? I'm guessing it wouldn't scratch the dots on the platter seen as its probably made of stainless steel?
@MrMikkiFunk Hello, a brillo pad will not reach the spaces inbetween the strobe dots well. It will cause you to apply a lot of pressure to get between. The platter is made of aluminum, so if you want to polish use an aluminum polish. I'm not sure where the term "Wheels of steel" came from. They are "wheels of aluminum", a magnet will not stick to it like stainless, and the way the platters oxidize is no way like stainless. Aluminum is very reactive, be careful of chemicals used.
@tuneup1200 Thanks, I didn't so much mean the spaces between the dots but the dots themselves. I mentioned the dots as they are silver so you can see the dirt on them a lot more. Ive tried a stiff toothbrush on them as well but my 1210's are quite old and was thinking I would need something a little more abrasive e.g. a brillo pad- to properly clean the dirt off the dots. The platter is a little shinier since i scrubbed it with a toothbrush haha, the black part is clean but not the dots...
@MrMikkiFunk ok, now it seems like the dots are clean. Sounds more like the aluminum needs polishing. You can purchase a buffing pad that attaches to a drill, if you don't have a drill, I'm sure you have a buddy that does. Anyway, see if you can get an aluminum polish that is in the form of a paste. I use MAAS and a couple of other people have suggested an Automobile polish for Aluminum Rims, but make sure it in a paste form, otherwise the buffing wheel will fling it everywhere. Goggles?
@tuneup1200 Well, I wouldn't exactly say they were clean tbh, like I said the toothbrush and toothpaste --for want of a better expression, didn't do shit lol. The dots are still quite grey and dirty, pretty much like how the dots on yours were at the start of the video... I'm guessing that's all the dirt etc as they're not like that at the end of the video lol. I was going to get some metal polish called 'Brasso'...
@MrMikkiFunk Sorry I have yet to make a video for polishing the platter. Notice my video is titled "Clean The Dots". A gray color of the dots is not dirt, it is heavy aluminum oxidation and, therefore, polishing is necessary. The platter I used in the video was just dirty and not oxidized. Sorry if the results were misleading. The use of Brasso may not yield the results you are looking for. It works great on brass, but not aluminum. I wish I knew what products were available in London.
@Feetandfuture2015 what would you like to buy....the cleaner? The brush? You can get the cleaner anywhere,
it's just regular blue glass cleaner, however....if it smells too much like ammonia, add some water to dilute it. the brush you can get at grocery stores, .99 cent stores etc.... Another cleaner you can make yourself, get a cup of distilled water, add two drops of liquid dish soap, mix , dip brush. and clean as instructed in video.
@Feetandfuture2015 , I just noticed you're in France and I''m in the U.S. . Therefore, It would be difficult for me to know the types of brands and their abilities that would be available to you there. The polish I use is MAAS, you can visit their website at maasinc.com to locate or purchase direct. mikeb1444 advised Mother's mag and aluminum wheel polish - mothers.com ......... good luck! Scott
@TheKoukiMonster There have been situations where the method shown in the video does not yeld shiny dots. The method is only used for cleaning the oily grime from our fingers. Oxidation is another issue, especially if has gone subsurface. There are chemicals that exist to remove this, however, it will strip the black paint that surrounds the dots. Try taking the platter to your local machine shop to see if they have a solution for this..... without destruction. I'll also do a research here.
@ba70 the dots are for diagnostic, not for beatmatching, and are there for a reason, even if you had the best ear in the world small deviations from 0% can be much better diagnosed visually as the change in the movement of the dots is much more exaggerated than the real pitch variation.
@strages01 , Hello, I posted two videos on the subject. Go to my channel by clicking on tuneup1200 an look for a video titled "Technics 1200 - Not just a pretty light" . Don't forget to watch part 1 and 2 to get a good understanding.
The best way to avoid having to do this in the first place , is to wipe down the platter(s) after each use to reduce the oil building up (from your fingertips). I have some 1210's that are about 11 years old and the platters look like the day they did when they came out of the box.
The ammonia in windex can render the protective coating over your shiny alumimum, down to nothing. I would reccomend a non acid-based degreasing solution, such as dawn diswashing detergent. Dawn takes greease out of your way and they use it wash penguwins after oil spills. Can you immagine if they were washing penguins in ammonia ??!?
The aluminium dots have oxidised on my deck, i have tried washing up liquid and Brasso but it still looks dull!
stuarttacey 3 weeks ago
lulz, I painted the side of my platter gold.
Portlandhardstylers 1 month ago
Dang i look at all these videos of technics because i would die for one.. and who knows what i would do for two!
HILDRETHG20 1 month ago
i just use a sanding block
MasterHak 1 month ago
I do not understand, I bought a product Maas polish in gel, I applied that to the dots, but the aspect remains unchanged. The dots do not find their basic brightnesses
Feetandfuture2015 3 months ago
@Feetandfuture2015 Hello, I am unaware of MAAS selling a product in gel form. The polish I use is a "cream" as they call it. It looks like and comes out of the tube like toothpaste. If this product didn't work then you may have to use a different method first before using the MAAS product. I wish I had a good pic of your platter to see the problem. If you post a video of it, please use good lighting, then send me a link to the video. I don't mind taking a look at it.
tuneup1200 3 months ago
If this method does not give you the desired results, there are lots of videos on youtube that show you how to restore oxidized aluminum. Seek and you will find the answer.
tuneup1200 3 months ago
TIP: If your platter is EXTREMELY DIRTY, u may want to use a stainless steel and or brass brush to scrub off the grime. Also try a stronger solution like Resolve w/ Oxy Clean.
However, depending on how dirty the platter is, you may need to use high grit sandpaper. I scrubbed the platter for an HOUR with both brushes, but my platter was so dirty that it barely got the black gunk off the dots and got a slightly dull silver. What you need to do next is use 240 and 320 sndppr for a proper shine.
RamytRamyt 3 months ago
@RamytRamyt Hello, I wouln't resort to these extremes to clean aluminum. Steel and brass brushes would leave heavy scratches behind. Aluminum is a soft metal. If the platter is heavily oxidized or moisture damaged to the point of leaving "cancer" marks on the surface, I would start with 1000 grit sandpaper, then go to 2000 paper , followed by a red rouge machine polish with a cotton wheel. The 240 (?) and 320 (?) paper will scratch aluminum. Always follow the grain when sanding.
tuneup1200 3 months ago
@tuneup1200 You know, I hate to admit this, but you're absolutely right. unfortunately for me, 1/2 hour of scrubbing with a regular bristle brush did nothing for me, thus I resorted to using the steel brush and sandpaper. Are there any solutions I could soak the platters in if the dots are blacker than death and they're covered in gunk? I'm giving this turntable away anyway, so I'm not too worried about having the hell out of it (at least it's shiny *like* new now).
RamytRamyt 3 months ago
@tuneup1200
Again, nice simple but effective video ; )
HitchHikersBlues 6 months ago
Hi mate would it be ok to use a brillo pad on the platter instead of the brush? I'm guessing it wouldn't scratch the dots on the platter seen as its probably made of stainless steel?
MrMikkiFunk 9 months ago
@MrMikkiFunk Hello, a brillo pad will not reach the spaces inbetween the strobe dots well. It will cause you to apply a lot of pressure to get between. The platter is made of aluminum, so if you want to polish use an aluminum polish. I'm not sure where the term "Wheels of steel" came from. They are "wheels of aluminum", a magnet will not stick to it like stainless, and the way the platters oxidize is no way like stainless. Aluminum is very reactive, be careful of chemicals used.
tuneup1200 9 months ago
@tuneup1200 Thanks, I didn't so much mean the spaces between the dots but the dots themselves. I mentioned the dots as they are silver so you can see the dirt on them a lot more. Ive tried a stiff toothbrush on them as well but my 1210's are quite old and was thinking I would need something a little more abrasive e.g. a brillo pad- to properly clean the dirt off the dots. The platter is a little shinier since i scrubbed it with a toothbrush haha, the black part is clean but not the dots...
MrMikkiFunk 9 months ago
@MrMikkiFunk ok, now it seems like the dots are clean. Sounds more like the aluminum needs polishing. You can purchase a buffing pad that attaches to a drill, if you don't have a drill, I'm sure you have a buddy that does. Anyway, see if you can get an aluminum polish that is in the form of a paste. I use MAAS and a couple of other people have suggested an Automobile polish for Aluminum Rims, but make sure it in a paste form, otherwise the buffing wheel will fling it everywhere. Goggles?
tuneup1200 9 months ago
@tuneup1200 Well, I wouldn't exactly say they were clean tbh, like I said the toothbrush and toothpaste --for want of a better expression, didn't do shit lol. The dots are still quite grey and dirty, pretty much like how the dots on yours were at the start of the video... I'm guessing that's all the dirt etc as they're not like that at the end of the video lol. I was going to get some metal polish called 'Brasso'...
MrMikkiFunk 9 months ago
@MrMikkiFunk Sorry I have yet to make a video for polishing the platter. Notice my video is titled "Clean The Dots". A gray color of the dots is not dirt, it is heavy aluminum oxidation and, therefore, polishing is necessary. The platter I used in the video was just dirty and not oxidized. Sorry if the results were misleading. The use of Brasso may not yield the results you are looking for. It works great on brass, but not aluminum. I wish I knew what products were available in London.
tuneup1200 8 months ago
@tuneup1200 wheels of steel is just a rhyme that MC's use.. i've never thought of it as a technical fact
crushdnb 5 months ago
Where can buy this ?
Feetandfuture2015 9 months ago
@Feetandfuture2015 what would you like to buy....the cleaner? The brush? You can get the cleaner anywhere,
it's just regular blue glass cleaner, however....if it smells too much like ammonia, add some water to dilute it. the brush you can get at grocery stores, .99 cent stores etc.... Another cleaner you can make yourself, get a cup of distilled water, add two drops of liquid dish soap, mix , dip brush. and clean as instructed in video.
tuneup1200 9 months ago
@tuneup1200 I'm interested by the cleaner, but I have not found on ebay :(
Feetandfuture2015 9 months ago
@Feetandfuture2015 , I just noticed you're in France and I''m in the U.S. . Therefore, It would be difficult for me to know the types of brands and their abilities that would be available to you there. The polish I use is MAAS, you can visit their website at maasinc.com to locate or purchase direct. mikeb1444 advised Mother's mag and aluminum wheel polish - mothers.com ......... good luck! Scott
tuneup1200 9 months ago
Mother's wheel polish is a great idea!! It's probably easier to find than the MAAS polish too!!
tuneup1200 1 year ago
A bit of Mothers wheel polish rubbed into a towel gives you some insane shine.
mikeb1444 1 year ago
hey my dots are really dirty and i think they began to oxidize you have any tips on getting those shiny?
TheKoukiMonster 1 year ago
@TheKoukiMonster There have been situations where the method shown in the video does not yeld shiny dots. The method is only used for cleaning the oily grime from our fingers. Oxidation is another issue, especially if has gone subsurface. There are chemicals that exist to remove this, however, it will strip the black paint that surrounds the dots. Try taking the platter to your local machine shop to see if they have a solution for this..... without destruction. I'll also do a research here.
tuneup1200 1 year ago
who needs the dots. if you have a good ear there's no need for them. read the rhythm not the dots.
ba70 1 year ago
@ba70 the dots are still a good tool to let you know if your pitch control, or drive circuit is bad, even in the slightest way.
tuneup1200 1 year ago 2
@ba70 the dots are for diagnostic, not for beatmatching, and are there for a reason, even if you had the best ear in the world small deviations from 0% can be much better diagnosed visually as the change in the movement of the dots is much more exaggerated than the real pitch variation.
Ryoga2K 1 year ago
Windscreen wiper????
badness1 1 year ago
what are the dots for exactly?
strages01 1 year ago
@strages01 , Hello, I posted two videos on the subject. Go to my channel by clicking on tuneup1200 an look for a video titled "Technics 1200 - Not just a pretty light" . Don't forget to watch part 1 and 2 to get a good understanding.
tuneup1200 1 year ago
I never use the dots anyway...
dejwid420 1 year ago
The best way to avoid having to do this in the first place , is to wipe down the platter(s) after each use to reduce the oil building up (from your fingertips). I have some 1210's that are about 11 years old and the platters look like the day they did when they came out of the box.
vynilspinner 1 year ago
The ammonia in windex can render the protective coating over your shiny alumimum, down to nothing. I would reccomend a non acid-based degreasing solution, such as dawn diswashing detergent. Dawn takes greease out of your way and they use it wash penguwins after oil spills. Can you immagine if they were washing penguins in ammonia ??!?
maptlbh 1 year ago
thanks! good vid.
owlwink 2 years ago
hi,which product you use to clean the plate? thank´s.
PAULORPVIANA 2 years ago