why it's not a default feature on Nissans? Mitsubishi pajero's all have those option inbuilt and controlled by gearbox changer . why nissans don't do the same and why i have to spent more money on something what should be in 4wd?
@foxboy63 You're looking at close to $2000 dollars for front and rear both with out the install. That is for these ARB air lockers of coarse, but there is a lot of options and a lot cheaper ones out there. I'd go with the OX lockers like Iniazy told the other guy up there. There a little more affordable, manually operate, and work well. You can upgrade them to an electric cable under the truck to have electric switches instead of a manual cable with a level inside the vehicle if wanted also.
I've had 3 ARB lockers now, they have all let me down. And there is no warranty, if your tire size is more than 15% of the factory tire size. They wont touch it. My lockers were like they were made of warm swiss cheese, very weak, and no post purchase service.. In short - they told me to fuck off.
@aus2045 Well I think you spoke with the wrong guy that day. I have a Dana 44 with the 35 Spline ARB. I have had it for over 6 years ago and had one of the gears wear out (warranty is only for 2 years). I called Matt at ARBUSA and he had the parts in the mail and to me in 2 days at no cost. Try him and see. J
This is a great product the only thing I suggest is that you upgrade the air lines that come with it, they lasted good but living in Arizona we have a lot of dry heat and they actually rotted out after 16 months. I still stand by this locker over any other just a hint for those living in a dry hot climate.
Well I'll tell you what, I live in Saudi Arabia, one of the hottest places on the planet, where the temperature in the mid of the summer reaches 50 degrees celcius (122 F) easily and remains at that temperature for three months in a row at mid day. I have mine now for three years, no problems at all with my air lines.
It's very costly mod to be honest...!!! My father changed the original Nissan Patrol Diff locks with the ARB ones and it was pretty expensive....they're working awesome but its expensive...for both rear and front axle plus compressor it was around 1500 GBP or 1700 Euro or about $2300!!! :)
If you have the money there isn't anything better!!
Definitely a locker. The only advantage of traction control is it works on road as well, while lockers can only work off-road. Otherwise, lockers excel in every aspect.
Traction control is not as heavy duty, as it depends on the breaks and the ABS system. Brakes could overheat, wear out, and don't work very well when wet. Lockers are not affected by any of those.
@iniazy Locker can be used on-road too. A mate if mine owns a 2*4 lux with lockers and if the tray is empty on wet days hill starts at traffic lights turs them for a smooth take off
I have 93 yj wangler. I'm looking for a locker sysytem. There are alot of options. Any sugestions on type and brand. We do not do compations but we do off road weekly sand and rocks.
You have many many options. The best I'd recommend is the OX locker. Their best feature is a manual mechanical lever-controlled locker, not electric, not air-operated.
Try around $3,000 for a f & r setup. Pro's get paid well to do this since it's a fairly technical job to do. Looking at gears you might not think so, but it is a very hard and technical job to do.
$900 apiece for the diffs = $1,800 + tax.
Compressor is @ $250 + tax
BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!! Act now and...
Labor for the pro to install it + new ring gears cause you'll want to go up. IDK. Get on a forum that has your 4WD (hopefully a Toyota) and ask.
Whilst engaging a Robert's Diff Lock while moving is quite fine, engaging it under load ( ie engagement during wheel lifting is considered under load ) is not recommended due to the fact that different sides of the drive axle are spinning at different rates and this causes torsional forces to increase and therefore damage your drive train. The Diff centre and diff lock would be fine.
NB : Just use common sense and engage your diff locks wisely.
No only not recommended but stupid! Those 4x4s that come with selectable lockers from the factory like the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon have a computer that wont engage the locker unless the axles are spinning at the same angular speed. Its supposed to be idiot proof for those of us (not me) who don't like to think while driving.... or living.
All the products you mentioned above are good and have their place.
The beauty of the Robert's Diff Lock ( or air locker ), is that they have no problems. You can actuate them on the move and when they are disconnected they have no negative traits.
The ARB Air Locker is sold from Iceland to Svalbard and from Seattle to Sydney. They are simply the best. They also strengthen your diff.
The international patent has expired, so expect many manufacturers to start making them. ARB 4 ever :o)
Electric lockers and cable actuated lockers can be actuated on the move too and I can think on one problem with a Roberts Diff lock: if you tear the air hose or the air pump breaks you have no more locking diff :( I consider that a negative trait.
Thanks for the remarks. I have faced a problem with my ARB Airlocker, which I consider might be a potential disadvantage of it. After several months of driving the car with the locker, diff oil started leaking out of the air tube, eventually clogging the solenoid on the air compressor and rendering the locking mechanism inoperable. I had to do a big mechanical job and buy replacement parts for it to fix it. I'm still crossing my fingers hoping it wouldn't happen again.
They will repair and replace seals for you for free.
The new improved Air Locker does not have that problem. Call ARB state office and talk to them.
The original problem was actually caused by poor installation and not by any ARB part. They have however changed their parts manufacture to solve the "installation" problem.
That's what I was told by ARB, and I believe them. The problem has so far not shown up again. They sent me the parts for free, but I had to pay to install it.
why it's not a default feature on Nissans? Mitsubishi pajero's all have those option inbuilt and controlled by gearbox changer . why nissans don't do the same and why i have to spent more money on something what should be in 4wd?
adv777adv 1 month ago
worst voice ever
chrisking666 9 months ago
Or just buy a Landcruiser 80 series with full Front, Central and Rear lockers as standard! Will do the same thing!
radiostarcountry 1 year ago
How much do airlockers front and rear for a Ranger cost? do they make them for ford rangers? with the old Twin Traction beam front end
foxboy63 1 year ago
@foxboy63 You're looking at close to $2000 dollars for front and rear both with out the install. That is for these ARB air lockers of coarse, but there is a lot of options and a lot cheaper ones out there. I'd go with the OX lockers like Iniazy told the other guy up there. There a little more affordable, manually operate, and work well. You can upgrade them to an electric cable under the truck to have electric switches instead of a manual cable with a level inside the vehicle if wanted also.
TheAmericanUhate 1 year ago
I've had 3 ARB lockers now, they have all let me down. And there is no warranty, if your tire size is more than 15% of the factory tire size. They wont touch it. My lockers were like they were made of warm swiss cheese, very weak, and no post purchase service.. In short - they told me to fuck off.
aus2045 1 year ago
@aus2045 Well I think you spoke with the wrong guy that day. I have a Dana 44 with the 35 Spline ARB. I have had it for over 6 years ago and had one of the gears wear out (warranty is only for 2 years). I called Matt at ARBUSA and he had the parts in the mail and to me in 2 days at no cost. Try him and see. J
Jevy383383 1 year ago
This is a great product the only thing I suggest is that you upgrade the air lines that come with it, they lasted good but living in Arizona we have a lot of dry heat and they actually rotted out after 16 months. I still stand by this locker over any other just a hint for those living in a dry hot climate.
adamslurch71 1 year ago
Well I'll tell you what, I live in Saudi Arabia, one of the hottest places on the planet, where the temperature in the mid of the summer reaches 50 degrees celcius (122 F) easily and remains at that temperature for three months in a row at mid day. I have mine now for three years, no problems at all with my air lines.
iniazy 1 year ago
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excellent video, thanks
kumquatsta 2 years ago
I'm sold! This will be the next mod I do to my zj.
pikesnatcher 2 years ago
It's very costly mod to be honest...!!! My father changed the original Nissan Patrol Diff locks with the ARB ones and it was pretty expensive....they're working awesome but its expensive...for both rear and front axle plus compressor it was around 1500 GBP or 1700 Euro or about $2300!!! :)
If you have the money there isn't anything better!!
dongleboo 2 years ago
MY God !
What the hell am I watching !?
0500666111 2 years ago
what is better: Lockers or traccio control sistem?
mduran17 2 years ago
Definitely a locker. The only advantage of traction control is it works on road as well, while lockers can only work off-road. Otherwise, lockers excel in every aspect.
Traction control is not as heavy duty, as it depends on the breaks and the ABS system. Brakes could overheat, wear out, and don't work very well when wet. Lockers are not affected by any of those.
iniazy 2 years ago
@iniazy Locker can be used on-road too. A mate if mine owns a 2*4 lux with lockers and if the tray is empty on wet days hill starts at traffic lights turs them for a smooth take off
TjMagnaSi 1 year ago
I have 93 yj wangler. I'm looking for a locker sysytem. There are alot of options. Any sugestions on type and brand. We do not do compations but we do off road weekly sand and rocks.
snow1321 2 years ago
You have many many options. The best I'd recommend is the OX locker. Their best feature is a manual mechanical lever-controlled locker, not electric, not air-operated.
iniazy 2 years ago
Thanks for the answer I'll look these up. I have always liked mechanical operated things more. If there more reliealbe thats probly the way I'll go.
snow1321 2 years ago
@snow1321 So what did you get?? Hopefully a ARB..
Jevy383383 1 year ago
What are some upgrades you can get for a V8 RWD Jeep Commander? that will allow it to do some off roading?
Holden599GTB 3 years ago
If it's a rear wheel drive, the only thing you can do is sell it and buy a 4WD version. I didn't know they had them in RWD.
There are no Airlockers for the Jeep commander, because if it is equipped with Quadra Drive II, it's triple LSDs perform equivalently to a locker.
iniazy 3 years ago
yeah i know, if i sell it im getting sportyer car, so yeah, lol Mini cooper here i come
Holden599GTB 3 years ago
what the fuck kind of car did you have if a mini cooper is a sportier up grade lmfao
bazilisginger 2 years ago
if you know what your replying to youll know. good job.
Holden599GTB 2 years ago
how much do these cost and installed?
ilynchy 3 years ago
In US$ about 700 to 900, without installation.
iniazy 3 years ago
aaaaa, wrong.
Stateside at least...
Try around $3,000 for a f & r setup. Pro's get paid well to do this since it's a fairly technical job to do. Looking at gears you might not think so, but it is a very hard and technical job to do.
$900 apiece for the diffs = $1,800 + tax.
Compressor is @ $250 + tax
BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE!! Act now and...
Labor for the pro to install it + new ring gears cause you'll want to go up. IDK. Get on a forum that has your 4WD (hopefully a Toyota) and ask.
F0ckUtoob 3 years ago
lol nah a swb pajero
2"body
2"spring
bullbar + winch
rearbar
uhf
lightforce sopts in the front
ilynchy 3 years ago
He should engage the locker at wide open throttle with the wheels spinning.... for fun.
madzyzome 3 years ago
with a Robert's Diff lock, that is no problem...
ihaveairlockers 3 years ago
Then why does the instruction manual not to engage locker under load?
madzyzome 3 years ago
This is a good question.
Whilst engaging a Robert's Diff Lock while moving is quite fine, engaging it under load ( ie engagement during wheel lifting is considered under load ) is not recommended due to the fact that different sides of the drive axle are spinning at different rates and this causes torsional forces to increase and therefore damage your drive train. The Diff centre and diff lock would be fine.
NB : Just use common sense and engage your diff locks wisely.
Have fun offroad :)
ihaveairlockers 3 years ago
No only not recommended but stupid! Those 4x4s that come with selectable lockers from the factory like the Jeep Wrangler Rubicon have a computer that wont engage the locker unless the axles are spinning at the same angular speed. Its supposed to be idiot proof for those of us (not me) who don't like to think while driving.... or living.
madzyzome 3 years ago
Nice clip. Yeah, lockers make a huge difference.
spondylos 3 years ago
If it's my car, I get 2 Robert's Diff locks...
ihaveairlockers 3 years ago
I still think stock electric ones are more reliable
RJ7088 3 years ago
They are ... if the car is equipped with such. Most cars don't have them though.
iniazy 3 years ago
you can build em in as easy as the arb. E-Lockers might be best beside Aussie-Lockers.
wodanowitz 3 years ago
All 4wd's should have air lockers... I can't drive a car without them....
ihaveairlockers 4 years ago
What about electric lockers or cable actuated lockers or even auto lockers?
madzyzome 3 years ago
All the products you mentioned above are good and have their place.
The beauty of the Robert's Diff Lock ( or air locker ), is that they have no problems. You can actuate them on the move and when they are disconnected they have no negative traits.
The ARB Air Locker is sold from Iceland to Svalbard and from Seattle to Sydney. They are simply the best. They also strengthen your diff.
The international patent has expired, so expect many manufacturers to start making them. ARB 4 ever :o)
ihaveairlockers 3 years ago
Electric lockers and cable actuated lockers can be actuated on the move too and I can think on one problem with a Roberts Diff lock: if you tear the air hose or the air pump breaks you have no more locking diff :( I consider that a negative trait.
madzyzome 3 years ago
Thanks for the remarks. I have faced a problem with my ARB Airlocker, which I consider might be a potential disadvantage of it. After several months of driving the car with the locker, diff oil started leaking out of the air tube, eventually clogging the solenoid on the air compressor and rendering the locking mechanism inoperable. I had to do a big mechanical job and buy replacement parts for it to fix it. I'm still crossing my fingers hoping it wouldn't happen again.
iniazy 3 years ago
That problem is well known about by ARB.
They will repair and replace seals for you for free.
The new improved Air Locker does not have that problem. Call ARB state office and talk to them.
The original problem was actually caused by poor installation and not by any ARB part. They have however changed their parts manufacture to solve the "installation" problem.
That's the truth of the matter.
ihaveairlockers 3 years ago
That's what I was told by ARB, and I believe them. The problem has so far not shown up again. They sent me the parts for free, but I had to pay to install it.
iniazy 3 years ago
nice video!
nuclearthreat545 4 years ago