She definitely destroyed him. He was a pedophile, but he didn't want to hurt the children, he didn't want to abuse them. She was the one flirting with him, she knew what she was doing and it's a fact she was a little slut. She had sex the first time when she was 12 to 'try' it. He wasn't her first lover. And he never did something to her. She was always the one trying to get him in bed, he did never ever do that. Conclusion: she destroyed him. I don't say he didn't destroy her even a bit, she w
@pjnlsn because the chick he loved when he was 14 died a few months after they slept together and he's been like trying to replace her his whole life.
@immythomsonreow Mm. Yeah, I have a basic familiarity with the story.
I meant, how does loving a 14 yr old, or girls he wants to replace her with, make him a pedophile?
I've no head for numbers, so maybe the girls he's attracted to are much much younger than 14, I can't recall, and then we can talk. But I should say that being attracted to a 14 yr old does not automatically make you a pedophile.
@AviatorDuck As in the preference for girls of that age?
But even if we assume that the presence of such preference is automatically a disorderly condition, what is wrong with that? Or with just finding a girl of that attractive at all?
@pjnlsn well at the start of the book it talks about how he is attracted to only younger girls, like he slept with a young french prostitute because she looked younger than she was, but i think he isn't really after lolita as he realises at the end that he loves her, and not her age, but i don't think that movie really made that clear.
@TheAwedede when a 12 year old tries to have sex with you, you SHOULD DEFINITELY reprimand the kid and talk to her or his parents! Ask them to be more open about sexuality with their child and more interested in the child `s mind! ...you NEVER "let a child manipulate you into having sex"!!!...if you feel like you are attracted to a 12 year old, get some adult lover. If it does not help, get help. No child can "destroy" you. Especially when her mother dies! She needs help, not sex. Are we clear?
He had a perverted fascination with little girls, and she had a whorish personality (coming from her crazy mother). He was obsessed with her. She couldn't do that to a non-obsessive person.
In the book, the only time she is 'sexy' is when he's describing her - e.g. when she's playing tennis or whatever, he sees it as sexual. In reality she's just a clumsy kid playing tennis. It's like beer-goggles by a pedo. Apart from when she's naively playing at sex with him in the beginning, that's all it is - a naughty game to her. You soon see she is jealous of other kids having non-rapist daddies and hates sex because she never expresses interest in it at Beardsley.
"You cheated me of my redemption." Just thinking aloud here, but I think he means he realised he still loved Lolita even when she grew up, so he was 'cured' of being a paedophile, but now she will never come back with him so he can never be redeemed.
@AlinaAnn I don't think so, all Humbert is saying Quility is guilty for Lolita been poor, pregnant and uneducated living in a shack with a blue collar husband. He fails to take accountability for Lolita's life on how it turned out. He is into class and sophistication, and he hope to have Lolita go to college and be a normal and successful woman (while having sex with him of course). He feels cheated because Quilty secuded Lolita, but that is what HE did. Quilty was Lol's escape from "dad".
@Leona10037 No, it's ok. I completely agree with pretty much all your comments though; it's nice to see someone who doesn't see Humbert as the victim. You obviously 'get' the point of the story. :)
@shrutisiag How the hell did he destroy her? She was with another guy before him. She would have seduced some other guy, if not him.
He, on the other hand, never went after another girl, young or old. He was in love with her, even when she was almost 18 and pregnany with another man's children.
@YouTodayKing What i meant was both were each other's poison...they both destroyed each other. No one was happy with each other nor were they happy without each other. Atleast that's what i think.
@shrutisiag He would have been ok without her. She would might have been much worse off without him. She might have seduced an older man that might have prostituted her out.
@YouTodayKing There could have been a lot of "might haves" this is based on what was. Also i believe that her mom might have not died or she may have not seduced any older person and just gone about her life...
@scaleshchess No HE destroyed her! The only difference between these two is that Quilty is true to himself about his tastes whereas Humboldt blames the precocious young girl HE ruined for his actions. He is killing this guy because he wants to deny or kill the truth of his real self; he can't face it. He is a pedophile. Lolita saw him as his father even in their last encounter she says to her pregnant belly, "say by to dad"! Her "dad" thought her to see herself as a sex object.
@Leona10037 You summarise it well! Quilty knew what he was and never made excuses for himself like Humbert did. I think this is one of the problems of the film - it doesn't make you realise that Humbert always twisted everything from his point of view so that everything she did looked sexualised to him, so it must be her fault. That's why lots of people here are saying she's a slut, et cetera - if they read the book they would see that she was severely depressed and was much more child-like.
@AlinaAnn I have not read the book, but the director either had a point of view and that seems to be to humanize the abuser and to get audiences to sympathize with him or he failed to balance the film. Many viewers' comments either justify the sexual abuse as he "loved"her, benign love story, or as he is the victim of Dolore's as a monstrous sex fiend. One has to remember that while she was just a girl unaware of how her body was changing, he saw sex personified.
@AlinaAnn This is so beside the point but you are one of a very few people i have seen who use et cetera (the full form) instead of the short etc...haha :) (it was amazing and amusing so had to be noted and be told to)
@shrutisiag Haha! I actually do write etc when I feel lazy, but I was taught at school to write it fully - I went to a stuck-up English school and it got beaten into me. But I'm glad it amused you! :D
@Leona10037 In some ways, it is a cautionary tale for mothers to protect their girls from the unsuspecting sexual predators who see a young women's body changing as she dances, plays tennis, chews gum and pretend to be teachers, mentors and helpers only to ruin their lives forever. It is massive and irreversible trauma for the young girl. It is telling that in the movie Lolita tells her "dad" that she would rather go back to Quilty than back with him. She knows "dad" messed her life.
This is really hard and painful to watch. It made me nauseous, I truly felt for the guy getting shot like that. Damn...
SaggyBawlz 2 weeks ago
It ended just like this??????????? I thought the police chased humbert and lo dies?? someone please reply
kaikaleidescope 3 weeks ago
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JesusManson323 1 month ago
Isn't that Frank Langella - the dude who played Dracula in the 1970s movie?
curious420 1 month ago
@curious420 Yes.
LightStijn 3 weeks ago
2:44 What kind of burlesque is this? This is no time for a concert.
LOGMALBOT 1 month ago
THAT WAS AMAZING
dianatakehara 1 month ago
LMAO
i laughed so hard when he suddenly started playing the piano OMG. and when dear old hum shoots him, so dramatic lmao
Rinxxxxx 1 month ago
READ THE BOOK PEOPLE! it will explain you everything
KatiaOrSe 2 months ago 3
i thought they wernt suppose to show naked things on youtube.........to late for that
soccerluvergirl 2 months ago
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i was really taken by surprise there! omg! somebody should have told that guy that we are not into middle aged frontal nude!!!
nazharoko 2 months ago
i was really taken by surprise there! omg! somebody should have told that guy that we are not into middle aged frontal nude!!!
nazharoko 2 months ago
I watch all 11 parts hoping to get a nip slip of Dominique Swain and all get is this?
TheDude2366 2 months ago
It is meant in the book that these two men were one and the same person.
carolineleiden 3 months ago
@carolineleiden I haven't read the book yet so I'd really like to know why is it you feel these two men are one and the same?
XanStephP 2 months ago
Frank Langella was apparently very embarrassed that his full-frontal nudity was left in the film and doesn't like to discuss it to this day.
Muirmaiden 4 months ago
Oh god what
Suddenly there was a floppy middle aged penis
Coming straight at me
rinkokoto 4 months ago 23
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cuckos95 2 days ago
SHIT PENIS!!Shot Ass!!! i not like old man nude like shit!
Acheh95 4 months ago
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Acheh95 4 months ago
She definitely destroyed him. He was a pedophile, but he didn't want to hurt the children, he didn't want to abuse them. She was the one flirting with him, she knew what she was doing and it's a fact she was a little slut. She had sex the first time when she was 12 to 'try' it. He wasn't her first lover. And he never did something to her. She was always the one trying to get him in bed, he did never ever do that. Conclusion: she destroyed him. I don't say he didn't destroy her even a bit, she w
TheAwedede 4 months ago
@TheAwedede Why is he a pedophile?
pjnlsn 3 months ago
@pjnlsn because the chick he loved when he was 14 died a few months after they slept together and he's been like trying to replace her his whole life.
immythomsonreow 1 month ago
@immythomsonreow Mm. Yeah, I have a basic familiarity with the story.
I meant, how does loving a 14 yr old, or girls he wants to replace her with, make him a pedophile?
I've no head for numbers, so maybe the girls he's attracted to are much much younger than 14, I can't recall, and then we can talk. But I should say that being attracted to a 14 yr old does not automatically make you a pedophile.
pjnlsn 1 month ago
@pjnlsn it's hebephilia
AviatorDuck 1 month ago
@AviatorDuck As in the preference for girls of that age?
But even if we assume that the presence of such preference is automatically a disorderly condition, what is wrong with that? Or with just finding a girl of that attractive at all?
pjnlsn 1 month ago
@pjnlsn well at the start of the book it talks about how he is attracted to only younger girls, like he slept with a young french prostitute because she looked younger than she was, but i think he isn't really after lolita as he realises at the end that he loves her, and not her age, but i don't think that movie really made that clear.
immythomsonreow 1 month ago
@pjnlsn and in the book he doesn't like them younger than 9 or older than 14 at the start
immythomsonreow 1 month ago
@TheAwedede when a 12 year old tries to have sex with you, you SHOULD DEFINITELY reprimand the kid and talk to her or his parents! Ask them to be more open about sexuality with their child and more interested in the child `s mind! ...you NEVER "let a child manipulate you into having sex"!!!...if you feel like you are attracted to a 12 year old, get some adult lover. If it does not help, get help. No child can "destroy" you. Especially when her mother dies! She needs help, not sex. Are we clear?
peterpeter461 3 days ago
He had a perverted fascination with little girls, and she had a whorish personality (coming from her crazy mother). He was obsessed with her. She couldn't do that to a non-obsessive person.
Ljisica90 5 months ago
WHy is Quilty such a pussy in this? He was a real cynical fuckwit in the book.
OmegaQuave 5 months ago
@OmegaQuave Still better than Kubrick's version of Quilty.
LightStijn 3 weeks ago
@LightStijn Yes, but unfortunatly thats not saying much.
OmegaQuave 3 weeks ago
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your welcome
ShawnRaeMarson 6 months ago
@ShawnRaeMarson you ve never seen one? /_/
ShotokanEditor 6 months ago
2:26 oh dear God I did not need to see that
KenzieKaddl 6 months ago 30
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katyagorm 3 months ago
In the book, the only time she is 'sexy' is when he's describing her - e.g. when she's playing tennis or whatever, he sees it as sexual. In reality she's just a clumsy kid playing tennis. It's like beer-goggles by a pedo. Apart from when she's naively playing at sex with him in the beginning, that's all it is - a naughty game to her. You soon see she is jealous of other kids having non-rapist daddies and hates sex because she never expresses interest in it at Beardsley.
AlinaAnn 6 months ago 4
"You cheated me of my redemption." Just thinking aloud here, but I think he means he realised he still loved Lolita even when she grew up, so he was 'cured' of being a paedophile, but now she will never come back with him so he can never be redeemed.
AlinaAnn 6 months ago
@AlinaAnn I don't think so, all Humbert is saying Quility is guilty for Lolita been poor, pregnant and uneducated living in a shack with a blue collar husband. He fails to take accountability for Lolita's life on how it turned out. He is into class and sophistication, and he hope to have Lolita go to college and be a normal and successful woman (while having sex with him of course). He feels cheated because Quilty secuded Lolita, but that is what HE did. Quilty was Lol's escape from "dad".
Leona10037 6 months ago
@Leona10037 It's my interpretation from what I felt from the movie and book. Doesn't make it wrong.
AlinaAnn 6 months ago
@AlinaAnn Yes, I am sorry, I didnt intend to say it was wrong and I have not read the book again. I read it many years ago. Thanks for replying.
Leona10037 6 months ago
@Leona10037 No, it's ok. I completely agree with pretty much all your comments though; it's nice to see someone who doesn't see Humbert as the victim. You obviously 'get' the point of the story. :)
AlinaAnn 6 months ago
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or the opposite. He destroyed her. Or both were each others poison
shrutisiag 7 months ago 19
@shrutisiag How the hell did he destroy her? She was with another guy before him. She would have seduced some other guy, if not him.
He, on the other hand, never went after another girl, young or old. He was in love with her, even when she was almost 18 and pregnany with another man's children.
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@YouTodayKing What i meant was both were each other's poison...they both destroyed each other. No one was happy with each other nor were they happy without each other. Atleast that's what i think.
shrutisiag 5 months ago
@shrutisiag He would have been ok without her. She would might have been much worse off without him. She might have seduced an older man that might have prostituted her out.
YouTodayKing 5 months ago
@YouTodayKing There could have been a lot of "might haves" this is based on what was. Also i believe that her mom might have not died or she may have not seduced any older person and just gone about her life...
shrutisiag 5 months ago
@shrutisiag But the thing is, he wasn't her first, and he wouldn't be her last.
YouTodayKing 5 months ago 9
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she destroyed him
scaleshchess 8 months ago 17
@scaleshchess No HE destroyed her! The only difference between these two is that Quilty is true to himself about his tastes whereas Humboldt blames the precocious young girl HE ruined for his actions. He is killing this guy because he wants to deny or kill the truth of his real self; he can't face it. He is a pedophile. Lolita saw him as his father even in their last encounter she says to her pregnant belly, "say by to dad"! Her "dad" thought her to see herself as a sex object.
Leona10037 6 months ago
@Leona10037 You summarise it well! Quilty knew what he was and never made excuses for himself like Humbert did. I think this is one of the problems of the film - it doesn't make you realise that Humbert always twisted everything from his point of view so that everything she did looked sexualised to him, so it must be her fault. That's why lots of people here are saying she's a slut, et cetera - if they read the book they would see that she was severely depressed and was much more child-like.
AlinaAnn 6 months ago 2
@AlinaAnn I have not read the book, but the director either had a point of view and that seems to be to humanize the abuser and to get audiences to sympathize with him or he failed to balance the film. Many viewers' comments either justify the sexual abuse as he "loved"her, benign love story, or as he is the victim of Dolore's as a monstrous sex fiend. One has to remember that while she was just a girl unaware of how her body was changing, he saw sex personified.
Leona10037 6 months ago 2
@AlinaAnn This is so beside the point but you are one of a very few people i have seen who use et cetera (the full form) instead of the short etc...haha :) (it was amazing and amusing so had to be noted and be told to)
shrutisiag 5 months ago
@shrutisiag Haha! I actually do write etc when I feel lazy, but I was taught at school to write it fully - I went to a stuck-up English school and it got beaten into me. But I'm glad it amused you! :D
AlinaAnn 5 months ago
@Leona10037 In some ways, it is a cautionary tale for mothers to protect their girls from the unsuspecting sexual predators who see a young women's body changing as she dances, plays tennis, chews gum and pretend to be teachers, mentors and helpers only to ruin their lives forever. It is massive and irreversible trauma for the young girl. It is telling that in the movie Lolita tells her "dad" that she would rather go back to Quilty than back with him. She knows "dad" messed her life.
Leona10037 6 months ago 4