Anti Psychology

[scarred10]

@bwanadikdeepinside a degree in psychology is NOT a clinical psychologist,its the basic requirement to apply for entry to a clinical doctorate in psychology which is what you need to complete to call yourself a clinical psychologist. A counselling pschologist requires only a masters and pschotherapy requires nothing since its not regulated.So its 4 yr psychology degree(involves no therapeutic application)and then approx 3 yrs clinical internship which is the real training for the job

[MrTheGrabber]

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[Blindguardian523]

psychology just tells you that youre shit, they suck you in and beat you down, theres nothing to it, like oh boy they went to school for like a decade to be able to do what they do, so what? you could work in a concentration camp for a decade and get really good at throwing babies in ovens for fucks sake, that doesnt make it any better.

[billysue2]

this lad is delusional,psychologist need 7 to 8yrs education and training to practise as chartered psychologists,they deserve the wage they get.Of course psychology and psychiatry interact,a psychologist can neither diagnose nor prescribe meds,they generally work together,with the therapist doing the donkey work.They have done way more good than harm.

[caketheory]

@billysue2 Just because they do 7 to 8 years of education and training doesn't mean psychology is a science or that they deserve a good wage.

Psychology works on the same principle as all the other bogus teatments which claim to have proof and results like crystal healing, NLP, neurofeedback, reiki, homeopathy etc. I did a video about it called "psychiatry placebo effect".

The fact it that psycology can't cure anyone beyond the levels of all the other bogus treatments.

[billysue2]

@caketheory I saw your video and its rubbish like this one.Clinical psychs these days use only evidence based treatment.It has nothing to do with the alternative crap you mentioned.Of course theres a placebo in every treatment,that cannot be removed,but a treatment is bogus if its only placebo.If you do 8 yrs training and are using a evidence based method you deserve a wage way higher than someone with no education.I agree that psychiatry is lacking in evidence but not registered pyshologists.

[caketheory]

@billysue2 Evidence based treatment is open to fraud.

I did a video about it too where I explain how the first antipsychotic drug "Thorazine" was all about PR and marketing. But I see you already left a comment on that too.

[billysue2]

@caketheory real research is indeed open to fraud when drug companies fund them and this has happened.However,the scientific method is the only way to see if something works and thats what neuroscience is built upon,they are trying to be objective.Manipulation of data and results rarely occurs relative to the number of studies done .

[BMFstudiosNYC]

@billysue2 ...assuming all psychologists / therapists are good at their jobs? Consider this, you see a therapist for a symptom of depression but don't know the source. A therapist analyzes your life, asks how you feel but will often make you harp on something seen as bad that you didn't have a big problem with before. Being the only source identified, this will make you question things. Now you leave with new emotional problems you didn't have before all because you were LOOKING for an answer.

[scarred10]

@BMFstudiosNYC not everybody in any career is good at their jobs.If they are good theyll help you if want to get better but first you must engage.This lad is obviously mentally ill still.

[BMFstudiosNYC]

@scarred10 ...They will help you if you want to be helped. It's hard sometimes to get to the cause of an emotional issue when you can't be sure if what the therapist suggests is the underlying cause. If you have depression and not know why, you could say it's from alot of things but that may not be the real cause. It's hard to explain in limited words here but basically, the power of suggestion can cause you to see past experiences as bad when you analyze them too much even if they were minor.

[scarred10]

@BMFstudiosNYC CBT is a proven effective treatment for depression along with behavioural activation,they dont need to find the cause of depression to work.Im always wary of therapists looking for causes,often a waste of time when nobody knows what causes depression anyway.

[logoself]

But I like the psychologist I had for years. Psychology is not a science. But it can be an art form. Psychotherapy that is. If you wanted it or felt you needed it. I was suffering with severe abuse trauma and learned to grieve, grow, and individuate, to become truly independent. Perhaps with a bit more research you may change your mind. Read Rollo May, Carl Jung, Carl Rogers, and others in the lineage of depth psychology. It is a philosophy not the ultimate truth, a theory not a law.

[billysue2]

@logoself mother of jesus,psychology is of course a science,there have been university programs and multi million pound research going on for decades.Some schools of therapy have little or no evidence to back them up,freudian analysis would be an example but that is given little significance in college programs today.Contrarily,CBT is strongly supported by research.The delivery of the therapy is where art meets science,ability to empathise and adjust to the patient.

[draziom902]

psychiatry and psychology are two pseudoscience CULTS. psychiatrists smell like piss and feces and reek of bad hygiene. they bring disease on too innocent clean people. psychiatrists are yucky , filthy handicaps. psychiatrists are handicap, handicap, handicap, handicap, one eye look up and one eye look down, crooked eyes. handicap handicap, handicap, handicap. beedy eyez psychiatrists yucky poop.

[marsbarz]

Okay, to address your objection: "A hygienic enforcer officer", right? A psychological trick brought about by playing with words. That's what you say it is.

But what is a cleaner? Is it a person, or is it an object that performs some task? A janitor is simultaneously an object to be used and also a person. To the person who wants the floors of his office building kept clean, the janitor is nothing more than some object he throws money at. To that janitors family, he is the world.

[caketheory]

@marsbarz Hi Thanks for the comment but whats the point your trying to make?

[marsbarz]

@caketheory

well you know the cleaner trying to make himself out to be a hygienic enforcer officer and you objecting to it both have the same problem... you both want better treatment in the world in which you live... same problem i have, same problem a lot of people have, and also the same thing that everybody wants and has a right to

:P thats my point lol we all have the same problem

[duesexmachina100]

@marsbarz lol you cant be against phychology, you can be against phychiatry but not against phychology, there is a diffrence. Phychology is therapy, phychiatry is drugs

[marsbarz]

What's that? Oh yes, I love phytology. PHYTOLOGYYYYY!~~~

[duesexmachina100]

@marsbarz lol

[bpd1337]

Psychiatry and psychology are probably new ways of controlling our minds by Illuminati. I was hospitalized 3 years ago due to aggression and then diagnosed with borderline personality disorder which they told me is a very serious mental illness requiring long term farmacotherapy and psychotherapy. But I never entirely believed any doctors so I tried to find by myself what's wrong with me and it was only a fact that I tended to do things before analyzing consequences. Now I'm fine and healthy.

[duesexmachina100]

@bpd1337 your an idiot, phychiatry is freemasonry, phychology is therapy

[duesexmachina100]

@bpd1337 oh if you only understood how irritated the Illuminati and the Freemasons are with the arrogance and fear controlling the minds society, I too share that experience but I don't take it up with the highest authority beyond false psychology because in time that's realized to be suicide.

[kinkgut]

agreed there is no psychic networking connecting with any dysfunctional displacement 

[Kyouryuu5000]

Actually, many techniques of psychology such as "role playing" were practiced in Communist countries like China, especially under the rule of Mao Tse Tung.

[IcarusFlying]

Ya.. Change the word psychology with psychiatry and you hit the nail on the head.

There are credible fields in psychology and very twisted fields. You already know the bad side. I suggest you check out some of the good side at (ted com) so that you can recognize the difference. There is an equally twisted side of education. If you recognize it, Dumbing us down is a good book on it. by john taylor ghatto and

[duesexmachina100]

@IcarusFlying theres a diffrence beetween the two, dumbing down people is by saying both are complete idiocy. saying one is idiocy is a diffrent story.

[Kyouryuu5000]

Do not drink the Kool-Aid of psychology or psychiatry.

[the7thwreck]

great points.

[biporio]

I know what you talk about psychiatry, and makes me sad that people treat as the real thing someone who lies when they say some "mental illness" are caused by "chemical imbalance" without showing a single proof.

I just didn't understand what is the deal with the whole psychology thing, although I know there a lots of bad professionals . Laws, grammar, good sex, love, parenting, sports, are not science also, but I all this help us (well, at least is a nice try) have a better life.

[ivanaklaric]

they are just product of the system who wants us mindless drones without individuality - shrinks and co

[NefariousMrG]

It is understandable that you don't understand what the whole field of psychology entails, what isn't understandable is that you slather the whole field of psychology with a ludicrous charge based upon "a bad experience".

Allow me to explain:

You claim that psychology is not science, and you use this as your charge to attack the whole field. I wonder, though, if you can justify how ALL psychology is a fraud. Let's try a little experiment; explain to me how cognitive neuroscience is false. kgo

[caketheory]

Neuroscience is a fraud don't study it otherwise you'll be disappointed. They don't cure anyone only publish silly research papers.  Neuroscience is just like just like psychology and psychiatry, its there to "uphold and justify the capitalist mode of production."

[caketheory]

You take Prof Gemma Calvert (neuroscientist) she's working with big business in the marketing department finding new ways to sell products. They actually examine peoples brains while they watch different adverts so they can find ways of making better adverts and sell more products. Why doesn't she examine poeples brains who are working really hard on the minimum wage and then take her findings to improve peoples lives?

[NefariousMrG]

So are you telling me that the findings made in neuroscience are false?

Does that mean that there aren't neurotransmitters in our brain? There are no frontal lobes, no temporal lobes, no parietal lobes? You mean to tell me that fear isn't largely mediated by the amygdala in the temporal lobe? Does this mean that there is no such thing as aphasia? That all those people with aphasia are "just kidding"?

Whilst some people in psychology may be dodgy, it doesn't mean they all are!

[caketheory]

Ok if you said you wanted to be a neurosurgeon or neurologist, i would say "good on you". I haven't a problem with them because they deal with disease in the brain and nervous system.

I never said neurotransmitters didn't exist, of course they exist and so do the frontal libes etc. The problem I have is that neuroscience medicalises what should be social problems. Instead of looking at the social cause you guys look at it from a "biological behavioural" aspect which is crazy.

[NefariousMrG]

Ok, I know what you are trying to say, but you have to understand that you disagree with SOME aspects of how they diagnose patients. I say "some" as I'm pretty sure you aren't against the diagnosis of, as I mentioned before, aphasia. For those in here who don't know, aphasia occurs after damage to the brain resulting in difficulty speaking.

Further, you have to understand that neurologists and neurosurgeons get their jobs BECAUSE of neuroscience. Neuroscience is simply "science of the brain".

[caketheory]

Hi, I don't think its fair for you to talk about "aphasia" cus this is a neurological condition and all neuroscience does is amalgamates and blurs the line been medicine and real disease so then it becomes difficult to draw them appart. You know as well as me that neuroscience is primarily concerned with "understanding human thought, emotion, and behavior". Like I said on my other message you wouldn't catch a neurologist working in the marketing department of a business.

[caketheory]

Also to say that neurosurgeons and neurologists get their jobs because of neuroscience is ridiculous. 10 years ago nobody ever heard of the word "neuroscience". Now its everywhere and this might be because in the 1990's George W Bush pushed forward his idea called "Decade of the Brain" which was aimed at increasing brain research for societies ills. Thats why now there are so many neuroscientists around and neurosurgeons were doing fine before this event.

[umaineblackbear]

Do you understand the difference between a research degree (Ph.D.) and a medical degree? Neuroscientists do not claim to treat patients. Rather they look to further the existing body of scientific knowledge regarding the central nervous system, either via applied or pure research.

[caketheory]

Another problem is that psychiatrists like to use PET scans and fMRI scans to prove that mental illness has a biological cause. These scans are produced by neuroscientists and appear in promotional material used by psychiatry. Psychiatry has been doing research for over 200 years and still there is no proof of an illness. I'm not going to wait for Neuroscientists to do another 200 years of research because I don't believe the problem is in the BRAIN.

[nadaalleen]

excellent video. i agree with you on all of your points. what psychology and psychiatry are doing, is to create an easy to monitor, fixed mentality society that forces people into existing as pure work-machines...and most do not even complain. sad

[cdkeeton77]

What are your credentials? Where are all these claims against psychiatry and psychology coming from? Do you deal with mental illness in your own life? Honestly you sound like some ranting street preacher smacking his bible and condemning all of society. This sort of talk just fuels the paranoia. In the end there are still people out there who need the sort of help that these professionals provide.

[caketheory]

I don't have any "credentials" relating to mental health.

However credentials don't mean anything to me as people with credentials have provided no cure and no biological test for any mental illness.

I've experience mental illness first hand so I'm in a position to air my views as I've been through the system.

I don't think many people benefit from the help these "professionals" provide and if they do then Placebo would be why.

[caketheory]

Also I think the reason you've got so many mental health professionals providing so many different treatments is because "mental health care" has become an industry. Most manufacturing jobs have gone to China, the bubble has burst in the financial services sector so the "caring industry" provides jobs for loads of people. It provides jobs for psychiatrists, psychologists, hypnotherapists, CBT therapists, cummunity support workers, research assistants, university lectures and the list goes on.

[caketheory]

Not to mention the nursing staff in the mental homes, cleaners and cooking staff, administrators, printers to print all the psychiatric literature and theres probably many more.

This is why there is no cure, because if the patients got better where would all these people work??????

[caketheory]

Bit like the Church I guess, keep them stringing along with the promise of an eventual saviour,  who never comes, while the Church makes money and expands as people suffer.

[poloboyden]

Oh you've conveyed that all right but your points are totally unfounded and unrelated and uncoherent. I'm sorry, but without a deeper knowledge of what psychology is and the different beliefs each aspect of psychology holds, you won't be able to provide your viewers with an adequate arguement.

[bummerstinky]

What an arrogant view, here is a man talking about his personal experiance of a proccess and you discount him out of hand. I think that your approach is all wrong.

[poloboyden]

Unfortunately you have mentioned a wide array of different types of psychological work within this video. You have confused psychotherapy with science. Psychotherapists do not believe there is a scientific evidence behind the value of 'talking therapy'. Rather it is a way to release and explore feelings and the self. Nor do all psychotherapists explore childhood. They do not usually use CBT either. And you ALSO mentioned occupational psychologists - an entirely different profession I'm afraid!

[caketheory]

The point I was trying to make was that psychology, psychotherapy, psychoanalysis, CBT and any type of talking therapy is a load of rubbish.

If you look in the book called "A-Z Family Medical Encyclopedia" by the BMA which is available from most book shops is says under PSYCHOLOGY and I quote "the scientific study of mental processes." So what I wanted to convay in my video was that anything related to psychology, psychotheraphy etc was a load of rubbish.

[mikeybrumbrum]

I TOTALLY agree. This guy isnt mad, the bastards who claim they are helping him, ar e mad.

Did you knwo that Cannabis was banned in America because it was said to "Send white women mad, so they sleep with black men".

It was an actual disease, if a white woman wanted to sleep with a black man, and they banned cannabis because it made peopel that mad ! The law has not changed, as far as i am aware (America, this is).

But they locked HUNDREDS of thousands of peopel in mad houses !!!

[mikeybrumbrum]

Psychiatry is probably run by the types of public school boys who used to pick the wings off insects.

They enjoy studying and playing with living creatures, and the human is the ultimate goal.

The ones who like to steal money, work in banks, the ones who like using prostitutes join the police, and overall, the public school boys are in charge of all things whihc are used to torture us.

[deafamerican]

"we need to be aware that some psychologists abuse their clients. dr john gournaris of minnesota is one example. stay away from him. he is also on national deaf academy's advisory board. we have heard a lot of bad news about him. the community remains blind to his behaviors. we need to be more aware of mental health and providers."

[Christopher711]

I don't care for many aspects of the professions of psychotherapy and psychiatry. I do think that cognitive behavorial therapy is something that can be positive in someones' life. One thing I noticed at the university when they were giving evaluations of students was that if they didn't do well at math then they had a math disabilty. saqme with English or any other subject. Give me a break. If I am having trouble with math give me atutor not a diagnosis!

[DeimosSaturn]

I got a few questions and I'm not trying to antagonize you: Are you a Scientologist? If not, do you know that a lot of what you're saying sounds like Scientology anti-psychiatry rhetoric? Have you ever heard of Neuro Feedback? Now, I also, like you, believe there is very little science in psychology and psychiatry. I detest this attitude that taking drugs is the best solution to every psychological problem.

[caketheory]

Hi, I'm not a Scientologist, I don't like any religion. Your right alot of my points are similar to their rhetoric but thats because their rhetoric is based on "common sense". If my points are similar its just coincidence.

[caketheory]

Ref dakotajstorey - When black slaves wanted to run away during the slave trade people thought they suffered from a mental illness called "drapetomania". They couldn't understand why they wanted to leave because having slaves was considered totally normal. Today when people like myself who arn't free to goven ourselves are labelled "mentally ill" because modern day life is considered totally normal.

[caketheory]

Ref dakotajstorey- Psychologists could have changed society to meet my needs by going to govenment and implementing policies for social change. One thing they could have done was made more jobs in the civil service only available to people who find stressful environments devastating bypassing the job interview stage etc.

[dakotajstorey]

How on earth is a psychologist suppose to change society to meet your needs. moreover, why would they want to do that. they have a term for that.Communism.The shrink you talked to at your interview is referred to as an Industrial/ Organizational Psychologist, It's their job to pick the best people for the job.much like any imployer.they werent blaming you for being shy.I think youre selfish.dont blame people that you dont know about.not all psychologist are monsters.perhaps you need a new shrink

[dakotajstorey]

Psychology/Psychiatry is most definitely a science. How else would you explain the abnormalities in chemical production and nerve receptors that is depression? THAT'S SCIENCE! and furthermore, The mind is the most complex thing in the world. we have bearly begun to grasp its power. A psychologist has to analyze and correct habits that people have ran away with. Do you know how hard that is? Next i would like to talk about how you mentioned that you would like your shrink to stop blaming you.

[DemonosZXZ]

call them hygienic social personal informers, with a socialist elite agenda amongst there elite circle of friends, they are very authoratarian.

[lilwhsthug]

this is all so true. the psychiatry system makes things so complicated when trying to help peoples problems and illnesses, when they should be simplifying things and helping people see that there problems are just mainly within themselves and that ultimately they have the ability to change them. Medication should be like crutches to assist people in getting back to that normal state of mind.

[caketheory]

Maybe "OOOtwood" benefited from psychology but wouldn't it have been better to share your feeling with a close friend or partner? Also "psychology" nearly destoyed my life. They trap you in the past because alot of them are convinced that childhood events shape your personality. I call the psychologist "Little Miss Curious" because they don't go in to the profession with goal of curing mental illness, they go to feed their curiousity. Also men don't like gossiping about the past.

[000twood]

I really don't think psychology "counseling" tries to help people find the right environment & changes the patient wants to make in their lives. Talking to people isn't something therapist do for fun. People come to us and are reachng out for help. I have been & still am living on both sides of the coin, I have a mental illness and I am a counselor, certified drug counselor. The people I have been involved with aren't as you speak, I got help and my illness is as real as the shirt on your back.

[caketheory]

Ref:Luperri. There's nothing scientific about psychology. I haven't had any many bad experiences with any individual therapist its just I'm against the whole profession. I don't think its a proper job they just take advantage of people who are lonely and desperate by offering their time for a fee. For me their all charlatans and do more damage to the community than good. Its just so obvious that any benefits would be placebo and their no different than people who cure with magic crystals.

[mesufferer]

Psychology is very scientific in some ways and very unscientific in others. The 'pseudoscience' in psychology mostly derives from a stubborn adherence to Freud's theories of the unconscious to explain mental illness which are invoked too frequently when we don't really know what's going on, even with physical illnesses. As a psych student with ME I can share the criticism of those, no question.

[Luperri78]

I believe that surely you have seen some difficulties ... however you should certainly not condem psychology (thats way to broad). Instead find a different therapist if you did not suit the one you were with. Moreover your description using Freud is very flawed... this is not the spectrum either of psychology or for all therpists. I dont want to offend you, but cannot include all of psy in your rant! and individuals actions do not speak for all psychologists!

[terratagONE]

You make alot of sence i have never said i haven't had a mental breakdown myself but the treatment sometimes is worse that the illness.I just would like all people to think for themselfs.

[mnpap5]

Yeah! Your right! My syciatrist hasent helped me at all! If anything he has put me off going to his appointment's and made me fell even worse!