still the best vid of the entire 08 race. libertarians are cowards and liars. them electing Bob Barr as their leader is evidence of that.. a few of them understood and stood with him but most of them were loud mouth idiots with slogans and utopic visions that are only true in fairy tales.
@oldhacks A little bit of history that some over zealous dumbass posted on his youtube account thinking he was owning Gravel. Luckily I acquired it before he realized this and took it off his site.
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People talked about being on the same team. Yet they denied a man with integrity who was one of the few able to put aside his ego for what was needed to pull it off. Gravel was a fraud this election only in the sense that he was not a true politician when he ran for president. Apparently, people still want politicians to fool them and Gravel sure couldn't fool them.
Ron Paul gets coverage in the media for a reason, though part of the message is there he restrict you by telling you how far you can go. The truth is that the American people need to stop relying on one man to fix a corruption of goverment that numbers in the masses. Vote NI4D(dot)us because the people will always keep to their self interest and not the politicans self interest which is more money for them.
"The truth is that the American people need to stop relying on one man to fix a corruption of goverment that numbers in the masses."
Absolutely right, Ron Paul opened a lot of people's eyes, now it's up to us to do the rest. I'll try to check out that site when I get some more time.
I understand gravel. Game hasn´t been fair for him. in debates They didn´t give him as much time to speak as they did to other candidates etc, I would be pissed off also. America is one rotten country. And Americans just don´t get it.
This is why Gravel had no chance at getting a nomination. He is loud and obnoxious. He berates this man for trying to ask a question. When the poor guy finally gets his question out Gravel continues to yell and lends no useful advice. He had his heart in the right place though I only agreed with his general stances but he comes of as a grouch with little to back up his tantrums. He looked as bad in the debates. Too bad he could not learn how to present himself and his ideas more effectively.
Gravel didn't win the nominations because the majority of Americans are cowards who defend illegal unconstitutional actions taken by their government. This guy was trying to instigate a conversation with Gravel to put words into Gravel mouth. Gravel shut this idiot down. The instigator was the orginal poster of this video, if I didnt save this before he realised how stupid he looked and deleted it, this lil gem would have been lost forever.
He can still tell me in a way that appeals to people. Especially since the democracy he so loves is contingent on majority approval. Like I said he does not present his ideas effectively and can expect no progress as a result. How does he know what I "need" to hear, anyway?
You cant sugar coat and illegal war, you cant sugar coat over 1 million iraqy citzens dead. As long as your choose to pretend to be so fkn naive about what is going on ill continue to talk down to you. What you need to know is up to you, if you dont like it then leave.
It is not about sugar-coating anything but using a persuasive and rational, not emotional, argument. And how am I the naive one? I am the one pointing out that someone behaving such as Gravel has no chance of garnering enough support to usurp those pulling the global strings. Behaving like an ass makes it easier to paint all people with similar ideologies as raving mad and illogical. He hurts his cause and other's by acting in such an abrasive manner.
Nonesense your asking human beings to have no emotion in the face of tragity. To have no emotion is to PRETEND you dont know whats going on around you and appear to be logical during an illogical event that has killed over a million civallians. Your lack of emotion also exploits both your paralization imposed by fear, and your lack of honesty to yourself in hopes to decieve others.
What? Rationality is deceptive? You can have emotion but the proper time to show this emotion is not in the face of a question asker. To seek reasoned debate is to seek a persuasive argument; to seek to yell with passion is to seek to create a similar response in others. The latter is momentary and short lived; the former becomes stronger everyday. There is a reason academia frown on emotional debate. His cause will never gain support with a public face that is yelling at everyone.
they are all working toward one world government. even paul. you watch, he'll turn all the money he raised in this campaign over to the gop, who will use that money to continue to undermind our sovergnty and our social mindsets, and bend our collective will toward their ends through mass media brain washing.
Fuck Mike Gravel. This Bitch wants to impose a carbon tax on us and wants to have world government. And he is not a true fucking Libertarian. Gravel is a bitch.
Please,what's with all this BS of Ron Paul being a Nazi? Either tell us where to find the evidence or stop making accusations! Mike Gravel a Libertarian? Please,the party has been around since the early '70's and now he wants to be part of it? Mike is both a socialist and a globalist! Listen for yourselves,Watch the Google interview! He states that we all should have Health Care,who in the hell is going to pay for it??? He will never get the LP nomination! I have been with the LP for 25 years!
People need to learn how to face facts. Mike Gravel is a Libertarian and is running for President. Ron Paul is a Republican running for congress. Mike Gravel wants bush/cheney to be impeached and face warcrimes. Ron Paul doesn't think that bush/cheney should be impeached. I happen to agree with Mike Gravel judgement that Ron Paul might make a good Secretary of Defence.
I think it's amazing that the Mike Gravel supporters here are denigrating Ron Paul while Mike has come right out and stated that Global Governance is the way to go...to solve the worlds problems in other countries! (Burma/Myanmar) I used to like him until I watched the Google interview and he stated that (at the time 28:27 ) in the vid! Also he wants to continue the stranglehold that the US government has on the American people with the tax system! The Fair Tax...OMFG,you have got to be kidding!
That has to be either the most BS conclusion of Mike Gravels ideals or your as retarded as the guy Mike is coverstating with in this video. Learn the truth, follow the truth, deciet doesnt help any American.
THE TRUTH is that Mike has stated time and time again that WE ARE NOT READY FOR GLOBAL GOVERNANCE. SECOND TRUTH Ron Paul is a republican and Mike Gravel is a Libertarian get it right. THIRD TRUTH Ron Paul voted no to pass an impeachment bill for Bush, he was absent during the vote for HR1955, RP has 20 years of experience at playing it safe and kissing republican ass. Mike Gravel released the pentagon papers, faced prision time for doing so, ended the draft, all for the American people.
I am going to look into the two votes you cited...I look at it this way! You talk a lot of shit cause you don't want your sacred ox gored! I have been a Libertarian for 25 years and just re-registered Rep. last year so I could vote for Ron! Where in the hell has Mike been for the last 36 years...the time the LP has been in existence! Please don't tell me he didn't know about them? What about Andre Marreau? (DISTR?) He is doing anything to get elected...that's all! He is not a Libertarian!
Mike has a record of laws that he had passed in the senate when he was in that were libertarian, including releasing the pentagon papers. All Ron Paul has are swzatikas and brown shirts. Paul = NAZI
So does Ron Paul!!! Ron Paul wants a flat tax! What the hell are you talking about!?!! Mike Gravel wants a progressive sales tax and thats it. And Mike Gravel has said he'd abolish the IRS sytem of taxation since 1972
So here we go,once again,watch the Google interview with Mike! He clearly states that it is Global Governance (28:27)that we need to solve problems overseas! Quit whining and watch the vid! All I have to go on is what he says! He said it!!! Are you so dammed afraid to be proved wrong! Ron Paul does not want a Federal Tax of any sort! Listen to any of the debates and any interviews he has given! NO FEDERAL TAX! PERIOD! MIKE A LIBERTARIAN??? OMFG...FOR HOW LONG? 1 MONTH? I HAVE BEEN FOR 25 YEARS!
RE:seedikfcuk..Ron Paul?? to hell with ron paul hes just another lip service machine hes in congress now and doing two things, jack & shit! And his "health care plan"(lack of) is the worst yet, he refers to patients as "customers". Mike Gravel is the only one that has PROVEN his integrity !
The majority brought to power the greatest document ever written the Consititution. The minority rich one percent and the bankers set our policies, dont fool yourself thinking Pauls any different when he supports the Medicial Industral complex and corpratism... thats part of the rich that is screwing up this nation. The only solution will come from the people through supportive law like the NI4D, not one man who is subject to corruption.
Ironically RP supporters are largely unenlightened, ignorant sheeple that know little if anything about Mike Gravel. This moron, case in point. Mike Gravel came before Ron Paul, everything RP talks about MG has been talking about before RP was even in office. Thats fact, look it up. You cannot dispute facts about MG and you cannot deny the leadership, personal sacrifice and strength MG has proven. To do so would be the act of a fool. MG is possibly the bravest man ever to serve.
My brother, why do you call me a moron? I already said I'd vote for Mike if RP were not in it. Demockracy does not work. They enemy can influence the mob through the media.
That is impossible with the National Initiative enacted. Mike Gravel planned for every facet of NI4D and the media will have no influence on people's opinion because there will be a direct line from the government to the people. No room, need etc for anything in between and further they would call the media out on any sort of corrupt or misleading information given to the American people. In short the NI4D cuts off the voice of the media and strengthens and reinforces the voice of the people.
Hey, I like Mike. Let's embrace each other and become one. Doctor Paul is a good man. Mike Gravel is a good man. We all have our role to play here. These are the best 2 choices and I really respect Mike Gravel supporters. We are one.
What I mean by "I'd own Mike" is that no man owns me and I own no man. I am not a slave. I work for nobody but myself. Before I met Doctor Paul, I worked as a slave.
No slight to Mike, he is a man of character and I would vote for him if I thought he could beat Doctor Paul. He would be my 2nd choice now that Captain Crunch is out.
I like Mike Gravel, he is a man of character, he is my 2nd choice for president of the US; however, as an anarchist I do not believe in Demockracy. "Sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grandest biggest solutions." - NoFX I'm Republican where we don't give a damned what the rule of the mob says, we care about the individual and the rule of law. Mike is right about Doctor Paul, he is in a position to protest. So Mike's comments are true, but it is also true Dr. Paul is working.
Working on doing what? Talking about something and not doing anything... That's not leadership. Teach a college course don't run for president for christ sakes. Be a man be brave have the guts and courage to put your ass on the line for what you believe. THAT is what Mike Gravel has done the whole time and is doing every day. Personal sacrifice for what you believe. That's a leader and that is Mike Gravel. Personally I don't want some candy ass to talk about things and do nothing about it
The oligarchy controls us. Mike Gravel and Ron Paul are honest men. We are not the enemy. We are brothers and sisters.
I am an anarchist. I do not believe the mob has the authority to make decisions over me as long as I obey the rule of law, the US Constitution. I cannot put Mike ahead per association to Demockracy by his preferred label, but labels mean nothing to me so I would vote Mike if something happened to RP. Mike is Plan B. Embrace your brothers and sisters.
I dont see the need to hate on Ron Paul... Mike Gravel is a great leader and can prove it but Ron Paul didn't even want to run in the first place. He is a principled man that is true to his ideas and is trying to spread his message. I have never heard him say hes the best leader, he simply has truthful answers to questions no one will even touch on. Maybe Gravel would be a better leader, but dont hate, appreciate the fact that we have a democrat AND a republican fighting for the American people!
That is not fact or true. Mike Gravel has been talking about all of those things before RP was even in office. He even wrote a book about it, quoted in newspaper articles, mags etc. The biggest difference is Mike Gravel has an actual plan that will not only work but solve more problems than the FED and the IRS. It's just so funny how RP supporters know so little about MG. Marginalize and trivialize him just like the media. Yet, ironically, when the same happened to RP they're outraged.
Peace to Mike, but he believes in the rule of the mob, he is a Democrat. Republican's believe in the rule of law and the power of the individual. The media believes in lying to us, Mike is more popular than they say.
Mike believes in the rule of the majority, NOT the minority. AND further that doesn't even scratch the surface of what NI4D is all about. Do some research please and become fully aware of NI4D before you express your opinions on it. Here is a great interview with Mike Gravel... blogtalkradio com/oldhack
Mike believes in the rule of the majority, NOT the minority. AND further that doesn't even scratch the surface of what NI4D is all about. Do some research please and become fully aware of NI4D before you express your opinions on it. Here is a great interview with Mike Gravel... blogtalkradio com/oldhack listen at 45:30
I went there recently and he said he doesn't plan on running as an independant and that his loyalty is to the Republican Party. This information pretty much means that he will drop out of the race soon since he doesnt have the required deligates.
BTW, why are you Gravel supporters (and Gravel, too, I might add) so f-ing antagonistic? Is it any wonder you're so insular and can't build a coalition or movement?
I'm not going to defend ignorant comments made by the RP supporter, but why so bitter?
If you want to know why you're not doing as well, better to look IN THE MIRROR!
Gravel isn't running for President, anyway. He's running an issue, the NI4D (aka Athenian Democracy pt. II)
First of all asshole, he is running for Pres, second of all antogonistic???? You freaks go on everyones videos and spam Paul nonsense everytime. I even seen your nonsense on Aretha Videos. People have had enough of that crap. Grow up and a brain.
The supporter is obviously ill-informed (at best), but the poster's claim that Ron hasn't done anything is false.
Ron has spoken to power more times than I can count, and has introduced legislation to, among other things, end the war and restore our rights.
Does Gravel want Dr. Paul to re-read the Pentagon papers? Ron isn't privy to classified information. He has, however, quoted people in the media who have been in contact with whistleblowers like Hersh on the House floor!
So the obvious question: does he (Mike Gravel) run for Congress in 2010? Good thing running for Pres has done is he has a list and a base of people that would at least wish him well in that.
He's for fair/equal voting rights for the residents of Washington DC, that's why I mailed in my vote for him in the Arizona Dem Primary.
I am a Paul supporter. I also like Mike Gravel's views. I just wish he had more coverage and support. It's sad that the media paints the "Hillary vs. Barrack" picture all over the news. I'm sick of hearing about those 2! The media hardly even says anything about Edwards... Sad!
Well to me thats sad Silv, you should never compromise human rights, some things should never been compromised. As for Ron Promising giving states back power, that will never happen. Currently hes known for his voting record which doesnt get much support from his peers. If Ron intends to use the same broken system of government he'll get as much done as he has in congress.
If you research the Ni4d you will discover that you dont have to go through the broken govermental system to enact the Ni4d. Instead enough votes by the people will make it law under the same grounds as the consitution was given power through radification of the majority of its people.
Frnnk I speak the truth, the problem is people have a problem with that. And on a personal note I dont value your viewpoint enough to consider anyone of your suggestions. Thanks for the laugh =D
I believe that the people can fix corrupt goverment with the NI4D, while you on the other hand ride Ron Pauls kok praying he will save you. I ask you whos the bitch?
And NI4D needs to pass through that corrupt government to be implemented and they won't even let your candidate on the ballot in some states. Nevada for starters.
Sounds to me like the corrupt government is making you (all of us, but right now you specifically) its bitch. =P
Are you completely nuts? Gravel owns Ron Paul Supporter? lol. you bastards are nuts, this guy made a tupac video where tupac supports mike gravel, when it's obvious he supports ron paul. anyone who wants mike gravel for president should just go sell their home, buy a gun, and blow their own brains out.
No you get real, because Ron Paul has scammed freaks like you out of millions of dollars to promote is nazi propoganda. Like Mike says in this video what is Ron Paul doing right now to investigate or end govt secretsy against citizens. And you attempts are failing because folk are sick of you spamming and bombarding them with Paul slogans.
Well it seemed to be the right thing to write at that time...but then...yes, I had second thoughts and realized that what ever happens, at least some truth was heard and it's not only by Ron Paul. I am sorry.
don't apologize. Ron Paul is doing everything he can. He blows the whistle on REAL issues. Mike Gravel would be better off exposing the green irish midget at the end of a rainbow. Gravel supports the SALES TAX and other fair tax reforms which will be just as bad as the income tax he seeks to abolish. He's a backwards behemoth of retardism. This mans record bitch slaps itself. lol. BOOOO!
Anacharist society which Paul advocates for will always fail. Ron Paul should go back to the KKK where he belongs. His lies have been exposed, The Ron Paul Freedom Report with his picture, signature and hateful comments are out. The gig is up and you should demand your money back. Gravel has smart sound responsible policies. Paul is a Freak that wants a white christian nation. SLAP ON HIM!
mmmm. i like how your arguments are just as realistic as mike gravels chances for winning. a mike gravel supporter is about as rare as a chinese man in a popular porno.
You'd be better off screaming halleluja and jumping off a bridge with no bunjee cord . that's the tax reform gravel's giving you. HAAAAA!!!!!
And all Ron Paul has done is make up a bunch of bullshit conspiracy theories from One world govt, to the Fed, to MLK is a Marxist and a sex fiend, to gays spreads AIDS, to Al Sharpton trying to turn NYC into welfare town. OH YEAH a real fighter huh. Let me know when Paul reads a set of Pentagon papers in front of congress. LOL. Paul is a loser.
are you serious? you see.. the only thing we have in common is a love for tupac. your lies and bias and .... more than likely, learning disability prohibits you from seeing that ron paul is the only candidate proposing real reform to save black america. as well as white america. less government,means more money, more security, more freedom. make your choice. with you, i'm sure it'll be the wrong 1
Oh and you speak for black america. A young white Paul Freak is going to lecture black america about what is good for them. The best thing Paul could do is drop dead. He is a waste of time. A lying Nazi, and a two faced hypocrit. Frnnk, drop the nn and add ea for FREAK!!
i'm black, and the last joke was WEAAAAK. lol. you know my jokes were funny as hell. on a more serious note. I ...really and truly don't support throwing insults around. that's for a hillary or romney supporter. we're all energized for our candidate, and that's a good thing. I've never seen this type of energy in my lifetime. It should be amazing to see how this turns out.
What joke?? I was dead serious. And I believe your as black as Ron Paul which is not at all, except his heart. And even if you are, you dont speak for all black people, just because you are stupid enough to fall for his lies doesnt mean all black people are. You are pathetic. You support a NAZI.
Truthout911 what are you talking about? You are completely misinformed on all of these statements you type up. Seriously, educate yourself..I dont even know you but damn you come of as a total jackass!
Seriously educate yourself. Just do a cursory google search. "Ron Paul White Supremist" and see how many hits you get. Another Paul Freak who dranked to koolaid.
NO SWEETIE, you need to educate yourself. What a fucking retard you are. Those claims have been discredited for so long now. Not to mention how Paul is supported by many African American organizations. DUMBASS. youre ignorance is hillarious.
NO YOURSELF SWEETIE, I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK, apparently you are still drunk on the Paul koolaid. The claims stand as they are. NAME YOUR SO CALLED GHOST and NAME THE BLACK ORGS, THAT SUPPORT HIM. NOT ONE DOES. And dont give me crap about one black mans comment for the NAACP, he no more speaks for all blacks, than Jesse Jackson. You are so full of shit.
You've done NO homework. haha you're so stupid its funny. Those claims have all been discredited by every reputable news organization. And by the way retard, the ghost writer is believed to be Lew Rockwell. Ron Paul shows the most respect towards all of his opponents in the race, its absurd to think that someone of his character would ever write such things. All the intelligent human beings have realized this. Woopsie thats not you! Nelson Linder chap. president (NAACP) think Paul is a hero.
OH like CNN, LOL LOL. Lew Rockwell did not come forward. FACE RON PAUL IS A RACIST NAZI. Everyone knows it, which goes to show that not all people are as stupid as you PAUL FREAKS. You are not winning anyone over to voting for a racist NAZI. Deal with it.
Go to my favorites, look under 21-40 videos, see the AlanFlanders video entitled "Mike Gravel cant do nothing".
OH SNAP ANOTHER RON PAUL SUPPORTER PWNED AGAIN! THE PROOF IS THERE REGUARDLESS HOW MUCH YOU WISH IT WOULD GO AWAY, THE SAME GOES FOR RON PAUL BEING A RACIST!
I like Gravel but I think you are missing the point. I agree with everything Gravel said here...Gravel isn't even against Ron Paul. There's no proof RP is a "racist", and that's such a media smear job cheap shot. the NYT admitted it was a BS piece. I find it unfortunate people are so susceptable to media trickery.
Thanks to Jane. Good luck to you and your candidate.
What's Gravel's idea on the second amendment? I heard he thinks people should be given licensing for guns? Does he think this should be implemented on a state or federal level?
i like how you discredit yourself by attacking ron paul supporters when they basically stand for the exact same things when it comes to foreign policy and a sound market (abolishing the income tax and irs, anyway)
difference is, one stands for a party that is traditionally psycho, and the other for the party that is sane. I don't like your bullshit smears. all your videos suck. get a real camera.
Basically the dumbass RP supporter is asking Mike Gravel to do the work that Ron Paul should be doing in Congress. For some reason this guy cant get it through his head that Mike Gravel has been out of Government for 20 years. Then again it took him one month to realise how much of an idiot he looked like before he took down his own video, which happens to be this one.
Theres no "racist closet" for him to come out of if he isnt racist. Ever think of that? Also I saw the video but it cuts the end of the interview. watch?v=pLUmfZWIZsc
That shows the whole interview and he explains what people like you are doing.
What is it that im doing? Spreading the truth? They're Ron Pauls racists comments coming from his OWN newsletter... Am I supposed to believe he didnt write them? Every paper as a editor, chief editor, someone who checks the content of all information written, its hard to believe he doesnt support these views unless he fired his staff every print edition.
I agree that this issue is very important to some to be able to trust him. Though the problem is we both dont really know him personaly. Even if he did list names I think some people will still consider him racist. Sometimes when something bad happens under your name it can scar your reputation even if you honestly didnt do it. Its a difficult situation. Im going to just write him letters and see if hes willing to atleast talk about the staff who wrote about it.
Yes please ask why articals like that were able to get "clearance" by the checks and balances of his editorial staff, and if he didnt share the same views why were statements like that allowed to be printed mutiple times, throughout this newsletter. Racism should never be taken lightly especially when that person wishes to eliminate all programs that have brought some progress to the equality of people of America.
Racism doesnt bring equality. By the way what did Ron Paul say? Did he have to fire his whole staff each time he printed his trash hes too afraid to take credit?
Of ALL the current members of Congress, Ron Paul is the most outspoken on issues of liberty and calling people to the carpet on unconstitutional gov't abuses. Often he is the lone vote against bad policy, occasionally with Kucinich. It's ludicrous to call Dr. Paul out like this--he should be Gravel's favorite Republican. BTW anybody notice that Tony "Play Ball" Blair just picked up a million $ job with JP Morgan?...
I strongly disagree with chan, Paul doesn't do enough with the power he has. Paul has access to information the public doesnt and he could make that information public thanks to the fact Mike Gravel risked going to prison for the betterment of our system. Money doesnt equal leadership as well as saying the word consitution doesnt equal a patriot. If the stateing the truth means butting heads then so be it.
Thank you for being polite. That's all I really ask.
I don't know what he has access too. I do know that some of the things he has stated are things that have gotten him in trouble (even though they are the truth) and that takes backbone. And I respect backbone. Gravel has more of it, which means I do respect the ever loving shit out of the guy. I just agree more with Paul's policies.
Just quit trolling, kyeot doesnt need your help in explaining himself. You just make 'not' supporting Ron Paul look bad. I would eagerly listen other views that argue against his position to see if its something I should be concerned about. Though the way you express yourself makes me and other irritable. Goodjob.
I will say whatever I want. If you like it tough. What I have said is the truth. You Paul Freaks stop spamming and invading videos with your nonsense. The only thing you have succeeded in doing is pissing people off.
Stop exagerating, you act like if every Paul supporter does that. Everything you said is outdated information and only managed to prove youre a jerk. Btw you wrote that incorrectly, its "If you dont like it, tough". I am for freedom of speech but people like you abuse it for some personal gain, like enjoying upsetting other people.
If you honestly feel that Ron Paul isnt a good candidate or wouldnt be good for the country then try saying it without being disrespectful. Most people are glad to listen and discuss, but you only provoke arguements.
No the information proves that I am right. Doesnt matter how old the information is. And check out the new video "oldhacks" has out exposing even more of his racist garbage. Yes Paul is a Fraud, a liar, and a NAZI.
I'll go look up his videos to see if hes got something new but from what I know already (ive seen oldhacks comments/videos before) its basicly the same thing youve been talking about. Earmarks, donations from racists, and the one article from the 90s I believe. Most of those things have already been discussed by Paul on the media.
Thats all you have to say? You have no arguement? You have no proof, no evidence, no links? No videos no anything? You depend on some guy who edits nazi flags onto ron pauls pictures? Good going truthout, im tired of arguing with a child like you who can do nothing but call people delusion or freaks and no realizing that you live in your own fantasy.
The arguement has been made over and over again, but you so far gone, there is no reaching you. No one is home mentally. Again you are as sick as the Paul Freaks who chased Hannity in the parking lot. Gravel supporters have much better since than this.
Far gone? I simply said that he is not racist. You insist that he is and im asking why and youve yet to explain the facts. Btw hannity? stop changing the subject bringing up comparisons from loon supporters that have nothing to do with Ron Paul himself. Hannity is a troll baiter anyways like you, thats why im gonnan end this conversation. Try growing up.
Id like to see an article or a video about it though. Not just oldhacks videos. When you find it post a link on my comments and Ill check it out and find out. I'd atleast want to see for myself and not just take your word on it so hastily. To busy to be on here constantly sorry so please leave the message there.
Is that your response? I asked you to give me a link so I can try to believe you and you insult me acting like I have a mental condition? You've proven to be nothing more than alittle internet bully. Good going asshole, you just had a chance to atleast try to give me some proof.
This is a video on Gravel talking to some guy. I asked you to give me the link and you wont. Youre just saying "theres proof" with out showing me. Ive even given you the benefit of a doubt and see if youre right. You havent shown anything. You dont know me, I was grew up mostly in this country, with good education. Im a good individual and I work like everyone else. Im not a disrespectful like you. Now show me the links or stop replying bceause youre proving that youre nothing but an asshole.
I did google it, and i have checked that out long before our conversation. I even explained the links that I saw. Thats not enough you cant just make me google it, you have to specify because its just abunch of blogs. Come on, and please read what I say.
RACIST AND A LIAR. Sorry that you are too far gone. But Paul is done for. This kind of crap killed David Duke's campaign in 1992. You people are trying to present a fraud.
And all you can do is call people you dont know nazi, I do not support nor sympathise with nazis. But I guess thats all you can do, call people Nazi. If you call ME a nazi then obviously for you to call Ron Paul a nazi no longer has merit. Congratulations you totaly proved you've made up bullshit.
I believe in calling a spade a spade, and since you find nothing wrong with the filth Paul supports, hence makes you at least a nazi support, but listening to your reasoning, Im convinced that you are a NAZI.
Youre not listening to what im saying. Its not that Im not seeing it something as wrong or right, its the fact that Im seeing no connection with paul and racists other than he got donations and one article which he already discussed about. you are simply changing up the wording of the arguement to make me look bad. There are no connections with Paul and nazis and you havent shown me any except bad blogs.
I dont care about your babble on how you think Ron Paul is your savior. You made yourself look bad and stupid. Are we to believe that a news letter that bares his name, that he never read any of the content that was in it or he doesnt remember who worked for him. Its a newletter not the New York Time. Typical rep dodge. The fact the MSM is lazy in finding this out, shame on them. I simply went online months ago and found it out. Whats their problem.
Lol since when did I say Paul is my savior? Where? Which Comment. Sorry but you made yourself look idiotic. And the rest that you said is pretty much nonsense. You simply hate republicans, want free health care as if its a right and you call everyone who doesnt agree with you a nazi. Good going :>
That fact you keep coming back with more nonsense just goes to show how much of an idiot you are. Yes you think Paul is your version of Christ. As far as hating repubs, I dont affiliate with any party and you might know that if you read my other post. Now Ron Paul = Nazi.
Truthout gave up arguing and is only calling me Nazi though doesnt know that I am against that. Just look at his comments, all he does is spam SHUTUP YOUR NAZI *IGNORES DEBATES AND NAME CALLS*. Yeah youre doing a good job. I can do this all day and night, it just makes you look dumber every comment.
still the best vid of the entire 08 race. libertarians are cowards and liars. them electing Bob Barr as their leader is evidence of that.. a few of them understood and stood with him but most of them were loud mouth idiots with slogans and utopic visions that are only true in fairy tales.
oldhacks 1 year ago
@oldhacks A little bit of history that some over zealous dumbass posted on his youtube account thinking he was owning Gravel. Luckily I acquired it before he realized this and took it off his site.
kyeot 1 year ago
@kyeot they were all wearing blinders. so tragic. ILIKEMIKE tv.. watch that shit.
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affluenceclm 1 year ago
I would get rid of the president and Senate...
I hate the government...
sgsfdgfsdfsdfsddf 2 years ago
Gravel is awesome.
edwinro77 3 years ago
People talked about being on the same team. Yet they denied a man with integrity who was one of the few able to put aside his ego for what was needed to pull it off. Gravel was a fraud this election only in the sense that he was not a true politician when he ran for president. Apparently, people still want politicians to fool them and Gravel sure couldn't fool them.
ChannelMikeG 3 years ago
I see that SlayerNAZI is up to his old tricks again. I told that Nazi sometime ago, to just disappear. No one would miss him.
truthout911 3 years ago
Yeah different day same old BS of him trying to sugarcoat the war.
kyeot 3 years ago
He is also an anarchist prick who believes that child pornography should be legal, much like LP pres candidate Mary Ruwart.
truthout911 3 years ago
Well, Gravel doesn't get elected, he gets walked all over by the media cause he won't play their game.
Ron Paul at least got enough airtime to tell Americans to WAKE UP and defend their rights.
Ron Paul votes the right way in Congress, and raises awareness.
Whether or not that's enough for Mike is a personal issue, I know it's a hell of a lot more than any other member of Congress is doing.
That being said, we should be on the same team here, not arguing technicalities. ;P
Freethought42 3 years ago
Ron Paul gets coverage in the media for a reason, though part of the message is there he restrict you by telling you how far you can go. The truth is that the American people need to stop relying on one man to fix a corruption of goverment that numbers in the masses. Vote NI4D(dot)us because the people will always keep to their self interest and not the politicans self interest which is more money for them.
kyeot 3 years ago
"The truth is that the American people need to stop relying on one man to fix a corruption of goverment that numbers in the masses."
Absolutely right, Ron Paul opened a lot of people's eyes, now it's up to us to do the rest. I'll try to check out that site when I get some more time.
Freethought42 3 years ago
I understand gravel. Game hasn´t been fair for him. in debates They didn´t give him as much time to speak as they did to other candidates etc, I would be pissed off also. America is one rotten country. And Americans just don´t get it.
jugi814 3 years ago
This is why Gravel had no chance at getting a nomination. He is loud and obnoxious. He berates this man for trying to ask a question. When the poor guy finally gets his question out Gravel continues to yell and lends no useful advice. He had his heart in the right place though I only agreed with his general stances but he comes of as a grouch with little to back up his tantrums. He looked as bad in the debates. Too bad he could not learn how to present himself and his ideas more effectively.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
Gravel didn't win the nominations because the majority of Americans are cowards who defend illegal unconstitutional actions taken by their government. This guy was trying to instigate a conversation with Gravel to put words into Gravel mouth. Gravel shut this idiot down. The instigator was the orginal poster of this video, if I didnt save this before he realised how stupid he looked and deleted it, this lil gem would have been lost forever.
kyeot 3 years ago
Glad to see you have the same tact and charm Gravel does.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
A quote from Gravel, "im not going to tell you what you want to hear, im going to tell you what you need to know."
kyeot 3 years ago
He can still tell me in a way that appeals to people. Especially since the democracy he so loves is contingent on majority approval. Like I said he does not present his ideas effectively and can expect no progress as a result. How does he know what I "need" to hear, anyway?
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
You cant sugar coat and illegal war, you cant sugar coat over 1 million iraqy citzens dead. As long as your choose to pretend to be so fkn naive about what is going on ill continue to talk down to you. What you need to know is up to you, if you dont like it then leave.
kyeot 3 years ago
It is not about sugar-coating anything but using a persuasive and rational, not emotional, argument. And how am I the naive one? I am the one pointing out that someone behaving such as Gravel has no chance of garnering enough support to usurp those pulling the global strings. Behaving like an ass makes it easier to paint all people with similar ideologies as raving mad and illogical. He hurts his cause and other's by acting in such an abrasive manner.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
Nonesense your asking human beings to have no emotion in the face of tragity. To have no emotion is to PRETEND you dont know whats going on around you and appear to be logical during an illogical event that has killed over a million civallians. Your lack of emotion also exploits both your paralization imposed by fear, and your lack of honesty to yourself in hopes to decieve others.
kyeot 3 years ago
What? Rationality is deceptive? You can have emotion but the proper time to show this emotion is not in the face of a question asker. To seek reasoned debate is to seek a persuasive argument; to seek to yell with passion is to seek to create a similar response in others. The latter is momentary and short lived; the former becomes stronger everyday. There is a reason academia frown on emotional debate. His cause will never gain support with a public face that is yelling at everyone.
SSSLLLAAYYEEERRRR 3 years ago
where's obama girl?
coolmgb 3 years ago
they are all working toward one world government. even paul. you watch, he'll turn all the money he raised in this campaign over to the gop, who will use that money to continue to undermind our sovergnty and our social mindsets, and bend our collective will toward their ends through mass media brain washing.
darththc 3 years ago
Fuck Mike Gravel. This Bitch wants to impose a carbon tax on us and wants to have world government. And he is not a true fucking Libertarian. Gravel is a bitch.
FuriousCyclone 3 years ago
Fuck you blind dumbass, you deserve every lil bit of whats coming for you.
kyeot 3 years ago
Please,what's with all this BS of Ron Paul being a Nazi? Either tell us where to find the evidence or stop making accusations! Mike Gravel a Libertarian? Please,the party has been around since the early '70's and now he wants to be part of it? Mike is both a socialist and a globalist! Listen for yourselves,Watch the Google interview! He states that we all should have Health Care,who in the hell is going to pay for it??? He will never get the LP nomination! I have been with the LP for 25 years!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
People need to learn how to face facts. Mike Gravel is a Libertarian and is running for President. Ron Paul is a Republican running for congress. Mike Gravel wants bush/cheney to be impeached and face warcrimes. Ron Paul doesn't think that bush/cheney should be impeached. I happen to agree with Mike Gravel judgement that Ron Paul might make a good Secretary of Defence.
kyeot 3 years ago
I think it's amazing that the Mike Gravel supporters here are denigrating Ron Paul while Mike has come right out and stated that Global Governance is the way to go...to solve the worlds problems in other countries! (Burma/Myanmar) I used to like him until I watched the Google interview and he stated that (at the time 28:27 ) in the vid! Also he wants to continue the stranglehold that the US government has on the American people with the tax system! The Fair Tax...OMFG,you have got to be kidding!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
That has to be either the most BS conclusion of Mike Gravels ideals or your as retarded as the guy Mike is coverstating with in this video. Learn the truth, follow the truth, deciet doesnt help any American.
kyeot 3 years ago
His words...not mine! Watch the vids then then run your mouth! What the fuck is with all the name calling when you won't even look for yourself!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
Oh...I almost forgot...next your telling me that Mike is a die hard Libertarian! Yeah...right!!!!
The one thing I have learned in politics...these assholes always say one thing and then do whatever they want once elected!
I think you ought to follow your own advice!
Ron has the 20 year voting record to back up all he has said!
Mike says these things and now he is a Libertarian!
I think not!
Open YOUR eyes!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
THE TRUTH is that Mike has stated time and time again that WE ARE NOT READY FOR GLOBAL GOVERNANCE. SECOND TRUTH Ron Paul is a republican and Mike Gravel is a Libertarian get it right. THIRD TRUTH Ron Paul voted no to pass an impeachment bill for Bush, he was absent during the vote for HR1955, RP has 20 years of experience at playing it safe and kissing republican ass. Mike Gravel released the pentagon papers, faced prision time for doing so, ended the draft, all for the American people.
kyeot 3 years ago
I am going to look into the two votes you cited...I look at it this way! You talk a lot of shit cause you don't want your sacred ox gored! I have been a Libertarian for 25 years and just re-registered Rep. last year so I could vote for Ron! Where in the hell has Mike been for the last 36 years...the time the LP has been in existence! Please don't tell me he didn't know about them? What about Andre Marreau? (DISTR?) He is doing anything to get elected...that's all! He is not a Libertarian!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
Mike has a record of laws that he had passed in the senate when he was in that were libertarian, including releasing the pentagon papers. All Ron Paul has are swzatikas and brown shirts. Paul = NAZI
truthout911 3 years ago
You are a NAZI, who supports NAZI candidates.
truthout911 3 years ago
So does Ron Paul!!! Ron Paul wants a flat tax! What the hell are you talking about!?!! Mike Gravel wants a progressive sales tax and thats it. And Mike Gravel has said he'd abolish the IRS sytem of taxation since 1972
seedikfcuk 3 years ago
So here we go,once again,watch the Google interview with Mike! He clearly states that it is Global Governance (28:27)that we need to solve problems overseas! Quit whining and watch the vid! All I have to go on is what he says! He said it!!! Are you so dammed afraid to be proved wrong! Ron Paul does not want a Federal Tax of any sort! Listen to any of the debates and any interviews he has given! NO FEDERAL TAX! PERIOD! MIKE A LIBERTARIAN??? OMFG...FOR HOW LONG? 1 MONTH? I HAVE BEEN FOR 25 YEARS!
countrysamurai 3 years ago
RE:seedikfcuk..Ron Paul?? to hell with ron paul hes just another lip service machine hes in congress now and doing two things, jack & shit! And his "health care plan"(lack of) is the worst yet, he refers to patients as "customers". Mike Gravel is the only one that has PROVEN his integrity !
rudican 3 years ago
The majority brought to power the greatest document ever written the Consititution. The minority rich one percent and the bankers set our policies, dont fool yourself thinking Pauls any different when he supports the Medicial Industral complex and corpratism... thats part of the rich that is screwing up this nation. The only solution will come from the people through supportive law like the NI4D, not one man who is subject to corruption.
kyeot 4 years ago
Ironically RP supporters are largely unenlightened, ignorant sheeple that know little if anything about Mike Gravel. This moron, case in point. Mike Gravel came before Ron Paul, everything RP talks about MG has been talking about before RP was even in office. Thats fact, look it up. You cannot dispute facts about MG and you cannot deny the leadership, personal sacrifice and strength MG has proven. To do so would be the act of a fool. MG is possibly the bravest man ever to serve.
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
My brother, why do you call me a moron? I already said I'd vote for Mike if RP were not in it. Demockracy does not work. They enemy can influence the mob through the media.
wasuretta 4 years ago
wasuretta I was talking about this guy in the video not you.
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
That is impossible with the National Initiative enacted. Mike Gravel planned for every facet of NI4D and the media will have no influence on people's opinion because there will be a direct line from the government to the people. No room, need etc for anything in between and further they would call the media out on any sort of corrupt or misleading information given to the American people. In short the NI4D cuts off the voice of the media and strengthens and reinforces the voice of the people.
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
Hey, I like Mike. Let's embrace each other and become one. Doctor Paul is a good man. Mike Gravel is a good man. We all have our role to play here. These are the best 2 choices and I really respect Mike Gravel supporters. We are one.
What I mean by "I'd own Mike" is that no man owns me and I own no man. I am not a slave. I work for nobody but myself. Before I met Doctor Paul, I worked as a slave.
wasuretta 4 years ago
Can someone brief Doctor Paul on this plan?
wasuretta 4 years ago
I'm sure I'd own Mike Gravel. Please introduce. I support Ron Paul.
"This is Plato's man!"
Diogenes of Sinope
wasuretta 4 years ago
No slight to Mike, he is a man of character and I would vote for him if I thought he could beat Doctor Paul. He would be my 2nd choice now that Captain Crunch is out.
wasuretta 4 years ago
what?
kyeot 4 years ago
I like Mike Gravel, he is a man of character, he is my 2nd choice for president of the US; however, as an anarchist I do not believe in Demockracy. "Sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the grandest biggest solutions." - NoFX I'm Republican where we don't give a damned what the rule of the mob says, we care about the individual and the rule of law. Mike is right about Doctor Paul, he is in a position to protest. So Mike's comments are true, but it is also true Dr. Paul is working.
wasuretta 4 years ago
Working on doing what? Talking about something and not doing anything... That's not leadership. Teach a college course don't run for president for christ sakes. Be a man be brave have the guts and courage to put your ass on the line for what you believe. THAT is what Mike Gravel has done the whole time and is doing every day. Personal sacrifice for what you believe. That's a leader and that is Mike Gravel. Personally I don't want some candy ass to talk about things and do nothing about it
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
Delivering 4,000 babies for starters.
wasuretta 4 years ago
Hi Damian,
The oligarchy controls us. Mike Gravel and Ron Paul are honest men. We are not the enemy. We are brothers and sisters.
I am an anarchist. I do not believe the mob has the authority to make decisions over me as long as I obey the rule of law, the US Constitution. I cannot put Mike ahead per association to Demockracy by his preferred label, but labels mean nothing to me so I would vote Mike if something happened to RP. Mike is Plan B. Embrace your brothers and sisters.
wasuretta 4 years ago
I dont see the need to hate on Ron Paul... Mike Gravel is a great leader and can prove it but Ron Paul didn't even want to run in the first place. He is a principled man that is true to his ideas and is trying to spread his message. I have never heard him say hes the best leader, he simply has truthful answers to questions no one will even touch on. Maybe Gravel would be a better leader, but dont hate, appreciate the fact that we have a democrat AND a republican fighting for the American people!
happydunce 4 years ago
That is not fact or true. Mike Gravel has been talking about all of those things before RP was even in office. He even wrote a book about it, quoted in newspaper articles, mags etc. The biggest difference is Mike Gravel has an actual plan that will not only work but solve more problems than the FED and the IRS. It's just so funny how RP supporters know so little about MG. Marginalize and trivialize him just like the media. Yet, ironically, when the same happened to RP they're outraged.
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
Peace to Mike, but he believes in the rule of the mob, he is a Democrat. Republican's believe in the rule of law and the power of the individual. The media believes in lying to us, Mike is more popular than they say.
wasuretta 4 years ago
Mike believes in the rule of the majority, NOT the minority. AND further that doesn't even scratch the surface of what NI4D is all about. Do some research please and become fully aware of NI4D before you express your opinions on it. Here is a great interview with Mike Gravel... blogtalkradio com/oldhack
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
Mike believes in the rule of the majority, NOT the minority. AND further that doesn't even scratch the surface of what NI4D is all about. Do some research please and become fully aware of NI4D before you express your opinions on it. Here is a great interview with Mike Gravel... blogtalkradio com/oldhack listen at 45:30
damianpaonejazz 4 years ago
Sometimes the smallest softest voice carries the biggest grandest solution.
wasuretta 4 years ago
Like Mike Gravel yes I agree. Soft from being stifled by everyone in this country
seedikfcuk 3 years ago
"Ron Paul won't bring any change" -- Senator Gravel.
He still never backed up that comment that he made.
FlashVirus 4 years ago
"If they cant do anything when they're in Congress, then don't think thier going to do something when they get elected."
kyeot 4 years ago
Wrong. Congress can't filibuster. The filibuster grants HUGE power to someone. Only people in the Senate can filibuster.
stealthswimmer 4 years ago
The comment inherently backs itself up, because Paul is not going to work outside the current system's framework, nor is he striving to.
THAT's why he won't bring change. He'll just act like it's 1912.
PeaceCzar 4 years ago 2
MIKE GRAVEL FOR PRESIDENT!!!
TwistedSister19 4 years ago 4
Ron Paul is soon to drop out, support someone who will do something when there elected President. Vote Mike Gravel !
kyeot 4 years ago
He isn't planning on dropping out anytime soon, visit Ron Paul's website.
chrisclan1903 4 years ago
I went there recently and he said he doesn't plan on running as an independant and that his loyalty is to the Republican Party. This information pretty much means that he will drop out of the race soon since he doesnt have the required deligates.
kyeot 4 years ago
NO it does not mean that he's dropping out. He's said that so long as the support is growing and they want him to continue, that he'll continue.
The Ron Paul supporter in this vid is a little off from the facts though,lol.
stealthswimmer 4 years ago
BTW, why are you Gravel supporters (and Gravel, too, I might add) so f-ing antagonistic? Is it any wonder you're so insular and can't build a coalition or movement?
I'm not going to defend ignorant comments made by the RP supporter, but why so bitter?
If you want to know why you're not doing as well, better to look IN THE MIRROR!
Gravel isn't running for President, anyway. He's running an issue, the NI4D (aka Athenian Democracy pt. II)
sanarkhos 4 years ago
First of all asshole, he is running for Pres, second of all antogonistic???? You freaks go on everyones videos and spam Paul nonsense everytime. I even seen your nonsense on Aretha Videos. People have had enough of that crap. Grow up and a brain.
truthout911 4 years ago
The supporter is obviously ill-informed (at best), but the poster's claim that Ron hasn't done anything is false.
Ron has spoken to power more times than I can count, and has introduced legislation to, among other things, end the war and restore our rights.
Does Gravel want Dr. Paul to re-read the Pentagon papers? Ron isn't privy to classified information. He has, however, quoted people in the media who have been in contact with whistleblowers like Hersh on the House floor!
sanarkhos 4 years ago
YES! I'm watching a YouTube video inside a YouTube video! YES!
theperfectcraft 4 years ago 2
So the obvious question: does he (Mike Gravel) run for Congress in 2010? Good thing running for Pres has done is he has a list and a base of people that would at least wish him well in that.
He's for fair/equal voting rights for the residents of Washington DC, that's why I mailed in my vote for him in the Arizona Dem Primary.
daveyork0 4 years ago
I am a Paul supporter. I also like Mike Gravel's views. I just wish he had more coverage and support. It's sad that the media paints the "Hillary vs. Barrack" picture all over the news. I'm sick of hearing about those 2! The media hardly even says anything about Edwards... Sad!
sbeutler 4 years ago 2
Chris Dodd, Bill Richardson, Joe Biden. All great guys.
daveyork0 4 years ago
LOL! Gravel destroyed that dumbass. Mike has done so much and that little weasel kept pestering him when he knew nothing about Gravel.
overmind25 4 years ago 6
Well to me thats sad Silv, you should never compromise human rights, some things should never been compromised. As for Ron Promising giving states back power, that will never happen. Currently hes known for his voting record which doesnt get much support from his peers. If Ron intends to use the same broken system of government he'll get as much done as he has in congress.
kyeot 4 years ago
A shift of power from the goverment to the people is the only way to change corrupt goverment, and for that you need Mike Gravel and the Ni4d
kyeot 4 years ago
If you research the Ni4d you will discover that you dont have to go through the broken govermental system to enact the Ni4d. Instead enough votes by the people will make it law under the same grounds as the consitution was given power through radification of the majority of its people.
kyeot 4 years ago
Frnnk I speak the truth, the problem is people have a problem with that. And on a personal note I dont value your viewpoint enough to consider anyone of your suggestions. Thanks for the laugh =D
kyeot 4 years ago
lol. What a bitch you are, huh?
frnnk 4 years ago
I believe that the people can fix corrupt goverment with the NI4D, while you on the other hand ride Ron Pauls kok praying he will save you. I ask you whos the bitch?
kyeot 4 years ago
And NI4D needs to pass through that corrupt government to be implemented and they won't even let your candidate on the ballot in some states. Nevada for starters.
Sounds to me like the corrupt government is making you (all of us, but right now you specifically) its bitch. =P
Silvsilvchan 4 years ago
Not it doesn't. If enough citizen put it on their ballot or sign up for it, it becomes law.
overmind25 4 years ago
Are you completely nuts? Gravel owns Ron Paul Supporter? lol. you bastards are nuts, this guy made a tupac video where tupac supports mike gravel, when it's obvious he supports ron paul. anyone who wants mike gravel for president should just go sell their home, buy a gun, and blow their own brains out.
frnnk 4 years ago
Anyone who wants Ron Paul for president should just pledge allegence to Hitler. Supporting a Nazi like Ron Paul is no solution.
truthout911 4 years ago
BLACK GUY FOR HITLER! I like it.
I'm making a shirt that says "Ron Paul does NOT hate negroes like me!"
frnnk 4 years ago
this is bullshit...why the hell is this online...gravel vs Ron Paul...wtf...
Gravel is great but most of the people have already chosen Ron Paul. People lets get real here and unite!
vinmorin 4 years ago
The more truth that comes out the more people will support MG. Mike Gravel will win this 2008 election.
kyeot 4 years ago
No you get real, because Ron Paul has scammed freaks like you out of millions of dollars to promote is nazi propoganda. Like Mike says in this video what is Ron Paul doing right now to investigate or end govt secretsy against citizens. And you attempts are failing because folk are sick of you spamming and bombarding them with Paul slogans.
truthout911 4 years ago
Well it seemed to be the right thing to write at that time...but then...yes, I had second thoughts and realized that what ever happens, at least some truth was heard and it's not only by Ron Paul. I am sorry.
vinmorin 4 years ago
don't apologize. Ron Paul is doing everything he can. He blows the whistle on REAL issues. Mike Gravel would be better off exposing the green irish midget at the end of a rainbow. Gravel supports the SALES TAX and other fair tax reforms which will be just as bad as the income tax he seeks to abolish. He's a backwards behemoth of retardism. This mans record bitch slaps itself. lol. BOOOO!
frnnk 4 years ago
Anacharist society which Paul advocates for will always fail. Ron Paul should go back to the KKK where he belongs. His lies have been exposed, The Ron Paul Freedom Report with his picture, signature and hateful comments are out. The gig is up and you should demand your money back. Gravel has smart sound responsible policies. Paul is a Freak that wants a white christian nation. SLAP ON HIM!
truthout911 4 years ago
mmmm. i like how your arguments are just as realistic as mike gravels chances for winning. a mike gravel supporter is about as rare as a chinese man in a popular porno.
You'd be better off screaming halleluja and jumping off a bridge with no bunjee cord . that's the tax reform gravel's giving you. HAAAAA!!!!!
frnnk 4 years ago
And now that Ron Paul's Nazi connections have been exposed, he will go the way David Duke did, back to the KKK. Better get your money back Freak.
truthout911 4 years ago
And all Ron Paul has done is make up a bunch of bullshit conspiracy theories from One world govt, to the Fed, to MLK is a Marxist and a sex fiend, to gays spreads AIDS, to Al Sharpton trying to turn NYC into welfare town. OH YEAH a real fighter huh. Let me know when Paul reads a set of Pentagon papers in front of congress. LOL. Paul is a loser.
truthout911 4 years ago
are you serious? you see.. the only thing we have in common is a love for tupac. your lies and bias and .... more than likely, learning disability prohibits you from seeing that ron paul is the only candidate proposing real reform to save black america. as well as white america. less government,means more money, more security, more freedom. make your choice. with you, i'm sure it'll be the wrong 1
frnnk 4 years ago
Oh and you speak for black america. A young white Paul Freak is going to lecture black america about what is good for them. The best thing Paul could do is drop dead. He is a waste of time. A lying Nazi, and a two faced hypocrit. Frnnk, drop the nn and add ea for FREAK!!
truthout911 4 years ago
i'm black, and the last joke was WEAAAAK. lol. you know my jokes were funny as hell. on a more serious note. I ...really and truly don't support throwing insults around. that's for a hillary or romney supporter. we're all energized for our candidate, and that's a good thing. I've never seen this type of energy in my lifetime. It should be amazing to see how this turns out.
frnnk 4 years ago
What joke?? I was dead serious. And I believe your as black as Ron Paul which is not at all, except his heart. And even if you are, you dont speak for all black people, just because you are stupid enough to fall for his lies doesnt mean all black people are. You are pathetic. You support a NAZI.
truthout911 4 years ago
ok....
frnnk 4 years ago
Truthout911 what are you talking about? You are completely misinformed on all of these statements you type up. Seriously, educate yourself..I dont even know you but damn you come of as a total jackass!
toocute3935 4 years ago
Seriously educate yourself. Just do a cursory google search. "Ron Paul White Supremist" and see how many hits you get. Another Paul Freak who dranked to koolaid.
truthout911 4 years ago
NO SWEETIE, you need to educate yourself. What a fucking retard you are. Those claims have been discredited for so long now. Not to mention how Paul is supported by many African American organizations. DUMBASS. youre ignorance is hillarious.
toocute3935 4 years ago
NO YOURSELF SWEETIE, I HAVE DONE MY HOMEWORK, apparently you are still drunk on the Paul koolaid. The claims stand as they are. NAME YOUR SO CALLED GHOST and NAME THE BLACK ORGS, THAT SUPPORT HIM. NOT ONE DOES. And dont give me crap about one black mans comment for the NAACP, he no more speaks for all blacks, than Jesse Jackson. You are so full of shit.
truthout911 4 years ago
You've done NO homework. haha you're so stupid its funny. Those claims have all been discredited by every reputable news organization. And by the way retard, the ghost writer is believed to be Lew Rockwell. Ron Paul shows the most respect towards all of his opponents in the race, its absurd to think that someone of his character would ever write such things. All the intelligent human beings have realized this. Woopsie thats not you! Nelson Linder chap. president (NAACP) think Paul is a hero.
toocute3935 4 years ago
OH like CNN, LOL LOL. Lew Rockwell did not come forward. FACE RON PAUL IS A RACIST NAZI. Everyone knows it, which goes to show that not all people are as stupid as you PAUL FREAKS. You are not winning anyone over to voting for a racist NAZI. Deal with it.
truthout911 4 years ago
sooo like i said previously youre a dumbass. Sorry, try again! better luck next time =]
toocute3935 4 years ago
You are a NAZI SUPPORTER. Tell me, how many brown shirts does Paul own? Do you personally polish his NAZI gear?
truthout911 4 years ago
Nazi = National Socialism.
Ahh yes, Ron Paul's "nazi propoganda (sic)"
Let's review Ron Paul's Nazi propaganda, shall we?
tinyurl(.)com/3yxh6g
sanarkhos 4 years ago
Ron Paul = NAZI RACISM, LOOK IT UP!
truthout911 4 years ago
Go to my favorites, look under 21-40 videos, see the AlanFlanders video entitled "Mike Gravel cant do nothing".
OH SNAP ANOTHER RON PAUL SUPPORTER PWNED AGAIN! THE PROOF IS THERE REGUARDLESS HOW MUCH YOU WISH IT WOULD GO AWAY, THE SAME GOES FOR RON PAUL BEING A RACIST!
kyeot 4 years ago
I like Gravel but I think you are missing the point. I agree with everything Gravel said here...Gravel isn't even against Ron Paul. There's no proof RP is a "racist", and that's such a media smear job cheap shot. the NYT admitted it was a BS piece. I find it unfortunate people are so susceptable to media trickery.
janeleone 4 years ago 3
Thanks to Jane. Good luck to you and your candidate.
What's Gravel's idea on the second amendment? I heard he thinks people should be given licensing for guns? Does he think this should be implemented on a state or federal level?
Silvsilvchan 4 years ago
i like how you discredit yourself by attacking ron paul supporters when they basically stand for the exact same things when it comes to foreign policy and a sound market (abolishing the income tax and irs, anyway)
difference is, one stands for a party that is traditionally psycho, and the other for the party that is sane. I don't like your bullshit smears. all your videos suck. get a real camera.
frnnk 4 years ago
CANT HEAR SHIT
evoneal 4 years ago 2
Basically the dumbass RP supporter is asking Mike Gravel to do the work that Ron Paul should be doing in Congress. For some reason this guy cant get it through his head that Mike Gravel has been out of Government for 20 years. Then again it took him one month to realise how much of an idiot he looked like before he took down his own video, which happens to be this one.
kyeot 4 years ago
It is sad that most voters are as smart as this fine young gentleman.
pizzintea 4 years ago
More info about Ron Paul being a racist comming out as recent as 1992 and 1995 /watch?v=CywY2581UFQ
He should really come out of the racist closet, to do otherwise is an act of a coward.
kyeot 4 years ago
Theres no "racist closet" for him to come out of if he isnt racist. Ever think of that? Also I saw the video but it cuts the end of the interview. watch?v=pLUmfZWIZsc
That shows the whole interview and he explains what people like you are doing.
Seiku 4 years ago
What is it that im doing? Spreading the truth? They're Ron Pauls racists comments coming from his OWN newsletter... Am I supposed to believe he didnt write them? Every paper as a editor, chief editor, someone who checks the content of all information written, its hard to believe he doesnt support these views unless he fired his staff every print edition.
kyeot 4 years ago
I agree that this issue is very important to some to be able to trust him. Though the problem is we both dont really know him personaly. Even if he did list names I think some people will still consider him racist. Sometimes when something bad happens under your name it can scar your reputation even if you honestly didnt do it. Its a difficult situation. Im going to just write him letters and see if hes willing to atleast talk about the staff who wrote about it.
Seiku 4 years ago
Yes please ask why articals like that were able to get "clearance" by the checks and balances of his editorial staff, and if he didnt share the same views why were statements like that allowed to be printed mutiple times, throughout this newsletter. Racism should never be taken lightly especially when that person wishes to eliminate all programs that have brought some progress to the equality of people of America.
kyeot 4 years ago
Special interest dont bring equality.
Seiku 4 years ago
Racism doesnt bring equality. By the way what did Ron Paul say? Did he have to fire his whole staff each time he printed his trash hes too afraid to take credit?
kyeot 4 years ago
Wow you really are an asshole.
Seiku 4 years ago 2
ron pauls a racist. everyone start making gravel videos!
oldhacks 4 years ago
Of ALL the current members of Congress, Ron Paul is the most outspoken on issues of liberty and calling people to the carpet on unconstitutional gov't abuses. Often he is the lone vote against bad policy, occasionally with Kucinich. It's ludicrous to call Dr. Paul out like this--he should be Gravel's favorite Republican. BTW anybody notice that Tony "Play Ball" Blair just picked up a million $ job with JP Morgan?...
foxinn 4 years ago
then why doesn't he lead a one-man filibuster like Gravel did and end the war?
cyberen 4 years ago 2
I strongly disagree with chan, Paul doesn't do enough with the power he has. Paul has access to information the public doesnt and he could make that information public thanks to the fact Mike Gravel risked going to prison for the betterment of our system. Money doesnt equal leadership as well as saying the word consitution doesnt equal a patriot. If the stateing the truth means butting heads then so be it.
kyeot 4 years ago
Thank you for being polite. That's all I really ask.
I don't know what he has access too. I do know that some of the things he has stated are things that have gotten him in trouble (even though they are the truth) and that takes backbone. And I respect backbone. Gravel has more of it, which means I do respect the ever loving shit out of the guy. I just agree more with Paul's policies.
Silvsilvchan 4 years ago
Good then, you agree with disaterious policies of Paul. I dont. Libertarian economics are bat crap crazy. GOT IT>
truthout911 4 years ago
Just quit trolling, kyeot doesnt need your help in explaining himself. You just make 'not' supporting Ron Paul look bad. I would eagerly listen other views that argue against his position to see if its something I should be concerned about. Though the way you express yourself makes me and other irritable. Goodjob.
Seiku 4 years ago
I will say whatever I want. If you like it tough. What I have said is the truth. You Paul Freaks stop spamming and invading videos with your nonsense. The only thing you have succeeded in doing is pissing people off.
truthout911 4 years ago
Stop exagerating, you act like if every Paul supporter does that. Everything you said is outdated information and only managed to prove youre a jerk. Btw you wrote that incorrectly, its "If you dont like it, tough". I am for freedom of speech but people like you abuse it for some personal gain, like enjoying upsetting other people.
Seiku 4 years ago
If you honestly feel that Ron Paul isnt a good candidate or wouldnt be good for the country then try saying it without being disrespectful. Most people are glad to listen and discuss, but you only provoke arguements.
Seiku 4 years ago
No the information proves that I am right. Doesnt matter how old the information is. And check out the new video "oldhacks" has out exposing even more of his racist garbage. Yes Paul is a Fraud, a liar, and a NAZI.
truthout911 4 years ago
I'll go look up his videos to see if hes got something new but from what I know already (ive seen oldhacks comments/videos before) its basicly the same thing youve been talking about. Earmarks, donations from racists, and the one article from the 90s I believe. Most of those things have already been discussed by Paul on the media.
Seiku 4 years ago
Typical delusional Paul Freaks
truthout911 4 years ago
Thats all you have to say? You have no arguement? You have no proof, no evidence, no links? No videos no anything? You depend on some guy who edits nazi flags onto ron pauls pictures? Good going truthout, im tired of arguing with a child like you who can do nothing but call people delusion or freaks and no realizing that you live in your own fantasy.
Seiku 4 years ago
The arguement has been made over and over again, but you so far gone, there is no reaching you. No one is home mentally. Again you are as sick as the Paul Freaks who chased Hannity in the parking lot. Gravel supporters have much better since than this.
truthout911 4 years ago
Far gone? I simply said that he is not racist. You insist that he is and im asking why and youve yet to explain the facts. Btw hannity? stop changing the subject bringing up comparisons from loon supporters that have nothing to do with Ron Paul himself. Hannity is a troll baiter anyways like you, thats why im gonnan end this conversation. Try growing up.
Seiku 4 years ago
Paul is a racist, period end of story. Plus he has been caught meeting with Nazi members of Stromfront.
truthout911 4 years ago
Id like to see an article or a video about it though. Not just oldhacks videos. When you find it post a link on my comments and Ill check it out and find out. I'd atleast want to see for myself and not just take your word on it so hastily. To busy to be on here constantly sorry so please leave the message there.
Seiku 4 years ago
Get back on the meds
truthout911 4 years ago
Is that your response? I asked you to give me a link so I can try to believe you and you insult me acting like I have a mental condition? You've proven to be nothing more than alittle internet bully. Good going asshole, you just had a chance to atleast try to give me some proof.
Seiku 4 years ago
Also RON PAUL IS A RACIST NAZI. The proof is there, you just dont want to face it, nor are you conviencing anyone else who is sane.
truthout911 4 years ago
This is a video on Gravel talking to some guy. I asked you to give me the link and you wont. Youre just saying "theres proof" with out showing me. Ive even given you the benefit of a doubt and see if youre right. You havent shown anything. You dont know me, I was grew up mostly in this country, with good education. Im a good individual and I work like everyone else. Im not a disrespectful like you. Now show me the links or stop replying bceause youre proving that youre nothing but an asshole.
Seiku 4 years ago
LOOK SMARTASS, RON PAUL IS A NAZI, and two I told you to google "Ron Paul White Supremist" that will give you the hits. No onw is buying your crap.
truthout911 4 years ago
I did google it, and i have checked that out long before our conversation. I even explained the links that I saw. Thats not enough you cant just make me google it, you have to specify because its just abunch of blogs. Come on, and please read what I say.
Seiku 4 years ago
RACIST AND A LIAR. Sorry that you are too far gone. But Paul is done for. This kind of crap killed David Duke's campaign in 1992. You people are trying to present a fraud.
truthout911 4 years ago
Sorry I cant comment with you anymore, youre too disrespectful and full of shit.
Seiku 4 years ago
Ron Paul is a Nazi, and you are a Nazi sympathiser.
truthout911 4 years ago
There you go judging people.
Seiku 4 years ago
For someone who doesnt want to comment, you certainly are doing your fair share. Arent you. NAZI.
truthout911 4 years ago
And all you can do is call people you dont know nazi, I do not support nor sympathise with nazis. But I guess thats all you can do, call people Nazi. If you call ME a nazi then obviously for you to call Ron Paul a nazi no longer has merit. Congratulations you totaly proved you've made up bullshit.
Seiku 4 years ago
I believe in calling a spade a spade, and since you find nothing wrong with the filth Paul supports, hence makes you at least a nazi support, but listening to your reasoning, Im convinced that you are a NAZI.
truthout911 4 years ago
Youre not listening to what im saying. Its not that Im not seeing it something as wrong or right, its the fact that Im seeing no connection with paul and racists other than he got donations and one article which he already discussed about. you are simply changing up the wording of the arguement to make me look bad. There are no connections with Paul and nazis and you havent shown me any except bad blogs.
Seiku 4 years ago
I dont care about your babble on how you think Ron Paul is your savior. You made yourself look bad and stupid. Are we to believe that a news letter that bares his name, that he never read any of the content that was in it or he doesnt remember who worked for him. Its a newletter not the New York Time. Typical rep dodge. The fact the MSM is lazy in finding this out, shame on them. I simply went online months ago and found it out. Whats their problem.
truthout911 4 years ago
Lol since when did I say Paul is my savior? Where? Which Comment. Sorry but you made yourself look idiotic. And the rest that you said is pretty much nonsense. You simply hate republicans, want free health care as if its a right and you call everyone who doesnt agree with you a nazi. Good going :>
Seiku 4 years ago
That fact you keep coming back with more nonsense just goes to show how much of an idiot you are. Yes you think Paul is your version of Christ. As far as hating repubs, I dont affiliate with any party and you might know that if you read my other post. Now Ron Paul = Nazi.
truthout911 4 years ago
Wrong, I dont praise him, thats simply you trolling.
Seiku 4 years ago
Seiku + Paul = double NAZIS
truthout911 4 years ago
Truthout gave up arguing and is only calling me Nazi though doesnt know that I am against that. Just look at his comments, all he does is spam SHUTUP YOUR NAZI *IGNORES DEBATES AND NAME CALLS*. Yeah youre doing a good job. I can do this all day and night, it just makes you look dumber every comment.
Seiku 4 years ago
You guessed it, Seiku = NAZI
truthout911 4 years ago
Hmm Im the Nazi yet you are for socialism.. strange..
Seiku 4 years ago