I found the new one too cumbersome, too big, too heavy. I like our 04 X much better. It had plenty of room already. The gas mileage, I hear it is not as good on the later generation. Hands down.. the prior models are my 1st choice. We will keep ours until the wheels fall off, we have no need to own a car, or it is damaged beyond reasonable repair.
The 09 Forester in the video is an "X" model...N/A Flat-4, 170hp. The 07 model is the "XT" turbocharged H-4 making 230hp. Subaru doesn't make a V6, it's an H6, and it's only found in the Tribeca or Legacy, not the Forester.
motori che qua ci sognamo solo..io ho dopo anni di auto a benzina, son stato cotretto a prendere la boxer diesel perchè Subaru italia non importa il magnifico 2.5 sohc
Zipping around traction control off (i am more used to my old 2000 forester), I did zip out into suburban traffic. Not bad, faster than the old 2000, which was a base model, light and pretty quick for a light SUV.
But wait, i forgot and pulled out in 2nd gear, not first! Whoa. The 2010 FXT has a lot of low end torque.
If subaru added a 5 or 6 speed and upped the torque and hp by 10-15%, they would be top of the class hands down. As is, they are great!
For the 09 model in the sand, did you put the shift to 'D' or in '2'? It makes a whole lot of difference in 2 (locks equal torque distribution and prevent unnecessary upshift which can kill momentum)
It looked more like the person in the black forester was not being aggressive enough, I have seen those models do better, I think the driver was lame..Hahha. All subarus rock!!!
new wins. and its not turbo like the other guy. i love both models though. i think subaru made a good move with the new model. it appeals to more buyers now.
What transmissions do these cars have? can you tell which is auto or manual? i think the they are both autos but not sure, and are the auto foresters better off road. I say this because i heard that they have different AWD systems is this true? thanks
The manual transmission is much better on the Subaru cause its full time 50/50 power four wheel drive differential. The automatic, has a 45/55 power ratio front to back and only transfers power when slippage occurs so yon ca lose control. The manual transmission has a permanent locking center differential which is why it has a permanent 4x4 drive system unlike the automatic that has a computer control it.
Neither is digging yourself out. If you spin tires too much you'll sink in the sand and get stuck. They were driving slow to show the AWD system working. If they drove fast and kept it floored, any car could do that. Great video.
i agree, their not trying to show power their trying to show the awd system working as it should, i think its a good video, even tho i am into bigger ideas, like rock crawling.
Sorry, I know you posted this a while age, but thought I'd respond anyway. It is larger and the edges are more rounded, but part of it's difference in appearance is due to growth. The 09 has higher ground clearance, better approach and departure angles, a lot more 2nd row leg room, and greater cubic feet in the cargo area. I test drove one a while back and it's a very solid and deceptively roomy small suv. It's easily best in it's class (at least in the US).
this years forester is strictly going for off roading and functionality,,carry more cargo=practical..
not a super station wagon ~ !!!
what's not fair.. so they did test on both, off road(sand) and on road.. each did better on eachother as we expected..
Even before I see this vid I liked new forester, older models sort of trapped between station wagon and SUV.... I'm going to get on this summer,, can't wait..
The fucking 09 model is in low range. simple as that. the MT lower class models come with a HR / LR lever... the XT doesnt, its a more sport affiliated car... and why not try and get the 07 going in the sand again instead of continuing to drive it into the same sand ditch? notice how the 09 avoided that area the whole test?
No es posible compararlos, ya que el modelo 2007 es un 2.5 turbo a diferencia del modelo 2009 que sólo es un 2.0, por lo tanto no es justa la comparación y obviamente el modelo 2007 va ser más potente.
Nepochopím jak nemůže vyjet z písku s Foresterem? Pokud člověk neumí jezdit v "terénu" nepomůže mu ani SUBARU!! Jestli dělám takové srovnání, měl bych mít obuty na obou autech terénní pneumatiky a pokud možno jezdit v terénu. A ne v písku. Ten test zrychlení je taky o ničem!! Pokud srovnávám dvě auta, tak je jasné, že každý řidič se rozjede jinak a má jiné reflexy ..
there are both some pros and cons with both, i personally like the taller 09 because i'm tall myself but since driving both of the cars, i somehow find the older version to be a tad bit better at handling and offroading capabilities.... and that includes snow... it's important to driving in that! but i think the 09 is maybe better.... we'll just have to see.
the black car was an 2007 2,5 XT model with 169kw there was a big scoop :) The new Subaru was standard 2.0 with 116 kw. New Forester is bigger, higher and better in qualiti but the turbo makes a big difference. In dragrace was to similar cars with no turbos, but if you hawe higher car, and new motor you cant win, its clear :)
Sand.....the 09 looks to be better, but a lot of off-roading has to do with the driver. It would be nice to see something similar with the same driver driving each car.
The drag....whoever was driving the 07 wasn't going hard from the start...the gap should have been bigger.
look again... the '08 was an XT model... there was a scoop.... LOOK MAN.... then the '09 was the 2.0X... whether or not the black one was a 2.0XT or a 2.5XT you cant be sure, but either way the turbo make a difference.
I'm not talking about when they are playing in the sand, a turbo shouldn't matter there much, I speak of the race at the end where a turbo would make a difference. I would say in the sand the 09 has advantages, but on the road it seems the older model was quicker.
sorry to say but with more hp comes more torque and this translate to brute power...dont u tink that more torque cant be helpful in 10 inches of sand??
First of all, I would say the '09 NA did better in the sand, & that's because in those conditions power isn't as important as ground clearance, traction/tires, suspension, etc. If you've spent much time around autox, you would know that many of the normally aspirated cars do very well when set up right. Power would help, but as I said, not as much. Besides, my comment was pertaining to the race at the end, since most people don't drive through sand like that on a daily basis.
if u look at the sandtrap portion you can clearly see the scoop on the hood of the 07,plus look at the first race at the end..the 07 is clearly in front,if its still a 07 coz its not even the same forester,the one in the sand is black and the other in the end race is a non xt (turbo)blue or sage forester and the race is won by a mere second!! voila.
About 500lbs more than the '04 XT but it looks much heavier - perhaps due to a longer wheel base - that's good for grandma, but not good for rallying....
Более удачная езда Форика 2009 по песку , на мой взгляд, обусловлена большим клиренсом. Однако чувствуется, что ралийные повадки у Форестера 2007 значительно ярче проявляются... Форик 2009 оброс жирком и это явно ему не к лицу(((
отличный тест и опять в пользу Форика 2009. У 2007 Форика по-моему турбо, и это заметнее на песке и в разгоне, но главное, что новый прекрасно выбирается из песка. Привет Украине!!
Será porque yo tengo un modelo 2007? Pero ...el nuevo forester, no dudo que sea un excelente automóvil, pero en cuanto a apariencia, definitivamente hay un retorceso... Aunque creo también que es cuestion de acostumbrarse, el nuevo forester ha caído en la apariencia convencional de los suv´s... El nuevo puede incluso confundirse con un mitsubishi outlander ... en eso falló FHI
Must be a woman driver in black subbie
brad11344 6 days ago
The 09 is slower heavier and has low hanging rear A arms.
Tyre pressure and driver ability make more difference IMHO.
sotilson 1 month ago
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Форик не жып.
mal4yk 5 months ago
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2009 говно. Эти лошпеды смотрели и делали только то что хотели видеть. На 07 турбе нужно давать газу. Форме не жип
mal4yk 5 months ago
I found the new one too cumbersome, too big, too heavy. I like our 04 X much better. It had plenty of room already. The gas mileage, I hear it is not as good on the later generation. Hands down.. the prior models are my 1st choice. We will keep ours until the wheels fall off, we have no need to own a car, or it is damaged beyond reasonable repair.
djkenny 5 months ago
the 07 is an XT (turbo) and the 09 is not .. ? no?
Vanrocco66 6 months ago
it's not fair test..
PAOKARATRELA 10 months ago
Ха! Турбо против нетурбо не честно :) Однако 2009 хорошо себя показал.
iPhoneSasuke 10 months ago 2
@iPhoneSasuke А там такое-же турбо,что у нового не турбо,170 против 172,если старый 2.0 турбо,а новый 2.5 атмосферник.
golybevroman 9 months ago
nice video
alikatetion 1 year ago
Is the transmission on the '09 an auto or manual? What gear were you in? Was the VDC turned off or left on?
rivtwins 1 year ago
So is the new Forester beter than old one off-road?
kildas 1 year ago
Che motori erano?? Which engine was??
JakiLLamb 1 year ago
The '07 had a turbocharger and the '09 didn't. Just sayin'.
Wukaza 1 year ago
@Wukaza 09 is v6 with VDC. it has almost the same power and not only that, but it can place it down better.
Whats the wheels at 5:26 you can see that regardless of high end power, the traction control is what makes this car worth buying.
As for the drag, well yes the high end power and lower weight did help the 07 there.
Sethjxl 1 year ago
@Sethjxl
The 09 Forester in the video is an "X" model...N/A Flat-4, 170hp. The 07 model is the "XT" turbocharged H-4 making 230hp. Subaru doesn't make a V6, it's an H6, and it's only found in the Tribeca or Legacy, not the Forester.
bluefox4848 1 year ago
@Wukaza
motori che qua ci sognamo solo..io ho dopo anni di auto a benzina, son stato cotretto a prendere la boxer diesel perchè Subaru italia non importa il magnifico 2.5 sohc
sslaziomad 1 year ago
@sslaziomad anche io! costretto a prendere il boxer diesel perchè il 2.5 sohc che volevo, qui non c'è!
di regolare le valvole ogni 20.000 non ne avevo voglia 8con quello che costa)
sslaziomad 1 year ago
really amazings cars.......amazings!
julioigna71 1 year ago
is this what u do if u dont have snow?
username2153 1 year ago
Hi from México, I saw the video, but I think the tests was wrong because a differents types of tires. Regards!
abbcesar 1 year ago
For Russian roads-das ist gud!
stranniiy 2 years ago
Is there an easy way of adding some boxer sound to a base model forester (07 shape)? Without upgrading to an XT of course...
mozaks80 2 years ago
Chicago, after a 9 inch snow:
Zipping around traction control off (i am more used to my old 2000 forester), I did zip out into suburban traffic. Not bad, faster than the old 2000, which was a base model, light and pretty quick for a light SUV.
But wait, i forgot and pulled out in 2nd gear, not first! Whoa. The 2010 FXT has a lot of low end torque.
If subaru added a 5 or 6 speed and upped the torque and hp by 10-15%, they would be top of the class hands down. As is, they are great!
xyaqua 2 years ago
For the 09 model in the sand, did you put the shift to 'D' or in '2'? It makes a whole lot of difference in 2 (locks equal torque distribution and prevent unnecessary upshift which can kill momentum)
ahmadzuhairi 2 years ago 2
It looked more like the person in the black forester was not being aggressive enough, I have seen those models do better, I think the driver was lame..Hahha. All subarus rock!!!
huntenstrasse 2 years ago
зачот!
Dronnonarg 2 years ago
MMMM In the dirt.. 05/08 Model is an XT, no low range trans. 09 model is eithere an x or xs , X & XS Come with H/Low range that test dosn't count
luvmyscooby 2 years ago
new wins. and its not turbo like the other guy. i love both models though. i think subaru made a good move with the new model. it appeals to more buyers now.
GrahamCrackers94 2 years ago
the wider tires of the 2009 help a lot
jpaulor 2 years ago
i have a my07 forester xt but mines silver
duhabcdef 2 years ago
the red subaru forester auto gear or manual ??
MrHifzy1405 2 years ago
The only difference would be tires, same AWD system.. The 09 has better ground clearance
boon4376 2 years ago
heavier though
ahhderek 2 years ago
not same, youre a fool
LLCoolPass 2 years ago
An X-trail would cry at this
wosd 2 years ago 2
What transmissions do these cars have? can you tell which is auto or manual? i think the they are both autos but not sure, and are the auto foresters better off road. I say this because i heard that they have different AWD systems is this true? thanks
jordy0721 2 years ago
The manual transmission is much better on the Subaru cause its full time 50/50 power four wheel drive differential. The automatic, has a 45/55 power ratio front to back and only transfers power when slippage occurs so yon ca lose control. The manual transmission has a permanent locking center differential which is why it has a permanent 4x4 drive system unlike the automatic that has a computer control it.
Flyingfast79 2 years ago
RIGHT ON! I had a manual forester it was the best car ever
irolliamvolvo 2 years ago 11
i love the way traction works on subarus !!
samuelprn 2 years ago
love the 09. i want my mom to get one. just wish the turbo didnt reccomend premium feul.
GrahamCrackers94 2 years ago
how did you blow the engine? Their tough as hell
roswellfd 2 years ago 2
well those drivers don't do either car justice.
and i have an 09 XT and the engine just blew, i used to love it though?
6AstroMan9 2 years ago
you can get the 09 touring package which has tinted windows. I have a black touring package and I love it. there a tank in the snow.
roswellfd 2 years ago
which is safer?
12345jrt 2 years ago
09 wins
drratrrd 2 years ago 2
170hp just isnt enough for the big one. at least in my opinion.
guitarplayrmikeo 3 years ago
the 2007 model have 2.5 turbo but the 2009 don't have turbo
get Forster 2009 2.5 turbo and see what it do
GBM2009 3 years ago
this shit is depressing. bogging your car is not fun ok?
chookandhook 3 years ago
Neither is digging yourself out. If you spin tires too much you'll sink in the sand and get stuck. They were driving slow to show the AWD system working. If they drove fast and kept it floored, any car could do that. Great video.
didjamatic 2 years ago 2
i agree, their not trying to show power their trying to show the awd system working as it should, i think its a good video, even tho i am into bigger ideas, like rock crawling.
spankybrandonf 2 years ago
can you get the new subaru forester with tinted windows?!
-----someone please respond =]-----
GrahamCrackers94 3 years ago
the 09 looks like a soccer mom car. oversized and soft like every other SUV in America.
monkeysee79 3 years ago
Sorry, I know you posted this a while age, but thought I'd respond anyway. It is larger and the edges are more rounded, but part of it's difference in appearance is due to growth. The 09 has higher ground clearance, better approach and departure angles, a lot more 2nd row leg room, and greater cubic feet in the cargo area. I test drove one a while back and it's a very solid and deceptively roomy small suv. It's easily best in it's class (at least in the US).
Robotasaurus 2 years ago 8
@Robotasaurus Sorry for the late reply too but were you able to try the VW Tiguan? We are in the process of choosing between the two. TIA.
Ryancuasay 9 months ago
@Robotasaurus higher ground clearance in a 09 forester? i dont see that much of a difference...
7150285 5 months ago
this years forester is strictly going for off roading and functionality,,carry more cargo=practical..
not a super station wagon ~ !!!
what's not fair.. so they did test on both, off road(sand) and on road.. each did better on eachother as we expected..
Even before I see this vid I liked new forester, older models sort of trapped between station wagon and SUV.... I'm going to get on this summer,, can't wait..
chewchewg 3 years ago
Вам на этот тест(в песок)надо было взять Subaru leone...
Я думаю она бы прикалола любой форестер!!!!!! )))))))))))
dimmitrius85 3 years ago
The 2001-2002 is the best!
irolliamvolvo 3 years ago
I'm getting an 2009 2.5X. Does that come with a low range lever? I ordered the car online and have never been in one.
FLKeyz76 3 years ago
lol
chookandhook 3 years ago
The fucking 09 model is in low range. simple as that. the MT lower class models come with a HR / LR lever... the XT doesnt, its a more sport affiliated car... and why not try and get the 07 going in the sand again instead of continuing to drive it into the same sand ditch? notice how the 09 avoided that area the whole test?
D347hknight 3 years ago
No es posible compararlos, ya que el modelo 2007 es un 2.5 turbo a diferencia del modelo 2009 que sólo es un 2.0, por lo tanto no es justa la comparación y obviamente el modelo 2007 va ser más potente.
roooddd 3 years ago
NOT FAIR.. the 2009 forester doesn't drive so fast as the 2007.
it's a lame video
pavcon 3 years ago
To video vůbec nic neříká kdo je lepší.
Nepochopím jak nemůže vyjet z písku s Foresterem? Pokud člověk neumí jezdit v "terénu" nepomůže mu ani SUBARU!! Jestli dělám takové srovnání, měl bych mít obuty na obou autech terénní pneumatiky a pokud možno jezdit v terénu. A ne v písku. Ten test zrychlení je taky o ničem!! Pokud srovnávám dvě auta, tak je jasné, že každý řidič se rozjede jinak a má jiné reflexy ..
adavid555 3 years ago
Старый турбовый - новый овощь, не равный тест!!!
crutch56 3 years ago
there are both some pros and cons with both, i personally like the taller 09 because i'm tall myself but since driving both of the cars, i somehow find the older version to be a tad bit better at handling and offroading capabilities.... and that includes snow... it's important to driving in that! but i think the 09 is maybe better.... we'll just have to see.
jessenicholas1 3 years ago
Хорошее видео! А можно узнать что за песня звучит?
alexandrowi4 3 years ago
Какая из 3-х?
YaroslavSeverin 3 years ago
та где есть слова "...когда тебе нужно дыханье толпы, что-бы спеть вместе" (если я правильно расслышал). 4-я минута
alexandrowi4 3 years ago
как называется вторая песня?
alexandrowi4 3 years ago
This ain't fair the 2007/8 was a turbo and the 2009 isn't i can tel the difference between the turbo and non-turbo,
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It also depends on the drivers skills (how they drop the clutch (MT) or how well they push the gas(AT),
Come on, that wasn't a fair test!!!
NABiLALi77 3 years ago 2
he has a point
scoobystu555 3 years ago
thats so helpful
michelago50 3 years ago
Nice video, on a difference between 2009-2008
michelago50 3 years ago
the new one has traction control that is why it is doing slightly better that and it may also be the driver to
bob199061 3 years ago
the black car was an 2007 2,5 XT model with 169kw there was a big scoop :) The new Subaru was standard 2.0 with 116 kw. New Forester is bigger, higher and better in qualiti but the turbo makes a big difference. In dragrace was to similar cars with no turbos, but if you hawe higher car, and new motor you cant win, its clear :)
MustRabbit 3 years ago
Sand.....the 09 looks to be better, but a lot of off-roading has to do with the driver. It would be nice to see something similar with the same driver driving each car.
The drag....whoever was driving the 07 wasn't going hard from the start...the gap should have been bigger.
beohbe64 3 years ago
the 2009 model would have won that if it was the turbo version..
TreeWorm 3 years ago
they are devoloping a second turbo for the forester, its gonna hit peak tourque at 300 rpm!!
NiGGeRWithaDICK 3 years ago
beautifull subaru! 5 stars!
dj dinky
tokobot 3 years ago
that's 227 bhp pitted against about 160. that's very biased....
thecarexpert 3 years ago
wrong. no scoop on either of those.
Oddnoggins 3 years ago
look again... the '08 was an XT model... there was a scoop.... LOOK MAN.... then the '09 was the 2.0X... whether or not the black one was a 2.0XT or a 2.5XT you cant be sure, but either way the turbo make a difference.
thecarexpert 3 years ago
I'm not talking about when they are playing in the sand, a turbo shouldn't matter there much, I speak of the race at the end where a turbo would make a difference. I would say in the sand the 09 has advantages, but on the road it seems the older model was quicker.
Oddnoggins 3 years ago
sorry to say but with more hp comes more torque and this translate to brute power...dont u tink that more torque cant be helpful in 10 inches of sand??
mart5374 3 years ago
First of all, I would say the '09 NA did better in the sand, & that's because in those conditions power isn't as important as ground clearance, traction/tires, suspension, etc. If you've spent much time around autox, you would know that many of the normally aspirated cars do very well when set up right. Power would help, but as I said, not as much. Besides, my comment was pertaining to the race at the end, since most people don't drive through sand like that on a daily basis.
Oddnoggins 3 years ago
ooooh.....sorry i dont tink we saw the same vid:)
mart5374 3 years ago
i would say the 2009 is. but that's not going to stop me from getting a 2007/2008. second Forester for me. ouiiiiiii
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tallazzFilipino 3 years ago
thanks guys - I'm big fun of Subaru - now i know what i should buy new 2009 version.. nice video, thanks alot
snukos 3 years ago
the 2007 is the turbo version vs a non turbo one (2009)...sure its no match!
mart5374 3 years ago
that shouldnt' matter.
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tallazzFilipino 3 years ago
i just saw the race at the end. i think they were to both normally aspirated.
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tallazzFilipino 3 years ago
if u look at the sandtrap portion you can clearly see the scoop on the hood of the 07,plus look at the first race at the end..the 07 is clearly in front,if its still a 07 coz its not even the same forester,the one in the sand is black and the other in the end race is a non xt (turbo)blue or sage forester and the race is won by a mere second!! voila.
mart5374 3 years ago
each year it gets heavier - should be lighter!
AMAZINGPROSTATE 3 years ago
the difference in weight isn't far at all.
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tallazzFilipino 3 years ago
About 500lbs more than the '04 XT but it looks much heavier - perhaps due to a longer wheel base - that's good for grandma, but not good for rallying....
AMAZINGPROSTATE 3 years ago
The 2007 is the best
joaorobertomonteiro 3 years ago
Более удачная езда Форика 2009 по песку , на мой взгляд, обусловлена большим клиренсом. Однако чувствуется, что ралийные повадки у Форестера 2007 значительно ярче проявляются... Форик 2009 оброс жирком и это явно ему не к лицу(((
nskqwertyuiop 3 years ago
отличный тест и опять в пользу Форика 2009. У 2007 Форика по-моему турбо, и это заметнее на песке и в разгоне, но главное, что новый прекрасно выбирается из песка. Привет Украине!!
taintedglassmirror 3 years ago
Será porque yo tengo un modelo 2007? Pero ...el nuevo forester, no dudo que sea un excelente automóvil, pero en cuanto a apariencia, definitivamente hay un retorceso... Aunque creo también que es cuestion de acostumbrarse, el nuevo forester ha caído en la apariencia convencional de los suv´s... El nuevo puede incluso confundirse con un mitsubishi outlander ... en eso falló FHI
anibalmiranda 3 years ago