'Judge Napolitano on Liberty, Lincoln & Public Miseducation'

[katnap72]

Lincoln was just a tyrant with a big hat.

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

Like i said there were many socialist like George Fitzhugh, Harrison Berry that argued the slaves were free because they were free of the bonds of Capitlaism. Some answers you have to find for yourself. To be a leftist is working to change the economic system of a target country which is where the South was headed. Slavery is not capitalism it has to be enforced by the state, when married with Social Darwinism spawns fascism. This is clearly left wing thinking.

[stopdroplol1]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu Oh, the sad sad type you must consort with to believe this nonsense. It's clear you have no idea what you're talking about. You have no idea what it means to be fascist, and you have no idea of the country's history. It's clear you've already made up your mind on the issue so I wont waste anymore time. Except for this one caviar: Most political experts would say Fascism is to the far right

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@stopdroplol1 Ok im just going to leave it at that, you got the last word in, take care.

[daPlumber702]

@stopdroplol1 let me correct your ignorant statement real quick.

"most Socialist (big government liberals) political experts would say fascism is to the far right. Everyone else, the middle, the right, and those with no political affiliation whatsoever would say the opposite... " Have fun being stupid.

[stopdroplol1]

@daPlumber702 If you're gonna quote somebody you have to cite the source. But to clarify, Fascism is when a government takes on a singular identity (that of the dictator), transforms to a police state, undergoes mass mobilzations, and invade's other nations to grow stronger and project it's dominance. It does not entertain any opposition to that of it's collective. It is anti-democratic, anti-communist, and anti-liberal, and anti-capitalist. It is entirely dependent on those it conquers.

[stopdroplol1]

@daPlumber702 Communism (far left) is an extreme combination of an economy in which all the wealth is shared equally (Socialism) and and a 1 class political structure, one where everybody's voice matters equally and everybody has equal rights and authority (Liberalism). Communism is the polar opposite of Facism. Where one seeks to build and prosper within itself, the other seeks to steal and prosper from others. The only similarities is they are dependent on strong executives (dictators)

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

Another thing that is bothering me about this, we all agree the United States is one nation under God and all rights come from God but that is exactly what the Confederacy rejected. The Confederacy was based on Darwin not God, the right to own slaves is based on a progressive ideas of survival of the fittest not that all men are created equal.

[stopdroplol1]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu This is not a nation under god, and our rights definitely do not come from him. Slavery had nothing to do with Darwin. Slavery was around long before Darwin was ever born, including slavery in the South. To say the South rejected god is ludicrous. They were religious fanatics and believed that slavery was a gift from god, which is understandable considering the crap the bible contains and the centuries of slavery under the reign of Christianity .

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@stopdroplol1 "Alexander Stephens-This, our new government, is the first, in the history of the world, based upon this great physical, philosophical, and moral truth. This truth has been slow in the process of its development, like all other truths in the various departments of science."

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@stopdroplol1 Alexander Stephens- "Our new government is founded upon exactly the opposite idea; its foundations are laid, its corner- stone rests, upon the great truth that the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery subordination to the superior race is his natural and normal condition."

[stopdroplol1]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu That's a weak quote to make your case on. He's not referring to evolution as you would know if you read his speech. Here some better quotes, from the same speech he made. "They were attempting to make things equal which the Creator had made unequal." "It is not for us to inquire into the wisdom of [gods] ordinances, or to question them. For his own purposes, he has made one race to differ from another, as he has made "one star to differ from another star in glory"

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@stopdroplol1 I have to dissagree with you, the quotes i sent you were pretty damning, Stephens clearly referred to science. The Confederates were moving away form God and toward Darwinism and Fascism. There were other Socailist philosophers that argued the slaves were "free of the bonds of capitalism". Im not suprised Stephens tried to invoke God to justify his position, even today in Washington Marxist and Obama himself go to church on Sunday to hide and disquise what they are.

[stopdroplol1]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu You're telling me the South wasn't religious? You're telling me that Evolution explains slavery? You're telling me that the confederates states supported Fascism? Dear god man, turn off Fox News. The South, was deeply, deeply religious and to some extent still are today. Evolution has to do with species adapting to their environment and in no way has any remote relation to the human system of slavery. And finally, Fascism wasn't created until WW1.

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@stopdroplol1 No im not telling you the South was not religious or that Darwin invented slavery, slavery even predates Christianity. Im telling you the south embraced leftist ideas that began to move them away from God. As Stephens put it "This truth has been slow in the process of its development". The belief that the strong survive and have a right to enslave, control or exterminate the weak. This set the stage for the Nazi and the Communist horrors of the 20th century.

[stopdroplol1]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu Where are you getting this information? The political spectrum has nothing to do with God, and slavery has nothing to do with science and non of this has anything at all to do with Nazi's or communism. Yes the South thought blacks were an inferior species but they also thought god created them that way. And the South was the epitome of far right thinking. If anyone was left it would be the North. If you're gonna continue in this fashion please provide some shred of support.

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

Actually Lincoln didnt start the war. The south fired on Ft Sumter and started the war.

[RedShirtArmy]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu You obviously need to study history a bit more. The South evicted the Union forces which were occupying an SC island. No one was killed in that eviction and the Union forces left with full honour and their colours. Lincolns used this as an excuse to form a huge army and invade Virginia. He could have allowed the South to secede peacefully and there would have been no war. Instead he invaded Virginia, caused more states to secede & started a war which killed half a million people.

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@RedShirtArmy In other words the south started the war.

[bwood21390]

@RedShirtArmy Well, they did fire on the island in order to force the eviction...so in that sense Madmonkey is right...but they had every right to fire on those forces when they had peacefully and democratically seceded. They requested the Union troops leave multiple times, as they were no longer sovereign there, and instead the Union position was reinforced. A legitimate defense of state territory and popular sovereignty.

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@bwood21390 At least we agree Lincoln did not stop the south from seceding, i think that is a point Redshirt and Napolitano missed. The south did secede and was a sovereign nation. States began to secede before Lincoln was sworn in, that is why in his inaugeral address he is trying to take slavery off the table and save the Union because it was already breaking up.

[CircleBastiat]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu

How's that Kool-Aid called Public Schools treating you? Sounds like they were successful in churning out another zombie.

[MaDmOnkyKungFu]

@CircleBastiat If you paid for a private education to teach you need to get your money back. I think that is something that comes from left wing, neo nazi or marxist propaganda which is why im surised to hear this from Nepolitano.

[5canesNatcham]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu Stop just accepting whatever you learned in school as fact and actually learn the History for yourself

[lizardfirefighter110]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu What might Judge Napolitano know about the start of the Civil War that you don't? Did the Japanese start the Second World War in the Pacific with their sneak attach of Pearl Harbor? See the Book "Day of Deceit" by Robert Stiennett. Do a Google Book review for the eight steps that Roosevelt took to incite the Japanese to take military action. The attack on Pearl Harbor was no Surprise to Roosevelt and his cabal. Pearl Harbor was predicted by Billy Mitchell 15 years earlier.

[nonrepublicrat]

@MaDmOnkyKungFu

it's not so simple as that. the fort was not "fired on" just for the heck on it. you need to look at events in history in context. you need to consider the provocations injustices inflicted on the people of SC prior to the event at ft. sumpter. you are being manipulated with half-truths and distorts of truth.

[equsnarnd]

Rights do not come from God! And the founding fathers did not believe they did. The whole foundation for our rights is this: "We hold these truths to be self-evident"...not we hold these truths to be revealed or handed down on a set of tablets or from any god. They were well educated and knew basing rights on a belief in God would lead to trouble.

And what was that hideous music?

[RedShirtArmy]

@equsnarnd I'm afraid you are badly mistaken. Look at the Declaration of Independence. It plainly states that men are created. Natural right theory going back further than the founding fathers rested heavily upon Christian beliefs. If you are not a Christian that's fine, you could base natural rights on the nature of man.

As for the music, no one is asking you to listen to it. It's a a version of Dixie - the national anthem of the South.

[Luigi84289]

@equsnarnd You can supplant god with nature as I do. We are born with inalienable rights we all individually as socially strive to maintain. Every organism seeks to be free in all aspects of life. Our rights do not come from the government which is what the government tries to plant in children's minds thereby making the government a replacement for god. They want us to deify it. For us to believe other men have magical powers.

[daPlumber702]

@equsnarnd "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness"

dumbass. maybe next time reading farther than a few words into the document will help you not be such a stupid fuck.

[equsnarnd]

Rights do not come from God!

[Pdrum2]

Elected

[pensword5]

Ironic I think, that we are taught in our gov run public schools that Lincon "saved the Union" and was "a real humanitarian" when in reality I think he planted the cancer that destroyed it (central power/control).

And the "humanitarian" Lincon caused more death than I care to think about.

[Koutetsu]

Rights cannot "come from" any supernatural thing. Rights cannot be "given" by God, the Bible, a Constitution, a law, or a government. Rights cannot be "given" by definition, that would be a privilege. Rights are not privileges, and privileges are not rights. See ATLAS SHRUGGED for details: "The source of mans rights is not divine law or congressional law, but the law of identity..."

[Pdrum2]

@Koutetsu natural rights are based on natural law as John Locke taught, it's called God given because God created us, the state is supposed to protect our rights, it's another way of saying that the government is protecting something that is natural such as liberty.

[peepnklown]

It is all about religious freedom, to choose for yourself, your religious path and neither the state nor your neighbor has the right to force you into their religion. Just because you do not believe in God does not mean you think rights came from the state; never, rights come from being human.

[Pdrum2]

@peepnklown Correct, natural rights (as John Locke taught) is based on natural law, so yeah it's based on human nature.

[peepnklown]

The founders thought their rights came from God but, a lot of them had different views on this God than Christianity does today. For example, Jefferson did not believe in the divinity of Jesus. John Jay and John Rutledge objected to opening the inaugural session of the Continental Congress with a prayer. Most of the most substantial founders followed the deist ideal of God.

[DarthByss]

Then how do you reconcile the fact that the south illegally succeeded from the union becaise Lincoln was elected and that they fired the first shot? How do you reconcile the countless public records that show that what DiLorenzo claims is dishonest? How do you reconcile the fact that Thomas Jefferson himself in his own writings endorsed similar ideas that Lincoln did in action? The South started the war instead of debating. The south infringed on the rights of an entire race of people.

[Luigi84289]

The south didn't start a war. There is no "illegal" secession as secession is firing the federal government because they are infringing on the rights of the people. Law has no part in it. It was 100% illegal in 1776. Abe was a horrible person and completely insane. Ft Sumpter is in south carolina. Last I checked that's not DC. Why do you want people in the US who don't want to be here?

[dilligras]

Lincoln had agreed not to re-supply or add troops to both Fort Sumpter and Fort Pickett. He broke that agreement at Fort Sumpter and those troops were attacked because of it.

As for your "countless public records" and Jefferson "endorsed similar ideas that Lincoln did in action"--you're being pretty vague, there, pilgrim. How about some specifics that may be addressed, rather than generalities that prove nothing other than that raise doubts about your veracity, n'est-ce pas?

[dilligras]

Do you really believe that the Mason-Dixon Line actually separated good people from bad? For your information, whites in the North didn't treat black folks any better than those in the South, because they didn't want to compete with them for jobs. Nor did Lincoln free the slaves with the Emancipation Declaration... ever bothered to actually read it? Also read the DC Emancipation Act and ask yourself why he "bought" the freedom of slaves in DC, but nowhere else.

[DarthByss]

Napolitano you are wrong on Lincoln. I like you man, but you are not being truthful. Stop repeating the DiLorenzo talking points.

[RedShirtArmy]

If you don't like the truth then don't watch. But this is the truth. DiLorenzo is not the only one to say it. Pat Buchanan and Ron Paul say the same thing. And they aren't the only ones either. Read a bit more on Lincoln. He wasn't a good fellow. The man was easily America's worst president - definitely its most destructive one. And he pretty much ended constitutional government. Since then we've practically had Federal rule over the States and people with centralised control.

[Pdrum2]

@RedShirtArmy Mildred Rutherford wrote a book and also is saying it. she was mentioning all the unconstiitution things Lincoln did.

[daPlumber702]

@RedShirtArmy Obama is fighting him tooth and nail for the title "possible worst president ever" though i'd give carter a shot at it as well.

[Luigi84289]

He was horrible. He killed norherners too. tens of thousands of new yorkers who opposed him in a civilian militia were killed. All the democratic northern states were forcefully held at gunpoint. The "election" of 1864 was a joke.

[Pdrum2]

@Luigi84289 I read that he did a bargain in order to get electrd because he would appoint certain cabinet officers.

[Luigi84289]

thing 2 parties are nowhere near enough to represent a country as large and diverse as america, when america was much smaller than it is now and we hadn't even gone across mississippi 4 (with the true ability to win the presidential election or get into congress to promote real change) was the norm.

[Luigi84289]

I guess that's why the northern states had it until the early 19th century. Read your own damn history so you don't make a fool of yourself, "slavery" was a mask for the real reason, control. The founding fathers created the principle everybody but us now freely uses. There is no liberty without the condoning of secession. Because no secession voids sovereignty (freedom). If you can't walk away because of a gun you aren't free.

[vinnykster]

no Seccession is and always was a RIGHT. The Declaration of Independence is a declaration of SECCESSION.  Also WAR was NOT neccessary to end slavery. Several other countries had done it. Do some research pal. THE REAL LINCOLN .. Great book .. check it out. That and check out Thomas D. Lorenzo here on youtube. What we were taught in school bout Civil War/Lincoln is bs. Everyones gotta look at what really happend.

[Luigi84289]

So good to hear another voice of reason. Lincoln enslaved us all under political and civil slavery. Nobody alive today knows what true freedom is in order to use it as a gauge to our current situation if most people understood what the founders were fighting for they would be distugsted with our perverted twisted system that puts the small elite over the people. Hamilton the most fervent Big Government supporter of his day would have NEVER supported our current system. For one

[Whoo69]

Why doesn't anyone ask Wesley Clark what he thinks about all that? After all, he was a Supreme Allied Commander working for NATO!!

[Whoo69]

Politically incorrect truths about our "beloved" Lincoln: He violated the Constitution in the Civil War in numerous ways, and the Civil War was not just about slavery. There were many issues involved, including tariffs that indirectly hurt the South.

All these liberals who think we should've fought a war with over half a million dead to end slavery can kiss my ass. There were much more efficient and cost-effective ways to free the slaves. Did we really need a war to do it?? Come on!

[Whoo69]

Lincoln was not quite the angel all these public history textbooks make him out to be. It's time to teach the whole truth about every president, including Bush. Don't hold back. Talk about how Janet Reno falsely accused and prosecuted people in Florida for "child abuse" or how she had 86 innocents murdered in Waco and violated Posse Comitatus. Or the Ruby Ridge nonsense. Or the Elian Gonzalez bullshit. Talk about Clinton's unconstitutional intervention in Kosovo which attacked civilians.

[Whoo69]

Or how Clinton's administration and his NATO friends continuously lied about smaller facts about the war, like "mass graves" or the Serbs "hiding bodies" of people murdered (when no hiding happened and mass graves could not be found). Talk about the distortions of numbers that were made to boost the number dead by "genocide." The "genocide" was terrorism, which our intel assisted, not Milosevic's doing. Come on, people! The media totally fucked up with Kosovo.

[scottcolumbia]

will do--after finals though.

[jdthecrazy]

Awesome!

[Live414]

Lincoln's Army inflicted intentional death and misery against Southern Civilians (women and children).

That was not collateral damage, or accidental occurrences.

It was cold blooded calculated murder and destruction.

Lincoln showed no mercy, and we show him no forgiveness!

Deo Vindice!

[scottcolumbia]

I would like to see the evidence that supports the claim that Lincoln's soldiers murdered women and children. Seeing such evidence would convince me of the wickedness of the Union cause and the war itself. Perhaps the South should have been "left alone" as Jefferson Davis so reasonably proclaimed. Otherwise, I am inclined to believe that the evils of slavery were more than enough to justify any war that would result in its termination.

[CNS2]

You know I've listened to Judge Napolitano for years in interviews etc., but I never saw him as a "Copperhead" but God Bless him, it's nice to see a northerner speak the truth and not follow the rest of the yankee sheep. Nice find "RedShirtArmy"!

[zrunner240Z]

OH yeah baby, I have told my daughter that Lincoln was the WORST president in US HISTORY since she was 6 years old and she's 12 now so hopefully it's sinking in!!

Thanks for the video.

RON PAUL rallies tomorrow in SC with RON PAUL speaking! ROCK HILL at 11AM Anderson at 3:30 Greenvile at 7 pm!!

[southernhistory]

Great Job Finally some one up north tells the Damn truth.

[MrTieDye]

I never expected to hear any Judge admit the Truth about that murderous Tyrant Lincoln, but I am really glad that I have heard exactly that.

I am feeling better and better about the progress we are making in our struggle for Liberty and Independence!

[csason]

Great interview..

[MRCSA4LIFE]

Preach it Judge. It's about time someone in the mainstream controlled media spoke the truth about that dictator.

[RedShirtArmy]

Yeah, he's a very strong voice. I'm gld he's on our side in this thing. We need folks like the Judge.

[Arkben4south]

Well executed Mike, another fine job.

[RedShirtArmy]

Thanks man, looking forward to hearing your next SLMN recording! From SC to Arkansas and beyond, the word is going out. 'Liberation' is the call world.

[RedShirtArmy]

SLMNews presents this video about Judge Andrew Napolitano - a very courageous patriot who has dared take a stand. God bless this man.

Deo Vindice