Chaka Khan Live (Vinnie Colaiuta)

[Oneness100]

PoeticJustice05. Here is my take on Vinnie. yes, he has played with just about everyone, but I don't see that many classic recordings that I was that impressed with what he was doing. Sometimes he plays very safe, but I just ain't digging everything he has done. yes, I like some of the stuff with sting, but I equally like Manu and Copeland. To me, Vinnie doesn't stand out as much as other drummers like Williams, Cobham, White, Narada, Gadd and others that have a VERY distinguishable style.

[Oneness100]

TheRic2345, you sound like an expert in the area of put downs. Wanker? Is that the best you can come with?

[Oneness100]

This sounds like smooth jazz.  decent players, but the song isn't that special. they are all playing fairly safe, commercialized music. too bad these players have to br involved with commercialied go make a living.

[PoeticJustice05]

@Oneness100 decent players? Vinnie Colaiuta is probably the best drummer to have ever lived. He makes his living playing everything, not just commercialized music. He's played with everyone from Frank Zappa to Sting to Megadeth to Herbie Hancock and Chick Corea. You really don't know what you're talking about.

[TheRic2345]

@Oneness100 wanker!

[paisteguy799]

yeaaa melvin

[preachaboy77712]

Wow...this is when BET actually GOOD, MEANINGFUL PROGRAMMING!

[paulf56]

Melvin Davis is Sounding as Bodacious as ever & with Vinnie are The rhythm section from hell.......... Brilliant 

[drgonz1]

insert south park bass joke here...

that bass is ridiculous!

pocket groove out of this world!

[jnmdjc957]

He's playing Trumpet and Keyboard at the same time... He's playing the Trumpet and a Keyboard at the same time... He's a man, and he's multi-tasking... My mind doesn't seem to be able to digest the concept!

[nickwintersdrums]

As soon as you hear that backbeat....you KNOW its Vinnie! Knowone else!

[Carlamusiclover]

Listen to Vinnie doing "Humpty Dumpty" with Chick Corea, then driving the Buddy Rich Big Band, then wailing through "Stratus" with Jeff Beck, and come back listen to this masterful backbeat -then dare to say he's not one of the best drummers in the history of the instrument!

[MrJoshJazz]

is that guy a horn playing keyboard player or a keyboard playing horn player

[rhanielvalle]

Toca horreres, um mostro da batera

[steeldustbronze]

Chaka who? This is Vinnie freakin' Calaiuta! Even when Vinnie's in the pocket he makes the highlight reel.

[peter130257]

Don't forget Melvin Davis. He creates opportunities

[lc11752]

i woud hear Jeff Porcaro !!!!!

[MrRedrocket42]

Vinnie owns the pocket here. Tight is just where this begins.

[nocanpau]

Anis sweetbread

[diddi1311]

No cotton picking that night. Vinnie´s on fire.

[junglemad80]

Dinner jazz funk!!!!!

[Wecklmania]

wow =)

[samheardrum]

mmmmmmm..... wake up and smell the groove..

[samm1809]

man that pianist must get FUCKLOADS of work multitasking like that

[GuyMagicFingers]

LOL - I was thinking the same thing - I'd better take up the flugel hahahaaa

[phatnastee]

wow

[mydrumsarebetter]

His snare sounds killer!

[DyingSID666]

@mydrumsarebetter they always do

[snickaren71]

I realy like Vinnie alot and I have found a good clip here at youtube were Vinnie is playing drums on the michael jackson cover "the way you make me feel" with Paul Anka and a big band.

The way Vinnie is leading the band in the band shout in the middle of the song is amazing.

search for Paul Anka cover michael jackson

Good luck

[tamburo66]

Thanks for mention the cover....This is one of the best Vinnie pieces I know

[webstercat]

@snickaren71

Thanks for the Paul Anka prize. Vinnie just plays so beautiful and unique. Didn't see the video but could tell it was Vinnie by his sound. Smoking!!!!!!

[totomcgrath]

nailed!

[NicholasFoti]

I have never heard a sicker backbeat in my life - absolutely perfect

[marc777danielle]

@NicholasFoti i actually first saw this on BET when it original aired in the 90's and vinnie's playing is still as fresh as it was when i first saw this clip.

[NicholasFoti]

@marc777danielle : dude thanks for the comment, it took me back to this video!

[sevenoverthree]

@ Drummaman75- LOL well put, sir. Look for the horn/timpani action on the unreleased cuts!

[lklkhjhjdfs]

y'en a pas assez !!!!

[splashy44]

sum 1 here stated that "Vinnies funk-shuffle pocket isn't as deep as some"!!??

what a crappy, random comment that is to say about a guy that is so good at playing...FUNK SHUFFLES!!

[seasondrummer]

pity..so short

[DrummaMan75]

I love this clip because the fugal horn player is playing keys at the same time...very "guffman" of him.

Vinnie is amazing because in one week he played with Faith Hill, Sting, and Megadeth. I don't know of any drummer that can do that and sound authentic.

[bdrums777]

totally agree. he is a freakin musical chameleon. one of the greatest.

[ilovesolfege]

he's perfect....i think he could place that backbeat later though. but that's vinnie's sound....perfection, in every way.

[stretch54]

If Vinnie placed the backbeat any later he would be dragging the song down. His pocket sounds pretty good to me. Maybe he could play less though.

[ilovesolfege]

oops......wrong comment. i'm dumb

[pastalavista]

Hey, there`s nothing wrong with having an opinion! I know what you mean - I can hear it laying right on the back of the beat too. Jeff Pocaro used to do that to great effect! Vinnie is still one of my favourite drummers, where ever he chooses to put the back beat! Remember, Some people can`t hear it!

[randylikesdrums]

dude. you could seriously take anything Vinnie Plays and put it right on a mastered album. He plays so perfect. SICK!

[Aplustradomus]

TRue that

[marc777danielle]

is this the BET jazz stuff chaka did?

[carterito]

and why is he awesome????...

[jaydigz]

Cause he can play anything. Right now you're hearing him do mellow. He can flip it and do ninja tricks with other bands. Do some more searchin.

[ibangstuff]

HAHAHAHA "ninja" tricks. Never heard that term being used like that.

Very Very true tho.

[marc777danielle]

oh man sooo true.

[annmall100]

Why is he awesome? There's a really good answer to that question. If you go to vinniecolaiuta. com / articles / drummagazine03. aspx , you will be able to read a really awesome story from Steve Vai ! (Sorry, I would post the u r l, but my comment doesn't appear if it has any special characters???)

In short, and in the words of Vai "He is an alien" !!!

[eddy71454]

Well "caterito" you are considered pretty awesome when you have had over 1000 people pay you to perform on their records. And when you are voted the most significant drummer of the past 25 years, that would also qualify you as awesome I figure. Doesn't require you to like him though. To each his own..,but the majority disagrees with you.

[Herbalizer1]

Vinnie has such and incredible feel. His so inspirational.

[alessiotesta]

where is vinnie??? what a fucker video!!!

[Pcapelas]

You must be deaf, stupid

[ibangstuff]

he's not deaf, he just didnt see him. Don't be mean, idiot. Vinnie is shown in like 1:24. You can see his face.

[jordangrant1989]

wat is the song called

[dev3553]

i cant understand that... why is there so much Vinnie's fans? why? and for Mr Tony Williams? his father? tony don't GRROVE like a brian blade or anyone true groover... He's great, great technique of course.. but sorry not my type of groove/sound... he's a good solo guy for me :) yes i provocate ;) but i think that

[dinomod1]

See the promotors of this gig even stinge out on Musicians of this high level (check the Octopus armed Trumpet player).. Why pay for two musicians??

[MisterB747]

killer piano - fantastic Vinnie, punchy snare drum bammmmmm - the groove 5 - 30 seconds ... sublime!!

[doubts]

Smooth as you like. Whole band are great. VC controls his anger well.

[Moog167]

I know I'm gonna sound dumb saying this but Vinnie has anger problems?

What do you mean?

[doubts]

Watch some of the other VC stuff on youtube.

His anger is a delight.

Tony williams was even more angry!

[Moog167]

I watched plenty of VC and TW clips I just I don't understand what you mean by "angry"

[doubts]

Music enables musicians to express a whole range of different human emotions. I went to see RTF last month and experienced just about every one. Yes.. there is plenty of joy and beauty, but there is also pain and suffering. Look at the history of modern music. Maybe im wrong... im no scholar.

[Moog167]

OHHHH

I get what you're saying!!!

Okay....I feel dumb now...lol

[ShanilROX]

you mean when he is drumming??? you mean to say aggresive? he seems to be a really nice guy in this video i saw- humble....

[Moog167]

Yes....when he is drumming....I was confused by doubt's comment too....

[rr111160]

Happy Birthday,Joe Morello! 80 and still getting after it! Best Wishes to the King.

[jason13drummer]

great discussions going on with this one. have yall checked out Sting's Live version of "Seven Days"? Vinnie is amazing on the kit with that chart. his licks at the end of the tune are from another universe. not to mention what a great tune it is.

[blacjazzz]

who is the bassist on this one? does anyone know?

[thomasbrinkley]

Melvin Davis. He's a bad, bad man!

[homerinchinatown2]

Love how some people throw around insults then get high and mighty when people react to them. Manipulative much?

As for jazz, there's more than one way to swing. Blakey was different from Tony, who was different from Buddy or Elvin, etc. Which is the right way, then?

For someone to say they don't dig Vinnie's groove is fine. For someone to say that Vinnie doesn't 'feel jazz' implies that there is a right way to groove. Maybe he would think that you don't feel it...? So who's right...?

[moderndrummer1]

Anyone who says Vinnie doesn't feel jazz obviously hasn't heard Vinnie with the Randy Waldman Trio on Wigged Out. Once you hear that you'll know without any doubt that Vinnie is one of the FINEST JAZZ DRUMMERS EVER.

[jonathanrenoult]

Le claviériste joue de la trompette en même temps ! :|

[colewilliams]

You're all brainwashed. How can you sit and listen to this sleaze? Jesus, this worse than fucking Kenny G - And Vinnie couldn't swing if his life depended on it. He is a monster with Zappa, but he can't play jazz- go listen to Blakey and Elvin

[Croatch]

You should give him some pointers.

[colewilliams]

By saying that, you only prove my point that people are so brainwashed into having a godly image of someone that anyone's criticism of that playing is blasphemous. I'm simply pointing out the fact that Vinnie is not in his element when he is playing jazz.

And swing isn't something you point out. It's something you feel. Vinnie doesn't. Gadd doesn't. Most rock-oriented drummers just don't understand.

[Croatch]

I would agree there too. Gadd has a poor swing/jazz feel.  You can have your favorite drummers, but to ridicule someone like Gadd for a poor feel...is comical.

[colewilliams]

Agreed.

[Croatch]

I'm glad. I thought you were insane for a second. I understand what you mean by good feel though. Great chops, doesn't equal feel.

See Thomas Lang:)

[Milessoul]

He is getting income from drumming, while we are in the 9-5.

[stretch54]

what a crock! listen to "them there eyes" from this set or some of the other videos with Colaiuta on them like the one with russell ferrante and jimmy haslip and tell me he can't swing. you apparently haven't listened to him very much.

[colewilliams]

Stretch,

Wonderful video you recommended!

I really enjoyed watching all these toe tapping, head nodding, bourgeois yuppies listening to a sub-mediocre singer with a "swing" so dead that you'd have to check for a pulse.

I have no way of knowing where your musical background is or who you listen to, but based on your rec, I'm gonna take a stab and say that you probably aren't a trained musician who finds excitement in rhythm, harmonic structure, and counterpoint.

[NovaNeolith]

Music is for the audience, not the musician alone. I am a trained musician, but I don't stick my head above the crowd thinking I am supreme. Knock down the ego a bit, that's why no one can stand anyone who came out of Berkely college of music!! Obnoxious snobs!!

[trwylekat]

No one knows musicians without superegos... whats your name again?

[NovaNeolith]

???????

[cpdrumming]

Don't hate man....

[plaid311]

I do appreciate what you're trying to say, Cole, but when it comes to swinging, there are just different feels. No, Vinnie can't swing like Tony/Elvin/etc, but he *can* swing. I don't mean to start a flame war, but Neil Peart is an example of someone who *can't* swing. (bless him for trying). Vinnie is definitely coming from a Fusion/Rock base in his playing, but I personally think that that only adds to his swinging. His funk shuffle pocket isn't as deep as some, but he still owns it.

[plaid311]

I do appreciate what you're trying to say, Cole, but when it comes to swinging, there are just different feels. No, Vinnie can't swing like Tony/Elvin/etc, but he *can* swing. I don't mean to start a flame war, but Neil Peart is an example of someone who *can't* swing. (bless him for trying). Vinnie is definitely coming from a Fusion/Rock base in his playing, but I personally think that that only adds to his swinging. His funk shuffle pocket isn't as deep as some, but he still owns it.

[NovaNeolith]

is the rest of this performance available? can you post it!! please!!?? Cool stuff, Vinnie is such a huge inspiration for what you can acheive...!!

[JonWaking]

Playing trumpet AND keys at the same time?? That's just too much! Bit like a Kinder surprise, "Chocolate AND a toy". Amazing!

[logosthedestroyer]

Hmm I'm afraid he really messes the groove up though by playing the keyboard part very out of time :(

[whuataaaaah]

where is the whole song????????

[whuataaaaah]

that snare!!!

[thebrandnew88]

è un basso che può essere suonato solo da lui, perchè solo lui lo sa suonare come si deve in questo tipo di ambito jazz fusion. cmq colaiuta riesce a sconvolgerci la vita musicale, guardatevi gli altri concerti di vinnie, ed è veramente un batterista assurdo, ha tutto quello che un batterista dovrebbe avere: calore, istinto, pazzia, virtuosismo,aggressività, adattamento ai vari generi che nn è facile, infatti lui sa suonare tutti i generi, nel modo più musicale e completo possibile....!!!

[jerrywitaj]

Funny to listen to Vinnie playing it "straight". Its like Elton John buying his clothes at London Fog.

[schwene2]

that's what sessionists do when it's not their gig

[jerrywitaj]

NO KIDDING?? Gee, thanks for the studio musician 101 lession...I NEVER knew that!!

[splashy44]

i have this dvd..and vinnie is not restricted to just playing "time"..he lets loose a little,its a great dvd..buy it.

[143greendrums]

I HAVE IT TOO, IT'S SWEET RIGHT?

[paulo101]

If this is Vinnie "playing time", then I'm happy to just watch him play time to be honest.

[stretch54]

playing time is what vinnie does on most of the stuff he plays on. but because he is such a virtuoso and intimidator to other drummers, his ability to just listen and play music seems to get lost. His musical ears are really why he is(according to Modern Drummer polls) voted the top drummer alive.

[Milessoul]

Yes ! I love the groove !

[schwene2]

me too!

[drums4praise]

That's the thing about Vinnie's drumming: in one setting, he'll go crazy and be all over the place. But then he can morph and in another setting he will lay down a groove that'll have you tapping your foot or bobbin' your head the whole way through. Versatility baby!!!

[logosthedestroyer]

You can get this DVD from amazon... if you buy r1 its v cheap. And yes, it is all this good..

[adriancete]

ooh, the teacher Melvin Lee Davis on the bass

[splashy44]

if any1 is interested in geting the full dvd there are 2 copies left on ebay (irishticketseller)he ships worldwide,this is a must see for any serious drummer.

[Mihail99pap]

Vinnie plays great like always.But he brought in my mind the only one king of shuffle.The drummers know.......

[tapirdrummer]

Jeff Porcaro eh?

[eskimoposh]

Pretty Purdie, tapidrummer. Check out Steely Dan's "Home at Last". The bible of shuffle tunes.

[Mihail99pap]

yes,Jeff was the king of shuffle in my opinion.Thanks.!

[rogersat]

Jeff was the man, but he said him self he took the half-shuffle from Bernard Purdie. So I'd consider Jeff the prince ;).

[Mihail99pap]

you are right rogersat but somehow I feel closer to Jeff's playing.I mean it has something...more than a shuffle in his shuffle grooves.Anyway you're right and so is eskimoposh.greetings!

[splashy44]

fucksakes!!!! were can i get the dvd please!!!!???

[RaulGuereca]

vinne awesome like ever

[orestesettin]

very good sound

[Amazz]

You can buy this on DVD its called Chaka Khan live in concert but its for a BET Jazz Channel so its her covers of jazz standards. Although she also has a couple of original chaka tracks there too. Hope this helps?

[juhzampieron]

Actually it's also available for download in certain p2p network, and with a pretty high resolution. Thank you for your post.

[Drumm37]

does anyone know where this clip comes from? would love to see the whole concert! please advise!