Good debate, Draper is far more knowledgeable then most other atheists WLC has debated, so knowing that Draper is actually an agnostic showes that theism has at least some rational ground. Would have been nice if they had extra rebuttals, though. I know WLC has, in his scholarly work, dealt with most of the remaining criticisms that Draper raises in his rebutal and Q&A period. Also loved WLC's answer to the "can God make a stone to heavy for him to lift?"-question (at 6:58 ) .
This is probably the best debate I've seen from the atheist side. All of the others I've seen just look unprepared when debating Craig but Draper did pretty well. Nice debate overall.
Agreed. I myself am a non-believer and thought Craig dismantled Hitchens decisively in the Biola debate but I think Draper put forth a thoughtful critique. He is thus far Craig's most formidable opponent that I've heard.
indacod, have you listened to Arif Ahmed's debate with Craig? In my opinion Ahmed did extremely well - it's definitely something to check out if you haven't already.
Hi FireproofAshes - thanks for the suggestion; I searched for the Ahmed/Craig debate on youtube but to no avail. Would you be able to provide a link? I did, however, take the time to watch Ahmed/Habermas following your advice...I heard about Habermas's tenacity when I read "Case for Christ" but Ahmed handily tore him apart...I genuinely felt sorry for Habermas, no joke.
Good debate, Draper is far more knowledgeable then most other atheists WLC has debated, so knowing that Draper is actually an agnostic showes that theism has at least some rational ground. Would have been nice if they had extra rebuttals, though. I know WLC has, in his scholarly work, dealt with most of the remaining criticisms that Draper raises in his rebutal and Q&A period. Also loved WLC's answer to the "can God make a stone to heavy for him to lift?"-question (at 6:58 ) .
switchfootfan7777 7 months ago
This is probably the best debate I've seen from the atheist side. All of the others I've seen just look unprepared when debating Craig but Draper did pretty well. Nice debate overall.
Glycogenic 2 years ago
Agreed. I myself am a non-believer and thought Craig dismantled Hitchens decisively in the Biola debate but I think Draper put forth a thoughtful critique. He is thus far Craig's most formidable opponent that I've heard.
indacod 2 years ago
indacod, have you listened to Arif Ahmed's debate with Craig? In my opinion Ahmed did extremely well - it's definitely something to check out if you haven't already.
FireproofAshes 2 years ago
Hi FireproofAshes - thanks for the suggestion; I searched for the Ahmed/Craig debate on youtube but to no avail. Would you be able to provide a link? I did, however, take the time to watch Ahmed/Habermas following your advice...I heard about Habermas's tenacity when I read "Case for Christ" but Ahmed handily tore him apart...I genuinely felt sorry for Habermas, no joke.
indacod 2 years ago
I'm sending the link in a pm; it's just audio, no video.
And yes, Ahmed destroyed Habermas. XD
FireproofAshes 2 years ago 2
@FireproofAshes
yes, I think I saw that one.. not sure. But it is in audio off-site.
Not sure who uploaded craig vs ahmed, and why it got removed..
Ahmed was really good.
jameshanley40 1 year ago
Not even one reaction yet? Shameful! Thanks for uploading this. Good and bad points on both sides. I enjoyed listening to it.
rexwierenga 2 years ago
I know eh? Hopefully you got the ball rolling.
TimeEffect 2 years ago