@arcellus I have no idea why the mexican fenders get such a bad rep. This upload shows how great this series is. If you don't have $1,500.00 to spend on an american series then the mexican series IS the diamond in the rough.
@monkeypie420 In the 60's, there were some west coast sessions (like Brenda Holloway's "Every Little Bit Hurts" or the Supermes' "Love Is Here And Now You're Gone") where Carol Kaye may have played bass. But Kaye never played on any Detroit sessions. By all accounts "Bernadette" was recorded entirely in Detroit, and Jamerson was the bassist.
@sp1midholm allthough this is true it is a bit of a pointless technique when it is simpler to use two fingers... the reason why he used one finger was becuase he took the transition from upright to electric bass and at the time it seemed logical to use one finger... but yes you are correct
man u have inspired me... Love the song, love the bass line. It was all perfectly in time and not a single flicker of fret buzz. I bow to u and ur supreme funky skills!
I hear this bassline a lot played right on top of the beat, if not, ahead of it. You, however, are laying it down in the pocket. Dead on ghost notes, sweet playing. Many people don't realize it's the bass that gets heads bobbing.
hey emmettk. Saw your comment. Actually for you all look up the DVD standing in the shadow of Motown. Jamerson's son even comments,,,his dad could play more notes with one finger than he could with all of his. And as my brother reminded me,,,lets not for get other legends like Donald "Duck" Dunn.
and you are right ,,,use all the fingers.. get the job done, Stiill a nice play along!!!
that is pure blasplemy to say or believe that carol kaye is the author of this masterpiece please check your motown history you will find carol has been laying claim to quite a few bass line that are unmistakebly james jamerson.
@megarobapboom That's not true. Carol Kaye didn't join the session band till Jamerson left for L.A., and that was after the label left Detroit. I think that was in '72, but either way it was definately in the '70's. This song was recorded in '67 and Jamerson was still on bass.
@lacy235 lol, yeah in the book about him (Standing in the shadows of Mowtown) it even says that, once exposed to the common two finger plucking technique, he shunned it over claiming : "Thats pure sissy stuff right there!" XD
Mind you, arcellus, im not saying that about your playing, bro, you nailed it right, the sixteenth notes flowing with very good timing! Keep up the good work!!
holy snap if I have to see another comment about J.J playing with one finger....!!!!!!! you'd think if someone is a big enough bass geek to watch J.J videos on here they probably already know that. So sorry, you aren't dropping some mind blowing bass secrets on us.
as amazing as what this kid is playing... its hard to beleive somebody thought of it 45 years earlier with no blueprint to follow... using one finger to play it
its weird thing about the lips i do the same when playing bass,its almost like my body is trying 2 sing the melody out,i wonder what the true reason is??great bass playing by the way you really got the feel of it.
Very nice. I recently bought the DVD "Standing in the Shadows of Motown". And I really love Jamerson/Babbit. I owned a P-Bass in the mid 70's and still have the 1964 Ampeg B15NC that I bought about the same time.
I was using an American Jazz and EB Stingray for the last 15 years but after seeing Bod Babbit, I'm pining for a P-Bass again. I local dealer is selling the Mexican P-Bass in black for at a super low price.... ohhh my.
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Nice playing for sure. Gotta love good Jamerson covers. But please go easy on the lips. Relax. Don't try to suck'em, tuck'em, and swallow'em in. Get yer groove on with another look 'cause at this point, yer lookin' like a dried up pumpkin. But keep do'in what yer do'in with the bass.
aw, leave him alone! Haven't you ever seen the facial contortions of top rockers who are getting into their groove? His lip contortions are nothing compared to what's out there. It's like saying 'hey--relax that o-face!"
The P-bass was made by Fender in the 60's. You can tell the P by the split pickups. The Jazz bass has long skinny pickups. The P-bass was made famous by James Jamerson and Jaco Pastorious.
fantstic mate did you know this was james first crack at precision? well done you are mint mate, before this funk brothers had double bass...thankyou x
I wish all perfectionIsts would be isolated in Austrailia. That way they can make A new Perfectionist Race and reeK a perfect havoc on the less Perfect. THE WAR BEGINS IN 2019.
Carol Kaye made the remake with the Beach Boys but tried to lay claims to this version until Alan Slutsky made her fess up after sworn avidavits from other musicians who played on this recording had stated they never heard of her before. Thats because Carol never played with Motown in Detroit only in LA after this was recorded.
True true....She was almost always West Coast/Hollywod/L.A. based & apparently never counted on the surviving Funk Brothers & Detroit insiders coming 4ward & dismissing her Motown claims....With her impressive list of guitar & bass credits on both record & screen, Y did she need 2 wait until Jamerson & other founding Funk Brothers had died 2 start this sh*t? It's an insult 2 Jamerson's memory.
Man I'm tellin ya, you're a good bass player, but just like another poster said, just hold the notes a little longer would be verbatim, and the right feel, cause you've got it... just a little more fluid, your more stacatto interpretation is just fine... just I'm a great admirer of James Jamerson's work, my poor excuse :-)
I'm a perfectionist, and the only difference I can hear is you don't hold the notes long enough.
Now I know that is miliseconds or studio magic, but the only thing that separates you from James Jamerson in this song, is the length of time you hold the note, particularly, the root notes.
Other than that, dead on, you make it look so easy, and that's a tall order given you're playing a line from JJ.
Bernadette was recorded in 67, and by 64 Motown was recording 8 channels. I would not be surprised at all that JJ recorded his double bass on top of the electric bass line.
This is pure James Jamerson. As far as I'm concerned he was the best damn bass player out of Motown. You do a very nice job. This bass line has always been one of my favorites.
There is a BBC2 radio interview of the writers and producers of Bernadette that proves it is a Detroit product of the Motown Record Company. Anything else that has the bass of CK on it is another thing all together. I have attached a video spot to this thread with the voice of Harry Weinger (Motown archivist) that should make mr. scott's assertions go away...
Sounds great, try and rig up the sponge, and watch it sound REALLY authentic. Ive made that recommendation on at least one other of these forums, but try it, you'll be surprised at how tight it sounds!
Those who have enough true interest in JJ & CK, google "lost my athletic scholarship after participating in the civil rights sit-in". From that page about Frank Wilson (& note "regulars"): "The[...] musicians for [a particular late '65 Motown session] were pulled from the studio regulars that included[...] Carol Kaye[....] As far as it can be established the tapes were dispatched to Detroit [in] November 1965, where they were mixed by Lawrence Horn for submission to Billie Jean Brown."
Quote from Frank Wilson from that page, which says "Frank Wilson March 2009" near the top: "Gordy came out several times [to L.A....] [W]e were taking [him] to the airport[...] and he said, 'What makes you think you can produce?', I said, 'Because I've been producing much of the stuff that you've been hearing'. So he turned to Marc [Gordon] and Hal [Davis]. He said, 'Is that right?' And they said, 'Yes, that's right'." (Matches very well claims CK made to me JNS about 8 years ago)
More from that page about Frank Wilson: "When Berry Gordy decided to open a West Coast Motown office, following his visit there to attend a disc jockey convention in 1963, he asked L.A. veterans Hal Davis, and Marc Gordon to take charge." (Matches what CK's been saying publicly for years -- frequently resulting in scornful reactions from her energetic detractors)
More from that F. Wilson page you can find by googling "I lost my athletic scholarship after participating in the civil rights sit-in demonstrations": "During 1964-65 Frank [Wilson] saw an increasing number of his compositions being released[....] Frank[...] soon found himself[...] supervising recording sessions.[...] At some point in 1965 the decision was taken to launch Frank Wilson as a Motown artist in his own right[... recording in] Armin Steiner's 8 track Sound Recorders studio[....]"
Here is part of a 2/18/2002 (2:03 P.M.) post on the Soulful Detroit Forum: "[...] I'm Billy Wilson President of the Motown Alumni Association.[...] Carol did play on a few lesser know recordings at Motown . . . and I do mean LESSER KNOWN! [...] From 1964 to 1968 the company only used Jamerson." Note that that last sentence contradicts that Frank Wilson page, on which Andrew Rix describes Kaye as one of the "regulars" in L.A. as of '65. (cont.)
Note that Billy Wilson presents himself in the 2/18/2002 post as knowing who played bass on every 1964-1968 Motown recording. (!!!) Now check this out from the same post: "The Motown Alumni Associaton provides information and gives assistance to entities such as the Library Of Congress, the Smithsonian Institute, Motown/Universal Music Group [this is people like Harry Weinger] ,Rythum & Blues Foundation, Motown artists[...]" Should we be surprised there's a Kaye-is-a-liar myth?
Quote from Armin Steiner, Mix magazine interview with Maureen Droney, 2001; compare it to Frank Wilson who was there -- and then to Billy Wilson, and to the Kaye detractors' myths: "From that moment on, word started traveling. Motown got interested, and I was busy all the time. I had Glen Campbell, Billy Strange, Tommy Tedesco, Dennis Budamir, [...] Ray Pohlman[...]. Hal Blaine, Earl Palmer, Joe Osborne, Larry Knecht[e]l[...]" (cont.)
"[...] Bill Pittman, Mike Deasy and, of course, Carol Kaye.[...] I used to have The Supremes up there, Marvin Gaye — my mother used to cook for them. Stevie Wonder was in when he was 9 years old. People think I'm making this stuff up, but it's true. As a matter of fact, I did a film session with Stevie awhile back, and he remembered both me and my studio. It was a different time, a different place. You couldn't do that kind of thing now, the city wouldn't allow it. I mean, it was all illegal."
From the notes to the 2000 4-CD Supremes box set: "A note on the track annotations: Recording dates are culled from the original Detroit session logs, which were begun in summer 1961 to coordinate the bookings of the basement studio at 2648 West Grand Boulevard. The logs generally do not list recording dates for live tapings or 'outside' sessions i.e., New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles - unless the dates were noted upon the tapes' return to Detroit." (cont.)
(cont. from prev.) Slutsky, 2000: "Most damning of all was the Motown studio log. Carol sent me hers [i.e. her handwritten logs of sessions she played in L.A] thirteen years ago. The dates don't line up anywhere. When we checked the recording dates of the specific disputed Motown hits she claims to have played on, Carol's log always was at odds." Detroit logs didn't list sessions that CK claims were non-union & in L.A.? Uh, OK. Was AS not intellectually dishonest here, but just confused? (cont.)
(cont. from prev.) CK sent me (JNS) some of her logs years ago, & I checked them against non-Motown sources she would have hard a time knowing about, & they _did_ match. But then, I wasn't checking them against a "book" that was created in order to log _Detroit_ recording sessions! I concluded that her logs were of the vintage claimed, including the lines where "Motown" was written. And to the best of my understanding anyone who suggests those logs are phony is misleading people (but why?).
More on JJ and CK: Harry Weinger works for _Universal_ and has access to Motown master tapes. Weinger takes Slutsky seriously as a researcher. Is Weinger's only source for JJ on bass on SW's "I Made To Love Her" Slutsky? Is Slutsky's story that Benjamin's nickname being heard on the master of it proves that _Jamerson_ was present a reasonable story? Could Kaye and Benjamin have recorded together in LA, for instance? Who says Benjamin didn't session in LA? Slutsky, you say? Why does he say that?
Great feel. Nailed it!
migrantwing 2 weeks ago
Don't bother trying to better this this guy is spot on !
peterg917 3 weeks ago
Nailed it!!!
TrackRat 1 month ago
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capnandeez 2 months ago
@arcellus I have no idea why the mexican fenders get such a bad rep. This upload shows how great this series is. If you don't have $1,500.00 to spend on an american series then the mexican series IS the diamond in the rough.
nuke97 2 months ago
Just perfect!
nmariam123 2 months ago
Man, You are good on that bass. I notice your other axes there to your back-right.You are truly a force to be reckoned. With. heh
slightofffist 2 months ago
sweet as a nut lovely playing
mikebithell 2 months ago
That bass line is Carol Kaye.
monkeypie420 2 months ago
@monkeypie420 In the 60's, there were some west coast sessions (like Brenda Holloway's "Every Little Bit Hurts" or the Supermes' "Love Is Here And Now You're Gone") where Carol Kaye may have played bass. But Kaye never played on any Detroit sessions. By all accounts "Bernadette" was recorded entirely in Detroit, and Jamerson was the bassist.
Meridian83West 2 months ago
@monkeypie420 If you do the research you'll find it was indeed Jamerson.
bassistdc 2 months ago
I totally need to learn that song
SgtZaqq 3 months ago
Jamerson wouldn't let Carol Kaye lick his cock!!! Peace x
smokinjoe1984 3 months ago
Good work man. I ain't mad at 'cha.
SirManUp 5 months ago
Great authentic feeling.
CrestVisionInc 5 months ago
i think you got a really nice tone for this song well done! awesome playing
leveeisbroken 6 months ago
Great stuff!
tedmilk 6 months ago
nice tone, nice playing and nice looking bass to boot
carsonawesome 6 months ago
If you're still finding your voice on the P-Bass, I'd like to hear you when you finally get the hang of it. Lol.
125jlm 6 months ago
AWESOME
stud4man 6 months ago
Nice, nice.
xwsftassell 6 months ago
Great sound, however I think JJ played this with his right index finger only - known as 'the hook'. However, you sound great!
sp1midholm 7 months ago
@sp1midholm allthough this is true it is a bit of a pointless technique when it is simpler to use two fingers... the reason why he used one finger was becuase he took the transition from upright to electric bass and at the time it seemed logical to use one finger... but yes you are correct
leveeisbroken 6 months ago
your rad dude
punkrob13 7 months ago
Awesome playing and an awesome track
MattBlickDotCom 7 months ago
nice feeling...keep repping motown.
jaylow7 7 months ago
nicely done
grig26 8 months ago
fantastic. i am trying to learn this song right now. its a killer
00RainbowLove00 8 months ago
Top notch my friend, good stuff
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anthonykalcic 8 months ago
You make it look so easy.
I'm proud of you.
anthonykalcic 8 months ago
Woo hoo! Great job! Can you do it for the Supremes song "Reflections"? Thanks!
chicotower 8 months ago
smoking brother! I'm diggin it.
striperlouie 8 months ago
Hey!That was a sublime cover well done you nailed it!!!!!Could you give a tutorial on this please?
Ilikeeggs000 9 months ago
man u have inspired me... Love the song, love the bass line. It was all perfectly in time and not a single flicker of fret buzz. I bow to u and ur supreme funky skills!
quasimodoisation 9 months ago
Tip top work.
TrunkFullOFunk 9 months ago
What's your opinion on the Badass II bridge?
I want to get one on my mexican standard fender precision but I'm afraid It'll kill my low ends and make my bass sound like a guitar D:
CircusEnvy23 10 months ago
I hear this bassline a lot played right on top of the beat, if not, ahead of it. You, however, are laying it down in the pocket. Dead on ghost notes, sweet playing. Many people don't realize it's the bass that gets heads bobbing.
brickenskye 10 months ago
@brickenskye
Gets the head bobbing.... and the booty shaking ;)
TrunkFullOFunk 9 months ago
hey emmettk. Saw your comment. Actually for you all look up the DVD standing in the shadow of Motown. Jamerson's son even comments,,,his dad could play more notes with one finger than he could with all of his. And as my brother reminded me,,,lets not for get other legends like Donald "Duck" Dunn.
and you are right ,,,use all the fingers.. get the job done, Stiill a nice play along!!!
lacy235 10 months ago
Nice play along indeed but I have to concur with lacy235; Now try it with just the thumb! That's a whole other ball of wax LOL
good job though!
9999alexjack 11 months ago
that is pure blasplemy to say or believe that carol kaye is the author of this masterpiece please check your motown history you will find carol has been laying claim to quite a few bass line that are unmistakebly james jamerson.
mrbrownbear3 11 months ago
The bass line is played by Carol Kaye. (Mentioned in her website)
Regardless of that, your performance and tone is good.
megarobapboom 11 months ago
@megarobapboom maybe you should ask people who where around when this song was made. anyone can out anything on a website
mjjcng8958 7 months ago
@megarobapboom That's not true. Carol Kaye didn't join the session band till Jamerson left for L.A., and that was after the label left Detroit. I think that was in '72, but either way it was definately in the '70's. This song was recorded in '67 and Jamerson was still on bass.
Sunderlanding 6 months ago
Ohhhhhhh Snap! You really got it down! Have my baby!!! ( Just kiddin') Talented Man!
Seriouly...Get your hands insured!
aholmes99 11 months ago
Ohhhhhhh Snap! You really got it down! Have my baby!!! ( Just kiddin') Talented Man
aholmes99 11 months ago
Top Notch....nice one brother
soulbrother61 11 months ago
Hey, nice play along . Really! Thing is,,,he was the HOOK. Try it with one finger right hand. Get back to us on that,
lacy235 11 months ago
@lacy235 Doesn't matter one bit how many fingers he's using as long as he gets the job done.
emmettk 10 months ago
@lacy235 lol, yeah in the book about him (Standing in the shadows of Mowtown) it even says that, once exposed to the common two finger plucking technique, he shunned it over claiming : "Thats pure sissy stuff right there!" XD
Mind you, arcellus, im not saying that about your playing, bro, you nailed it right, the sixteenth notes flowing with very good timing! Keep up the good work!!
Audiojorge 9 months ago
YOOO My Brother whats your set up!!?? Precision Bass!!?? What year and what amp and strings!!??
bentpolski 1 year ago
Excellent!
flashframe7777 1 year ago
I gotta get some lessons off of you!!!
bentpolski 1 year ago
Very nice!!! Let's see you do it with "The Hook"....
BLKBETE11 1 year ago
what eq settings do you use? this was great ;)
paoloilmonopalla94 1 year ago
Damn dude that was great!!!!
geman61 1 year ago
holy snap if I have to see another comment about J.J playing with one finger....!!!!!!! you'd think if someone is a big enough bass geek to watch J.J videos on here they probably already know that. So sorry, you aren't dropping some mind blowing bass secrets on us.
rhettco52 1 year ago
nice flow, man..keep up the good work !
TheBlueCream 1 year ago
How in the world did James Jamerson do that with ONE finger? Amazing...
fall98 1 year ago
what strings are you using?
Dagreat 1 year ago
Oohhhh yeaahhh! That's very nice :~)
whatanightmare1 1 year ago
SICKKK MAN love it keep um coming
joshmawtus123 1 year ago
Absolutely Brtilliant i take my Hat off to you
TheTrooper442 1 year ago
Your dexterity is amazing. Any tips on how I can improve mine?
MDVEEJAZZ 1 year ago
Now you have to try it with one finger. This is how he played all his bass lines. Good luck.
erase12 1 year ago
@erase12 hahahahaha
michaelmcmichaelson 1 year ago
yeah..great bass part on this song.. i like stillwaters run deep too.
broozebrothers 1 year ago
I like the five string in the back...
fizXwolf 1 year ago
Nice playing!
And now picture Jamerson playing this only with "the Hook".
intrepidro 1 year ago
AWESOME! You just need 2 things - a mute and flatwound strings!
howianna 1 year ago
this is tied with Disorder by Joy Division as my favorite bass line. Those two bass lines are so melodically jarring they're perfect.
harveybullocks1281 1 year ago
awesome!!!
motownmania 1 year ago
Lovin it!!
bladesaint21 1 year ago
hey man, Awesome chops, I play this song a lot. what finish is your P Bass? its got a nice depth to it, or its just the camera...
haniFEKALJA 1 year ago
JJ did it with one finger too. He was a beast like no other. Great job man tackling this line.
dglickstbass 1 year ago
I'm trying to learn this song, but I can't figure out how to play that fill at 0:13. Could somebody help me with that?
Dkbass0 1 year ago
The guy is good. He studied one of the masters! James Jamerson lives!
StreetSmartVideo 1 year ago
You gave me goosebumps, dude.
mjs3888 1 year ago
Well done, man. Wish I could work with more bass players with your groove & chops.
nosnetromj 1 year ago
well done m8. nice 1. cute too
TnSification 1 year ago
as amazing as what this kid is playing... its hard to beleive somebody thought of it 45 years earlier with no blueprint to follow... using one finger to play it
Bktracks 1 year ago
Son u got some serious chops on u! Jamerson is definitely smiling. Keep up the good work chief.
robbo1324 1 year ago 3
You tackled Mr. Jameson's most difficult part-way to go!!!!
perc707 1 year ago
James Jamerson is listening in.......he is pleased
ACarbonBasedLifeForm 1 year ago
you look good!
tonyaustin72 1 year ago
Sounds good. Let that bass get some funk settled in.....you'll be great!
pastcheck 1 year ago
Brillant. No doubt you got that feel for the bass and that particular track. NICE.
James Jamersons style is very special and when i hear this song i'm always humming the bass part. love it.
UBZUKI 1 year ago
its weird thing about the lips i do the same when playing bass,its almost like my body is trying 2 sing the melody out,i wonder what the true reason is??great bass playing by the way you really got the feel of it.
roscopeco2000 1 year ago
james jamerson is amazing
puggoMD1 1 year ago
Pity about the sync problem. Solid as always though.
hahabass 1 year ago
Look's like a Fender Special Run, made in Mexico, ash body. I know because I have one just like it.
utinspector 1 year ago
seguí participando, sos del montón, ojalá tocaras como jamerson
arielom22 1 year ago
Hey good job..."John Taylor" lol
Nice ghost notes!
tttappin 1 year ago
he's adding too many notes, nice groove though
deeharr1 1 year ago
Wow - I have been trying to nail this line forever and now I see I am still way off. Great job
Iwillforgethis73 1 year ago
Smooth as hell, baby! Good Job!!
DEAallday 1 year ago
Excellent. Thank you.
maddaxemann 1 year ago
Very nice. I recently bought the DVD "Standing in the Shadows of Motown". And I really love Jamerson/Babbit. I owned a P-Bass in the mid 70's and still have the 1964 Ampeg B15NC that I bought about the same time.
I was using an American Jazz and EB Stingray for the last 15 years but after seeing Bod Babbit, I'm pining for a P-Bass again. I local dealer is selling the Mexican P-Bass in black for at a super low price.... ohhh my.
jerryr61 1 year ago
Beautiful. I'd love play drums to that.
gogogadgetspoon 2 years ago
Good cover. I don't care about your lips - - shows you're really into it.! Sound is perfect, and timing excellent.
pamt726 2 years ago 9
is that the fender fsr
nachothebassplayer 2 years ago
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Nice playing for sure. Gotta love good Jamerson covers. But please go easy on the lips. Relax. Don't try to suck'em, tuck'em, and swallow'em in. Get yer groove on with another look 'cause at this point, yer lookin' like a dried up pumpkin. But keep do'in what yer do'in with the bass.
firehawk28 2 years ago
@firehawk28 -huh????
Markgr122 2 years ago
aw, leave him alone! Haven't you ever seen the facial contortions of top rockers who are getting into their groove? His lip contortions are nothing compared to what's out there. It's like saying 'hey--relax that o-face!"
lcozzarelli 1 year ago
what is a percision bass
im new to the bass scene...as my vids clearly show haha
but i wanna know what makes this kinda bass so popular
dlight247 2 years ago
The P-bass was made by Fender in the 60's. You can tell the P by the split pickups. The Jazz bass has long skinny pickups. The P-bass was made famous by James Jamerson and Jaco Pastorious.
JasonConway777 2 years ago
@JasonConway777
Jaco played a fretless jazz, not a p-bass
NickTAKAha 2 years ago
man ur gonna hate me
but what diffrence do the pickups make?
im soo new to this
i play a LTD B-10 bass which proli makes u cringe just knowing haha
but wanna know what a GOOD bass has equipped and what it sounds like.
dlight247 2 years ago
I thought the P-Bass was made in 1951 originally..you are right about James Jamerson..as for Jaco he used a Fender JAZZ Bass.
kooljsl 2 years ago
@dlight247
check out the 'Talk Bass' forum and the FDP
'Fender Discussion Page' forum
those are more likely to give you the information you want
mkoby1 2 years ago
thanks man good lookin out i really appreciate it
dlight247 2 years ago
fantstic mate did you know this was james first crack at precision? well done you are mint mate, before this funk brothers had double bass...thankyou x
huahinnightmares 2 years ago
I wish all perfectionIsts would be isolated in Austrailia. That way they can make A new Perfectionist Race and reeK a perfect havoc on the less Perfect. THE WAR BEGINS IN 2019.
HendrixPrinceFlea89 2 years ago
Stop bringing up fucking Carol Kaye, she's a good musician but is a quack. Jamerson is responsible for making the Motown bass sound.
HendrixPrinceFlea89 2 years ago 2
what about bob babbitt???/
tranurse 2 years ago
A) Your sure got the James Jamerson sound (the motown sound)
B)Smooth and solid playing.
2.54 was sloppy though )
cannibalcorpses 2 years ago
HOW DARE THE BITCH...
sunmoonsword 2 years ago 4
This is JJ the idea riff came up from a camel, going across the desert . Legend this far beyond C Kaye
JMB30 2 years ago
No, it's Jamerson
look it up on the shadows of motown website.
bassphantom94 2 years ago
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No,it's Carol Kaye.
Look her home page.
And the sound may be pick sound.
Jamerson doesn't use pick.
papahati 2 years ago
You think bernadette sounds like a pick... wtf?
JIMBOND27 2 years ago 3
Carol Kaye!? Hahahaha!
Seriously though, Jamerson has done it again!
redSuikoden 2 years ago
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Jamerson is a great player and I admire him ,BUT this bassline is Carol Kaye.
masbesho 2 years ago
wow r u retarded its Jamerson
MMonster48 2 years ago 4
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This bass line is Carol Kaye, not Jamerson.
There are great bassists in motown ,aren't there?
masbesho 2 years ago
You certain?
saddamsalaugh 2 years ago
dead on.
seventai 2 years ago
very very good job!
d34dg 2 years ago
Great job! I grew up with Motown never knowing who these amazing guys were. Good to see you carrying it on. Thanks!
justice4J 2 years ago
Thanks for the video , I'm trying to learn James style and this video helps . You have any tabs of his bass lines posted online ?
Hamstersssssssssssss 2 years ago
You nailed it
banjometal 2 years ago
great tone. Even the great James Jamerson skipped the amp and went straight into the sound board.
WhiteLightnin3 2 years ago
Great. It shows you like the tune. You go beyond mere transcription. Mr. Jamerson played it more formally didn't he?
inthepudding 2 years ago
Outstanding!
bentpolski 2 years ago
this is good :)
musicmachine91 2 years ago
I love the way you play.
Outstanding job.
Honda599Girl 2 years ago
nice.
CatRevolver 2 years ago
Thumbs up! James Jamerson lives.
196465 2 years ago
Carol Kaye has made the claim that she played on Bernadette. Does anyone have opinions on this?
gentillyguy1 2 years ago
Carol Kaye made the remake with the Beach Boys but tried to lay claims to this version until Alan Slutsky made her fess up after sworn avidavits from other musicians who played on this recording had stated they never heard of her before. Thats because Carol never played with Motown in Detroit only in LA after this was recorded.
bassplay56 2 years ago 2
Carol Kaye has claimed a lot of Jamersons work but strangely waited until Jamersons death to reveal this info.
The surviving members of the band do not recall Kaye at the Tops sessions...
bassatnight 2 years ago 2
True true....She was almost always West Coast/Hollywod/L.A. based & apparently never counted on the surviving Funk Brothers & Detroit insiders coming 4ward & dismissing her Motown claims....With her impressive list of guitar & bass credits on both record & screen, Y did she need 2 wait until Jamerson & other founding Funk Brothers had died 2 start this sh*t? It's an insult 2 Jamerson's memory.
Tarantulisimo 2 years ago
You can tell just by listening to the original 4 tops version and know that's obviously the one and only James Jamerson.
bassclefjean1 2 years ago
Well, I maintain that Mr. Jamerson had a professional style the interpretators often miss. He did a job.
inthepudding 2 years ago
@gentillyguy1 i think played it live,but this is jamerson in the studio.
MrNathan791 7 months ago
These basslines are a song within themselves !
Jazzelegance 2 years ago 27
@Jazzelegance SOOO TRUE
realityme 1 year ago
Man I'm tellin ya, you're a good bass player, but just like another poster said, just hold the notes a little longer would be verbatim, and the right feel, cause you've got it... just a little more fluid, your more stacatto interpretation is just fine... just I'm a great admirer of James Jamerson's work, my poor excuse :-)
keep rockin dude!!!
TheFRiNgEguitars 2 years ago
Damn good Job...... :)
squarebizzie 2 years ago
very nice dude, jamerson would be proud!
troyd34 2 years ago 2
nice dude : )
danny9536 2 years ago
Advancing the audio .825s over the video seems to be pretty close in syncing. Great job. Fun to watch. especially when in sync.
turbo4zetec 2 years ago
nice job, dude. I'm a huge Jamerson fan, and you did him justice.
eskrimador22 2 years ago
Have you tried 'Got to be There?' I'mnot sure if it's JJ or Carol Kaye, but it's equally as difficult and incredible.
Peace
Roger11733 2 years ago
I'm a perfectionist, and the only difference I can hear is you don't hold the notes long enough.
Now I know that is miliseconds or studio magic, but the only thing that separates you from James Jamerson in this song, is the length of time you hold the note, particularly, the root notes.
Other than that, dead on, you make it look so easy, and that's a tall order given you're playing a line from JJ.
Peace
Roger11733 2 years ago 12
This guy speeks the truth.
LiamAWade 2 years ago 3
Roger11733,
Bernadette was recorded in 67, and by 64 Motown was recording 8 channels. I would not be surprised at all that JJ recorded his double bass on top of the electric bass line.
In any case, this cover is absolutely great.
wysiwyg248 2 years ago
@Roger11733 since you're a perfectionist, what did u think of Jamerson as a player?
AutopsyReport22 1 year ago
Pbass + flats FTW....that's the only way to come close to the true Motown sound
5Mag1cs 2 years ago
That's a nice P-bass, but I'm not digging the flats. I don't think they sound very good on P-bass'.
JTPhoebe9 2 years ago
This is pure James Jamerson. As far as I'm concerned he was the best damn bass player out of Motown. You do a very nice job. This bass line has always been one of my favorites.
But dude, you got to get it in sync.
z0ne0ne 2 years ago
yeah it is out of sync... but dude.
Awesome fucking tone. That is killer. Sounds awweesooommee! Re load this video dude do us all a favour!
PatCullen88 2 years ago 2
There is a BBC2 radio interview of the writers and producers of Bernadette that proves it is a Detroit product of the Motown Record Company. Anything else that has the bass of CK on it is another thing all together. I have attached a video spot to this thread with the voice of Harry Weinger (Motown archivist) that should make mr. scott's assertions go away...
BassLabD
basslabd 2 years ago
Don't know if it's only my system, but sound is out of synch by 2-3 seconds on this video, pretty much unwatchable.
bullsharkreef 2 years ago
Sounds great, try and rig up the sponge, and watch it sound REALLY authentic. Ive made that recommendation on at least one other of these forums, but try it, you'll be surprised at how tight it sounds!
ferdmert 2 years ago
Those who have enough true interest in JJ & CK, google "lost my athletic scholarship after participating in the civil rights sit-in". From that page about Frank Wilson (& note "regulars"): "The[...] musicians for [a particular late '65 Motown session] were pulled from the studio regulars that included[...] Carol Kaye[....] As far as it can be established the tapes were dispatched to Detroit [in] November 1965, where they were mixed by Lawrence Horn for submission to Billie Jean Brown."
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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Quote from Frank Wilson from that page, which says "Frank Wilson March 2009" near the top: "Gordy came out several times [to L.A....] [W]e were taking [him] to the airport[...] and he said, 'What makes you think you can produce?', I said, 'Because I've been producing much of the stuff that you've been hearing'. So he turned to Marc [Gordon] and Hal [Davis]. He said, 'Is that right?' And they said, 'Yes, that's right'." (Matches very well claims CK made to me JNS about 8 years ago)
JosephNScott 2 years ago
More from that page about Frank Wilson: "When Berry Gordy decided to open a West Coast Motown office, following his visit there to attend a disc jockey convention in 1963, he asked L.A. veterans Hal Davis, and Marc Gordon to take charge." (Matches what CK's been saying publicly for years -- frequently resulting in scornful reactions from her energetic detractors)
JosephNScott 2 years ago
More from that F. Wilson page you can find by googling "I lost my athletic scholarship after participating in the civil rights sit-in demonstrations": "During 1964-65 Frank [Wilson] saw an increasing number of his compositions being released[....] Frank[...] soon found himself[...] supervising recording sessions.[...] At some point in 1965 the decision was taken to launch Frank Wilson as a Motown artist in his own right[... recording in] Armin Steiner's 8 track Sound Recorders studio[....]"
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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Here is part of a 2/18/2002 (2:03 P.M.) post on the Soulful Detroit Forum: "[...] I'm Billy Wilson President of the Motown Alumni Association.[...] Carol did play on a few lesser know recordings at Motown . . . and I do mean LESSER KNOWN! [...] From 1964 to 1968 the company only used Jamerson." Note that that last sentence contradicts that Frank Wilson page, on which Andrew Rix describes Kaye as one of the "regulars" in L.A. as of '65. (cont.)
JosephNScott 2 years ago
Note that Billy Wilson presents himself in the 2/18/2002 post as knowing who played bass on every 1964-1968 Motown recording. (!!!) Now check this out from the same post: "The Motown Alumni Associaton provides information and gives assistance to entities such as the Library Of Congress, the Smithsonian Institute, Motown/Universal Music Group [this is people like Harry Weinger] ,Rythum & Blues Foundation, Motown artists[...]" Should we be surprised there's a Kaye-is-a-liar myth?
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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Quote from Armin Steiner, Mix magazine interview with Maureen Droney, 2001; compare it to Frank Wilson who was there -- and then to Billy Wilson, and to the Kaye detractors' myths: "From that moment on, word started traveling. Motown got interested, and I was busy all the time. I had Glen Campbell, Billy Strange, Tommy Tedesco, Dennis Budamir, [...] Ray Pohlman[...]. Hal Blaine, Earl Palmer, Joe Osborne, Larry Knecht[e]l[...]" (cont.)
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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"[...] Bill Pittman, Mike Deasy and, of course, Carol Kaye.[...] I used to have The Supremes up there, Marvin Gaye — my mother used to cook for them. Stevie Wonder was in when he was 9 years old. People think I'm making this stuff up, but it's true. As a matter of fact, I did a film session with Stevie awhile back, and he remembered both me and my studio. It was a different time, a different place. You couldn't do that kind of thing now, the city wouldn't allow it. I mean, it was all illegal."
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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From the notes to the 2000 4-CD Supremes box set: "A note on the track annotations: Recording dates are culled from the original Detroit session logs, which were begun in summer 1961 to coordinate the bookings of the basement studio at 2648 West Grand Boulevard. The logs generally do not list recording dates for live tapings or 'outside' sessions i.e., New York, Chicago, or Los Angeles - unless the dates were noted upon the tapes' return to Detroit." (cont.)
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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(cont. from prev.) Slutsky, 2000: "Most damning of all was the Motown studio log. Carol sent me hers [i.e. her handwritten logs of sessions she played in L.A] thirteen years ago. The dates don't line up anywhere. When we checked the recording dates of the specific disputed Motown hits she claims to have played on, Carol's log always was at odds." Detroit logs didn't list sessions that CK claims were non-union & in L.A.? Uh, OK. Was AS not intellectually dishonest here, but just confused? (cont.)
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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(cont. from prev.) CK sent me (JNS) some of her logs years ago, & I checked them against non-Motown sources she would have hard a time knowing about, & they _did_ match. But then, I wasn't checking them against a "book" that was created in order to log _Detroit_ recording sessions! I concluded that her logs were of the vintage claimed, including the lines where "Motown" was written. And to the best of my understanding anyone who suggests those logs are phony is misleading people (but why?).
JosephNScott 2 years ago
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More on JJ and CK: Harry Weinger works for _Universal_ and has access to Motown master tapes. Weinger takes Slutsky seriously as a researcher. Is Weinger's only source for JJ on bass on SW's "I Made To Love Her" Slutsky? Is Slutsky's story that Benjamin's nickname being heard on the master of it proves that _Jamerson_ was present a reasonable story? Could Kaye and Benjamin have recorded together in LA, for instance? Who says Benjamin didn't session in LA? Slutsky, you say? Why does he say that?
JosephNScott 2 years ago