The most important thing people can do who feel passionatly that there is a better world out there without endless wars that kill other human beings is to tell people the truth that you have found out and spread the message to people who are pro war and dont really question things. Lend them dvds like john pilgers 'the war you dont see' or anything else that could educate them. If we do this globally we can make a change, it wont happen overnight but we can make wars less likely some day
I am also a veteran of the Iraqi war and I wrote a song about my experience. If you have the time please go to my channel and take a listen ... dedicated to the fallen soldiers of the 46th ECB ...
Military has always been the same (if you have any doubt about that, read Catch 22): humans are no more than cannon balls and they are often expected to fulful stupid orders given by stupid commanders, and often have to pay with their lives for such stupid people's decision.
Those who join the military voluntarily should not complain later that it was not what they had expected.
My hats off to soldiers who do the right thing and do stand for protecting all things American they love. They are just doing what they are supposed to. But fuck the higher ups that give them the wrong orders for the wrong things.
Thats what you got for believing the this war on terror, its bascially killing all muslims that look like terriosts but arent that was the lie they were told
Bring back the draft. Then, young petunias who think they should be protected without doing anything themselves personally, can emigrate (for good; go on a list for barred return) somewhere else! Very simple. No one eats for frees. The average Jew is smarter than most equivalents on the planet, yet he 'must' serve a compulsory period. Brighten up and quit your faggot snivelling.
Saddam had occupied and taken-over Kwait. Kuwait is Huge oil reserves and is Ocean Front, for Oil-tanker loading, etc. The strength of the West is its Intelligence, 1., and 2. its access to oil, to operate its military with and make other hard goods for overall economic might.
Iraq had to be stabilized - so quit whining about it!!!!
These fags that put down the soldier sure love it when the military protects them (however). Their freedom to be a coward and their attempt to make out with their mothers every day are provided by 'actual' men in uniform.
you guy obviously don't know that soldiers don't have to follow every soldier even people in the military don't know but soldiers have the right to not fulfill any orders that the USA gives them if the order is inhuman they do not have to fulfill that order
is this movie about the thankless, ungrateful iraqis, who were liberated from the cruelty of sadam husain. these iraqis never thanked america, never showed gratitude, never deserved to be freed. america made a mistake by favouring the people who never deserved it.
though bush did not do it with good intentions. he was politician but these brave soldiers still made the unltimate sacrifice for a bunch of ungrateful crooks, who can not differentiate between freedom, democracy and dictatorship.
You wimps! Stay home and be a little pussy. We don't need your weak ass minds to be a soldier. Quit your whining!! I proudly served and you raised your hand and took an oath!! Do you think you were the first American that has seen a war?!! The first to be a wimp about it!! Boo hoo!!!!!!
I don't know who you are...but its obvious that you've become numb for sympathy. I am in the army, and the kind solider you are has manipulated many new recruits into believing is a natural thing to do, but yet you don't think about the subconscious affect. And you my friend has just spat in the face of your old battles buddies that are still lying awake at night trying to justify there guilt with the red white blue. I will make it my mission to open my battles eyes to this everywhere i go
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Guilt is for women, war is for warriors. Quit lying awake and move on with your life. You can open all the eyes you want. DOn't make your war an excuse for your inability to be a man about the realities about man's struggle againt man. You'll never sleep. I am numb and I sleep just fine at night for it. The weak fall off to the wayside and die, the strong shall survive. Call it what you want, but we have a 50-state nation for it.
I agree with Killsandnig. If your gonna JOIN the freaking united states military dont come out and be like oh my god it was horrible nobody should go thrue it. I DONT SEE A MOTHER FUCKER DRAFT GOING ON. god damn. Grow the fuck up.
When people join the Military it's to defend their country, not a lie. If our Government can't be honest with it's own people then fuck them. They've turned war into a business that fills the pockets of the elite. You want to put your life on the line to make some asshole rich, be my guest. These people wouldn't be backing out if this was a just war. And It's already been proved that this war was started by Bush lies.
@skordijhl They sure as hell aren't keeping me safe by being in Afghanistan & Iraq. Do you really think Saddam was a threat to the U.S.? Even if he had a WMD, how the hell would it be a threat to us? Saddam didn't have ICBM's buried in the sand. He couldn't hit this country in his dreams. The first thing Bush did was convert Iraq's oil sales back to dollars from the Euro. Cost Iraq billions. And if you're worried about Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, stop or monitor flights to the U.S. Cost ya nothing!
Not to many people mind fighting a just war, such as when someone attacks your country. But there comes a time when you have to take the hard stand for whats right, even if you go down. These people in this video are standing for whats right. And if you have to believe your fighting a good cause in Iraq so that you can keep going, then do it, but remember it will catch up to when things settle down and your alone with yourself and God.
Your not ready to take orders back the fuck out ahead of time. Why did they join ? College,family, or just no direction? Stay home puppy's and leave the real job to us. :-)
You guys should take the time to learn how Charles Manson brainwashed his followers. He would regularly have them mock his facial expression and reflect his actions. He also would stop them from thinking anytime they tried to think and say "Thinking is thinking, dont think, live in the now" and then start them reflecting his facial expressions. This video shows the military does the same and also pushes Christianity which teaches we ate knowledge off a tree and became wicked.. so thinking is bad
fuck you. im joining for myself, so have a future. Fuck the country, i aitn joinoig for this corrupt country. We shouldnt even be in Iraq. The government is using soldiers as pawns.
remember my wors. The day you get there is the day you are going to want to come back. Think and say all you want now but youll remember me saying this to you
they have an opinion on the war as does anybody else, what i hate is how some people here discredit them, at least they have been over there and have seen first hand and know what they are talking about, i bet thats more than the majority of people who call them a disgrace have, how many of ye angry posters have served in iraq?
they are discredited cuz they are there for the wrong reasons..how many soldiers think iraq had something to do with 911? how many belive they are there becouse of weapons of massdestruction? how many belives they are "freeing " them from saddam? this is the questions i would like answers to..why do they think they are there? is it about oil and money? i think people rant on the soldiers becouse your government dont answer this questions..this is why i dont respect america any more..
you misunderstood my comment, also i am not american, i was saying that these soldiers have spoken out against the war but are discredited by people who have in the majority never been to iraq and i dont think thats fair, i largely agree with what you say in your comment
sorry man im just quite angry from all the shit i get from trying to talk the truth here..allso i think people have a right to criticize..but the soldiers are maybe not the ones who deserve it the most..the blame is on the millitary innstitutions and the us gov. did you know as much as 71% of iraq wants america out of iraq? maybe they are the ones who need to be heard? thanks! :)
yes i know that the majority of iraq wants the US out now, but i think if the US leaves now then iraq would have a government and power vacuum, this would cause civil war on a larger scale than seen before so it would be bad to leave before the iraqi army is ready to take over, ut i agree that the governemnt betrayed its people and soldiers in particular, but leavig would make a bad situation worse in my opinion
if they leave. and there is a civil war..would america really care? is it their problem.? they are there to steal their oil and gass..i can fill you inn on this if you wish..and why..
well i dont really care if america would care about it, what i care more about is the huge increase in iraqi deaths i believe it would cause, and you seem to think im pro war despite me agreeing with almost all you say, im not, i believe it was a war for oil and/or control of mideast, but since the war has taken place you have to look to the future and think what would be best for iraq,
and personally i think that iraq would be in chaos without american troops at this moment, because the iraqis do not have adeqaute security forces and the power vacuum would, i believe, allow the civil war that has been so close to starting for so long to start, the main reason it hasnt started on a huge scale is the big increase of US troops in baghdad which has reduced deaths, wouldnt you agree?
first of all its good to be able to have a discussion with someone like you who uses facts and doesnt just shout abuse, they are rare on youtube, but i thik you just avoided my comment about the power vacuum left behind if US leaves now, iraqis have the right to run iraq and thats what they are doing but its blindingly obvious that the iraqi army is not able to provide security on its own,
the trend of attacks is less on attacking US troops and more on attacking civilians, elements of both shia and sunni want to provoke civil war, iraqi troops cant stop it, US troops are to an extent stopping these sectarian deaths, so whats best in the current situation, for the US to stay or leave?
i belive that its best us troops leave..do you know about the two british special forces who got cought by iraqi police waering arab chlotes in a car full of explosives? try googeling it..if this info is true it sugests that they divided iraqi people to conqurer..its a very old tactic..sorry if i uppsett you in any way..it was not my purpose..on your question on the power vakume..the situation was created by the usa..let iraq handle it..give people trust..i think usa wont leave cuz of the oil..
no it was a case of misunderstanding on my part, i took it as being condescending when you said the check that out line, my mistake, i respect your opinion, it could be correct, personally i believe that the same people (ie. president and military commanders) who order the attacks that you believe they are doing would be the same people to suffer from the consequences so i dont believe the motive is there, but i dont trust the presidents motives at all
you misunderstood my comment, also i am not american, i was saying that these soldiers have spoken out against the war but are discredited by people who have in the majority never been to iraq and i dont think thats fair, i largely agree with what you say in your comment
right im getting tired of discussing this with you, you never answer my questions, and the last comment was an insult, there is a logic to what i say, i dont think i can say the same for you, dont bother commenting back because im not interested in talking to you anymore and i take back my compliment from my last comment
"... They must have been the worst servicemen to have served. They have no idea about the true meaning of the oath they made. They have lost the greater meaning of their mission, to establish a strong, stable, democratic nation in Iraq.
You can tell by the way they speak, these disgraceful veterans, do not carry the army values which we abide by.
I agree.
Lastly, these veterans do not represent the majority of veterans & soldiers. In fact, their credibility is questionable."
The "soldier" who says training only teaches a call and response mentality is just plain wrong. Training teaches a soldier how to be an individual within a unit as well as to keep your wits during battle. Even a private can navigate with a map, call for support and call in artillery strikes. If the "soldier" was correct in his statement than every unit would fall apart with the death of the commanding officer. However, time and time again we see just the opposite.
These are military veterans? They must have been the worst servicemen to have served. They have no idea about the true meaning of the oath they made. They have lost the greater meaning of their mission, to establish a strong, stable, democratic nation in Iraq.
You can tell by the way they speak, these disgraceful veterans, do not carry the army values which we abide by.
Lastly, these veterans do not represent the majority of veterans & soldiers. In fact, their credibility is questionable.
Videos so biased. Its almost a disgrace to the military. Everyone supports the troops but no one supports what there sweating and dying for over there. The war still has a good purpose and a lot of soldiers don't want their comrades to die in vain. And of course this guy posts a video of only one side of a story because hes against the other side.
yeah, these "poor" people. they're commie little pussies that couldn't hack it and are just trying to get attention. The first problem? you have to call your family with in the first 74 hours your there. It's not that bad.
these douches are prob. the soldiers that couldnthack it and got in trouble and now are trying to lash back and make themselves feel better about being fuck ups and for all you people anti war anti bush open your eyes and realize that we fight over there to keep it over there and that if it wasnt for the brave men and women that stand up for our red white and blue then we be the worlds bitch so hooraa to all the brothers in arms fighting along side of me to keep america safe and free
I've said this one and I'll say it again; why do the soldiers who turn against the war get so much attention, while the ones who support the war are often ignored?
Maybe because the people who trumpet the ones who turn against the war don't give a flip about the troops outside of how they can be used for a political statement.
Im in the United States so i havent spent time on the ground but i have been over there. Well you all say that this war is imoral it is unlawful. well look all the way back and you will see that every war in this fine countries history was considered imoral and unlawful. so you guys are aloud to say what u want cause i got a job to do and by God Im gonna do it.
Thanks for the video. I support the trooops, I love my country, but I do not support this administration, their policies or their war. Bring the troops home.
I'm damn glad these guys are OUT of the military. We'll let the patriotic and strong defend America. Let the bitches weed their way out of harms way only to spit on the service of our brave men and women in uniform. "I almost died out there." Damn straight, you're at war. Hows about you be glad you're alive and respect the fallen.
only 100 returned soldiers have committed suicide this year alone. what do u think is going 2 happen when the brain fucked up soldiers come back home after all the evil funny killings they had fun with will do to them? if u just talk about other than American failures do u think they give a f...? i really don't think they care about the Iraqis? I'm sure a hand full would only care because their iq is not all that so they got sucked in. most r on evil works not 'i didn't know sorry' that is crap!
if u just talk about Iraqis, do u think they will give a f... we need to hi lite the American evil works too. they r just talking like this so they can live with them self that all. sick fucker r having nightmares so they have no choice but to do what they can to live a normal life. hard & A sad situation i agree
to lakes612: bush is not the 1 killing in Iraq the troops r. lets use words that is direct! how can u support the killers and not Bush? abnormal behaviour. what if we all were like Americans, what will happen.you support the killers but not the person that says jump. fucked up way of looking at it don't u think? i support the man that rapes ur mum but not the person that says go and do it, is this what u mean. don't complicate things. learn from Mohamed Ali or is he just a nigger 2 u all?
Thank you to the soldiers who still have a conscience after returning from Iraq and are willing to speak out against it today. Americans need to hear the truth....they certainly aren't getting it from the corporate controlled media.
if u have gone 2 Iraq u are a fucking killer don't say i did not know, what a load of crap. lets just say it was a test of ' r u a good human, its not that complicated u fucking killers. sorry ass killers let some1 kill ur family and say i was lied 2. fuck u the damage is done u fucken killers. i would kill my self before i kill innocent people. u come back from killing & think it just might be ok at home, go to hell u all r killers/a very bad human. THE DEVIL IS WAITING 4 U ALL
Yes, I wrote a song about it, because I'm so sick and tired of the lies from Bush and Co. And I'm SICK of the disrespect and the name-calling. They have got so many people flamfloozled.
That's my daughter in the video and I'm so proud of her!
To these so called "patriots" that join or are already in the military: Have you actually read and understand the deceleration of independence, the Constitution, or the bill or rights?? That should be required education before you go into any type of military position. Then come and tell me about serving our country.
you civilians run your mouth talking about all this stuff about Constitution and Bill of Rights, and so on, well you people don't know nothing, don't you know that the most gung-ho and patriotic soldiers always suffer the most by a system that does them wrong. If you kill an Iraqi because you though they were going to pull a weapon and saved your battle buddies, you can go to jail for 10 years if it wasn't authorized by higher ups.
I am not here to fight this "War On Terror". I am here to support the buddy to my left and right. I am in the US Army and WILL do what i am told. It is just a know fact that you knew what you were getting into by joining the military. I signed the dotted line and so did many people in my family. Now, i will uphold the oath that i took and serve my country well. I will honor those who served before me and i will sacrifice my self if need be for the freedom of my family.
Thank you so much. I truely appreciate what you are doing, looking out for your buddies. Take care of yourself too. I don't support Bush but will always support our troops. Thank you and all your buddies.
Glad to see the veterans FINALLY being heard, at least on some small scale. I was there for ten months on the front lines from 2003-2004 and I agree 110% with everything said in this trailer. Bring them home.
Yes. They did sign the same oath. However, until war is -experienced- can you truly understand the depth of crap you've landed in. Recruiters do not cover that side of the bush. I support those willing to fight and serve their country... But I also support those who stand by their moral code.
i in no way disrespect what you soldiers and marines are standing up for but it is not your fault civilians died. You give the enemy no quarter because you know the will give you none. This is not vietnam, you signed up for this shit so make your country proud. Is it dishonourable to renounce the military which your brothers fought and died in believing what they was doing was right???
Yeah and its also propoganda what they lead you to believe when you sign your life over to them. Its the recruiters jobs to lie to you to get you to sign your life over. How else would they get so many people in the military?
I do have to say that there are some things that are done that are shady. My recruiter forged my name on some documents. I joined anyway and had no intention of not, but I spent my first duty assignment at a post that I never wanted. I got my assignment preference based upon that sheet that he forged. When I ask about it I am told that I probably would have ended up there anyway.
Still fighting for a bonus that was in my contract that I should have been paid 2 years ago. Now I am told that based upon the interpretation of Title ## of some code that I am not entitled to it. I could always leave, but that wouldn't be fair to my men that I have trained with. I am sure that I am not the only one that this happened to.
It so obvious that Iraq is all about oil. The US economy and the government cannot survive without it. I wish the US government has just said so in the begining.
There are at least 100,000 iraqi civilian casualities. Thats one hell of a lot of brothers, fathers, sisters, mothers, sons that now have a very good reason to fly planes in to buildings, strap bombs to their bodies or pick up a weapon and fight back.
Actually people in the service vow to protect America against enemies foreign and domestic. America is in greatest danger from our domestic enemy...our dictator Bush. We need a coup.
actually it 'you're too ignorant' not 'your to ignorant'.
But trivia aside.. I thought US troops were dedicated to defending the constitution? And no I dont buy for a second that moral objectors are cowards. What about those who refused to fight for the nazis (some of whom were executed). Cowards? or Heros? Morality matters in deciding who is good and who is evil.
The most important thing people can do who feel passionatly that there is a better world out there without endless wars that kill other human beings is to tell people the truth that you have found out and spread the message to people who are pro war and dont really question things. Lend them dvds like john pilgers 'the war you dont see' or anything else that could educate them. If we do this globally we can make a change, it wont happen overnight but we can make wars less likely some day
justmadeit2 2 months ago
War profiteering. There is great money involved for the rich. The rich become richer and the poor become slaves.
TheComputerEngineer 3 months ago
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I am also a veteran of the Iraqi war and I wrote a song about my experience. If you have the time please go to my channel and take a listen ... dedicated to the fallen soldiers of the 46th ECB ...
FusionRecordsTV 5 months ago
The problem with the military is, that you do, what you are told.
If you don't do, what you are told, you are not in the military.
Much love for people standing up for themselves and refusing to participate in this madness...
Members of Illuminati should be arrested and send to prison for their crimes on humanity.
MsLenepigen 6 months ago
Military has always been the same (if you have any doubt about that, read Catch 22): humans are no more than cannon balls and they are often expected to fulful stupid orders given by stupid commanders, and often have to pay with their lives for such stupid people's decision.
Those who join the military voluntarily should not complain later that it was not what they had expected.
vikoraron 6 months ago
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Ron Paul 2012!
zoo1414 7 months ago
Love my country, hate my Government.
My hats off to soldiers who do the right thing and do stand for protecting all things American they love. They are just doing what they are supposed to. But fuck the higher ups that give them the wrong orders for the wrong things.
Deetroiter 1 year ago
@Deetroiter its the true patriots that stand up against the govt when they are doing the wrong thing, true patriots.
justicelevi 11 months ago
Oath Keepers!
Zot64 1 year ago
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Jesse McBeth, Richard Strandlof, Rick Duncan how many more?
Royak 1 year ago
Thats what you got for believing the this war on terror, its bascially killing all muslims that look like terriosts but arent that was the lie they were told
WorldGlobal2010 1 year ago
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czdavid1 1 year ago
The Military is used to keep Us safe, yes the war should end but the shitty gov we have now is fucking bad.
skordijhl 1 year ago
the military isnt for everyone i guess
brandonbomber155 1 year ago
In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act.
George Orwell
amacntexas 1 year ago
Nice video
COAKD1 1 year ago
Bring back the draft. Then, young petunias who think they should be protected without doing anything themselves personally, can emigrate (for good; go on a list for barred return) somewhere else! Very simple. No one eats for frees. The average Jew is smarter than most equivalents on the planet, yet he 'must' serve a compulsory period. Brighten up and quit your faggot snivelling.
fuhmeregan 1 year ago
Saddam had occupied and taken-over Kwait. Kuwait is Huge oil reserves and is Ocean Front, for Oil-tanker loading, etc. The strength of the West is its Intelligence, 1., and 2. its access to oil, to operate its military with and make other hard goods for overall economic might.
Iraq had to be stabilized - so quit whining about it!!!!
fuhmeregan 1 year ago
These fags that put down the soldier sure love it when the military protects them (however). Their freedom to be a coward and their attempt to make out with their mothers every day are provided by 'actual' men in uniform.
fuhmeregan 1 year ago
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@fuhmeregan "These fags that put down the soldier sure love it when the military protects them"
You sure miss the point of this film. These are veterans speaking.
bapyou 1 year ago
GREAT VIDEO,
jclemens1970 1 year ago
you guy obviously don't know that soldiers don't have to follow every soldier even people in the military don't know but soldiers have the right to not fulfill any orders that the USA gives them if the order is inhuman they do not have to fulfill that order
skydive209 2 years ago
Are all the people in this video Obama supporters?
JimmyFormerMarine 2 years ago
is this movie about the thankless, ungrateful iraqis, who were liberated from the cruelty of sadam husain. these iraqis never thanked america, never showed gratitude, never deserved to be freed. america made a mistake by favouring the people who never deserved it.
though bush did not do it with good intentions. he was politician but these brave soldiers still made the unltimate sacrifice for a bunch of ungrateful crooks, who can not differentiate between freedom, democracy and dictatorship.
zulfitareen 2 years ago
lol...Iraq should be grateful that we invaded their country on lies and killed innocent people. See if you like it done to you!
petiemac12 2 years ago
it was not american soldiers that made the mistake.
it were politicians who did that.
soldiers still did their job and made the ultimate sacrifice.
besides it is my country.
i am not african american, asian american, chinese american, mexican american.
I AM AMERICAN AMERICAN.
i consider every other kind of american a trash.
zulfitareen 2 years ago
This people has a living heart. Their heart is not dead.
romeiza 2 years ago
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look. there all niggers. hippies. sluts...and losers...dotn listen to these liberals..they dont care about anything. let them cry. we wont listen
nick8874 2 years ago
I agree with ya. Are you military??
mikelatrice 2 years ago
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this is fucking garbage!!! im pissed now.
davemerkthecatalyst 3 years ago
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the maker of this video is a worthless piece of liberal cocksucking shit
rnickday 3 years ago
yep and you are an idiot
franktbird 2 years ago
You wimps! Stay home and be a little pussy. We don't need your weak ass minds to be a soldier. Quit your whining!! I proudly served and you raised your hand and took an oath!! Do you think you were the first American that has seen a war?!! The first to be a wimp about it!! Boo hoo!!!!!!
braveheartz2 3 years ago
I don't know who you are...but its obvious that you've become numb for sympathy. I am in the army, and the kind solider you are has manipulated many new recruits into believing is a natural thing to do, but yet you don't think about the subconscious affect. And you my friend has just spat in the face of your old battles buddies that are still lying awake at night trying to justify there guilt with the red white blue. I will make it my mission to open my battles eyes to this everywhere i go
firefei87 2 years ago
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Guilt is for women, war is for warriors. Quit lying awake and move on with your life. You can open all the eyes you want. DOn't make your war an excuse for your inability to be a man about the realities about man's struggle againt man. You'll never sleep. I am numb and I sleep just fine at night for it. The weak fall off to the wayside and die, the strong shall survive. Call it what you want, but we have a 50-state nation for it.
braveheartz2 2 years ago
Why did u join?
petiemac12 2 years ago
at 1st it was for the money because of the recession out on california...but now i'm thinking of staying in for my 20. it grows on you.
firefei87 2 years ago
lol...Depends on why the war is being fought....Anyone can join the military. I will not kill people based on lies!
petiemac12 2 years ago
yeah,,,,,,, you believed all the lies , unlucky!
cuntcuntcuntface 3 years ago 4
Government sucks ......Semper Fi
m2papa3 3 years ago
I agree with Killsandnig. If your gonna JOIN the freaking united states military dont come out and be like oh my god it was horrible nobody should go thrue it. I DONT SEE A MOTHER FUCKER DRAFT GOING ON. god damn. Grow the fuck up.
-All the way!
cadet427071 3 years ago
fuck you we don't fight for the wrong reasons
carter20081985 3 years ago
What are your reasons....
that deserves The crush of thousands of lives for it......!!!!???
sodfa24 3 years ago
read my lips....WMD's, Iraq is housing Al Qaeda, Gulf of Tonkin...and many more~
petiemac12 2 years ago
When people join the Military it's to defend their country, not a lie. If our Government can't be honest with it's own people then fuck them. They've turned war into a business that fills the pockets of the elite. You want to put your life on the line to make some asshole rich, be my guest. These people wouldn't be backing out if this was a just war. And It's already been proved that this war was started by Bush lies.
HemiHead66 3 years ago 22
@HemiHead66 Bush may have lied but The Marines Keep us and shit like you safe!
skordijhl 1 year ago
@skordijhl They sure as hell aren't keeping me safe by being in Afghanistan & Iraq. Do you really think Saddam was a threat to the U.S.? Even if he had a WMD, how the hell would it be a threat to us? Saddam didn't have ICBM's buried in the sand. He couldn't hit this country in his dreams. The first thing Bush did was convert Iraq's oil sales back to dollars from the Euro. Cost Iraq billions. And if you're worried about Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, stop or monitor flights to the U.S. Cost ya nothing!
HemiHead66 1 year ago
Not to many people mind fighting a just war, such as when someone attacks your country. But there comes a time when you have to take the hard stand for whats right, even if you go down. These people in this video are standing for whats right. And if you have to believe your fighting a good cause in Iraq so that you can keep going, then do it, but remember it will catch up to when things settle down and your alone with yourself and God.
zeeab 3 years ago 2
Your not ready to take orders back the fuck out ahead of time. Why did they join ? College,family, or just no direction? Stay home puppy's and leave the real job to us. :-)
KillSandNig 3 years ago
You guys should take the time to learn how Charles Manson brainwashed his followers. He would regularly have them mock his facial expression and reflect his actions. He also would stop them from thinking anytime they tried to think and say "Thinking is thinking, dont think, live in the now" and then start them reflecting his facial expressions. This video shows the military does the same and also pushes Christianity which teaches we ate knowledge off a tree and became wicked.. so thinking is bad
Ndz3415 3 years ago
fuck you. im joining for myself, so have a future. Fuck the country, i aitn joinoig for this corrupt country. We shouldnt even be in Iraq. The government is using soldiers as pawns.
TyteTyson 3 years ago
pshh i got a 100 says a demacrat made this vid
bullshit...
u join the army for ur country not the damn benifits
any ways
u all should be supporting or troops
not break their spirit
god bless our troops
im joining
when i am of age
aznsk8ter360 3 years ago
you are an idiot if you do...go play paintball
dadosmrado 3 years ago
lol....So you should support a war that was based on lies like Vietnam?
petiemac12 2 years ago
I want to go over there, when i enlist i am voulenteering.
Selino25 3 years ago 2
remember my wors. The day you get there is the day you are going to want to come back. Think and say all you want now but youll remember me saying this to you
dadosmrado 3 years ago
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God Bless you peacemakers 4 you are righteous.
The rest of the so called Christians.... they are going to hell GUARANTEED.... no matter what they hide behind, no matter how much they lie.
fact is, they just want to kill Iraqis because of 911....dont matter if they innocent.
These so called Christian mfers are the worst humans on the planet today.
These ppl have no compassion, is because God puts a seal on the hearts and minds of the ones he hates.
These are the damned.
chilzoid 3 years ago
they have an opinion on the war as does anybody else, what i hate is how some people here discredit them, at least they have been over there and have seen first hand and know what they are talking about, i bet thats more than the majority of people who call them a disgrace have, how many of ye angry posters have served in iraq?
mullers88 3 years ago
they are discredited cuz they are there for the wrong reasons..how many soldiers think iraq had something to do with 911? how many belive they are there becouse of weapons of massdestruction? how many belives they are "freeing " them from saddam? this is the questions i would like answers to..why do they think they are there? is it about oil and money? i think people rant on the soldiers becouse your government dont answer this questions..this is why i dont respect america any more..
1GRRRR 3 years ago
you misunderstood my comment, also i am not american, i was saying that these soldiers have spoken out against the war but are discredited by people who have in the majority never been to iraq and i dont think thats fair, i largely agree with what you say in your comment
mullers88 3 years ago
sorry man im just quite angry from all the shit i get from trying to talk the truth here..allso i think people have a right to criticize..but the soldiers are maybe not the ones who deserve it the most..the blame is on the millitary innstitutions and the us gov. did you know as much as 71% of iraq wants america out of iraq? maybe they are the ones who need to be heard? thanks! :)
1GRRRR 3 years ago
yes i know that the majority of iraq wants the US out now, but i think if the US leaves now then iraq would have a government and power vacuum, this would cause civil war on a larger scale than seen before so it would be bad to leave before the iraqi army is ready to take over, ut i agree that the governemnt betrayed its people and soldiers in particular, but leavig would make a bad situation worse in my opinion
mullers88 3 years ago
if they leave. and there is a civil war..would america really care? is it their problem.? they are there to steal their oil and gass..i can fill you inn on this if you wish..and why..
1GRRRR 3 years ago
well i dont really care if america would care about it, what i care more about is the huge increase in iraqi deaths i believe it would cause, and you seem to think im pro war despite me agreeing with almost all you say, im not, i believe it was a war for oil and/or control of mideast, but since the war has taken place you have to look to the future and think what would be best for iraq,
mullers88 3 years ago
and personally i think that iraq would be in chaos without american troops at this moment, because the iraqis do not have adeqaute security forces and the power vacuum would, i believe, allow the civil war that has been so close to starting for so long to start, the main reason it hasnt started on a huge scale is the big increase of US troops in baghdad which has reduced deaths, wouldnt you agree?
mullers88 3 years ago
who is to say what is best for iraq? americans ore iraqis?
1GRRRR 3 years ago
first of all its good to be able to have a discussion with someone like you who uses facts and doesnt just shout abuse, they are rare on youtube, but i thik you just avoided my comment about the power vacuum left behind if US leaves now, iraqis have the right to run iraq and thats what they are doing but its blindingly obvious that the iraqi army is not able to provide security on its own,
mullers88 3 years ago
the trend of attacks is less on attacking US troops and more on attacking civilians, elements of both shia and sunni want to provoke civil war, iraqi troops cant stop it, US troops are to an extent stopping these sectarian deaths, so whats best in the current situation, for the US to stay or leave?
mullers88 3 years ago
i belive that its best us troops leave..do you know about the two british special forces who got cought by iraqi police waering arab chlotes in a car full of explosives? try googeling it..if this info is true it sugests that they divided iraqi people to conqurer..its a very old tactic..sorry if i uppsett you in any way..it was not my purpose..on your question on the power vakume..the situation was created by the usa..let iraq handle it..give people trust..i think usa wont leave cuz of the oil..
1GRRRR 3 years ago
no it was a case of misunderstanding on my part, i took it as being condescending when you said the check that out line, my mistake, i respect your opinion, it could be correct, personally i believe that the same people (ie. president and military commanders) who order the attacks that you believe they are doing would be the same people to suffer from the consequences so i dont believe the motive is there, but i dont trust the presidents motives at all
mullers88 3 years ago
So where do we get the money to pay for nation building and being the police of teh world?
petiemac12 2 years ago
you misunderstood my comment, also i am not american, i was saying that these soldiers have spoken out against the war but are discredited by people who have in the majority never been to iraq and i dont think thats fair, i largely agree with what you say in your comment
mullers88 3 years ago
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1GRRRR 3 years ago
right im getting tired of discussing this with you, you never answer my questions, and the last comment was an insult, there is a logic to what i say, i dont think i can say the same for you, dont bother commenting back because im not interested in talking to you anymore and i take back my compliment from my last comment
mullers88 3 years ago
your not an american and u are telling us what to do with out troops? Mind your business! That's also what our country should do
petiemac12 2 years ago
"... They must have been the worst servicemen to have served. They have no idea about the true meaning of the oath they made. They have lost the greater meaning of their mission, to establish a strong, stable, democratic nation in Iraq.
You can tell by the way they speak, these disgraceful veterans, do not carry the army values which we abide by.
I agree.
Lastly, these veterans do not represent the majority of veterans & soldiers. In fact, their credibility is questionable."
thewooster88 3 years ago
still they have the same uniform as the rest of them..shame on your government..get out
1GRRRR 3 years ago
71% of iraq wants the usa out..
1GRRRR 3 years ago
i hope all the americans get left over there and the iraqis stick the troops
micahbballr07 3 years ago
The "soldier" who says training only teaches a call and response mentality is just plain wrong. Training teaches a soldier how to be an individual within a unit as well as to keep your wits during battle. Even a private can navigate with a map, call for support and call in artillery strikes. If the "soldier" was correct in his statement than every unit would fall apart with the death of the commanding officer. However, time and time again we see just the opposite.
cpreils 3 years ago
These are military veterans? They must have been the worst servicemen to have served. They have no idea about the true meaning of the oath they made. They have lost the greater meaning of their mission, to establish a strong, stable, democratic nation in Iraq.
You can tell by the way they speak, these disgraceful veterans, do not carry the army values which we abide by.
Lastly, these veterans do not represent the majority of veterans & soldiers. In fact, their credibility is questionable.
justsomeboi 3 years ago
71% of iraq wants usa out of their country why not give democracy a chance buddy..
1GRRRR 3 years ago
Videos so biased. Its almost a disgrace to the military. Everyone supports the troops but no one supports what there sweating and dying for over there. The war still has a good purpose and a lot of soldiers don't want their comrades to die in vain. And of course this guy posts a video of only one side of a story because hes against the other side.
wonderbread089 3 years ago
yeah, these "poor" people. they're commie little pussies that couldn't hack it and are just trying to get attention. The first problem? you have to call your family with in the first 74 hours your there. It's not that bad.
starvncoyote 3 years ago
sonrouge, maybe because soldiers still serving arent allowed to voice opinions? DUHHHHH idiot.
MachinaSapien 3 years ago
your a dumbass
wonderbread089 3 years ago
these douches are prob. the soldiers that couldnthack it and got in trouble and now are trying to lash back and make themselves feel better about being fuck ups and for all you people anti war anti bush open your eyes and realize that we fight over there to keep it over there and that if it wasnt for the brave men and women that stand up for our red white and blue then we be the worlds bitch so hooraa to all the brothers in arms fighting along side of me to keep america safe and free
dooger8906 4 years ago
u sure bout that. i think you need a brain aenima.
nuclearsun13 4 years ago
I've said this one and I'll say it again; why do the soldiers who turn against the war get so much attention, while the ones who support the war are often ignored?
Maybe because the people who trumpet the ones who turn against the war don't give a flip about the troops outside of how they can be used for a political statement.
sonrouge 4 years ago
If your about to tell me you've been over there and yet don't support the war, screw you
JoeRocket4885 4 years ago
Ron Paul will bring the troops home now!
rpforliberty2008 4 years ago
I am in the UNITED STATES NAVY
Petroski43 4 years ago
Im in the United States so i havent spent time on the ground but i have been over there. Well you all say that this war is imoral it is unlawful. well look all the way back and you will see that every war in this fine countries history was considered imoral and unlawful. so you guys are aloud to say what u want cause i got a job to do and by God Im gonna do it.
Petroski43 4 years ago 2
Thanks for the video. I support the trooops, I love my country, but I do not support this administration, their policies or their war. Bring the troops home.
3228jane 4 years ago
this faggot could not make it they should kill them selfs or go fight for iran and be there when will drop a atomic bomb
ricky692003 4 years ago
I enlist into the marine corps in june 08 i cant wait OO-RAH
Carpenter6921 4 years ago
I'm damn glad these guys are OUT of the military. We'll let the patriotic and strong defend America. Let the bitches weed their way out of harms way only to spit on the service of our brave men and women in uniform. "I almost died out there." Damn straight, you're at war. Hows about you be glad you're alive and respect the fallen.
filipinofolk1 4 years ago
We respect the fallen.We spit on the ones who put them there.
dtfan08 4 years ago
only 100 returned soldiers have committed suicide this year alone. what do u think is going 2 happen when the brain fucked up soldiers come back home after all the evil funny killings they had fun with will do to them? if u just talk about other than American failures do u think they give a f...? i really don't think they care about the Iraqis? I'm sure a hand full would only care because their iq is not all that so they got sucked in. most r on evil works not 'i didn't know sorry' that is crap!
greenplanets 4 years ago
if u just talk about Iraqis, do u think they will give a f... we need to hi lite the American evil works too. they r just talking like this so they can live with them self that all. sick fucker r having nightmares so they have no choice but to do what they can to live a normal life. hard & A sad situation i agree
greenplanets 4 years ago
what are you talking about, my cousin came back from Iraq and he is normal as any other person and he served in the infantry.
BapestaB 4 years ago
To all who serve our country, Thank you isn't enough. I don't support Bush but will always be grateful to those who serve.
lakes612 4 years ago
to lakes612: bush is not the 1 killing in Iraq the troops r. lets use words that is direct! how can u support the killers and not Bush? abnormal behaviour. what if we all were like Americans, what will happen.you support the killers but not the person that says jump. fucked up way of looking at it don't u think? i support the man that rapes ur mum but not the person that says go and do it, is this what u mean. don't complicate things. learn from Mohamed Ali or is he just a nigger 2 u all?
greenplanets 4 years ago
Thank you to the soldiers who still have a conscience after returning from Iraq and are willing to speak out against it today. Americans need to hear the truth....they certainly aren't getting it from the corporate controlled media.
Oilwellian 4 years ago
if u have gone 2 Iraq u are a fucking killer don't say i did not know, what a load of crap. lets just say it was a test of ' r u a good human, its not that complicated u fucking killers. sorry ass killers let some1 kill ur family and say i was lied 2. fuck u the damage is done u fucken killers. i would kill my self before i kill innocent people. u come back from killing & think it just might be ok at home, go to hell u all r killers/a very bad human. THE DEVIL IS WAITING 4 U ALL
greenplanets 4 years ago
They called my baby a liar,
They called her mother a nigger,
They told my baby to shut up and go back to Iraq
OOOH-- If you're so in love with Bush's war,
Then what are you still in the US for
Take your Hummer, pack your bags,
and GO YOURSELF!!!
Yes, I wrote a song about it, because I'm so sick and tired of the lies from Bush and Co. And I'm SICK of the disrespect and the name-calling. They have got so many people flamfloozled.
That's my daughter in the video and I'm so proud of her!
DisgustedDenise 4 years ago 2
To these so called "patriots" that join or are already in the military: Have you actually read and understand the deceleration of independence, the Constitution, or the bill or rights?? That should be required education before you go into any type of military position. Then come and tell me about serving our country.
ampmatic 4 years ago
you civilians run your mouth talking about all this stuff about Constitution and Bill of Rights, and so on, well you people don't know nothing, don't you know that the most gung-ho and patriotic soldiers always suffer the most by a system that does them wrong. If you kill an Iraqi because you though they were going to pull a weapon and saved your battle buddies, you can go to jail for 10 years if it wasn't authorized by higher ups.
kabfik 4 years ago
I am not here to fight this "War On Terror". I am here to support the buddy to my left and right. I am in the US Army and WILL do what i am told. It is just a know fact that you knew what you were getting into by joining the military. I signed the dotted line and so did many people in my family. Now, i will uphold the oath that i took and serve my country well. I will honor those who served before me and i will sacrifice my self if need be for the freedom of my family.
PFC Evans
US Army
JEvans2005 4 years ago
Thank you so much. I truely appreciate what you are doing, looking out for your buddies. Take care of yourself too. I don't support Bush but will always support our troops. Thank you and all your buddies.
lakes612 4 years ago
They are 4 year people that just wanted the education and then get out. Very simple. I was one of them when I got out. Then I got a life.
jimisback 4 years ago
Glad to see the veterans FINALLY being heard, at least on some small scale. I was there for ten months on the front lines from 2003-2004 and I agree 110% with everything said in this trailer. Bring them home.
buffleheadcabin 4 years ago
Yes. They did sign the same oath. However, until war is -experienced- can you truly understand the depth of crap you've landed in. Recruiters do not cover that side of the bush. I support those willing to fight and serve their country... But I also support those who stand by their moral code.
raehvyn 4 years ago
WOW. this vid is full of BULLSHIT. Especially from that so called COMBATMEDIC/Drill instructor. Whiney bitches.
CombatMedic1981 5 years ago
i in no way disrespect what you soldiers and marines are standing up for but it is not your fault civilians died. You give the enemy no quarter because you know the will give you none. This is not vietnam, you signed up for this shit so make your country proud. Is it dishonourable to renounce the military which your brothers fought and died in believing what they was doing was right???
jon1119 5 years ago
these PEOPLE make me sick. No-one made them join the army, marines, etc. IT'S VOLUNTARY! This is so much propaganda.
Renateh 5 years ago
Yeah and its also propoganda what they lead you to believe when you sign your life over to them. Its the recruiters jobs to lie to you to get you to sign your life over. How else would they get so many people in the military?
ampmatic 4 years ago
I do have to say that there are some things that are done that are shady. My recruiter forged my name on some documents. I joined anyway and had no intention of not, but I spent my first duty assignment at a post that I never wanted. I got my assignment preference based upon that sheet that he forged. When I ask about it I am told that I probably would have ended up there anyway.
phidelt85 4 years ago
Still fighting for a bonus that was in my contract that I should have been paid 2 years ago. Now I am told that based upon the interpretation of Title ## of some code that I am not entitled to it. I could always leave, but that wouldn't be fair to my men that I have trained with. I am sure that I am not the only one that this happened to.
phidelt85 4 years ago
It so obvious that Iraq is all about oil. The US economy and the government cannot survive without it. I wish the US government has just said so in the begining.
There are at least 100,000 iraqi civilian casualities. Thats one hell of a lot of brothers, fathers, sisters, mothers, sons that now have a very good reason to fly planes in to buildings, strap bombs to their bodies or pick up a weapon and fight back.
peroni1 5 years ago
Actually people in the service vow to protect America against enemies foreign and domestic. America is in greatest danger from our domestic enemy...our dictator Bush. We need a coup.
siszam 5 years ago
Look the easiest way to top this war is to win. the sooner as we start killing all the women and children, the sooner the war will be over. Semper FI
tnorona 5 years ago
actually it 'you're too ignorant' not 'your to ignorant'.
But trivia aside.. I thought US troops were dedicated to defending the constitution? And no I dont buy for a second that moral objectors are cowards. What about those who refused to fight for the nazis (some of whom were executed). Cowards? or Heros? Morality matters in deciding who is good and who is evil.
Thunderf00t 5 years ago
The war isn't about oil, and it's not about terrorists nor WMDs. It's about corporation's and their money. More war = more money.
PoserPark2 5 years ago
Thanks for this video and thanks to these soldiers for speaking up. Stop this illegal and immoral war NOW! ITMFA
timetripping 5 years ago