Stacking Vocals is key in recording. I kno I can do it everytime I Get in the both. But its all on the person doing the recording too. If They only like to do Dubs an adlibs than thats thier style and thats how they do it. but for guys like me I have to stack them in Half bar patterens. Thats just the way that I do it. But in my opion stacking is one of the key ingredents toi a good mix on a hip hop song
In my opinion you can pretty much "stack" your vocals as long as you dont have the same volume levels... same with just copying and pasting... The only reason why I think stacking your vocals is whack is because its not your voice its different because its dubbed and possible different as apposed to you just copying and pasting.
Dont stack your vocals people just copy and paste the first verse u did thats all u gotta do thats what i do i use to stack my vocals but found it its much clearer and better quality when u copy and paste just drop the volume down on the second verse and just adlib words u went down on n what not
yes record the verse 1 time, thereafter, if you want to stack...drop in and out / you might Q&A your verse with ad libs. Just have fun and be creative.
@BlackDiamondmuzic adlibs is just repating the odd words, usually the ones at the ones that rhyme. you are technically stacking but thats a more precise type hence why it has it own name "adlib". stacking is repeating and re recording the whole verse
the key here is not to avoid stacking vocals, but rather to stack them well - stacking vocals produces a nice effect that you cannot get with programming...also having a good mic is important - i hope that shiny gold mic is not the sound that i hear on this video...lol
please can somebody help me out here?? say you record a verse and you're happy with it but you want the verse to be stacked. couldnt you just copy the first one and stack that instead of recording the whole verse. again. because if you use the same recording twice it wont be jumbled if you line it up right???
is it just me or do u think a producer should have a higher quality audio file with his tutorial video?.. also you have no idea what ure talking about and u are saying the same thing over and over.
im a producer and engineer and its really nothing wrong wit stacking or doubling vocals as long as the artist writes and remember his verse so every word will be on point .and also the engineer has to put a good mix on those doubles so it will sound crisp. so basically if u have a engineer with a good ear mixing your music everything should be cool
Great points … I recorded a group called 'Jade' some time ago and these girls were so tight we could have 36 vocals (overdub harmonies) deep and it sounded amazing. But you have to have the skills. We've got some great tips on how to get a great vocal sound even with an inexpensive mic ... check out our channel ... SecretPros.
Also check out Ready Acoustics ... GREAT room treatment for cheap!
as far as microphones.. they have a good one at best buy thats like 125$ otherwise im sure you could find a good deal on a microphone on ebay 123 pills
Stacking? It's correctly called "double tracking" and is used in almost every genre. Regarding repeating it exactly...WRONG! The whole idea is to get subtle variations in the 2 or even 3 takes or surely you would simply copy and paste the original take 2 or 3 times?? Well, you wouldn't do that due to phase cancellation as 1 important reason. Copy and paste can be used though with a plug-in that introduces those variations artificially for you. In conclusion, I'm not flaming - just correcting.
a lot of yall aint doin what he doin. he giving real information, and all that information is supposed to do is give you better ideas, help you to find out what works best for you. who really know not to "stack " your verses, before you heard somebody say ya music sound bad? and im talkin somebody on hot 97! Stackin might be better for you and all that ( or so you think), but just to understand the word take you to a whole other level. good lookin, expert village, appreciatin the info!!!!!!!!!!!
sorry guy in vid. iam gon have to disagree wit u on dat one of the best things you could do to ur rap vocals is stack em.. it gives it a better sound. it gives it strengh.. and if it is a lil bit off wit the first one u recorded then even better.. but just a bit not a whole lot though.. and then again sometimes it is best to just do one track and some adlibs but it all dependz on the person ur recording n not only cuz of the
sorry guy in vid. iam gon have to disagree wit u on dat one of the best things you could do to ur rap vocals is stack em.. it gives it a better sound. it gives it strengh.. and if it is a lil bit off wit the first one u recorded then even better.. but just a bit not a whole lot though.. and then again sometimes it is best to just do one track and some adlibs but it all dependz on the person ur recording n not only cuz of the sound of their voice but also the way they rap
@HOOJUANIT U GOTTA HEAR THA DIFFERENCE. RECORDING A DOUBLE WILL GIVE IT A SORT OF 'REVERB' EFFECT. BASICALLY AN EMPHASIS ON CERTAIN PARTS OF YA VERSE, OR THA WHOLE VERSE IF U WANT.
COPY AND PASTE JUST MAKES IT LOUDER.. LISTEN 2 'JUELZ SANTANA'
@HOOJUANIT U GOTTA HEAR THA DIFFERENCE. RECORDING A DOUBLE WILL GIVE IT A SORT OF 'REVERB' EFFECT. BASICALLY AN EMPHASIS ON CERTAIN PARTS OF YA VERSE, OR THA WHOLE VERSE IF U WANT.
@HOOJUANIT the difference is when you record twice your voice is never the same so it gives you more of a live feel..If you just paste the vocals it just makes them loud as fuck cause the voice is exactly the same.
@suicidaljay it only will be louder if you just stack em. i found the best case scenario is when you copy the vocal line make another track and put it right underneath the first one, then zoom in and drag the copied track a little to the right and i mean the tiniest bit. and it sounds fatty
lol you guys arguing over this shit are funny. It's all subjective art technique, you can get great results any path you walk down, but what matters is that you gotta keep your feet right!
I stack my vocals since the day i began writing music and the reason why i did was because i bealived it would give my vocals sound more profecional shit the bettles recorded a hole album using mono style recording and lil wayne records in hotels
@IQThuGz OK FAM I USUALLY STACK MY VOCS IN THE SENSE THAT EXPERT VILLAGE IS TALKING ABOUT BUT THEN I LAY MY ADLIBS DOWN WHICH IS USUALLY THE LAST 2 OR 3 WORDS AS U SAY SO JUST MAKE THINGS CLEAR IS THAT WHAT U ARE SAYING?
if you make your artist record all over to stack...your an idiot and a bad producer. All you have to do is double the vocals in the mixer...either on the software or the hardware mixer...
@EliAkAYuNgE PRO TOOLS HOMIE THATS THE BEST YOU CAN USE YES DIFFICULT BUT WORTH IT WARM SOUND IS NOT ABOUT THE MICROPHONE I HAVE THE neumann tlm 49 AND THATS NOT EVEN A WARM MIC JUST VERY PRECISE. THATS WHAT PRE AMPS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT IS FOR UNLESS YOU HAVE PLUG INS FOR THAT WHICH IS POSSIBLE TO BE DONE I DO IT TO BUT HARDWARE OVERCOMES SOFTWARE ANYDAY.
Stacking vocals do NOT sound like they have reverb on - they sound like they have chorus on, and thats the point of doing it.
However, it is correct that the rapper or singer has to be able to track (or stack) very accurately for it be both effective and musically useful.
Another way of using a single vocal and making it sound like its been tracked, is to copy the first vocal on to another track and shift it by around 6 to 10 ms forward in the track and panning slightly.
bad tip, stacking makes it sound more professional. but like you said if you arent that good you shouldnt do it.. I first learned how to stack or layer vocals from listening to R Kelly and noticed he puts his in Stereo Channel a lot for club songs, now i am a pro
Please dont duplicate the track and try to delay it! It sounds horrible unless you're trying to get some wierd effect....I've done it, tried it and the best way is to have them stack and use your volume to clean it up and not make it sound like 2 or 4 vox. Tinster sounds like a novist!!! No harm intended!!
i wanted to know, in the studio, do you have to raise your voice while rapping? sometimes i make that mistake cuz i just forget, but should u just go in there and ya kno, not raise your voice too much and just let it flow then let the engineer tweak the volume?
@briencrawford its the engineers responsiblilty he tells you if either to do so but if not then just do your part and the proper engineer does his thing
its not you man also depending on equipment and how its properly used cause if its just a mic into a interphase connected to the computer you will a flat dry sound but with combinations of compressors, gates, and pre amps makes the total difference before i had any of it i had to work twice as hard just to get a decent sound then i invested in a lot of money and now i barely even have to worry about mixing
@briencrawford rapping only when needed or neccesary but engineer compose arrange music produced mix master the whole 9 man it took years but its all worth it
do you want to sound professional or do you want to sound amateur. when doing that copy past and shifting it slighting gives it an effect not neccesarily sounding like a dub sounding more like a phaser which is ineffective trust me
@papito1219 I just wanted to know the best way to do it. Some rappers don't. I just wanted some better tips. If you dont think I try then check me out.
expert village definitely doesn't know what the hell they are talking about, doubling or "stacking" as he says, gives you a chorus effect and will become phasy if it is not performed well by the artist, and just duplicating the track and putting a delay on it doesn't give you the same effect, it just makes it louder and phasy, the point of doubling is that even the best artist will never ever EVER perform the same verse or whatever the exact same way, that natural chorus is what u r looking for
@jdeleon1234 i agree. most people can sing their lines the same- anyway, whatever happened to experimentation and learning for yourself what works and what doesn't, i personally buzz from just recording and seeing how it turns out. Best results arent so planned out.
@321dwood Professional studios do have top of the line high tech gear but a lot of Artist prefer to double their vox themselves instead of having some plug-in or other piece of gear try to replicate what that would sound like, but rarely do i ever see where they do it for a lot of bars in the song, doubling the whole chorus def is very popular but in the verses if they do decide to double it's usually parts here and their to accent certain words
@jdeleon1234 yo i can feel you on that one man.. i am an artist as well that stacks my vocals all the time.. thee best thing i found it good for is like you said that natural chorus effect, and too it also brings the harmonizing out alot.. awesome comment dude...
@jdeleon1234 Yeah your so right staking vocals is industry standard method for filling vocals and making them stick out in the mix bad advise not so expert village L:)
Unless you do more then one extra take. This is referred to as doubling. Stacking involves more then one extra pass. "Reverb like Effect" really? That's called phasing it is the natural time delay between the 2 passes. Expertvillage "shakes head"
dude have you ever heard of editing "apple +E" (separate region noobs) slip mode , hand tool learn how to edit and timing doesn't matter you give the worst advice ive ever heard.
i total agree i hate theses amatur cats who think thats the right way i got 2 da los angeles recording school and they tell us the same thing do not stack your verses thats why people dont get signed the right way is 2 lay ur verse 1time all the way though then do an over dub or key words then record your hook or chorus three times pan 1 hook or chorus hard left center hard right then listen and tell me if u see a better sounding vocal tracks
I got protools.... and since im wat he calls REALLY GOOD AT IT I do wat TUPAC DOES and i just record it threw then record it the same way again turn the track down, and pan it to the right about 35......or u can do what EMINEM DOES and record it threw take out all of the breathes, snap it to bar (put it on beat) then copy it and paste it to another track just a lil bit deeper, turn it down, and shift it about 24 to the left or right..... Or u can be a JAY-Z OR LIL WAYNE and go threw once wit nun
In Pro tools i enable the two red button so i can hear myself loud and good so when u edit it was be two wave bars but its really one vocal and then i record one more time and lower it and then i record on the left and right pan so total you get 5 tracks for one verse and if you mix well it wont sound nasty n like theirs many voices...you should try it.....Search Ososwagg
I need an example on stacking vocals. Like someone with a song where they tell me exactly where he did the stacking or something because i cant really picture this in my head?
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SONG YOUR DOING LIKE A SONG ABOUT YO LIFE AND STRUGGLE U WOULDNT STACK BECAUSE YOU WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE YOU TALKING TO THE PEOPLE LISTENIN BUT WHEN YOU DO STACK YOU PAN THEM A LIL ANYWAYS SO IT MAKES THE SOUND FULLER IT ADDS MORE POWER TO THE VOCAL BUT HEY PEOPLE DO STUFF DIFFERENT AS LONG AS IT SOUNDS GOOD IT DOESNT MATTER
You only record the vocal ptiches 1 time, and then leave those ptiches there as the hook. No harmony isn't needed to accompanying the hook. This makes the recording sound more pleasing.
This idiot has no clue on what "vocal stacking" is. "Vocal stacking" isn't making copies of the same variant vocal pitches. "Vocal stacking" is recording slight variations of the original vocal pitches point in time and then recording those pitches at the same time. Meaning different varaints of the vocal will be different from the previous vocal with the same pitches.
Hey I've been to a couple of studios to record some songs etc. and there's always this debate about recording verses...
Is it better to do the whole verse in one go, or to cut it into some parts?
What do y'all think?
I mean if you listen to some songs... like eminem now with "not afraid" I really doubt he did the verses in one go, as you put so much power in to your voice... to still keep it clear and correct thru the whole rhyme... I think he cuts em apart..
@MrRhyMan when i was recordin, i done each verse separtly and then it was put together by beat maker at end, it was easyer way and less chance of messing up words,
it don't make much different as no one will notice how verse are done when you hear finaly take
@MrRhyMan i think its better to cut the verses in parts, especially if your a fast rapper and you really want the verse to be clear and hype, cuz if you go all the way through eventually ur gonna take lots of breaths and ur gonna go out of ur hype towards the end from takin all those breaths unless ur a slow rapper like plies of young jeezy for example they could do a verse all the way through wit no prob cuz the pace so slow and you wouldnt run out of breath
@RealityWorldNMuzik soo you think eminem, busta, luda etc. cut there verses so they can put 150 % in each and every bar? I know what you mean... and If I hear songs it's almost impossible to imagine them doin the whole verse in one shot... other thing is you need a good producer to cut them after without noticing a difference... which em would certainly have with dre... ahahaha thanks for replying
@MrRhyMan no doubt i know for a fact they do...lil wayne especially does it...even tho he is no where near good as em ive seen him do it numerous time on studio vidoes..im a rapper and i do it myself all the time...and yes ur right u do have to have a good producer where to edit ur vocals so thats it not noticable, its really easy to do but u also need a good recording program for it...cool edit and adobe audition are not good programs for it in my opinion
He knows what he's talking about, it makes no sense to stack, people used to do that to make their voices in stereo but now theres plugins for that, i stack my choris in my songs 3 times only on occasion in songs but i make shure to pan two 50/50 and cut the one in the middle down low
Yeah, it brings out the emphasis, and gives you an opportunity to put in ad libs in the background.... and since when was it called 'stacking'? It's called overlays
@troyzapanta I get what you mean. But I've never worked with someone who used slang for processes of production. The only time we use slang in the studio is saying shit like 'spit some fire' 'blaze this joint' 'murder this track' which is all the same thing... but other then that, it's a pretty profesional atmosphere
That's useless. I don't know why so many people do that. All that does is make the vocal louder. Does nothing to make it more powerful. If you're gonna do it that way, you should pitch one down and pitch the other one up. Otherwise, just record it again!
Thanks for this video man, it took me forever to find someone who had some kind of actually advice on vocal stacking.
Spork376 2 weeks ago
wow. u need lotion on those elbows
Whippinazz 1 month ago 2
hey man you are the best....can u tell me which program is the best for vocal recordings for mac?
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a lot of eminem's choruses are have stacked vocals, but they sound really good though.
evilblackmagician 2 months ago
this is why i started hating lloyd banks music.
just13lazed 4 months ago
Thanks, That was great Advice man
ACDCletloose 4 months ago
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why not copy and paste it onto the next line
phillylilwaynefan 5 months ago
Use Vocalign
The1nOnlyUncleBrian 5 months ago
stacking is also used to give ur vocal a different effect
like make ur voice sound different more harsh or more thick
there r plenty of signed mcz who stack there vocals and it sounds perfect
N83R951 5 months ago
Stacking Vocals is key in recording. I kno I can do it everytime I Get in the both. But its all on the person doing the recording too. If They only like to do Dubs an adlibs than thats thier style and thats how they do it. but for guys like me I have to stack them in Half bar patterens. Thats just the way that I do it. But in my opion stacking is one of the key ingredents toi a good mix on a hip hop song
kondemned07 5 months ago
In my opinion you can pretty much "stack" your vocals as long as you dont have the same volume levels... same with just copying and pasting... The only reason why I think stacking your vocals is whack is because its not your voice its different because its dubbed and possible different as apposed to you just copying and pasting.
Jenerous116 6 months ago
@803mltg thanks man i guess money cant buy you that
kawasakikid800 6 months ago
checkout my vid
zdub4life 6 months ago
stack them and just put the second vocal into a low volume...
TheTurbanTV 6 months ago
2pac stacked vocals
RJAYferia3 6 months ago
Dont stack your vocals people just copy and paste the first verse u did thats all u gotta do thats what i do i use to stack my vocals but found it its much clearer and better quality when u copy and paste just drop the volume down on the second verse and just adlib words u went down on n what not
VersusTheBeat 6 months ago
@VersusTheBeat all that does is make it louder not doubled
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a2bmusic 6 months ago
yes record the verse 1 time, thereafter, if you want to stack...drop in and out / you might Q&A your verse with ad libs. Just have fun and be creative.
SuperR317 7 months ago
it was dust, which came into the light @ 1:47
SuperR317 7 months ago
i clicked on this because the thumbnail looked like Jay-Z... lmao damn
TheJaGGSTR 7 months ago
@TheJaGGSTR same lmao
DJAPK 6 months ago
If your a nujabes fan google Requiem de Nujabes it's a great tribute
OriginalOrigins 7 months ago in playlist music industry
aww man,I thought this was Jay-Z...........-_-
otownsrealist 7 months ago
I tried stacking vocals, and it came out pretty good, but on some of my songs I messed up because I couldn't get the same exact rhythm.
afcweswarrior 7 months ago
is stacking vocals the same adlibs??
BlackDiamondmuzic 7 months ago
@BlackDiamondmuzic adlibs is just repating the odd words, usually the ones at the ones that rhyme. you are technically stacking but thats a more precise type hence why it has it own name "adlib". stacking is repeating and re recording the whole verse
MrDiceeeee 6 months ago
SO TRUE
HOODSTARTRACKS 8 months ago
i stack my vocals all the time but how do you equalize it in the mix thats what i wanna no cause that is bothering me and i'll never find out.
jreaper5000000 8 months ago
Anyone else notice the orb appear above his left shoulder at 1:47?
WhoIsFlo 8 months ago
ya i seen that orb too
rjsfr 7 months ago
the key here is not to avoid stacking vocals, but rather to stack them well - stacking vocals produces a nice effect that you cannot get with programming...also having a good mic is important - i hope that shiny gold mic is not the sound that i hear on this video...lol
ccaaofficial 8 months ago
I love that mic
GreyCoinProductions 9 months ago
This dude reminds me of Jay-Z lol
mikenew11 9 months ago
or....
...you can use Vocalign
pipaguapique 9 months ago
please can somebody help me out here?? say you record a verse and you're happy with it but you want the verse to be stacked. couldnt you just copy the first one and stack that instead of recording the whole verse. again. because if you use the same recording twice it wont be jumbled if you line it up right???
kawasakikid800 10 months ago
is it just me or do u think a producer should have a higher quality audio file with his tutorial video?.. also you have no idea what ure talking about and u are saying the same thing over and over.
chrishons 10 months ago
record the bit of whatever youre tryna put in and the repeat it...lol
idaman112 10 months ago
I hate the "Fix it in the mix" mentality. Why not get it right the first time?
SmileysRevenge100 10 months ago
im a producer and engineer and its really nothing wrong wit stacking or doubling vocals as long as the artist writes and remember his verse so every word will be on point .and also the engineer has to put a good mix on those doubles so it will sound crisp. so basically if u have a engineer with a good ear mixing your music everything should be cool
dollap136 10 months ago
Actually they call it dubing and it makes it sound much better
RachetBeatz 10 months ago
yu could bruh i needs 2 get at yu personally
rapaholic254 10 months ago
lol copy and paste
musac51tacc 11 months ago
@xBLAKxV3N0Mx I been doing doubles/adlibs for years so im good at matching my tempo and pitch of my voice so it doesnt sound all off balance.
suicidaljay 11 months ago
Great points … I recorded a group called 'Jade' some time ago and these girls were so tight we could have 36 vocals (overdub harmonies) deep and it sounded amazing. But you have to have the skills. We've got some great tips on how to get a great vocal sound even with an inexpensive mic ... check out our channel ... SecretPros.
Also check out Ready Acoustics ... GREAT room treatment for cheap!
secretpros 11 months ago
he said "stacking vocals" 17 times.
wilky1189 11 months ago
as far as microphones.. they have a good one at best buy thats like 125$ otherwise im sure you could find a good deal on a microphone on ebay 123 pills
hholland93 11 months ago
hey bro...can you help me out find the best home recording software....pplllzzz...
123pils1 11 months ago
doesnt, thats my point its a practice and being a musician thing keylowick
hholland93 11 months ago
i know a great way to stack vocals... copy paste!
cod4door 11 months ago
@cod4door that's what i usually do too
KeyloWick 11 months ago
Just side chain a gate off the better take and it'll tidy it right up. DONE
20firstcenturykid 11 months ago
dude im a white kid from vermont and i can make it sound good stacked any day of the week, and im not slug from atmosphere by any means lol
hholland93 11 months ago
@hholland93 why does it matter if you're white?
KeyloWick 11 months ago
Surely you could just double the first vocal track
AWWRRGGHH 1 year ago
hey, can give me some hints, i need some help with recording techiques, i want to record clearly but dont know how?
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201052865 1 year ago
Stacking? It's correctly called "double tracking" and is used in almost every genre. Regarding repeating it exactly...WRONG! The whole idea is to get subtle variations in the 2 or even 3 takes or surely you would simply copy and paste the original take 2 or 3 times?? Well, you wouldn't do that due to phase cancellation as 1 important reason. Copy and paste can be used though with a plug-in that introduces those variations artificially for you. In conclusion, I'm not flaming - just correcting.
TerrySH1971 1 year ago
a lot of yall aint doin what he doin. he giving real information, and all that information is supposed to do is give you better ideas, help you to find out what works best for you. who really know not to "stack " your verses, before you heard somebody say ya music sound bad? and im talkin somebody on hot 97! Stackin might be better for you and all that ( or so you think), but just to understand the word take you to a whole other level. good lookin, expert village, appreciatin the info!!!!!!!!!!!
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sorry guy in vid. iam gon have to disagree wit u on dat one of the best things you could do to ur rap vocals is stack em.. it gives it a better sound. it gives it strengh.. and if it is a lil bit off wit the first one u recorded then even better.. but just a bit not a whole lot though.. and then again sometimes it is best to just do one track and some adlibs but it all dependz on the person ur recording n not only cuz of the
sound of their voice but also the way they rap
starRecordz01 1 year ago
sorry guy in vid. iam gon have to disagree wit u on dat one of the best things you could do to ur rap vocals is stack em.. it gives it a better sound. it gives it strengh.. and if it is a lil bit off wit the first one u recorded then even better.. but just a bit not a whole lot though.. and then again sometimes it is best to just do one track and some adlibs but it all dependz on the person ur recording n not only cuz of the sound of their voice but also the way they rap
starRecordz01 1 year ago
eey guy please check this song : /watch?v=kjo5Gb9MA2Q please ! and send this song all your Friends
KforRecordz 1 year ago
How to get a full sound vocal without stacking?
ThundaGlow 1 year ago
i call that being dubbed...
wilrules23 1 year ago
I think he means the rhythm of the vox flow becomes interrupted when 'stacked'.
ApojeRecords 1 year ago
WHATS THE DIFFERENCE OF RECORDING TWICE AND COPY AND PASTING THE SAME FIRST TAKE
HOOJUANIT 1 year ago
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@HOOJUANIT U GOTTA HEAR THA DIFFERENCE. RECORDING A DOUBLE WILL GIVE IT A SORT OF 'REVERB' EFFECT. BASICALLY AN EMPHASIS ON CERTAIN PARTS OF YA VERSE, OR THA WHOLE VERSE IF U WANT.
COPY AND PASTE JUST MAKES IT LOUDER.. LISTEN 2 'JUELZ SANTANA'
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@HOOJUANIT U GOTTA HEAR THA DIFFERENCE. RECORDING A DOUBLE WILL GIVE IT A SORT OF 'REVERB' EFFECT. BASICALLY AN EMPHASIS ON CERTAIN PARTS OF YA VERSE, OR THA WHOLE VERSE IF U WANT.
COPY AND PASTE JUST MAKES IT LOUDER..
LISTEN 2 JUELZ SANTANA
scrill20 1 year ago
@HOOJUANIT the difference is when you record twice your voice is never the same so it gives you more of a live feel..If you just paste the vocals it just makes them loud as fuck cause the voice is exactly the same.
suicidaljay 1 year ago 8
@suicidaljay it only will be louder if you just stack em. i found the best case scenario is when you copy the vocal line make another track and put it right underneath the first one, then zoom in and drag the copied track a little to the right and i mean the tiniest bit. and it sounds fatty
pokesmot831 8 months ago
lol you guys arguing over this shit are funny. It's all subjective art technique, you can get great results any path you walk down, but what matters is that you gotta keep your feet right!
BandWagonDisaster 1 year ago 2
Layering Vocals sounds like Shit. Mainly because of the artist. Just like he's saying.
BandWagonDisaster 1 year ago
I stack my vocals since the day i began writing music and the reason why i did was because i bealived it would give my vocals sound more profecional shit the bettles recorded a hole album using mono style recording and lil wayne records in hotels
bigdeeyuca 1 year ago
@bigdeeyuca And the Beatles.
FuturedaveyP 1 year ago
Wouldn't this be the same thing as overdubbing?
jederguy98 1 year ago
What mic is he using?
Mandem1001 1 year ago
should i record in mono or stereo?
im confused with that
ryanj456 1 year ago
@ryanj456 mono mix my dude
StreatEntertainment 1 year ago
@ryanj456 record in mono.Always in mono.One
projektcancer 1 year ago
That studio is haunted as fuck.
JadeMoore 1 year ago
eminem stacks his vocals ( in the way i am its very clare) and his songs sound perfect to me..
SpazmaticAttack 1 year ago
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papito1219 1 year ago
do it you own way.
KasperMedC 1 year ago
@KasperMedC no homie do it the right way.
papito1219 1 year ago
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im a rapper and i know to record a verse . what you need to do is recording 3 times
1 : normal vocals ( the first voice )
2: you need do record a second voice . second voice is important it gives the song a better taste :P
3: u need to record double voice . just the last 2 or 3 words of the sense
then u have to mix it sure . you can use mixcraft for editing its very easy program to use
and im ready for any questions ^^
IQThuGz 1 year ago
im a rapper and i know how to record a verse . what you need to do is recording 3 times
1 : normal vocals ( the first voice )
2: you need do record a second voice . second voice is important it gives the song a better taste and u get a chorus effect .
3: u need to record double voice . just the last 2 or 3 words of the sense
then u have to mix it sure . you can use mixcraft for editing its very easy program to use
and im ready for any questions ^^
IQThuGz 1 year ago
@IQThuGz OK FAM I USUALLY STACK MY VOCS IN THE SENSE THAT EXPERT VILLAGE IS TALKING ABOUT BUT THEN I LAY MY ADLIBS DOWN WHICH IS USUALLY THE LAST 2 OR 3 WORDS AS U SAY SO JUST MAKE THINGS CLEAR IS THAT WHAT U ARE SAYING?
flous1 1 year ago
@flous1 Brotha i will explain it to you
first u have to record the frist vocal right ?
then you have to record another one but in this one you have to record just the last 2 or 3 words of the sense
For example
you record this sense first
I know this crack fiend Maxine who needs a vaccine
She tests positive but tells you that her act's clean
and in the second one u record ( who needs a vaccine ) and ( her act's clean )
but you must practice a lot because you have to do it in the right time
IQThuGz 1 year ago
@IQThuGz i got u fam good lookin...
flous1 1 year ago
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IQThuGz 1 year ago
@briencrawford it takes one set of vocals from this (...) and makes it this (..............)
in easy terms to expalin it . you tell me
papito1219 1 year ago
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devan100z 1 year ago
if you make your artist record all over to stack...your an idiot and a bad producer. All you have to do is double the vocals in the mixer...either on the software or the hardware mixer...
utprizzo 1 year ago
expert village dumb a hell
NeseDotSheezy 1 year ago
So then, what's the difference between "stacking" and "over dubbing (e.g. doubling vox tracks)?
degrande707 1 year ago
is Acid pro a good software to use and how would i get that warm sound i have an akg microphone
EliAkAYuNgE 1 year ago
@EliAkAYuNgE PRO TOOLS HOMIE THATS THE BEST YOU CAN USE YES DIFFICULT BUT WORTH IT WARM SOUND IS NOT ABOUT THE MICROPHONE I HAVE THE neumann tlm 49 AND THATS NOT EVEN A WARM MIC JUST VERY PRECISE. THATS WHAT PRE AMPS AND OTHER EQUIPMENT IS FOR UNLESS YOU HAVE PLUG INS FOR THAT WHICH IS POSSIBLE TO BE DONE I DO IT TO BUT HARDWARE OVERCOMES SOFTWARE ANYDAY.
papito1219 1 year ago
i used the first words he said in my Knife Party EP, just thaught i'd let you know expert village, cheers
t6yz 1 year ago 13
if you stack and eq the second track so there's no frequency clash it won't sound that bad
BeatPerfection 1 year ago
i didnt think this was recording a crap song
Covert529 1 year ago
Stacking vocals do NOT sound like they have reverb on - they sound like they have chorus on, and thats the point of doing it.
However, it is correct that the rapper or singer has to be able to track (or stack) very accurately for it be both effective and musically useful.
Another way of using a single vocal and making it sound like its been tracked, is to copy the first vocal on to another track and shift it by around 6 to 10 ms forward in the track and panning slightly.
This really works.
throbule 1 year ago
bad tip, stacking makes it sound more professional. but like you said if you arent that good you shouldnt do it.. I first learned how to stack or layer vocals from listening to R Kelly and noticed he puts his in Stereo Channel a lot for club songs, now i am a pro
proent 1 year ago
THANX FOR THE ADVICE FAM'
@tinster666- Thanx for the advice on the delay
-LAW-
LAWLEFTFIELD 1 year ago
you can line stacks up!
MiSKAYlA1 1 year ago
2 minutes 37 seconds...
you could of just said..."Don't stack your vocals, it'll sound jumbled."
BAM! 3 seconds and you won't take people's time...I'm fast huh?
ogtgp 1 year ago
@ogtgp
twright778 1 year ago
Jdeleon and Tyse know what they're talking about!!!!!
LintoneMuzick 1 year ago
Please dont duplicate the track and try to delay it! It sounds horrible unless you're trying to get some wierd effect....I've done it, tried it and the best way is to have them stack and use your volume to clean it up and not make it sound like 2 or 4 vox. Tinster sounds like a novist!!! No harm intended!!
LintoneMuzick 1 year ago
@LintoneMuzick THANK YOUU
papito1219 1 year ago
i wanted to know, in the studio, do you have to raise your voice while rapping? sometimes i make that mistake cuz i just forget, but should u just go in there and ya kno, not raise your voice too much and just let it flow then let the engineer tweak the volume?
briencrawford 1 year ago
@briencrawford its the engineers responsiblilty he tells you if either to do so but if not then just do your part and the proper engineer does his thing
papito1219 1 year ago
@papito1219 thanks! i hope that works cuz i dont wanna go in there at a normal volume and it sound boring lol
briencrawford 1 year ago
@briencrawford
its not you man also depending on equipment and how its properly used cause if its just a mic into a interphase connected to the computer you will a flat dry sound but with combinations of compressors, gates, and pre amps makes the total difference before i had any of it i had to work twice as hard just to get a decent sound then i invested in a lot of money and now i barely even have to worry about mixing
papito1219 1 year ago
@papito1219 word! thats whats up!!!! u rap and engineer?
briencrawford 1 year ago
@briencrawford rapping only when needed or neccesary but engineer compose arrange music produced mix master the whole 9 man it took years but its all worth it
papito1219 1 year ago
Lil Wayne does it it sounds good you r dum u no that
zakkgopher 1 year ago
Max B can do it all day stacken
jagshemash3 1 year ago
is it possible to just copy the vocals again then just to stack'em?
StefonThaLion 1 year ago
@StefonThaLion thats like delay it will sound wierd like a robot
jagshemash3 1 year ago
stop being lazy and stack take the time to do it right
papito1219 1 year ago
@papito1219 its not being lazy. I just want it to be perfect
StefonThaLion 1 year ago
@StefonThaLion
do you want to sound professional or do you want to sound amateur. when doing that copy past and shifting it slighting gives it an effect not neccesarily sounding like a dub sounding more like a phaser which is ineffective trust me
papito1219 1 year ago
@StefonThaLion want it prfect then record it perfect bro it is what it is you want perfect sometimes you have to put forth the effort brah
papito1219 1 year ago
@papito1219 I just wanted to know the best way to do it. Some rappers don't. I just wanted some better tips. If you dont think I try then check me out.
StefonThaLion 1 year ago
expert village definitely doesn't know what the hell they are talking about, doubling or "stacking" as he says, gives you a chorus effect and will become phasy if it is not performed well by the artist, and just duplicating the track and putting a delay on it doesn't give you the same effect, it just makes it louder and phasy, the point of doubling is that even the best artist will never ever EVER perform the same verse or whatever the exact same way, that natural chorus is what u r looking for
jdeleon1234 1 year ago 19
@jdeleon1234 you said it in one. Expert village is more like idiot village, well, from what i've witnessed in these "recording" series's.
fizikal2008 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 i agree. most people can sing their lines the same- anyway, whatever happened to experimentation and learning for yourself what works and what doesn't, i personally buzz from just recording and seeing how it turns out. Best results arent so planned out.
FuturedaveyP 1 year ago
@FuturedaveyP Yes a lot of good things seem to happen during experimentation when u least expect it haha
jdeleon1234 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 i feel you he trippin but pro's have more high tech gear to where they don't have to stack
321dwood 1 year ago
@321dwood Professional studios do have top of the line high tech gear but a lot of Artist prefer to double their vox themselves instead of having some plug-in or other piece of gear try to replicate what that would sound like, but rarely do i ever see where they do it for a lot of bars in the song, doubling the whole chorus def is very popular but in the verses if they do decide to double it's usually parts here and their to accent certain words
jdeleon1234 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 ya u right i hear but wat i was really trying to say was that with the gear they have the vocals on verses sound good alone
321dwood 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 yo i can feel you on that one man.. i am an artist as well that stacks my vocals all the time.. thee best thing i found it good for is like you said that natural chorus effect, and too it also brings the harmonizing out alot.. awesome comment dude...
4rcedfedimpreza 1 year ago
@4rcedfedimpreza Thanx man, Audio is life haha
jdeleon1234 1 year ago
@4rcedfedimpreza so whats the right thing to do? cuz i have 0 knowledge when it comes to this recording whatsoever... =)
LT2AD 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 Yeah your so right staking vocals is industry standard method for filling vocals and making them stick out in the mix bad advise not so expert village L:)
TheDarrennewman 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 daaamn dats truth!! chek out my songs they r dope ;D
eltotomzuik 1 year ago
@jdeleon1234 Fix it in the mix he says.....enough said
jdeleon1234 1 year ago
Unless you do more then one extra take. This is referred to as doubling. Stacking involves more then one extra pass. "Reverb like Effect" really? That's called phasing it is the natural time delay between the 2 passes. Expertvillage "shakes head"
jrtme 1 year ago
i only stack my vocals for a chorus that gives u a more powerfull one even when you put down both verses
olufas 1 year ago
dude have you ever heard of editing "apple +E" (separate region noobs) slip mode , hand tool learn how to edit and timing doesn't matter you give the worst advice ive ever heard.
djveto 1 year ago
i total agree i hate theses amatur cats who think thats the right way i got 2 da los angeles recording school and they tell us the same thing do not stack your verses thats why people dont get signed the right way is 2 lay ur verse 1time all the way though then do an over dub or key words then record your hook or chorus three times pan 1 hook or chorus hard left center hard right then listen and tell me if u see a better sounding vocal tracks
danxsmoke 1 year ago
MXL V69 Mogami Edition Tube Microphone
ThisisTyse 1 year ago
what is that mic's name ??
Direboy92 1 year ago
I got protools.... and since im wat he calls REALLY GOOD AT IT I do wat TUPAC DOES and i just record it threw then record it the same way again turn the track down, and pan it to the right about 35......or u can do what EMINEM DOES and record it threw take out all of the breathes, snap it to bar (put it on beat) then copy it and paste it to another track just a lil bit deeper, turn it down, and shift it about 24 to the left or right..... Or u can be a JAY-Z OR LIL WAYNE and go threw once wit nun
ThisisTyse 1 year ago
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ThisisTyse 1 year ago
In Pro tools i enable the two red button so i can hear myself loud and good so when u edit it was be two wave bars but its really one vocal and then i record one more time and lower it and then i record on the left and right pan so total you get 5 tracks for one verse and if you mix well it wont sound nasty n like theirs many voices...you should try it.....Search Ososwagg
ososwagg 1 year ago
One Word......... Tupac
ThisisTyse 1 year ago
I need an example on stacking vocals. Like someone with a song where they tell me exactly where he did the stacking or something because i cant really picture this in my head?
Phresh95 1 year ago
IT REALLY DEPENDS ON THE TYPE OF SONG YOUR DOING LIKE A SONG ABOUT YO LIFE AND STRUGGLE U WOULDNT STACK BECAUSE YOU WANT IT TO SOUND LIKE YOU TALKING TO THE PEOPLE LISTENIN BUT WHEN YOU DO STACK YOU PAN THEM A LIL ANYWAYS SO IT MAKES THE SOUND FULLER IT ADDS MORE POWER TO THE VOCAL BUT HEY PEOPLE DO STUFF DIFFERENT AS LONG AS IT SOUNDS GOOD IT DOESNT MATTER
321dwood 1 year ago
i also stack vocals and it make my voice sound tougher than it exactly is, but its hard to time it perfectly
TheYoungMCHage 1 year ago
i no man i hat when people stack ther vocals it sounds nasty
bigmonthebeat 1 year ago
this nigga dnt noe wut he tawkin bout i been stackin ma shit fa years
MrShoyarite 1 year ago
You only record the vocal ptiches 1 time, and then leave those ptiches there as the hook. No harmony isn't needed to accompanying the hook. This makes the recording sound more pleasing.
Rookerman32 1 year ago
This idiot has no clue on what "vocal stacking" is. "Vocal stacking" isn't making copies of the same variant vocal pitches. "Vocal stacking" is recording slight variations of the original vocal pitches point in time and then recording those pitches at the same time. Meaning different varaints of the vocal will be different from the previous vocal with the same pitches.
Rookerman32 1 year ago
Hey I've been to a couple of studios to record some songs etc. and there's always this debate about recording verses...
Is it better to do the whole verse in one go, or to cut it into some parts?
What do y'all think?
I mean if you listen to some songs... like eminem now with "not afraid" I really doubt he did the verses in one go, as you put so much power in to your voice... to still keep it clear and correct thru the whole rhyme... I think he cuts em apart..
How do you do it?
thanks
MrRhyMan 1 year ago
@MrRhyMan when i was recordin, i done each verse separtly and then it was put together by beat maker at end, it was easyer way and less chance of messing up words,
it don't make much different as no one will notice how verse are done when you hear finaly take
Artymc1 1 year ago
@MrRhyMan i think its better to cut the verses in parts, especially if your a fast rapper and you really want the verse to be clear and hype, cuz if you go all the way through eventually ur gonna take lots of breaths and ur gonna go out of ur hype towards the end from takin all those breaths unless ur a slow rapper like plies of young jeezy for example they could do a verse all the way through wit no prob cuz the pace so slow and you wouldnt run out of breath
RealityWorldNMuzik 1 year ago
@RealityWorldNMuzik soo you think eminem, busta, luda etc. cut there verses so they can put 150 % in each and every bar? I know what you mean... and If I hear songs it's almost impossible to imagine them doin the whole verse in one shot... other thing is you need a good producer to cut them after without noticing a difference... which em would certainly have with dre... ahahaha thanks for replying
MrRhyMan 1 year ago
@MrRhyMan no doubt i know for a fact they do...lil wayne especially does it...even tho he is no where near good as em ive seen him do it numerous time on studio vidoes..im a rapper and i do it myself all the time...and yes ur right u do have to have a good producer where to edit ur vocals so thats it not noticable, its really easy to do but u also need a good recording program for it...cool edit and adobe audition are not good programs for it in my opinion
RealityWorldNMuzik 1 year ago
yeah...OR some sick ass plugins that do that shit for you....gotta lot
mrwright909 1 year ago
i always stack my vocs. it turns out okay so i aint got a problem with it.
MRxxFREESTYLE 1 year ago
This makes a lot of sense yo
d-_-b DKS
dkiddspitta 1 year ago
david blaine its that u
berggoldberd619 1 year ago
I'm sorry, recording through the same verse twice is not recording two vocals twice lol
zachabend 1 year ago
wich program is the best to record yourself on PC and make yout own tracks
mootjemrbt 1 year ago
well me personally, i recommend adobe audition 3 but other people may say differently.
YoungFlame1377 1 year ago
is this not just called double tracking
MartfulBodger 1 year ago
He knows what he's talking about, it makes no sense to stack, people used to do that to make their voices in stereo but now theres plugins for that, i stack my choris in my songs 3 times only on occasion in songs but i make shure to pan two 50/50 and cut the one in the middle down low
djshawty21 1 year ago
Yeah, it brings out the emphasis, and gives you an opportunity to put in ad libs in the background.... and since when was it called 'stacking'? It's called overlays
ExodusFaces 1 year ago
@ExodusFaces
uhmm... ghetto terminology? :/
troyzapanta 1 year ago
@troyzapanta I get what you mean. But I've never worked with someone who used slang for processes of production. The only time we use slang in the studio is saying shit like 'spit some fire' 'blaze this joint' 'murder this track' which is all the same thing... but other then that, it's a pretty profesional atmosphere
ExodusFaces 1 year ago
@ExodusFaces
oh... I'm not a pro... hehe...
troyzapanta 1 year ago
guess that means im really good cause all my shit stacked and dont none of it sound jumbled
k2stypoint 1 year ago
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718ufo 1 year ago
i just duplicate the verse and pan one left and the other right
718ufo 1 year ago 2
That's useless. I don't know why so many people do that. All that does is make the vocal louder. Does nothing to make it more powerful. If you're gonna do it that way, you should pitch one down and pitch the other one up. Otherwise, just record it again!
djhellfire1 1 year ago
i stack 3 for hooks..and 2 less gain and pan them..i stack 2 for verses and then i do my ad libs but when i stack i lower the gain sounds way better
GrateMusik 1 year ago