@VollllReich 100% correct. fucking asshole WT. Ting and Kernsprecht have made lots of money from gullable young people. WT shit... leung ting tong...lol
@mad1966dog correct people waste lotttss of money to pass student grades or to be allowed to train on wooden dummy, in ving tsun we dont have grades, everyone is equal and everyone helps each other and shows THE FULL system not just bit by bit
Leung Ting your Grandma could beat him in a fight! He made his rep on the back of others such as Boztepe. He was never a closed door student of Yip Man but now he is wealthy , anyone putting that in print in magazine or book he can legally challenge because he has the money to fight it. If people think Leung Ting WT is great good for them but look at other Wing Chun too - don't be closed minded. ''When Two Men Are Equal - Flatulence Is King!''.
In my country, we have a saying: better to be in people's mouths, than in their legs. Everyone keeps talking sh*t about GM Leung Ting and the WT system, but I doubt all of you Gary Lam / WSL / VT practitioners have even come across EWTO :)
look up hong kong ving tsun association to see if your school is in Yip Man Wing chun lineage. Guess what - Greatgrandmaster Leung Tings school is listed. If you don't know the Hong Kong Ving Tsun association you don't know any abot Wing chun
I know Gary Lam followed WSL / Ip Man trainings, and if you appreciate Gary Lam system, you'd be surprise to see the benefit of WSL/Philipp Bayer training. Hope you'll have a chance to train with PhB one day. Merry Christmas.
There was a student who came over to Asia from Germany a really nice guy. He joined the class here and he said that the wing chun he had learned from Leung ting lineage did not do shit against somebody with good forward energy. He said they were quite flashy with the moves but had no forward intent and he had to relearn all of his wing chun.
@cornwallgeezer the guy who came over to asia is called Phillipp Bayer, I met him and he is THE WingChun Master, for sure! Leung ting system is shit and full of weakness. Leung ask you 20 year of your life and almost all your money to learn NOTHING good. Don't loose time with it, Go ahead and learn Won shun Leung system wich is perfectly efficient.
@djangh0 Thanks for the information, yeah have been learning Gary lam / wong shun leung system for a while now and it's great. I also studied with ip man's nephew here in taiwan but left after four months because it was not good and I opened my eyes, have a brilliant instructor here, good price and a really friendly class, 'no egos'.
The amount they are charging in Europe is ridiculous!!! Even the real greats of wing chun don't charge that!!!
Merry Christmas and keep practicing.JOHN UK/TAIWAN
@cornwallgeezer . Yeah he is another great teacher, we have a German friend who has come over for studying Chinese and he is currently studying with Philip Bayer!
it´s totally commercial and your off money before you can even defend yourself -.-"
and the worst part .... the WT way is full of gabs !! ... probably that´s why you always see bad WT videos which wt-students getting their asses kicked or are aweful representives of their martial art !
most of the time you see him pushing around other students who were taught the same way. it might be that he is one of the most superior ones in the way leung thing teaches... but everything works if you´re gifted enough in doing it lol
and he just is very good.
what i mean there is other wc ways which teach it less complicated and more effective so that you don´t need great skills to be good... and especially they aren´t that expenssive.
... i found out that me and a member of my WC club, where looking for a new school after just 1 year of training. were superior then 2 other sifus from diffrent WT-schools, in chi-sao etc. because of that certain kind of "mistakes" which are mostly the reason why WT students fail that awefull when it comes to a real fight =P
... and that the common excuses, when they failed, that WT doesn´t work in sparring fights. because of the lethal attacks is bullshit! you can do well without it as well.
@schulleee did you ever see Sifu Salih Avci he beat Emin Boztepe on the ground, he invented the wing tsun anti ground fight and up today i haven t seen someone better then him , he was teached by keith kernspecht a deciple of leung ting , both salih and emin where long time friends and sihings until that day in berlin where emin lost on the ground , in 1998 an accident happened in the ewto and sifu salih went out of this org and builded the avci wing tsun shools , how do you think about him ?
what he does looks again sooo complicated =( wing chun is supposed to be easy! his way looks like krav maga.... sure it looks all very effective and very spectacular and i am sure that if you´re a well trained guy you can do good with that !
... but i think wing chun gets most effective if you always imagine to be a small, weak woman, doing it cause that´s just what it was made for and i can´t see any small, weak woman fight like that lol
i for example am tall and muscular myself and i still prefer fighting like as if i would be a small woman... it just makes it even more effective then =P
example:
i am very nerdy about keeping my back and my shoulders right so every punch is enough to make people fly all over the place (same as in taiji quan)
and usually 1 punch is enough to knock sb out.... but using the 12 sections/ combos and combine them with each other, making a 3 part combination, you can kill sb in 1-2 sec.
@sc i am small & it sound familiar my oppon. use to fly away after the first strikes of chain punches , to be frankly i never needed more , in case of sifu salih avci he is legend in germany , i remember when his younger brother 2tch, degree got into trouble with another sifu of the ewto 5 pg and he beat the soul out of him next day he had to leave the ewto , he is still the best skilled fighter i know , he is the only one who has over 600 street fights with multiple op. without loosing even one
@sch i think you can learn techn. from what ever shool you want if you dont habe the heart to fight it is useless , salih avci is very small but he beat emin on the ground the german sweat swears on him the day he left the ewto all his deciples went too there was not even one who stayed , i was very lucky to meet such a teacher because far as i know there is no other one i know who has this experience , he invented the ground fight in wt , but to be frankly i don t know WC or the way they fight
he really must be good then in the way he does his job :P
... i just don´t get the sense of all those many action like:
take opponents weapon > punchcombination > takedown > kick to the head ... is that all really necessary ? lets take a 3 combo of the 12 sections, which could be:
elbow to the head/ neck (8) > trible chop/ chainpunches to face or throat (5) > then again (8) let´s say this time to the jaw
.... isn´t that already more than enough ? wouldn´t more be just sadism ?
@schulleee you have to see that he is trying to teach his system , he is the number one sifu for the german SWAT called SEK and the MEK there you´ll need such techn. maybe , in a normal streetfight with someone without skills in martial arts you are absolutly right , but why not learn it , and as you know if you have done your training well enough you don t have to think about what am i gone to do you just do it , trust your body-intelligence stop thinking and move , this is what he had teach me
@schulleee if you live here and you are near by cologne you should , i personally believe that he is the greatest master of our time in this martial art , i don t know not even one who has such an expierence and has tested everything in reality he had very legendary fights and as a result of this street fights he invented the ground fight techn, he has skilled fighters of all diciplines when i was there i had the luck to train with an european former muay thai champion this is som. you cant pay
@schulleee and he is absolutly not interested in money making , when i had trouble to pay him he just said save your money and send me some if you can pay thats it never lost a word about it, ppl who go there can check the shool for a very long time they will not come to you and ask you , you have to ask , he is absolutly the opposite of everything i have seen or heared in this scene , and as i said who knows him is loves him
@schulleee but i don t know if you are luky enough to meet with him , he travels arround the world and is training all kinds of special forces , the times have changed he got very famous in the 90´s when i started we where very lucky because he was up to 3 -4 times a week there and you could train with him today you have to train with the si hings there but if you stay long enough and work hard enough he will recognize you for sure .
leung ting perfected the wing chun system..wing tsun is the only form of wing chun which could be applied on the street..forget the traditional wing chun.
@SeanT210 :That does not change the fact he cheated on his old hack wife, knocked up and beat up his ho with his Leung Thug Wing Tsun Thug Sao. Nor it will change that fact that he is a scum sucking low life. O.J. killed two people and he is free too! It does not meant he did not do it!
@mofotox if your gonna repeat the story, repeat it right...She even admitted she tried to jump an he grabbed her...It was nothing more then political bullshyt..for you to compare Grand Master Leung Ting to OJ shows me how little you truly know
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philip Bayer is the Man in Germany
mad1966dog 1 month ago
philip Bayer is the Man in Germany
mad1966dog 1 month ago
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mad1966dog 1 month ago
leung ting = commercial money machine nothing else
VollllReich 1 month ago
@VollllReich = the fool on the hill ( nothing else )
ting1895 1 month ago
@VollllReich 100% correct. fucking asshole WT. Ting and Kernsprecht have made lots of money from gullable young people. WT shit... leung ting tong...lol
mad1966dog 1 month ago
@mad1966dog correct people waste lotttss of money to pass student grades or to be allowed to train on wooden dummy, in ving tsun we dont have grades, everyone is equal and everyone helps each other and shows THE FULL system not just bit by bit
VollllReich 1 month ago
It's no honor or pride to beat own student brutally in a demonstration.
Trgvo 2 months ago
MInuto 2.04 ;D biennnn!!
2enato 2 months ago
Leung Ting your Grandma could beat him in a fight! He made his rep on the back of others such as Boztepe. He was never a closed door student of Yip Man but now he is wealthy , anyone putting that in print in magazine or book he can legally challenge because he has the money to fight it. If people think Leung Ting WT is great good for them but look at other Wing Chun too - don't be closed minded. ''When Two Men Are Equal - Flatulence Is King!''.
CloudsBeyond 3 months ago
business kung fu "welcome into the sect"
skiny81 4 months ago
billige werbung
Luigibett 4 months ago
2:03 Comedy Gold !!!!!! "stop there! Whats wrong, I kill you !!!" Hahahahahhahahahahahaha
jbravo41 5 months ago
3:51 goddamn the hulk ?
bannedtweeda 7 months ago
In my country, we have a saying: better to be in people's mouths, than in their legs. Everyone keeps talking sh*t about GM Leung Ting and the WT system, but I doubt all of you Gary Lam / WSL / VT practitioners have even come across EWTO :)
WeakHeadphones 8 months ago
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DieAlphaEnte 9 months ago
WT is great but their publicity is pathetic..
DieAlphaEnte 9 months ago 7
look up hong kong ving tsun association to see if your school is in Yip Man Wing chun lineage. Guess what - Greatgrandmaster Leung Tings school is listed. If you don't know the Hong Kong Ving Tsun association you don't know any abot Wing chun
jomushin7 10 months ago 4
@jomushin7 did u mean VTAA Ving Tsun Athletic Association?? ;)
andrenalin79 1 month ago
there all training fucking special forces bullshite
MrJasonBkn 1 year ago
I know Gary Lam followed WSL / Ip Man trainings, and if you appreciate Gary Lam system, you'd be surprise to see the benefit of WSL/Philipp Bayer training. Hope you'll have a chance to train with PhB one day. Merry Christmas.
djangh0 1 year ago
There was a student who came over to Asia from Germany a really nice guy. He joined the class here and he said that the wing chun he had learned from Leung ting lineage did not do shit against somebody with good forward energy. He said they were quite flashy with the moves but had no forward intent and he had to relearn all of his wing chun.
cornwallgeezer 1 year ago
@cornwallgeezer the guy who came over to asia is called Phillipp Bayer, I met him and he is THE WingChun Master, for sure! Leung ting system is shit and full of weakness. Leung ask you 20 year of your life and almost all your money to learn NOTHING good. Don't loose time with it, Go ahead and learn Won shun Leung system wich is perfectly efficient.
djangh0 1 year ago
@djangh0 Thanks for the information, yeah have been learning Gary lam / wong shun leung system for a while now and it's great. I also studied with ip man's nephew here in taiwan but left after four months because it was not good and I opened my eyes, have a brilliant instructor here, good price and a really friendly class, 'no egos'.
The amount they are charging in Europe is ridiculous!!! Even the real greats of wing chun don't charge that!!!
Merry Christmas and keep practicing.JOHN UK/TAIWAN
cornwallgeezer 1 year ago
@cornwallgeezer . Yeah he is another great teacher, we have a German friend who has come over for studying Chinese and he is currently studying with Philip Bayer!
All of WSL students are good!!
Happy New Year!
cornwallgeezer 1 year ago
DOWNLOAD THE WHOLE WING TSUN SYSTEM AT MMA TORRENTS.
branwt 1 year ago
Who's the guy Leung Ting is talking to at the beginning?
WingChunLova 1 year ago
gaaah i hate the way leung ting teaches !!!
it´s totally commercial and your off money before you can even defend yourself -.-"
and the worst part .... the WT way is full of gabs !! ... probably that´s why you always see bad WT videos which wt-students getting their asses kicked or are aweful representives of their martial art !
schulleee 1 year ago
@schulleee How do you explain Emin Boztepe?
CountVonBrink 1 year ago
@CountVonBrink
most of the time you see him pushing around other students who were taught the same way. it might be that he is one of the most superior ones in the way leung thing teaches... but everything works if you´re gifted enough in doing it lol
and he just is very good.
what i mean there is other wc ways which teach it less complicated and more effective so that you don´t need great skills to be good... and especially they aren´t that expenssive.
i got curious about that system when ..
schulleee 1 year ago
... i found out that me and a member of my WC club, where looking for a new school after just 1 year of training. were superior then 2 other sifus from diffrent WT-schools, in chi-sao etc. because of that certain kind of "mistakes" which are mostly the reason why WT students fail that awefull when it comes to a real fight =P
... and that the common excuses, when they failed, that WT doesn´t work in sparring fights. because of the lethal attacks is bullshit! you can do well without it as well.
schulleee 1 year ago
@schulleee did you ever see Sifu Salih Avci he beat Emin Boztepe on the ground, he invented the wing tsun anti ground fight and up today i haven t seen someone better then him , he was teached by keith kernspecht a deciple of leung ting , both salih and emin where long time friends and sihings until that day in berlin where emin lost on the ground , in 1998 an accident happened in the ewto and sifu salih went out of this org and builded the avci wing tsun shools , how do you think about him ?
GonG108 1 year ago
@GonG108
what he does looks again sooo complicated =( wing chun is supposed to be easy! his way looks like krav maga.... sure it looks all very effective and very spectacular and i am sure that if you´re a well trained guy you can do good with that !
... but i think wing chun gets most effective if you always imagine to be a small, weak woman, doing it cause that´s just what it was made for and i can´t see any small, weak woman fight like that lol
schulleee 1 year ago
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schulleee 1 year ago
@GonG108
i for example am tall and muscular myself and i still prefer fighting like as if i would be a small woman... it just makes it even more effective then =P
example:
i am very nerdy about keeping my back and my shoulders right so every punch is enough to make people fly all over the place (same as in taiji quan)
and usually 1 punch is enough to knock sb out.... but using the 12 sections/ combos and combine them with each other, making a 3 part combination, you can kill sb in 1-2 sec.
schulleee 1 year ago
@sc i am small & it sound familiar my oppon. use to fly away after the first strikes of chain punches , to be frankly i never needed more , in case of sifu salih avci he is legend in germany , i remember when his younger brother 2tch, degree got into trouble with another sifu of the ewto 5 pg and he beat the soul out of him next day he had to leave the ewto , he is still the best skilled fighter i know , he is the only one who has over 600 street fights with multiple op. without loosing even one
GonG108 1 year ago
@sch i think you can learn techn. from what ever shool you want if you dont habe the heart to fight it is useless , salih avci is very small but he beat emin on the ground the german sweat swears on him the day he left the ewto all his deciples went too there was not even one who stayed , i was very lucky to meet such a teacher because far as i know there is no other one i know who has this experience , he invented the ground fight in wt , but to be frankly i don t know WC or the way they fight
GonG108 1 year ago
@GonG108
he really must be good then in the way he does his job :P
... i just don´t get the sense of all those many action like:
take opponents weapon > punchcombination > takedown > kick to the head ... is that all really necessary ? lets take a 3 combo of the 12 sections, which could be:
elbow to the head/ neck (8) > trible chop/ chainpunches to face or throat (5) > then again (8) let´s say this time to the jaw
.... isn´t that already more than enough ? wouldn´t more be just sadism ?
schulleee 1 year ago
@schulleee you have to see that he is trying to teach his system , he is the number one sifu for the german SWAT called SEK and the MEK there you´ll need such techn. maybe , in a normal streetfight with someone without skills in martial arts you are absolutly right , but why not learn it , and as you know if you have done your training well enough you don t have to think about what am i gone to do you just do it , trust your body-intelligence stop thinking and move , this is what he had teach me
GonG108 1 year ago
@GonG108
i definatly should take at look at his school then since i live in germany ! =P
schulleee 1 year ago
@schulleee if you live here and you are near by cologne you should , i personally believe that he is the greatest master of our time in this martial art , i don t know not even one who has such an expierence and has tested everything in reality he had very legendary fights and as a result of this street fights he invented the ground fight techn, he has skilled fighters of all diciplines when i was there i had the luck to train with an european former muay thai champion this is som. you cant pay
GonG108 1 year ago
@schulleee and he is absolutly not interested in money making , when i had trouble to pay him he just said save your money and send me some if you can pay thats it never lost a word about it, ppl who go there can check the shool for a very long time they will not come to you and ask you , you have to ask , he is absolutly the opposite of everything i have seen or heared in this scene , and as i said who knows him is loves him
GonG108 1 year ago
@schulleee but i don t know if you are luky enough to meet with him , he travels arround the world and is training all kinds of special forces , the times have changed he got very famous in the 90´s when i started we where very lucky because he was up to 3 -4 times a week there and you could train with him today you have to train with the si hings there but if you stay long enough and work hard enough he will recognize you for sure .
GonG108 1 year ago
big shit ...
yiyi3000 1 year ago
I think Moy Yat Ving Tsun is much closer to what Ip Man taught than any other system and that this fact makes it more effective.
Mottahead 1 year ago
leung ting perfected the wing chun system..wing tsun is the only form of wing chun which could be applied on the street..forget the traditional wing chun.
ghettoaga 1 year ago
Leung Ting's doctorate is in marketing, I think.
DizzyDerwish 1 year ago
I wonder if Leung Thug is going to wear da same pajama going to da slammer for violence against women?
mofotox 1 year ago
@mofotox
Maybe...
...but I bet he won't get much restful sleep!
mofotax 1 year ago
@mofotox
would you mind to detail that ? Never heard of such accusations. Thank you.
Sikukkukt 1 year ago
@mofotox that was all crap.....and the conviction was overturned by an appeals court...
SeanT210 1 year ago
@SeanT210 :That does not change the fact he cheated on his old hack wife, knocked up and beat up his ho with his Leung Thug Wing Tsun Thug Sao. Nor it will change that fact that he is a scum sucking low life. O.J. killed two people and he is free too! It does not meant he did not do it!
mofotox 1 year ago
@mofotox if your gonna repeat the story, repeat it right...She even admitted she tried to jump an he grabbed her...It was nothing more then political bullshyt..for you to compare Grand Master Leung Ting to OJ shows me how little you truly know
SeanT210 1 year ago
@SeanT210 How did she manage to beat heself up on both the front & back sides of her body?
He is a little weasal - always has been, always will be!
mofotax 1 year ago
@mofotax really, she was beat up....once again, get the correct version of the story before you run your mouth....
SeanT210 1 year ago