Thanks for this review Linus. I've had problems getting a good signal in my bedroom but after reading some reviews on Amazon I think the DIR 645 will solve the issue. Thanks again.
Theres alot more to comparing routers then just signal strength. Higher connections rates = higher spartial streams = lower signal levels. Also there are different compatibilities between your tablet's wireless antenna and the wireless signal on the 1st and 2nd layers. Just Google the Intel N adapter issues and you will see what I mean. I know it wasn't meant as scientific though, so still thumbs up. I was a fan of the DGL-4300 until I moved to dd-wrt.
interesting how signal strength does not always mean the best data rate of transfer so a G router could have high signal strength as compared to a N router have a lower signal strength but the N despite having the lower signal strength would still be faster a pushing the data wireless
the wealth of this information is gratifying as I would never be able to afford to purchase and test all the variety of routers you provide in this video. thank you Linus :)
The thing is that those newer router doesn't drop when u have multiple devices. I used to have a netgears just like that one, but the thing here is that i have like 10 wireless devices in my house and whenever i connect my laptop to the network my bro laptop losed it network:( then i went to costco and bought a new router dual band, it actually solve the problem, so if u r using only one device i think it will give u the same speed unless u have like 20-54mb/s internet plan then u will see diff.
Excellent work! Note: 5ghz give you less distance.
Wireless technology hasn't changed much. The only true way to get more distance is MORE POWER but the law limits that. You don't want to blast that much power in your home, its not too healthy. Remember cordless home phones? 900mhz, then 1ghz, then 2.4, and now 5ghz!! It was only a small improvement each time. In the end you just stayed near the base.
Solution: Lay one cable and have 2 wireless access points in the house.
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..In todays market the 5gen airport extreme out performs many of your favorite brands. Hell, i still have the 2nd gen airport extreme and im using it as a range extender(no 3rd party software required) and its still getting firmware updates after what...4 years since its been released, cant say that about the other guys.
Linus, do you think the orientation of the router helped as well? I would be interested in how the Newer Netgear N900/WNDR4500 fares in this comparison as well compared to the others since it sits up vertically compared to the Cisco E4200 router.
Linux, I have a D-link DIr-2350-0-9846 with a dual band bank. I have a small dog that runs a lot in the back yard. My neighbors play loud music at night. My computer has 2 gig memory. I once owned a 386 computer when I was a kid. My wife yells at me a lot. Linux what router would you recommend for my room?
So, I'm in a condo and my Router is in my kitchen on top of the cupboards, My main computer is in the master bedroom which is in the next room... although the computer is just on the other side of the wall... my PS3 is in the same master bedroom... my Xbox360 is in the living room about 15 ft. away, My Laptop is setup in the dining room about 7 ft. away... and I use my Iphone and Tablet through out the condo... Which Router would you recommend for the best over all connection?
shouldve have a netgear wndr4500 n900 in that line up. at only $20-$30 more its suppose to give a much better range with six internal antennas. I set one up recently for a friend but wasn't able to test out its user feasible range.
the point of multiple antennas is for MIMO (multiple input multiple output) which is a way of increasing data speeds in wireless networks it has nothing to do with increasing there range. also i believe its normal for 5ghz bands to have a shorter range than 2.4ghz bands although they do have a better bit rate. i personally have a netgear n750 dual band and it outperforms any other router i have ever used.
@krayziebone808 That would be an interesting variable to investigate. I would guess it would perform poorly though taking into account my experience with Apple airport
he said the dlink 645 is bad for like condos what about if i live in a regular neighborhood with houses around me is it cool? or is that to many people
he said the dlink 645 is bad for like condos what about if i live in a regular neighborhood with houses around me is it cool? or is that to many people
he said the dlink 645 is bad for like condos what about if i live in a regular neighborhood with houses around me is it cool? or is that to many people
lol your brother will be all like "dude hows the wireless down here?" and you'll be like "its a million times worse" and he'll be all like rofl and you'll be like "no really"
Very fair and informative review on wireless routers. Good job Mr. Linus. One thing I wouldn't do but Linus does is that he takes his expensive electronic equipment out in the rain and snow. He and his camera man must be crazy to put tier equipment in harms way or they have big bucks available to replace there equipment. Furthermore I see that they like to work at night. Family time of the day. Wonder if Linus have children? If he does he talks more about his cats than is kids.
You should have had them on the table the whole time. I have E4200 and for a week I had it under my desk getting horrible range and speed. Put it on my desk and got range of about 200+ Feet and about a 25Mbps connect speed there.
Thanks for the information. I am looking for a dual band (Asus RT N56U, so far) router to replace my aging Linksys WRT54GL. Again, thanks for your analysis.
@ZzAnthonyProductions He's married to a woman. You can see his engagement photos online (that involve them kissing each other as well as walking their cats.)
D-Link has 3 antenna routers to, why not to try also Xtreme N Router and Xtreme N Gaming Router? In addition trying at least one 3rd party antenna and seeing is it worth it.
those wireless g netgears are awesome. i have one that has been going 24-7 for almost three years and it hasnt dropped performance once. the problem with them is that if you are pulling multiple signals with a lot of information your modem might switch channels and the router doesnt follow the modem so you loose connection.
Thanks for your hardwork comparing these devices but please work on the camera focus (zoom) and the lighting. I could hardly see what was on that notebook :(
Hey Linus! For a decible in home representation of the signal booster install it in your home and show the changes to the garage signal and back shed signal.
linus, you should think about maybe installing dd-wrt or tomato firmwares on some of these routers and then trying again, i seemed to get dramatically more stable performance once i install these on routers.
Best bet is to get a couple of routers and to set them up in repeating mode.
ChiefLeftenant 1 week ago
All that wireless radiation. How your are not trying to have kids, when you were testing all of this.
ChiefLeftenant 1 week ago
"Unless it's beautifully rendered DX11 outdoors..." Lmao 7:34
jeff77789 1 month ago 5
whats the name of the program used in the video on the tablets?
yofadagun 1 month ago
scooby doo where are you?
ArtificialParanoia 1 month ago
thank you for the empirical conversion linus!
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Thanks for this review Linus. I've had problems getting a good signal in my bedroom but after reading some reviews on Amazon I think the DIR 645 will solve the issue. Thanks again.
slversrfr99 1 month ago
Rinus Rech Rips LOL :D
SolidState5 1 month ago 4
I see scooby was in charge of naming this video....
Sicknophoria 2 months ago 15
typo on title
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FirstPersonShooter Linus. :D
Win7Fan 2 months ago
What program are you using on the iPad to see signal strength?
NiceGuyHuy 2 months ago
@NiceGuyHuy WiFi analyser
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@NiceGuyHuy That's not an iPad. It's an Android tablet with WiFi analyser.
MrAGoodName 2 months ago
Theres alot more to comparing routers then just signal strength. Higher connections rates = higher spartial streams = lower signal levels. Also there are different compatibilities between your tablet's wireless antenna and the wireless signal on the 1st and 2nd layers. Just Google the Intel N adapter issues and you will see what I mean. I know it wasn't meant as scientific though, so still thumbs up. I was a fan of the DGL-4300 until I moved to dd-wrt.
TheRealTrikein 2 months ago
interesting how signal strength does not always mean the best data rate of transfer so a G router could have high signal strength as compared to a N router have a lower signal strength but the N despite having the lower signal strength would still be faster a pushing the data wireless
greysmoke321 2 months ago
the wealth of this information is gratifying as I would never be able to afford to purchase and test all the variety of routers you provide in this video. thank you Linus :)
greysmoke321 2 months ago
great video, as is very comprehensive with the tablet and readings of the wireless internet signal strength
greysmoke321 2 months ago
Awesome video Linus!!!!!!
Leep1221 2 months ago
so which one of these do you personally use?
ofr57 2 months ago
man ur views are best good and go on.....
haroon3133 2 months ago
I get around -75 from my neighbor behind me when I bridge to their network, using Linksys WRT54G
MohoFlaggins 2 months ago
The thing is that those newer router doesn't drop when u have multiple devices. I used to have a netgears just like that one, but the thing here is that i have like 10 wireless devices in my house and whenever i connect my laptop to the network my bro laptop losed it network:( then i went to costco and bought a new router dual band, it actually solve the problem, so if u r using only one device i think it will give u the same speed unless u have like 20-54mb/s internet plan then u will see diff.
V1p101 2 months ago
What is the app you used ?
thegcpu 2 months ago
Excellent work! Note: 5ghz give you less distance.
Wireless technology hasn't changed much. The only true way to get more distance is MORE POWER but the law limits that. You don't want to blast that much power in your home, its not too healthy. Remember cordless home phones? 900mhz, then 1ghz, then 2.4, and now 5ghz!! It was only a small improvement each time. In the end you just stayed near the base.
Solution: Lay one cable and have 2 wireless access points in the house.
snaxs2000 2 months ago
Damn! Nice house! NCIX is treating you well.
Scud291 2 months ago 14
Water cooling part 2?
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TheENofficial 2 months ago
Goddamn this video, now I want a new router. The DIR 645 looks promising.
AlumarsX 2 months ago
"Minus 40, to minus 400"
Hmm...
"From Linus 40, to Linus 400"
TRAUMAeagle 2 months ago
45feet! I am the american in the audience!
DrSpike666 2 months ago
@samw9345
I advise you to take a second look
..In todays market the 5gen airport extreme out performs many of your favorite brands. Hell, i still have the 2nd gen airport extreme and im using it as a range extender(no 3rd party software required) and its still getting firmware updates after what...4 years since its been released, cant say that about the other guys.
krayziebone808 2 months ago
Socks 'n' Sandals!
TheRubberJony 2 months ago
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TheRubberJony 2 months ago
That cool!!!!!
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haha Rinus Rech Rips ... thats why i love you :DD
Opfrkind 2 months ago
Why always the same brands? What about TP-Link?
BlackHatchl 2 months ago
lmao Rinus Rech Rips!!!
AsianPerson3 2 months ago
Linus, do you think the orientation of the router helped as well? I would be interested in how the Newer Netgear N900/WNDR4500 fares in this comparison as well compared to the others since it sits up vertically compared to the Cisco E4200 router.
fishanderson 2 months ago
Linux, I have a D-link DIr-2350-0-9846 with a dual band bank. I have a small dog that runs a lot in the back yard. My neighbors play loud music at night. My computer has 2 gig memory. I once owned a 386 computer when I was a kid. My wife yells at me a lot. Linux what router would you recommend for my room?
ClawSpike 2 months ago
Rinus Rech Rips? Rearry?
54carlje 2 months ago
whats the app called ?
MrCGangsta 2 months ago
Any thoughts on apples air port router ?
tankbmx 2 months ago
linus what apps are you using... i like the wifi meter thing
subzerized 2 months ago
what's the name of the app your using ??
EYEoftheLC 2 months ago
So, I'm in a condo and my Router is in my kitchen on top of the cupboards, My main computer is in the master bedroom which is in the next room... although the computer is just on the other side of the wall... my PS3 is in the same master bedroom... my Xbox360 is in the living room about 15 ft. away, My Laptop is setup in the dining room about 7 ft. away... and I use my Iphone and Tablet through out the condo... Which Router would you recommend for the best over all connection?
Riddlemind 2 months ago
Sad when you have the "old" router he is talking about. :D
dexter2323123 2 months ago
yes in general telecommunication higher frequency means shorter range
ningjia416 2 months ago
What app was he using?
Yamswool 2 months ago
Hey linus, What is the different between D-Link DIR-645 and the D-Link DAP-1525?
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seem like the D-Link DAP-1525 is $40 more expensive than the D-Link DIR-645.
fujiwaraya 2 months ago
You should also test an TP-Link TL-WR1043ND and put dd-wrt firmware on it.
Just for testing.
theionutzradu 2 months ago
Dude, what happened to your hand?
Yamswool 2 months ago
So when DLink provides their dual-band model - it would seem to be the no-brainer choice =)
StraightShooter01 2 months ago
So in short the D-Link is the best for any modern household?
Sheezytaughtme 2 months ago
What happened to your hand? Did Crazy Russian whack you with a badminton racket?
vwestlife 2 months ago 2
shouldve have a netgear wndr4500 n900 in that line up. at only $20-$30 more its suppose to give a much better range with six internal antennas. I set one up recently for a friend but wasn't able to test out its user feasible range.
rfizzle 2 months ago
the point of multiple antennas is for MIMO (multiple input multiple output) which is a way of increasing data speeds in wireless networks it has nothing to do with increasing there range. also i believe its normal for 5ghz bands to have a shorter range than 2.4ghz bands although they do have a better bit rate. i personally have a netgear n750 dual band and it outperforms any other router i have ever used.
austinXDFtw 2 months ago
Add an apple router(450mbps)...n it will blow all those away.
.....just saying.
krayziebone808 2 months ago
@krayziebone808 lolno
hammuhr 2 months ago
@krayziebone808 That would be an interesting variable to investigate. I would guess it would perform poorly though taking into account my experience with Apple airport
samw9345 2 months ago
I think Linus just got cancer from making this video
phallus36 2 months ago
and stuff
REMIREZZ 2 months ago
Slink FTP
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he said the dlink 645 is bad for like condos what about if i live in a regular neighborhood with houses around me is it cool? or is that to many people
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he said the dlink 645 is bad for like condos what about if i live in a regular neighborhood with houses around me is it cool? or is that to many people
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he said the dlink 645 is bad for like condos what about if i live in a regular neighborhood with houses around me is it cool? or is that to many people
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that corner is not even half as messed up with cables as the back of my computer desk....
mass3gf 2 months ago
I just have a Cisco M20 and it works the whole house lol!
TheAppleRock 2 months ago
Rinus Rech Rips....nice :D
Kratoskp 2 months ago
@Kratoskp Sinus Sex Sips.... :D
motomado540 2 months ago
thAnks for the awesome video! :D
GovGoose 2 months ago
Thanks big time for doing this!
Azzagard 2 months ago
holly crap you play badminton? nano 95 string...very powerful
pntang408 2 months ago
thanks to Linus ........please whenever you can say hi to marcelo down in yucatan peninsula mexico....
marcelocoronado 2 months ago
Oh Linus, that's your bed huh? That is where I will make sweet love to you.
soupkin 2 months ago
it will explode...
Typhoon2Spirit 2 months ago
wats the TLDR version?!
TheDjWMD 2 months ago
Rinus Rech Rips
DethMasheen69 2 months ago
YAY DirectX11 Outdoors :D
0oDarkLordRevano0 2 months ago 26
I read: RANGECEPTION!!!!
rickschravendeel 2 months ago
@rickschravendeel RANGERECPTION!!
williamho88 2 months ago
LinusRulesTips!
123chorry 2 months ago 6
Lucky Ncix have Linus. His loyalty to his job is phenomenal. He is really overclocking himself.
omarfw79 2 months ago 2
Rinus Rech Rips lol
fastskynet 2 months ago
rrrrrrrr
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Thumbs up for socks and sandals
unokilo321 2 months ago
OMG !!!! I LOVE YOUR SHIRT!!!!! LMAO!!!!
you're killing me Linus!
0Myles0 2 months ago
You went in the rain. *LIKE*
MrMVPAssassin 2 months ago 59
lol at the title XD
Slashdog7 2 months ago
You must find out which routers those neighbors are using ;)
54carlje 2 months ago
wut tablet is tht?
stephenmills1 2 months ago
@stephenmills1 Asus Transformer Prime...aka the quad core goodness
Luger718A1 2 months ago
Rinus Rech Rips? So Linus's Asian side finally decides to come out...
Foobeenz 2 months ago
Linus, you're the best. Appreciate such in-depth stuff a lot. Thanks for doing these \m/
szabiakanich 2 months ago
lol your brother will be all like "dude hows the wireless down here?" and you'll be like "its a million times worse" and he'll be all like rofl and you'll be like "no really"
Venoml0rdz 2 months ago 3
i wonder when you guys are going to do a revised ati hd 3d using a displayport
Niqbal87 2 months ago
Nice alliteration.
bnShadow13 2 months ago
RRRRRRRRR...
racenuke 2 months ago
wndr3700 ftw. that is all
chronofusion 2 months ago
D-Link DIR 645 For the win!
PersianPrideTime 2 months ago
Very fair and informative review on wireless routers. Good job Mr. Linus. One thing I wouldn't do but Linus does is that he takes his expensive electronic equipment out in the rain and snow. He and his camera man must be crazy to put tier equipment in harms way or they have big bucks available to replace there equipment. Furthermore I see that they like to work at night. Family time of the day. Wonder if Linus have children? If he does he talks more about his cats than is kids.
mswsus 2 months ago
You should have had them on the table the whole time. I have E4200 and for a week I had it under my desk getting horrible range and speed. Put it on my desk and got range of about 200+ Feet and about a 25Mbps connect speed there.
ryan9298b2 2 months ago
RATER ROOLING PART 2RR T_T
lalalaa1232 2 months ago
I think you mean lower numbers are worse, not higher.
LifeOfASmiley 2 months ago
What's the best router (that has the best range) for use in Europe?
doktor2007 2 months ago
Thanks for the information. I am looking for a dual band (Asus RT N56U, so far) router to replace my aging Linksys WRT54GL. Again, thanks for your analysis.
wingzofsteel 2 months ago
Raining eh? Perhaps that's a sign for you to stay inside and film watercooling pt. 2!
sacleocheaterz 2 months ago
idc if hes gay
ZzAnthonyProductions 2 months ago
he is married or dating a girl
XxWolfpack247xX 2 months ago
@XxWolfpack247xX Married
MrMVPAssassin 2 months ago
Is linus gay or does he have a wife. Cause gay marriage is allowed in CA
ZzAnthonyProductions 2 months ago
@ZzAnthonyProductions He's married to a woman. You can see his engagement photos online (that involve them kissing each other as well as walking their cats.)
TheAllthatremains94 2 months ago
Just Loving Linus's Dedication!
Huge effort from Linus & is providing us with really useful information!
Keep it up Linus!
umarsharif3512 2 months ago 66
Can I do over clocking at intel core i7
matanchen6688 2 months ago
FRITZBOX for the win.
marino4691 2 months ago
Keep the kitties away from all of these routers. It's safe for our body mass (humans), but I'd be worried about animals.
mysticode 2 months ago
Cisco's High End Consumer Wireless Router is the E4200 V2
npham1198 2 months ago
i liked this video, not because of those data u gave... its because of the effort you put to make this video..
ankanbads 2 months ago
rinus? mauybe rhinus
XsAviR 2 months ago
Could be wrong, but isn't is -20dB/decade, so per 20 dB it is a 10x difference?
MG2R 2 months ago
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onesound69 2 months ago
Cisco routers suck !
HardBaseUnderMySkin 2 months ago
linus swearing alot haha i like it
matawin2 2 months ago
are you mocking kim jong il's death? lol what's up with asian title spelling?
HLM190586 2 months ago
@HLM190586 Asian spelling? Wow, don't you know what alliteration is? Linus was just continuing the pattern of 'R's.
TMPGames 2 months ago
O.o Linus, your laptop has a LOT of stickers on it!
misternumberuno 2 months ago
I want this app you have on your tablet please!
evsidewinder2 2 months ago
@evsidewinder2 The name of it?
evsidewinder2 2 months ago
when comes watercooling part 2?
egbertownt 2 months ago
R's...I see what you did there~
TimmyFoxyeh 2 months ago
plz plz plz wear that helm in a vid please
gentel916 2 months ago
why dont you do all this tests in the day with no snowing and raining?
Goliath002 2 months ago
@Goliath002 gives it worse case senario
Hellstorm616 2 months ago
Ri Runt Rore Rinus Rech Rips
HennesseyHPE1000 2 months ago
Whats that app called, Can you get it for iphone.. because i got a lot of bloody wireless networks around me :(
geksii 2 months ago
@geksii WiFi Analyzer
youdontfeelthepain 2 months ago
Can I come live in your shed?
Luke123098 2 months ago
kim jong-il isnt dead, he has emigrated to canada and is administering linus' youtube channel
jakehall331 2 months ago
Lesson learnt: Never upgrade your router
supersayianz 2 months ago
Rinus Rech Rips, i are chinese!
blackbirdflight 2 months ago
Did Scooby-Doo do the title?
GAMESaROCKN 2 months ago
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email4rudy 2 months ago
You have this? Dual 6.0GB NVIDIA® Quadro® 6000? show me some gameplay with this card ;p
PoKeR123484 2 months ago
@PoKeR123484 isn't that the like 1.5k card? if so,it isn't made for gaming, but literally making the game...
if you wanted the best gaming card, go for a GTX 590 or Radeon 6990
SilverStreamGaming 2 months ago
@SilverStreamGaming Ow ok, its around 6-12 thousand dollars.
PoKeR123484 2 months ago
Lots of cords in that onward corner,crazy.
alonsomluna 2 months ago
D-Link has 3 antenna routers to, why not to try also Xtreme N Router and Xtreme N Gaming Router? In addition trying at least one 3rd party antenna and seeing is it worth it.
ignas2526 2 months ago
I LOVE NETGEAR!!!
computergeekguy 2 months ago
how about TINUS TECH TIPS?
midcoregamer 2 months ago
@midcoregamer or LINUS LECH LIPS or NINUS NECH NIPS XD
jackgalloway256 2 months ago
At the end of the day though in what we would come down is that is you get married you'll get GAME OVER!
OceanSky159 2 months ago
Is that a Motorola Xoom you're using?
Drum41NAB 2 months ago
6:36 wtf random helmet?
MrPandawesome 2 months ago
so basically.. stick with ur old cheap router cuz it works the best :D
Delus1on77 2 months ago
those wireless g netgears are awesome. i have one that has been going 24-7 for almost three years and it hasnt dropped performance once. the problem with them is that if you are pulling multiple signals with a lot of information your modem might switch channels and the router doesnt follow the modem so you loose connection.
fataxe1 2 months ago
Dude litle mistace in name Rinus(Linus) xD
surviveasl 2 months ago
@surviveasl No, it wasn't a mistake. Take another look at the title.
Drum41NAB 2 months ago
Socks+sandal will always be Linus favourite
SkipperEnforcer95 2 months ago
does he get to keep all the stuff he gets for reviews??
TedPark1025 2 months ago
you hurt my brain when you claim that higher numbers are worse..
0 is higher than -100
(0>-100)
-40 is higher than -85
(-40>-85)
this is simple math...
pippaengroda 2 months ago 16
@pippaengroda did he say higher value? he said higher number. obviously 100 is greater than 0. stupid...
vlad1500 2 months ago
@pippaengroda Just go with it.
MadLittleMods 2 months ago
Oh!, a new twist, RINUS Rech Rips!
Fekillix 2 months ago 47
@Fekillix Linus Lech Lips?
Bloodraven216 2 months ago
wow..there is 9 R..what the ruck!
SkipperEnforcer95 2 months ago
Thanks for your hardwork comparing these devices but please work on the camera focus (zoom) and the lighting. I could hardly see what was on that notebook :(
SAI724 2 months ago
i first read LinusRapeTips o.O
sokrutu 2 months ago
Hey Linus! For a decible in home representation of the signal booster install it in your home and show the changes to the garage signal and back shed signal.
SirDoogle87 2 months ago
So do you think he has millions of dollars or billions of dollars?
ploke25 2 months ago
@ploke25 I think he has trillions.
wwyk1993 2 months ago
linus, you should think about maybe installing dd-wrt or tomato firmwares on some of these routers and then trying again, i seemed to get dramatically more stable performance once i install these on routers.
sageosaka 2 months ago
higher number are worse? wtf
trankhanhvinhan 2 months ago
Rinus Rech Rips FTW
misel141994 2 months ago
LINUS WHNE U WILL UNBOX OCZ RevoDrive Hybrid 1TB PCI-Express SSD/HDD ?
madina690 2 months ago