Am I the only one who seriously likes to say the explanation in my fantasy stories that the Soul develops with and in synchrony to the body so the partially formed bodies/souls split or fuse depending on whether or not it's twins or a chimera? I always liked that explanation for my stories. Then again it's all bullshit, but I've never seen anyone say that.
You have to understand that it changes forms. It doesn't "happen" there is no particular phase of life in which a soul "began". It entered a physical body that began, and will leave a physical body that ends. I'm sure even you have had the deja vu moments, where you suddenly remember something vividly, that you know you did not do at all in your life, your current life anyway. The soul is eternal, means it has always been, like matter and energy never created nor destroyed; it changes forms
@KingHeathen Why do you scoff? You posted a video. You wanted responses. Are you that arrogant? I had no idea that deja vu offended you that much. If you play with matches you can get burned my friend.
@KingHeathen It's ONE of my arguments. I can go on a lot longer if you have the guts to put your money where your mouth is and have DISCUSSION. But you seem to just be close minded, per the many other comments I have seen on this page. This video looks to be more of a fit of pique towards the mere notion of anything spiritual.
@chernobleman It's not a good one. I'd suggest dropping it. I attempted to discuss this with you on something that has some real substance and your answer was that you didn't know. Is there any part of this video where I presented an argument that you CAN answer? But don't use unsubstantiated supernatural claims that you can't support with evidence.
@KingHeathen Yes, but that was only one question, and on the opposite end, I am not exactly sure when the soul leaves the body in death, and I don't think you do either. Regardless of what is true, we will all learn for ourselves firsthand some day. You asked many more questions in this video that are very interesting, that I do have some answers to.
@chernobleman I don't believe anything such as a "soul" exists...so I don't think that it "leaves" at all since it is never there! So we've got 2 questions you can't answer...a ridiculous assertion about deja vu...I'm DYING to hear these answers you claim to have. (Remember, back it up with evidence.)
@KingHeathen I am just as likely to find hard evidence on this as you are on your assumption that it doesn't exist. Your video is asking a philosophical question, and I am providing a philosophical answer. Science is merely what we know we can understand, and philosophy, what we can't. If you want some evidence, at least an eye-witness account, you should look up Pam Reynolds and her NDE.
@chernobleman Would you agree that you can't be an "eyewitness" to your own story? Next, NDE's has been more thoroughly debunked than deja vu. We KNOW what causes NDE's and it's NOT the existence of a soul but rather the existence of hallucinogenic chemicals in our own brains that kick in at the time of high stress and physical pain. Look into it. It's fascinating stuff.
@KingHeathen Like I said, you really can't be an "eyewitness" to your account that a soul does not exist, either. This is because the subject mattter at hand is purely philosophical. What makes Pam Reynold's near death experience so compelling is that she had NO brain activity, NO pulse, NO breathing, NO blood in her head, for a WHOLE HOUR, and she was able to tell the doctors what kind of tool he was using, and even recalled a nurses statement during the operation...
@KingHeathen ... and since it was later confirmed by the medical staff in the operation to be true, that would have to be one hell of a coincidence for a "hallucination".
@KingHeathen It's cited in the book "Light and Death" by Dr. Michael Sabom, a cardiologist in Georgia who has thoroughly reviewed Pam Reynolds' case, and MANY OTHERS.
@chernobleman Dr Sabom is a CARDIOLOGIST and NOT QUALIFIED to speak on neurology. But you didn't answer my question...where is Dr. Sabom's MEDICAL JOURNAL...you know, one of those things that will get peer reviewed for accuracy?
I did a quick search and found MANY people dissecting his fallacious claims. Peer review FTW!
It's a very powerful question. Does the soul exist? Certainly the brain waves, the neurons, the synapses, nerves all exist. We understand how we got here through the progressive biological means of evolution, meiosis and mitosis, but we also have to understand that man is a philosophical animal. The question of does a soul exist is a question of why are we here; it delves into a styfling realm of thought that often stumps the limitations of the human brain, like comprehending being nothing.
For me, the concept of a soul is simply a figure of speech conveying the idea of a personality in a living being. That's it. I don't believe in a ghostly internal entity that lives on after death. I also am not a believer in god(s) either.
The whole concept doesn't make sense you are the thing or your not you don't have a separate part which is the soul but i think its just a concept nothing more until proven fact.
@DickKnowsBest He believes in a soul all right the only difference is that he say that is a product of natural selection. Try this video: Daniel Dennett -The Genius of Charles Darwin:The Uncut Interviews: Dawkings say at 4:00: "a soul can emerge from soulless neurons ".That is theology at it's worst. They have been pulling clueless people's legs off all alone into a new religion. Our soul is real and so is God, science is just trying to understand what we know in our hearts is very real.GodBless
@DickKnowsBest Proof does not work this way. We don't believe things until you can prove them wrong, we are supposed to disbelieve something until it is proven to exist.
@westfalla The accepted knowledge always stands until the new knowledge is proven. In the 16 century Galileo had to prove the heliocentric theory vs the geocentric dogma of the time. He didn’t said:“you are all wrong, prove the geocentric theory is right”. He found the data and presented it. Atheists’ statement is far off scale compare to Galileo’s, hence the burden of proof is on you. Might be silly to prove a negative, but if 80% of the people believe this negative, you just have to. God Bless
@dejesusluisx That isn't how it works either, it's close but not quite. The problem is that you are asserting that I'm making a positive claim, which I'm not; I'm making a negative claim which can only be proven false. In fact, it would be impossible to make a positive claim regarding anything with as many definitions as God. The problem is that even if I did prove the negative, you could use another definition. Regardless, you have a positive claim to prove. Also, check your stats, they're off.
Aristotle defined the soul as one’s essence. Our essence is to love one another. Therefore our soul is love. God is also love; that is our eternal connection. Want to know where the soul resides?, find where your love resides. The soul is pure love energy, as energy it will not disappear after you die; it will go back to his source, if you wish. Dennett and Dawkins both believe in the soul, they just don’t believe it goes to heaven.The Bible isn't the only source, that's why you're lost.GodBless
cmon dude anybody who has taken remedial philosophy knows that simply the fact that you cant prove that something exists doesnt mean it doesnt....im not a christian but the whole line of thinking that leads to atheism confounds me, if u truly believe that there is nothing other than this life and you wont be punished for your actions later on then there is nothing stopping me from killing you right now...you as a person have no significance what so ever and that is something i do not understand
@Overkill303 Never claimed that it did. But there IS something stopping you from killing me now...the society which rejects such actions and my own will to live. You clearly missed the point of the video.
@KingHeathen hey kingheathen I dare you to prove to me the dark side of the moon exists. So you, not a picture, because that can be fake. Also prove a country called China exists! Nothing can be proved!
Anyway it IS a good idea of you to make these videos
@Overkill303 Not all atheists disbelieve in an afterlife. Anyone that thought about the philosophy class they just took knows that you can't go around believing anything that you haven't proven to exist. The rest just shows that you're a horrible person.
i always question about that,just like people say animals dont have a soul...bs....but the question to believing in a soul....how about the cases of either a accident that causes brain damage...or a person who gets alzheimer's ...the mind is wiped and most time the person forgets who anyone they knew or even who they are?so how could a person be responsible for their actions or have a soul,if their a whole different person?
I think a soul is merely a human construct that self conscious brain matter uses to quantify the part of itself that it previously could not (before the field of neuroscience was ever explored), and still cannot quite explain. It is not quantifiable, or manifested in any way, shape or form, it is not immortal, and it basically comes down to superstitious and ignorant life forms trying (and failing) to contemplate themselves.
Do you agree with the EVP's that we have now about the afterlife existence? There are actually a lot of evidence, can you please verify why you do not agree with some of them?
@Xennia2493 Way too much to put here, but in a nutshell, it's confirmation bias based on the mind's natural instinct to try to find patterns in the noise. Give the same tracks to people of different languages and they will hear different things that are within their OWN languages. In essence, you hear what you want to hear. Same thing the idiots in the 80's did when they played records backwards for "satanic messages"
@KingHeathen to add further to this, scientists have found that there is actually VERY FAINT electricity in the human body, and when you die the electricity has to go somewhere, so what happens to electricity usually? it goes downward generally, I can't think of a time where it goes up. But the point is even if there is ghosts, they certainly are not our souls left behind. And Yeah EVP's are a bunch of crap so is this new thing they got called a "ghost box" but there is always science behind it.
King Heathen this is a Non-Rational question you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a soul. It comes down to your own thought and belief because it is a personal thing it’s not a universal statement. But you also bring up your personal opinion because you specifically call it “your thoughts on a soul are as real as your god” which leads down into belief and nothing more.
what's control your first thought / what's control your will/ what's control your brain to think about something? is it nature? then if a men killing other men is it always because of nature? and you making this video is because of nature too? and who's making the law of nature? is it happen accidentaly? i prefer say i don't know at all, but in practical of life, it really help to belief in soul existence (for me).
@potchonk ignoring your horrible grammar (i take it English isn't your first language)...NO ONE is the answer to "who".
Whose fault is it to why lions kill antelopes? is there a "why" or is it simply that one must survive and this is how they do it? It's not an "accident" but simply the "outcome."
Do you ever personally find it acceptable to say that you just don't know? Merely having a strong opinion is not likely to be solid proof of your understanding. I think people are lead closer to the path of truth when they can accept that some things are currently beyond their understanding. Coming to the conclusion that the best answer one can conceive must be the correct answer seems a bit arrogant. Need proof? Once upon a time, scientists believed the world was flat.
@embalyst The answer to your first question is "Yes." However, in THIS circumstance...we DO know. Meanwhile, the religious still DON'T yet claim that THEY do...without evidence.
@KingHeathen Did I miss the part in the video where you proved that we DO know that the soul doesn't exist? You posed some questions, but I don't remember any proof. Did you get your proof from somewhere else which you didn't mention?
@embalyst I got my proof (and discussed it in the video) from NEUROLOGY. There was also some pretty definitive things that are strongly suggested through embryology as it pertains to neurology. The mind is DEPENDENT on the brain. Damage the brain, you damage the mind. Without a brain, there is no mind. Ergo...the mind isn't separate from the brain and therefore there can not be a "soul" as is traditional described.
Also from what I researched 9 out of 10 of people who came back to life through AED's and all those things that restart the heart say they experienced the same thing, I just think religion is judging everything and it is all bullshit but I believe it is highly likely that a soul does exist due to the fact science had yet to understand it completely but we are getting there, afterall we only know 5% out of 100 of the universe, maybe out souls goes out there causing space to expand XP theory again
@Xennia2493 First off, I appreciate the detailed explanation of your opinion...However, people experience very DIFFERENT things when near death as a result of their mind inducing a hallucination. Neurology understands this phenomena QUITE well. Some will be very similar, but vary greatly in different cultures. If you think you'll see a white light...you probably will. Same for anything else you believe.
Also, energy is converted to matter and vice versa. Our energy comes from food we eat.
@KingHeathen So if we believe we will go somewhere that we like when we die our brain will grant us that.....cool 8D lol and if we believe nothing will happen when we die then that will basically happen...hmmmm damn, also that does not really explain EVP's and from what I researched from victor zammit's website he goes by scientific method proving there is life after death says our energy goes into a wavelength that we yet discovered. Once again this is theory XP I am just throwing outhypothesis
@Xennia2493 Close...if you believe that you will see a bright light, your brain will hallucinate one in the same way that if you think loved ones will greet you then they will...but, once your brain stops functioning, the hallucination is OVER! You don't "go" anywhere...you just imagined it. Thought is the function of a brain...no brain activity...no thought.
@KingHeathen Eh you never know XP I mean that still does not explain EVP's or other ghost evidence we have received from science, science has disproved religion but not what happens after death for it is all theory since no one came back from complete death so nobody will ever know until it happens so there may be hope XP maybe there is a soul but in a unknown wavelength we have not discovered yet, eh that is my theory, I am just saying never judge everything from what you believe XP
@KingHeathen Because judging something based off what people thinks is correct or what seems true but never rule out the possibility of possibly being wrong is kind of foolish, sure science says without brain there is no thought or anything in that matter, but science from what I researched also says the proof of afterlife is there but cannot be explained, science disproves religion but cannot disprove the idea of life after death due to evidence such as EVP's or etc.
@Xennia2493 Ghost evidence? What "ghost evidence" do you have? Random sounds that you assume are voices? Ever played a record backwards? (Of course not, you have probably never played one forward based on your age.) Again, this is a VERY well understood and documented phenomenon. You still have much to learn. Keep digging, you seem smart enough that you'll eventually figure it out.
@KingHeathen I used to be a nihilist, I used to say who cares we are all going to die anyways, I used to say there is no point we just create it in this temporary life illusion, and now I am on antidepressants, have panic disorder, ocd, and ptsd just because I do not want to die so badly, then I did more research and realized there is possibly more than meets the eye of what we believe is true, the evp's footage, heat monitors I seen makes me question maybe there is a afterlife of some sort.
@KingHeathen And yes I know some people can make that crap up with photoshop or other editing crap like that, I used to say that to but look at it this way, maybe they edit and tell us what they want us to know when it comes to science. Basically saying the book and science could be altered to make us believe this or that is ''right'' or '''wrong''. Get what I am saying?
@Xennia2493 Science is testable. They can tell us whatever they want...but we can check their facts and debunk it...which is what happens EVERY time some "evidence" is presented for the paranormal. Get what I'M saying?
@KingHeathen Yes I do, but it still does not explain experiences people have that they never felt before or outer body experiences. Also from what I have researched the equation e=mc2 says that energy never dies and some people relate it to our vibrations in our head that never dies thus creating energy and energy never dies, from what I have researched.
@Xennia2493 Out of body experiences are also well explained with an understanding of psychology and neurology. E=MC2 has to do with the relativity of TIME...it has nothing to do with energy. You are thinking of the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy. It states and that matter and energy are convertible into each other but remain a net constant. This is an improvement over the OLDER version which said that matter and energy can't be created or destroyed only changed in form.
@KingHeathen Oh woops I always get my stuff mixed up I apologize, however I still believe in the idea of souls being possible in theory, because in the end what is after death is only THEORY nothing more.
@Xennia2493 you are misusing the word "theory" here. A theory is a tested hypothesis supported by evidence. You are using is to mean "a guess" which isn't what theory means in the scientific world. Colloquially, people use it that way, but don't take that to mean that your "theory" of what happens after death which is totally unsupported is in some way on par with REAL theories based on neurological findings.
@Xennia2493 I get what you mean...what you mean is simply not accurate to what science proves! Do you get what I mean?
You keep getting your "stuff mixed" because you simply haven't done the research into this stuff yet. Stop thinking you have it all figured out and just keep asking questions and looking for answers. You are young and seem to be a bright guy...you just haven't put in the time yet to understand all of this stuff.
You are right if you are trying to say there is no soul that comes out of the body at death to go to heaven. The bible really teaches that the soul is the body, not something inside you. The bible says that God blew the breath of life in Adam and he became a living soul. So, without the oxygen and breathing Adam was a dead soul. His body (soul) was dead until he was given the breath of life and HE became a living soul. Hence the term poor soul when something happens to you or others.
@KingHeathen, the soul and spirit are two different things. Soul is the body just as animals have souls, but spirit can mean different things in the context of how it is written. It can be holy spirit (some say holy ghost) which is Gods active force that can create things and other things too. When people say the spirit went out of him it means death, not some soul going to heaven. Sometimes its the spirit made him do it, or his own active force driving a person to do something.
@KingHeathen, Or, if it does not work then you bury the dead soul, the body. Gods holy spirit is his active force a power to create or destroy, it is his power. Mistakenly, people say spirit, like the spirit went out of him meaning his life force or death. Not that some wafting spirit came out, but the power to be able to live. It is not a spirit at all in the context you are trying to convey here.
@aleemiles Please understand CLEARLY...I'm not trying to convey a spirit or a soul in anyway right now....I'm ASKING YOU a question about how YOU see it. I get it...you think that the soul is the body...fine, sounds like semantics to me to then call it a soul, but we'll agree in that it's not separate from the body. My question TO YOU was in the difference in the term "spirit" to the word "soul" in your view. That's all, stop arguing and start conversing.
@KingHeathen, no, the soul IS the body whether dead or alive so there is no soul going into someone to create life. When someone dies and you resusitate them you are not putting a soul into someone you are giving the breath of life back and helping them to be a living soul (body) again.
@KingHeathen, here is another reason why a body does not have a soul or spirit that wafts up to heaven. If it were true then the resurrection in the bible would not be necessary as the person would still be alive in heaven. Then the penalty of death for sin would not happen, so God would not have created a spirit for a person after death.
It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that did not die, during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back, but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.
@0101010101010101ful Actually we can prove their isn't a soul beyond any reasonable doubt. To do so, first you have to examine what the claim is for the existence of a soul. Then through studying neurology we can tell that the human mind doesn't work in any way that would allow for this existence of a soul. I illustrated this in the video.
@KingHeathen a soul does exist to me and to a lot of people in this world,you cant say anything that will change my mind because your just talking,i may not have proof to convince u that there is a soul(nor do i have any interest in doing so)but there is proof to me that there is a soul,i live in a very complecated world with more questions then answers,but ive also seen things that science cannot explain,so with all due respect dont bore me with "scientific proof".
@0101010101010101ful You've seen things that YOU can't explain through YOUR knowledge of science. That doesn't mean that science can't explain it. As I mentioned, a study of neurology would explain (probably) all of your questions and correct your misconceptions over the existence of a soul. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you haven't studied neurology. So how do you KNOW that it can't explain it or prove it to you?
years ago i was practicing obe and was able to come out of my body. i remember coming out of my body and seeing my other body on the bed. you might think i'm bsing here, but it's true.
You could program it to , but it wouldn't be the same.
It would say that it is has a sense of being , but that's only because it was programmed to.
Humans , machines , tables , lenses , and plants are all the same , but humans (And maybe some other animals ) are the only things that "BE" or have a sense of "Being"
A sheet of paper also doesn't have a central nervous system.
A computer can have an artificial set up that resembles one though. How close could we make it into "artificial intelligence?" I don't know, science is still a long way from that. But suppose we could...
So does the computer have a soul now? I'm sure you say no...well, I say, THEN NEITHER DO WE! We are just a series of neurons firing off against stimuli to our brains which we process just like the computer.
The only thing that prevents you from understanding what I am talking about , is the fact that you are misunderstanding "BEING" to be part of the brain , rather than something metaphysical.
You understand Being's human , but not Human's being.
I know now I can never explain how I know a soul to really exist , until you actually find out for yourself.
no, the thing that prevents me from BELIEVING you is that you claim a metaphysical with no proof of one. I understand you just fine...you are just full of it.
According to physics , no one experiences anything , because everything is just a random reaction to something else.
Our brains are more complex reactions , but are nothing more or nothing less than anything on the same level as a bed , a table , a pillow , or a bug.
There is no such thing as experience.
Experiencing something is completely beyond logic .
But humans are just the same as tables , so how can we experience something?
If you say our brain tells us , that is redundant , because our brain IS us.
If you say that we experience the reactions of sensations reaching our brain , I would say that we don't , because our brain just reacts to the reactions of getting hit with sensory neurons.
chimera IS very rare...only about 30 cases known...
But that's NOT what I'm talking about. Chimera occurs when the VERY frequent absorption of the other twin occurs BUT the twin REMAINS inside the surviving fetus microscopically.
Dogs aren't buckets or tables either....does that mean that they have a soul as well? What about mosquitoes? Bacteria?
I can say that a soul is breathing, but it doesn't change the fact that breathing is simply a natural response to our cells needing oxygen. You are simply renaming something into something else and claiming metaphysical properties for it without any evidence of such.
That's fine, you can make your distinction that we are carbon based and tables are also carbon based...
but you are ignoring that tables don't have central nervous systems yet we do.
Besides, you didn't answer the question...Are you suggesting that humans are different because of some soul and if so, what is our difference against dogs, elephants, chimps, etc or do you think they have souls as well?
I set them up in a way that each gear was connected to another. I thought that if I spun one gear , the rest of the gears would spin the next one , and so on , for all of eternity. But it doesn't work like that.
It doesn't matter how complex something is , it is and will always be nothing more than whatever single object it started out as.
If you think that our central nervous system is even SLIGHTLY related to dust collecting on a surface, then there is nothing I can do to help you understand. It would be like trying to explain aerodynamics to someone that thought birds fly because they have strings holding them up.
- I would say it's the very neurons that run our brain. It's only energy.
What happens when we die to this 'soul' thing?
- Being as it would be a kind of 'static' charge, I would imagine, upon death, it would simply discharge and seek the quickest route to ground itself out.
Do we get to 'witness' after death?
- I would say no. Without a brain, the energy can't comprehend itself. It can't oberve without eyes.
Limited character count, bah. Anywho that's my 2 cents.
If the soul does exist, I would have to postulate that it would probably exist throughout our entire bodies, but I don't think you would lose a piece of your soul if you lost a limb/s, etc. If it did have to exist in one particular organ however, I would guess either the heart or the brain, though more likely might be the heart (and here's why): because the heart sends more signals to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. It may be flawed thinking, but it's the best way I could explain.
very interesting video...let me think on it before I really respond but it makes "logical" sense what your saying from a science perspective..I have enjoyed watching several of your videos
there's no such thing as a soul.... there is no proof of it whatsoever. its like religion.. people ...just..believe in it... blindly. people will realize that once they realize god is a synthetic idea as well.
Its my opinion that the soul was invented as a way to ease mans natural fear of of the greatest unknown...death.. People HATE THE UNKNOWN. And death is the biggest one.... None of us have souls...but life is still beautiful.
If the soul has to be constantly awake, we can now conclude that sharks have souls! Woo-hoo! (sorry, it was the first thing that crossed my mind that was too funny not to share.)
God = deity/energy (universal creation, and life). The spirit began in the water and has evolved through us. Although we are all of the same spirit, the soul is what makes each one of us unique, it does this by gathering information through the five senses. A soul is the spirit embodied, an image of god, yet not god himself. An eternal spirit carried in a mortal vessel. The spirit in a warm blooded creature, and perhaps, a recorded programm on your DNA to be used in future ressurection. The soul
Ancient meanings of soul are various but rather similar; ie: aliveness, sea, essence, sum of parts, etc So,for example ,the soul(essence,intent) of a knife is cutting- when the knife is destroyed, cutting is impossible- the soul dies with the material.
I don't know I just feel deep down there is a higher consciousnous. And that would be its function. Also people want to be believe that this is not the only life they live.
And if they say "not all animals have a soul", then you say ; why not? Who desides, that THIS thing, desurve to live for ever, and this other thing, dont? Then some say, that its all aboat conscience. Wel, its a strong argument, but, i can say, that a lot of natural processes braykes down, without organismems without a conscience, inkluding ower own body. "but God can do what ever"..Wel,if he can do what ever,then why is the world like it is HERE,and diffrent there??It dont make scense, does it?
So, what i say, when they say that EEEVERY living organism has a soul, is :::: Okay, so you are telling me, that, in haven, ther are bacteria? like diseases and all of that, in heaven? Or is all the bacteri that "are bad", thrown out? Some argue that they are "all good, in haven, everything, lions and sheeps play to gether" *blablabla*. Okay, So, in Heaven, all eating-needs braykes down? you never have to eat agen? WHY, do we then, have to eat here?To kill? is that good??We have to kill, to eat!
I atack the soul on a nother way. You can always argue that it is as hard to find, as conchense. But if you say ; WHO has a soul? Every humans? okay, animals? Some say no, some say of corse. If the answer is "of corse", then WHERE in evolution id the acure? When did one life-form, get more wurth then the other, when did something say "YOU, desurve to live for ever, and not this thing rigth here". Then someone trye to say that everything, inkluding threes and bacteria has a soul.
Satan and hell don't exist. "but all the evidence has been covered up by dishonesty and modifications through time." Not all of it.
"why is it that all of you religious types cant accept the fact that your particular beliefs that are ALL non-physical may JUST BE insanity?" Just because some aspects of the Christian faith are non-physical doesn't disprove Christianity.
I already answered the question. I was just elaborating on my previous answer. If it was insane logic i would assume it would disproving Christianity.
Since you failed to find my answer the first time, here it is again: "It may JUST BE insanity or it may not be." Meaning i am almost positive that i am right but not 100%.
a soul is just another aspect of mysticism,Erosion,death occurs when the brian stops functioning completely and your body is either buried and left ot decompose or you are cremated.
Im a Christian and Im convinced that not only that a soul exist, but that I can prove it.
First off, I believe we get our souls as soon as our brains have developed and our soul can use it for our physical functions. Adam was fully created with brain included before he became a living soul. I have near death experience vids in my favorite which prove that the soul leaves when brain function ceases.
NDE's are interesting...but have been fully explained by science.
Curious, and I don't want to go into detail...a simple yes or no will suffice and I'll ask no follow ups on it...but since you feel that the soul isn't there until the brain develops, I would imagine you have no problem with the right to choose on early term abortions that occur before the brain is developed. Is that the case?
As to the abortion thing, I'm pretty much undecided.
"NDE's are interesting...but have been fully explained by science." Now, certain cases of NDE may be explained by certain brain functions, but certain cannot.
Science has no explanation for NDE's like the ones in the videos in my favorites. In these cases the brain functions have ceased and are carefully monitered. Therefore, it is sufficient evidence for the existence of a soul.
I personally don't believe in a soul, but if one were to exist, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with ones personality, because people suffering from serious brain damage often change in the way they act (not just motor skills). That being the case, I would speculate that if a soul were to exist, that even if you managed to contact deceased family members, they would not recognize you since they no longer have use of their brain which contained that information.
Some people talk about a soul as though it is a separate thing when in fact it could be part of the one connected experience, albeit a submicroscopic part by comparison... There is too much emphasis on belief anyway, too many careers involved. Scepticism, too.
I know a good and easy way to prove that souls exists, go to a haunted house.......alone.
GODZILLA2915 1 month ago
Lack of evidence is not evidence of lack. You are no more supported by evidence in your claim than is a soul believer.
Gleisien 1 month ago
"You don't have a soul. You are a Soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis
deranged14 5 months ago
Am I the only one who seriously likes to say the explanation in my fantasy stories that the Soul develops with and in synchrony to the body so the partially formed bodies/souls split or fuse depending on whether or not it's twins or a chimera? I always liked that explanation for my stories. Then again it's all bullshit, but I've never seen anyone say that.
LaoGahn 6 months ago
You have to understand that it changes forms. It doesn't "happen" there is no particular phase of life in which a soul "began". It entered a physical body that began, and will leave a physical body that ends. I'm sure even you have had the deja vu moments, where you suddenly remember something vividly, that you know you did not do at all in your life, your current life anyway. The soul is eternal, means it has always been, like matter and energy never created nor destroyed; it changes forms
chernobleman 7 months ago
@chernobleman "It entered a physical body" - WHEN?
Deja vu? Seriously? that's your argument? Deja vu?
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen Are you posting this video to just gain some satisfaction of arguing, or do you even want to learn anything?
chernobleman 6 months ago
@KingHeathen To question one I am not entirely sure when, but I will do my best to find out.
To question two, well, what do you think Deja Vu is?
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman It's a glitch in the Matrix. It happens when they change something.
I am NOT having this discussion with you....seriously...Deja vu? Jeesh.
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen Why do you scoff? You posted a video. You wanted responses. Are you that arrogant? I had no idea that deja vu offended you that much. If you play with matches you can get burned my friend.
chernobleman 6 months ago
@KingHeathen It's ONE of my arguments. I can go on a lot longer if you have the guts to put your money where your mouth is and have DISCUSSION. But you seem to just be close minded, per the many other comments I have seen on this page. This video looks to be more of a fit of pique towards the mere notion of anything spiritual.
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman It's not a good one. I'd suggest dropping it. I attempted to discuss this with you on something that has some real substance and your answer was that you didn't know. Is there any part of this video where I presented an argument that you CAN answer? But don't use unsubstantiated supernatural claims that you can't support with evidence.
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen Well with all due respect, can you substantiate that a soul DOESN'T exist?
chernobleman 6 months ago
@KingHeathen Yes, but that was only one question, and on the opposite end, I am not exactly sure when the soul leaves the body in death, and I don't think you do either. Regardless of what is true, we will all learn for ourselves firsthand some day. You asked many more questions in this video that are very interesting, that I do have some answers to.
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman I don't believe anything such as a "soul" exists...so I don't think that it "leaves" at all since it is never there! So we've got 2 questions you can't answer...a ridiculous assertion about deja vu...I'm DYING to hear these answers you claim to have. (Remember, back it up with evidence.)
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen I am just as likely to find hard evidence on this as you are on your assumption that it doesn't exist. Your video is asking a philosophical question, and I am providing a philosophical answer. Science is merely what we know we can understand, and philosophy, what we can't. If you want some evidence, at least an eye-witness account, you should look up Pam Reynolds and her NDE.
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman Would you agree that you can't be an "eyewitness" to your own story? Next, NDE's has been more thoroughly debunked than deja vu. We KNOW what causes NDE's and it's NOT the existence of a soul but rather the existence of hallucinogenic chemicals in our own brains that kick in at the time of high stress and physical pain. Look into it. It's fascinating stuff.
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen Like I said, you really can't be an "eyewitness" to your account that a soul does not exist, either. This is because the subject mattter at hand is purely philosophical. What makes Pam Reynold's near death experience so compelling is that she had NO brain activity, NO pulse, NO breathing, NO blood in her head, for a WHOLE HOUR, and she was able to tell the doctors what kind of tool he was using, and even recalled a nurses statement during the operation...
chernobleman 6 months ago
@KingHeathen ... and since it was later confirmed by the medical staff in the operation to be true, that would have to be one hell of a coincidence for a "hallucination".
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman Please site the MEDICAL JOURNAL where this was "confirmed."
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen It's cited in the book "Light and Death" by Dr. Michael Sabom, a cardiologist in Georgia who has thoroughly reviewed Pam Reynolds' case, and MANY OTHERS.
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman Dr Sabom is a CARDIOLOGIST and NOT QUALIFIED to speak on neurology. But you didn't answer my question...where is Dr. Sabom's MEDICAL JOURNAL...you know, one of those things that will get peer reviewed for accuracy?
I did a quick search and found MANY people dissecting his fallacious claims. Peer review FTW!
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen When I get the time, I shall search more deeply then.
chernobleman 6 months ago
@chernobleman Great plan.
KingHeathen 6 months ago
@KingHeathen On a lighter note, if my and/or other users comments and/or response emails upset and/or frighten you, stop posting videos asking upsetting and/or frightening questions.
chernobleman 6 months ago
It's a very powerful question. Does the soul exist? Certainly the brain waves, the neurons, the synapses, nerves all exist. We understand how we got here through the progressive biological means of evolution, meiosis and mitosis, but we also have to understand that man is a philosophical animal. The question of does a soul exist is a question of why are we here; it delves into a styfling realm of thought that often stumps the limitations of the human brain, like comprehending being nothing.
chernobleman 8 months ago
For me, the concept of a soul is simply a figure of speech conveying the idea of a personality in a living being. That's it. I don't believe in a ghostly internal entity that lives on after death. I also am not a believer in god(s) either.
Jaybird196 9 months ago
The soul that sinneth shall die.Ezekiel 18-20... their ya have it,simply said!
flatop59 9 months ago
Question, do you believe conciousness is as real as the christian god?
Mythik88 9 months ago
It seems you have forgotten the most important question, Mr. Heathen; If souls were real, and let's assume they are, do gingers have souls?
royohz 11 months ago
The truth is, man does not "have" a soul, he "is" a soul. Those who embrace the "immortal soul" dogma don't have a leg to stand on.
"And the LORD GOD formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life, and man BECAME a living soul." Gen. 2:7
The immortal soul philosophy is popular in both secular and religious arenas, but it's simply not the truth.
loveroflife365 11 months ago
The whole concept doesn't make sense you are the thing or your not you don't have a separate part which is the soul but i think its just a concept nothing more until proven fact.
wachnathan 1 year ago
@KingHathen if is in your heart if you get a heart transplant you changed your soul lol :p
ale119411 1 year ago
@DickKnowsBest He believes in a soul all right the only difference is that he say that is a product of natural selection. Try this video: Daniel Dennett -The Genius of Charles Darwin:The Uncut Interviews: Dawkings say at 4:00: "a soul can emerge from soulless neurons ".That is theology at it's worst. They have been pulling clueless people's legs off all alone into a new religion. Our soul is real and so is God, science is just trying to understand what we know in our hearts is very real.GodBless
dejesusluisx 1 year ago
@DickKnowsBest Proof does not work this way. We don't believe things until you can prove them wrong, we are supposed to disbelieve something until it is proven to exist.
westfalla 1 year ago
@westfalla The accepted knowledge always stands until the new knowledge is proven. In the 16 century Galileo had to prove the heliocentric theory vs the geocentric dogma of the time. He didn’t said:“you are all wrong, prove the geocentric theory is right”. He found the data and presented it. Atheists’ statement is far off scale compare to Galileo’s, hence the burden of proof is on you. Might be silly to prove a negative, but if 80% of the people believe this negative, you just have to. God Bless
dejesusluisx 1 year ago
@dejesusluisx That isn't how it works either, it's close but not quite. The problem is that you are asserting that I'm making a positive claim, which I'm not; I'm making a negative claim which can only be proven false. In fact, it would be impossible to make a positive claim regarding anything with as many definitions as God. The problem is that even if I did prove the negative, you could use another definition. Regardless, you have a positive claim to prove. Also, check your stats, they're off.
westfalla 1 year ago
@westfalla Exactly.
Pantera4LifeXTX 1 year ago
Aristotle defined the soul as one’s essence. Our essence is to love one another. Therefore our soul is love. God is also love; that is our eternal connection. Want to know where the soul resides?, find where your love resides. The soul is pure love energy, as energy it will not disappear after you die; it will go back to his source, if you wish. Dennett and Dawkins both believe in the soul, they just don’t believe it goes to heaven.The Bible isn't the only source, that's why you're lost.GodBless
dejesusluisx 1 year ago
i cant belive nobody knew this, so ill tell you. most everyone has 2 souls and they reside at the bottom of each of your shoes =)
metalmachine80 1 year ago
cmon dude anybody who has taken remedial philosophy knows that simply the fact that you cant prove that something exists doesnt mean it doesnt....im not a christian but the whole line of thinking that leads to atheism confounds me, if u truly believe that there is nothing other than this life and you wont be punished for your actions later on then there is nothing stopping me from killing you right now...you as a person have no significance what so ever and that is something i do not understand
Overkill303 1 year ago
@Overkill303 Never claimed that it did. But there IS something stopping you from killing me now...the society which rejects such actions and my own will to live. You clearly missed the point of the video.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen hey kingheathen I dare you to prove to me the dark side of the moon exists. So you, not a picture, because that can be fake. Also prove a country called China exists! Nothing can be proved!
Anyway it IS a good idea of you to make these videos
MrKorscht 11 months ago
@Overkill303 Not all atheists disbelieve in an afterlife. Anyone that thought about the philosophy class they just took knows that you can't go around believing anything that you haven't proven to exist. The rest just shows that you're a horrible person.
westfalla 1 year ago
@Overkill303 lol remedial philosophy.. no such thing.
streetz23 1 year ago
i always question about that,just like people say animals dont have a soul...bs....but the question to believing in a soul....how about the cases of either a accident that causes brain damage...or a person who gets alzheimer's ...the mind is wiped and most time the person forgets who anyone they knew or even who they are?so how could a person be responsible for their actions or have a soul,if their a whole different person?
chucka59 1 year ago
I think a soul is merely a human construct that self conscious brain matter uses to quantify the part of itself that it previously could not (before the field of neuroscience was ever explored), and still cannot quite explain. It is not quantifiable, or manifested in any way, shape or form, it is not immortal, and it basically comes down to superstitious and ignorant life forms trying (and failing) to contemplate themselves.
benben42 1 year ago
Do you agree with the EVP's that we have now about the afterlife existence? There are actually a lot of evidence, can you please verify why you do not agree with some of them?
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 EVPs? Really? You buy that crap? Sorry, but that entire concept has been thoroughly debunked.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen how so?
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 Way too much to put here, but in a nutshell, it's confirmation bias based on the mind's natural instinct to try to find patterns in the noise. Give the same tracks to people of different languages and they will hear different things that are within their OWN languages. In essence, you hear what you want to hear. Same thing the idiots in the 80's did when they played records backwards for "satanic messages"
KingHeathen 1 year ago
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@KingHeathen I am not talking about the obviously crappy excuse for evidence, I am talking about scientific evidence
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@KingHeathen to add further to this, scientists have found that there is actually VERY FAINT electricity in the human body, and when you die the electricity has to go somewhere, so what happens to electricity usually? it goes downward generally, I can't think of a time where it goes up. But the point is even if there is ghosts, they certainly are not our souls left behind. And Yeah EVP's are a bunch of crap so is this new thing they got called a "ghost box" but there is always science behind it.
foofiter9097 1 year ago
So if the Soul doesn't exist after death then does that mean there's no afterlife?
mucker3000 1 year ago
King Heathen this is a Non-Rational question you can neither prove nor disprove the existence of a soul. It comes down to your own thought and belief because it is a personal thing it’s not a universal statement. But you also bring up your personal opinion because you specifically call it “your thoughts on a soul are as real as your god” which leads down into belief and nothing more.
Jake0Stacy 1 year ago
@Jake0Stacy Wrong...neurology proves it in a very black and white nature. No feelings or desires...just brain waves.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen are you a brain suregon?
Jake0Stacy 1 year ago
what's control your first thought / what's control your will/ what's control your brain to think about something? is it nature? then if a men killing other men is it always because of nature? and you making this video is because of nature too? and who's making the law of nature? is it happen accidentaly? i prefer say i don't know at all, but in practical of life, it really help to belief in soul existence (for me).
potchonk 1 year ago
@potchonk ignoring your horrible grammar (i take it English isn't your first language)...NO ONE is the answer to "who".
Whose fault is it to why lions kill antelopes? is there a "why" or is it simply that one must survive and this is how they do it? It's not an "accident" but simply the "outcome."
KingHeathen 1 year ago
Seems as though the questions King asked here ruffled a few theistic feathers, based on the thumbs ratings.
thenwhycallhimgod 1 year ago
Do you ever personally find it acceptable to say that you just don't know? Merely having a strong opinion is not likely to be solid proof of your understanding. I think people are lead closer to the path of truth when they can accept that some things are currently beyond their understanding. Coming to the conclusion that the best answer one can conceive must be the correct answer seems a bit arrogant. Need proof? Once upon a time, scientists believed the world was flat.
embalyst 1 year ago
@embalyst The answer to your first question is "Yes." However, in THIS circumstance...we DO know. Meanwhile, the religious still DON'T yet claim that THEY do...without evidence.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Did I miss the part in the video where you proved that we DO know that the soul doesn't exist? You posed some questions, but I don't remember any proof. Did you get your proof from somewhere else which you didn't mention?
embalyst 1 year ago
@embalyst I got my proof (and discussed it in the video) from NEUROLOGY. There was also some pretty definitive things that are strongly suggested through embryology as it pertains to neurology. The mind is DEPENDENT on the brain. Damage the brain, you damage the mind. Without a brain, there is no mind. Ergo...the mind isn't separate from the brain and therefore there can not be a "soul" as is traditional described.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
Also from what I researched 9 out of 10 of people who came back to life through AED's and all those things that restart the heart say they experienced the same thing, I just think religion is judging everything and it is all bullshit but I believe it is highly likely that a soul does exist due to the fact science had yet to understand it completely but we are getting there, afterall we only know 5% out of 100 of the universe, maybe out souls goes out there causing space to expand XP theory again
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 First off, I appreciate the detailed explanation of your opinion...However, people experience very DIFFERENT things when near death as a result of their mind inducing a hallucination. Neurology understands this phenomena QUITE well. Some will be very similar, but vary greatly in different cultures. If you think you'll see a white light...you probably will. Same for anything else you believe.
Also, energy is converted to matter and vice versa. Our energy comes from food we eat.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen So if we believe we will go somewhere that we like when we die our brain will grant us that.....cool 8D lol and if we believe nothing will happen when we die then that will basically happen...hmmmm damn, also that does not really explain EVP's and from what I researched from victor zammit's website he goes by scientific method proving there is life after death says our energy goes into a wavelength that we yet discovered. Once again this is theory XP I am just throwing outhypothesis
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 Close...if you believe that you will see a bright light, your brain will hallucinate one in the same way that if you think loved ones will greet you then they will...but, once your brain stops functioning, the hallucination is OVER! You don't "go" anywhere...you just imagined it. Thought is the function of a brain...no brain activity...no thought.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Eh you never know XP I mean that still does not explain EVP's or other ghost evidence we have received from science, science has disproved religion but not what happens after death for it is all theory since no one came back from complete death so nobody will ever know until it happens so there may be hope XP maybe there is a soul but in a unknown wavelength we have not discovered yet, eh that is my theory, I am just saying never judge everything from what you believe XP
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Because judging something based off what people thinks is correct or what seems true but never rule out the possibility of possibly being wrong is kind of foolish, sure science says without brain there is no thought or anything in that matter, but science from what I researched also says the proof of afterlife is there but cannot be explained, science disproves religion but cannot disprove the idea of life after death due to evidence such as EVP's or etc.
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 Ghost evidence? What "ghost evidence" do you have? Random sounds that you assume are voices? Ever played a record backwards? (Of course not, you have probably never played one forward based on your age.) Again, this is a VERY well understood and documented phenomenon. You still have much to learn. Keep digging, you seem smart enough that you'll eventually figure it out.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen I used to be a nihilist, I used to say who cares we are all going to die anyways, I used to say there is no point we just create it in this temporary life illusion, and now I am on antidepressants, have panic disorder, ocd, and ptsd just because I do not want to die so badly, then I did more research and realized there is possibly more than meets the eye of what we believe is true, the evp's footage, heat monitors I seen makes me question maybe there is a afterlife of some sort.
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@KingHeathen And yes I know some people can make that crap up with photoshop or other editing crap like that, I used to say that to but look at it this way, maybe they edit and tell us what they want us to know when it comes to science. Basically saying the book and science could be altered to make us believe this or that is ''right'' or '''wrong''. Get what I am saying?
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 Science is testable. They can tell us whatever they want...but we can check their facts and debunk it...which is what happens EVERY time some "evidence" is presented for the paranormal. Get what I'M saying?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Yes I do, but it still does not explain experiences people have that they never felt before or outer body experiences. Also from what I have researched the equation e=mc2 says that energy never dies and some people relate it to our vibrations in our head that never dies thus creating energy and energy never dies, from what I have researched.
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 Out of body experiences are also well explained with an understanding of psychology and neurology. E=MC2 has to do with the relativity of TIME...it has nothing to do with energy. You are thinking of the Law of Conservation of Mass-Energy. It states and that matter and energy are convertible into each other but remain a net constant. This is an improvement over the OLDER version which said that matter and energy can't be created or destroyed only changed in form.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Oh woops I always get my stuff mixed up I apologize, however I still believe in the idea of souls being possible in theory, because in the end what is after death is only THEORY nothing more.
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 you are misusing the word "theory" here. A theory is a tested hypothesis supported by evidence. You are using is to mean "a guess" which isn't what theory means in the scientific world. Colloquially, people use it that way, but don't take that to mean that your "theory" of what happens after death which is totally unsupported is in some way on par with REAL theories based on neurological findings.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen Shit i got my stuff mixed again -_- well do you get what I mean then?
Xennia2493 1 year ago
@Xennia2493 I get what you mean...what you mean is simply not accurate to what science proves! Do you get what I mean?
You keep getting your "stuff mixed" because you simply haven't done the research into this stuff yet. Stop thinking you have it all figured out and just keep asking questions and looking for answers. You are young and seem to be a bright guy...you just haven't put in the time yet to understand all of this stuff.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen That would be awesome if we go to our own heaven when we die XP sort of like the book the 5 people you meet in heaven
Xennia2493 1 year ago
You ask what proof a soul exists, I can easily say EVPs which is electronic voice phenomenons.
You ask when does the soul develop, I say in THEORY it is possible it develops when the mind becomes self aware I think
Also the reason I think it is possible for the existence of a soul is because our body needs energy to change and experience and energy never dies.
Once again this is my theory and possibilities XP I respect your views
Xennia2493 1 year ago
You are right if you are trying to say there is no soul that comes out of the body at death to go to heaven. The bible really teaches that the soul is the body, not something inside you. The bible says that God blew the breath of life in Adam and he became a living soul. So, without the oxygen and breathing Adam was a dead soul. His body (soul) was dead until he was given the breath of life and HE became a living soul. Hence the term poor soul when something happens to you or others.
aleemiles 1 year ago
@aleemiles I won't disagree with you here...but I would like to ask a question:
Do you consider the "soul" and the "spirit" to be the same concept?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen, the soul and spirit are two different things. Soul is the body just as animals have souls, but spirit can mean different things in the context of how it is written. It can be holy spirit (some say holy ghost) which is Gods active force that can create things and other things too. When people say the spirit went out of him it means death, not some soul going to heaven. Sometimes its the spirit made him do it, or his own active force driving a person to do something.
aleemiles 1 year ago
@aleemiles
spirit went out of him=death
soul went into him=life
(In this context) They seem to be the same thing and you make the exception for the "Holy Spirit." Would that be fair to say?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen, Or, if it does not work then you bury the dead soul, the body. Gods holy spirit is his active force a power to create or destroy, it is his power. Mistakenly, people say spirit, like the spirit went out of him meaning his life force or death. Not that some wafting spirit came out, but the power to be able to live. It is not a spirit at all in the context you are trying to convey here.
aleemiles 1 year ago
@aleemiles Please understand CLEARLY...I'm not trying to convey a spirit or a soul in anyway right now....I'm ASKING YOU a question about how YOU see it. I get it...you think that the soul is the body...fine, sounds like semantics to me to then call it a soul, but we'll agree in that it's not separate from the body. My question TO YOU was in the difference in the term "spirit" to the word "soul" in your view. That's all, stop arguing and start conversing.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen, no, the soul IS the body whether dead or alive so there is no soul going into someone to create life. When someone dies and you resusitate them you are not putting a soul into someone you are giving the breath of life back and helping them to be a living soul (body) again.
aleemiles 1 year ago
@KingHeathen, here is another reason why a body does not have a soul or spirit that wafts up to heaven. If it were true then the resurrection in the bible would not be necessary as the person would still be alive in heaven. Then the penalty of death for sin would not happen, so God would not have created a spirit for a person after death.
aleemiles 1 year ago
In The Name of Allah
It is Allah that takes the souls (of men) at death; and those that did not die, during their sleep: those on whom He has passed the decree of death, He keeps back, but the rest He sends (to their bodies) for a term appointed. Verily in this are Signs for those who reflect.
[Noble Quran 39:42]
There is a creator my brothers & sister believe me .
77705000000000000000 1 year ago
@77705000000000000000
But I DON'T believe you...do you have any proof?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
oh and one more thing,people cant prove there is a soul,but they cant prove there isnt one either
0101010101010101ful 1 year ago
@0101010101010101ful Actually we can prove their isn't a soul beyond any reasonable doubt. To do so, first you have to examine what the claim is for the existence of a soul. Then through studying neurology we can tell that the human mind doesn't work in any way that would allow for this existence of a soul. I illustrated this in the video.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen a soul does exist to me and to a lot of people in this world,you cant say anything that will change my mind because your just talking,i may not have proof to convince u that there is a soul(nor do i have any interest in doing so)but there is proof to me that there is a soul,i live in a very complecated world with more questions then answers,but ive also seen things that science cannot explain,so with all due respect dont bore me with "scientific proof".
0101010101010101ful 1 year ago
@0101010101010101ful You've seen things that YOU can't explain through YOUR knowledge of science. That doesn't mean that science can't explain it. As I mentioned, a study of neurology would explain (probably) all of your questions and correct your misconceptions over the existence of a soul. But I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you haven't studied neurology. So how do you KNOW that it can't explain it or prove it to you?
Then again, ignorance is bliss, so they say.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
we are not supose to know everything,even the smartest person on planet earth dosent know about 80% of what the hell is going on
0101010101010101ful 1 year ago
Wait, how can we prove something outside the realm of science? I mean, if you give me an idea, I'll go for it!
If a soul exists, it would not be of our universe... There doesn't seem like a way to "prove" it.
dragonddff 1 year ago
years ago i was practicing obe and was able to come out of my body. i remember coming out of my body and seeing my other body on the bed. you might think i'm bsing here, but it's true.
SunshineSuperman0999 1 year ago
awesome. Mind to empirically verify that?
MrJesusNazi 1 year ago
@MrJesusNazi
get some books on the subject and do it youself
SunshineSuperman0999 1 year ago
So feelings would be a definite "YES"..
But can it have a sense of "BEING"?
You could program it to , but it wouldn't be the same.
It would say that it is has a sense of being , but that's only because it was programmed to.
Humans , machines , tables , lenses , and plants are all the same , but humans (And maybe some other animals ) are the only things that "BE" or have a sense of "Being"
alexross8 1 year ago
My question to you is ,
Where does the feeling of "being" come from?
When you "BE" a human , you observe feeling.
So does this feeling of "Being" come from the mind , or come from the soul?
alexross8 1 year ago
It's the interpretation of data collected by your mind.
There is no soul.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
A sheet of paper can be a collection of data.
A computer can be a collection of data.
If a robot was created and it had enough space to store all of the human memories and functions , would it have a sense of "Being"?
Would it "Feel"?
You could program it to react to things touching it , so it would have a sense of touch.
It could even be programmed to react with taste , smell , and even sight.
alexross8 1 year ago
A sheet of paper also doesn't have a central nervous system.
A computer can have an artificial set up that resembles one though. How close could we make it into "artificial intelligence?" I don't know, science is still a long way from that. But suppose we could...
So does the computer have a soul now? I'm sure you say no...well, I say, THEN NEITHER DO WE! We are just a series of neurons firing off against stimuli to our brains which we process just like the computer.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
The only thing that prevents you from understanding what I am talking about , is the fact that you are misunderstanding "BEING" to be part of the brain , rather than something metaphysical.
You understand Being's human , but not Human's being.
I know now I can never explain how I know a soul to really exist , until you actually find out for yourself.
alexross8 1 year ago
no, the thing that prevents me from BELIEVING you is that you claim a metaphysical with no proof of one. I understand you just fine...you are just full of it.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
According to physics , no one experiences anything , because everything is just a random reaction to something else.
Our brains are more complex reactions , but are nothing more or nothing less than anything on the same level as a bed , a table , a pillow , or a bug.
There is no such thing as experience.
Experiencing something is completely beyond logic .
Do you experience?
alexross8 1 year ago
Fortunately , Tables do not feel.
Tables don't experience things.
But humans are just the same as tables , so how can we experience something?
If you say our brain tells us , that is redundant , because our brain IS us.
If you say that we experience the reactions of sensations reaching our brain , I would say that we don't , because our brain just reacts to the reactions of getting hit with sensory neurons.
So how can we experience anything at all?
alexross8 1 year ago
you do know that chimera disorder or syndrome whatever it is, is very rare. This whole eating of our twin doesn't happen very often.
delbert0504 1 year ago
chimera IS very rare...only about 30 cases known...
But that's NOT what I'm talking about. Chimera occurs when the VERY frequent absorption of the other twin occurs BUT the twin REMAINS inside the surviving fetus microscopically.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
I'm unaware of the facts behind this but I understand what your getting at. I'll have to go check this out.
delbert0504 1 year ago
you 're stupid
mrkatamura 1 year ago
And you are immature. Go away, grown ups are talking.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
Soul is being.
Body is dirt and water (Elements and chemicals)
Can you be a bucket?
Can you be a table?
The body is just the same as a bucket or a table , so how can you "Be" a human?
alexross8 1 year ago
Dogs aren't buckets or tables either....does that mean that they have a soul as well? What about mosquitoes? Bacteria?
I can say that a soul is breathing, but it doesn't change the fact that breathing is simply a natural response to our cells needing oxygen. You are simply renaming something into something else and claiming metaphysical properties for it without any evidence of such.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Maybe they do.
Think of it this way.
Humans and inanimate objects are just chemicals , metals , etc .
If you said that you could experience something , I would say that you can't , because it's just a reaction in a thing called a "brain".
The brain is just a bunch of chemical reactions.
If you say "I can experience those reactions" , I will probably argue by saying "The table experiences the reaction of being hit , and it feels"
But tables don't feel , they just react.
alexross8 1 year ago
That's fine, you can make your distinction that we are carbon based and tables are also carbon based...
but you are ignoring that tables don't have central nervous systems yet we do.
Besides, you didn't answer the question...Are you suggesting that humans are different because of some soul and if so, what is our difference against dogs, elephants, chimps, etc or do you think they have souls as well?
KingHeathen 1 year ago
@KingHeathen
Like I said , Maybe they have souls , maybe they don't.
What makes our nervous system different from a table's lack of nervous system?
A nervous system is akin to a table's complex system of dust gathering.
The brain , our neurons are nothing more than the elements that make them.
We are nothing more or less equal to a table.
alexross8 1 year ago
When I was little , I used to play with gears.
I set them up in a way that each gear was connected to another. I thought that if I spun one gear , the rest of the gears would spin the next one , and so on , for all of eternity. But it doesn't work like that.
It doesn't matter how complex something is , it is and will always be nothing more than whatever single object it started out as.
alexross8 1 year ago
If you think that our central nervous system is even SLIGHTLY related to dust collecting on a surface, then there is nothing I can do to help you understand. It would be like trying to explain aerodynamics to someone that thought birds fly because they have strings holding them up.
KingHeathen 1 year ago
What is a 'soul'?
- I would say it's the very neurons that run our brain. It's only energy.
What happens when we die to this 'soul' thing?
- Being as it would be a kind of 'static' charge, I would imagine, upon death, it would simply discharge and seek the quickest route to ground itself out.
Do we get to 'witness' after death?
- I would say no. Without a brain, the energy can't comprehend itself. It can't oberve without eyes.
Limited character count, bah. Anywho that's my 2 cents.
LordBLB 2 years ago
It exist in 4d like dark matter/energy
niark978 2 years ago
we exist in four dimensions, we are just only able to percieve 3, but us and the universe exist in four (at least)
delbert0504 1 year ago
We Buddhist believe that if u scare when u about to die then your soul will be destroyed.
niark978 2 years ago
As for what a soul is, in my opinion, a soul is one's life force (chi, etc) or possibly the specific vibrational frequency one's being consists of.
AnarchistAsh 2 years ago
If the soul does exist, I would have to postulate that it would probably exist throughout our entire bodies, but I don't think you would lose a piece of your soul if you lost a limb/s, etc. If it did have to exist in one particular organ however, I would guess either the heart or the brain, though more likely might be the heart (and here's why): because the heart sends more signals to the brain than the brain sends to the heart. It may be flawed thinking, but it's the best way I could explain.
AnarchistAsh 2 years ago
very interesting video...let me think on it before I really respond but it makes "logical" sense what your saying from a science perspective..I have enjoyed watching several of your videos
chavon30 2 years ago
rated 5 stars btw
JakeBartlam 2 years ago
THIS VIDEO IS SO INTERESTING!!!
JakeBartlam 2 years ago
there's no such thing as a soul.... there is no proof of it whatsoever. its like religion.. people ...just..believe in it... blindly. people will realize that once they realize god is a synthetic idea as well.
Its my opinion that the soul was invented as a way to ease mans natural fear of of the greatest unknown...death.. People HATE THE UNKNOWN. And death is the biggest one.... None of us have souls...but life is still beautiful.
mykotron 2 years ago
I view the soul to be mostly a romantic term for our own consciousness and mind. But indeed, it's arguable the soul is an imaginary concept.
AnceyStar 2 years ago
there is simple proof that 'soul' doesnt exist. Sleep. Unless a 'soul' also sleeps. Now there's a thought.....
sweetness2follow 2 years ago
If the soul has to be constantly awake, we can now conclude that sharks have souls! Woo-hoo! (sorry, it was the first thing that crossed my mind that was too funny not to share.)
AnceyStar 2 years ago
Soul = Body + Mind.
Spirit = Life.
What Christians call soul is in fact the Spirit.
MaChOfSweden 2 years ago
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MaChOfSweden 2 years ago
God = deity/energy (universal creation, and life). The spirit began in the water and has evolved through us. Although we are all of the same spirit, the soul is what makes each one of us unique, it does this by gathering information through the five senses. A soul is the spirit embodied, an image of god, yet not god himself. An eternal spirit carried in a mortal vessel. The spirit in a warm blooded creature, and perhaps, a recorded programm on your DNA to be used in future ressurection. The soul
7thangel1 2 years ago
Ancient meanings of soul are various but rather similar; ie: aliveness, sea, essence, sum of parts, etc So,for example ,the soul(essence,intent) of a knife is cutting- when the knife is destroyed, cutting is impossible- the soul dies with the material.
DruidUK 2 years ago
I like the way you put that....
consider it stolen.
; )
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I don't know I just feel deep down there is a higher consciousnous. And that would be its function. Also people want to be believe that this is not the only life they live.
geckopaws2 2 years ago
the better question would be.. what is the function of the soul?
KarinMikazuki 2 years ago
I think that there is no soul.
There is only mind, and curiosity of any "afterlife."
AKMETAL666 2 years ago
a soul is a figment of your imagination (i.e. God)
streetz23 2 years ago
And if they say "not all animals have a soul", then you say ; why not? Who desides, that THIS thing, desurve to live for ever, and this other thing, dont? Then some say, that its all aboat conscience. Wel, its a strong argument, but, i can say, that a lot of natural processes braykes down, without organismems without a conscience, inkluding ower own body. "but God can do what ever"..Wel,if he can do what ever,then why is the world like it is HERE,and diffrent there??It dont make scense, does it?
eikedeus 2 years ago
So, what i say, when they say that EEEVERY living organism has a soul, is :::: Okay, so you are telling me, that, in haven, ther are bacteria? like diseases and all of that, in heaven? Or is all the bacteri that "are bad", thrown out? Some argue that they are "all good, in haven, everything, lions and sheeps play to gether" *blablabla*. Okay, So, in Heaven, all eating-needs braykes down? you never have to eat agen? WHY, do we then, have to eat here?To kill? is that good??We have to kill, to eat!
eikedeus 2 years ago
I atack the soul on a nother way. You can always argue that it is as hard to find, as conchense. But if you say ; WHO has a soul? Every humans? okay, animals? Some say no, some say of corse. If the answer is "of corse", then WHERE in evolution id the acure? When did one life-form, get more wurth then the other, when did something say "YOU, desurve to live for ever, and not this thing rigth here". Then someone trye to say that everything, inkluding threes and bacteria has a soul.
eikedeus 2 years ago
religion and any aspect of it is mysticism.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
What is a soul? - A soul is a non physical 'thing' that has all your life experiences incased inside. It is the soul that meets God after a life.
Proof for souls - Regression
How do we get souls - God creates them before they are placed into physical bodies.
Where does the soul exist in the body? - Don't know but once you are dead the soul leaves.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
Jesus was a physical human being. It may JUST BE insanity or it may not be.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
Satan and hell don't exist. "but all the evidence has been covered up by dishonesty and modifications through time." Not all of it.
"why is it that all of you religious types cant accept the fact that your particular beliefs that are ALL non-physical may JUST BE insanity?" Just because some aspects of the Christian faith are non-physical doesn't disprove Christianity.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
I already answered the question. I was just elaborating on my previous answer. If it was insane logic i would assume it would disproving Christianity.
Since you failed to find my answer the first time, here it is again: "It may JUST BE insanity or it may not be." Meaning i am almost positive that i am right but not 100%.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
"theyre beliefs outside reality" Correction, outside YOUR opinion of reality. So yes, you are wrong.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
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TLSlayer 2 years ago
a soul is just another aspect of mysticism,Erosion,death occurs when the brian stops functioning completely and your body is either buried and left ot decompose or you are cremated.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
Catorgorise the soul however you want, that won't disprove the existence of one.
Slayer, it just might be me being ignorant but i don't see what you are getting at.
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
youre just ignorant.
mysticism is the way of the loser.
TLSlayer 2 years ago
When did i say i believe in mysticism?
Errosion5bucks 2 years ago
Im a Christian and Im convinced that not only that a soul exist, but that I can prove it.
First off, I believe we get our souls as soon as our brains have developed and our soul can use it for our physical functions. Adam was fully created with brain included before he became a living soul. I have near death experience vids in my favorite which prove that the soul leaves when brain function ceases.
ahmalala 2 years ago
NDE's are interesting...but have been fully explained by science.
Curious, and I don't want to go into detail...a simple yes or no will suffice and I'll ask no follow ups on it...but since you feel that the soul isn't there until the brain develops, I would imagine you have no problem with the right to choose on early term abortions that occur before the brain is developed. Is that the case?
KingHeathen 2 years ago
As to the abortion thing, I'm pretty much undecided.
"NDE's are interesting...but have been fully explained by science." Now, certain cases of NDE may be explained by certain brain functions, but certain cannot.
Science has no explanation for NDE's like the ones in the videos in my favorites. In these cases the brain functions have ceased and are carefully monitered. Therefore, it is sufficient evidence for the existence of a soul.
ahmalala 2 years ago
tell ya what...submit any one of them for peer review and see what comes back.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
No atheist has ever been able to refute the events that occur in these videos. Even the doctors seem pretty convinced.
ahmalala 2 years ago
I've given you the course you should take. Do so, or shut up about it. I really don't care which.
If I do a video on NDE's....which I probably will some day, you will be welcome to post your findings there from the review.
KingHeathen 2 years ago
I personally don't believe in a soul, but if one were to exist, it certainly doesn't have anything to do with ones personality, because people suffering from serious brain damage often change in the way they act (not just motor skills). That being the case, I would speculate that if a soul were to exist, that even if you managed to contact deceased family members, they would not recognize you since they no longer have use of their brain which contained that information.
Kojitsu 2 years ago
Some people talk about a soul as though it is a separate thing when in fact it could be part of the one connected experience, albeit a submicroscopic part by comparison... There is too much emphasis on belief anyway, too many careers involved. Scepticism, too.
themanyone 2 years ago