in america we use fpg=fun per gallon we actually have engins in our cars that sound good and when we make diesels there in trucks and they sound beter then ur diesel engins just saying
My wife has a 1995 Merc C220 with nearly 400,000 Ks on the clock ok. And she swears she gets 1000 ks for every 50 litres of deisel she puts in. Which, if my calculations are correct means that she is averaging 56.82 mpg 1000 ks divide by 1.6 = 625 miles. 50 litres into gallons (all UK ). 50 divide by 4.546 = 10.998. So, 10.998 divide by 625 = 56.82 mpg. That has to be good. Anyone else getting near that figure with the same car? Deisel costs $8.27 per UK gal here in France as of now. Not bad??
@pattycarljackson Different countries get different engines depending on the market. Most cars in the UK (and Europe) are diesel so economy is always better.
@TheHornyHomunculus They are the official government figures and can be achieved, otherwise people would sue the government over false advertising! This is kind of outdated now though, the new VW Polo does 91 MPG!
I'm kinda surprised my car is not on the list I have a 2009 Nissan Sentra and get upper 30 and even got over 40mpg more than once have pics to prove it too
We got the ford Fiesta here in the USA now and it advertised at 37 mpg but that is with a gas engine(Petrol) I wish the US Auto makers would make more diesel engines for cars The only dieael cars we have are European cars like VW and Mercedes Benz.
@jmcclelland85 Well it's obviously a scam, because they blame it on N0X emissions?! A low carbon emmitting diesel engine also emits less N0X, no big surprise there, and yet most americans still think that a tiny car capable of over 100 MPG somehow isn't allowed into their country due to "high emissions" Bit of a joke really.
@tikimandude112 Completely incorrect. European cars emit 3 to 5 times less C02 than most US vehicles. Cats have been part of the regs for decades now. How wrong you are.
@tikimandude112 Wrong again. Cats have been mandatory in this country for decades as i said before. The MPG tests are different in the US, and the US gallon is around 17% smaller too, that's why the figures are different. Also, the Mini you gave as an example, the UK one quoted is a diesel, i'm not sure they sell the diesel one in the US? 60% of all new cars are diesel now in Europe as they have higher efficiency and much lower emissions than petrol cars.
RE: pollution/population right you are, my apologies.
RE: US being the stongest, richest and most important country, doesn't China technically own you all now? I'm not saying I prefer China having the power, its a brutal regime, but hold the power they do. The technical superiority of your forces is insufficient to overcome the vast numerical advantage the Chinese have.
China doesn't own anything. just because they hold our debt means NOTHING. Anyone who knows anything about economics can tell you that. They still use OUR dollar for trading, so WE own THEM.
Over 78% of the world uses our dollar. And we can print as much as we want. So we are actually as rich as we want to be.
Uh, I had a 1997-3 cylinder Geo- Metro, 5pd........a great little commuter car. If I drove carefully I could get 60 mpg, and this is without many of the newer fuel saving technologies (variable valve timing, auto shutdown at stop, ultra lean burn mode, gas direct injection to name a few). I could see a little car like the Geo getting close to 100 mpg with some reworking of the systems. Problem is that little car would cost 20 grand, would it even sell? maybe if gas goes to 5 bucks a gallon.
@tickyul Yes, i have had 5 or 6 cars with 3 cylinder engines, very well balanced and fuel efficient. There are normal diesel cars here that, if driven sensibly, will do 126 MPG or maybe more. Fuel here is currently $8.51 a UK gallon, or $7 a US gallon.
@D41H4T5U Yes, I think you guys have cars with engines as small as 600cc's? The trick with small engines is to make them with manual transmissions, a automatic transmission in one of these means no performance. In the United States Of Ameritard Subcompacts are a real hard sell, not much incentive for car companies to innovate. With advanced technology, such as variable displacement and auto shutoff at stops, you could easily get big mileage out of a subcompact. The hard thing is selling them.
Does Europe have the same emission controls that the US does? I ask, because I've noticed that the European Smart car gets considerably better mileage than it's US counterpart... the only difference I can think of is the emission controls ?
@eomaha Well, I drove a Smartcar with a automatic transmission, it was terribly unimpressive, paled in comparison to my 97, Metro. Could not tell you if US and European emissions are different, they might be, I think europe has a lot more diesel engines. Subcompact commuter cars could easily get 100mpg with the new technology available.
@tickyul Europe has much stricter emissions, the cars here emit on average 3 to 5 times less! And in the USA they only test for N0X, not C02 like in Europe (even though a car that emits low C02 will have equaly low N0X as well)
@D41H4T5U Well, the USA has vehicles that are a lot cleaner than they were..even just ten years ago. I think the emssion standards get tighter year after year. Co2 is tested but not yet regulated, was not until recently considered a problem. The advent of Obd2 was a major breakthrough in both diagnostic capability and emission contol, this was mandated by the federal government. A bigger problem is the waste of fuel due to people driving cars that are too big for their needs, that won't change.
The USA has less than 5% of the worlds population, 6,872,000,000 people in the world, there are only 310,370,000 people in the USA. As for the superior fuel economy, most cars in Europe are smaller, lighter, with smaller engines and manual transmissions due the the layout of european roads and high petrol prices. the only way the USA will get close is by consumers buying smaller cars with manual transmissions.
@evilamnesiac Hehe, fat chance...unless gas gets up to 6 bucks a gallon on a regular basis. Ameritards are too lazy to drive manual transmissions, will make it too hard to text and drive.
@evilamnesiac Fat chance, Ameritards will not for the most part buy subcompacts. I had a 97 Metro, a great little car with excellent handling and good performance partly due to it being a stick. If you buy a Subcompact with an automatic....forget about performance. I drove A Smartcar, what a piece of crap, poor handling and pathetic acceleration. A modernized Chevy, Metro could get 100Mpg, Ameritards would not buy it though.
At the end of the day the u.s. is the strongest, richest and most important country of the world. we are the boss. ahhhh it sure does feel good knowing you live in the richest and strongest country of the world......
@coldbedsheets "At the end of the day the US. is the strongest, richest and most important country of the world. we are the boss"
= So many things wrong with this. At the end of the day? You speak like there is no tomorrow?
Stongest, richest and most important? Go walk around parts of Detroit and see how rich & strong you are. Hurricane Katrina showed the World how strong and important American people are
The world is not fooled by the bubble of FEAR you people live in. Iran is better LOL
so you're using a couple of run down u.s. cities to say that we aren't the strongest? LOL Even the strongest and richest country in the world will have slums you moron.
We are the richest. Case closed. We make $14.2 trillion a year which is over 2x more than 2nd place(china-and they have 4x more people)
We are the strongest country in the world because of our military. There is no arguing there.
And we are the most important because we control the world's money<--Just one example
@coldbedsheets USA is one extreme to the other. You have the World's wealthiest people living down the road from the World's poorest people. You offer under-educated children from broken families with no opportunities the chance to earn "good money" by invading and plundering other countries.
You have the highest consumption of Cocaine & Heroin on the planet and LA has over 16,000 street gangs.
You control the World's money? Are you a billionaire Jewish banker? No, YOU don't control SHIT
Even our poorest of people get free food, free shelter, free health care, and many more things. So to compare our poorest people to say people in africa is absolutely comical.
I never said I control the world's money you clown. I said WE do, cause i was referring to my COUNTRY.
Highest consumption of cocaine and heroin? LOL And did you know the uk is right behind us in those statistics? YOU FAIL.
@coldbedsheets "And did you know the uk is right behind us in those statistics?"
= Yes because our Governments work together to crush their respective citizens. They want citizens living in FEAR and incapable of making informed decisions. They want people using Wikipedia to do research.
Yes, the World's poorest people. 50 miles down the road from where I live, a 10 year old boy was found selling Heroin in a city called Swansea.
We wage wars to bring our "culture" to these places.
Um i don't think herion selling will constitute being the poorest country. Jesus fucking christ.
So we have the poorest people? LOLOL
Our standard for "poverty" is much much much higher than any other country on earth. Get your fucking facts straight.
You moron conspiracy theorist piece of shit. We didn't create ww2. Just because we FUNDED the germans(before we knew about their atrocities) doesn't mean we CREATED the war.
We funded freedom fighters who were fighting off the soviets. They then TURNED on us. Everyone knows this. That doesn't mean we KNEW they were going to turn on us.
Yes, we do go into countries and remove/replace their leaders, but that is only cause we're the policeman of the world. Whether you like it or not, we are.
wow i could run circles around you in an argument of the whole 9/11 truth bullshit.
Yes, osama bin laden was behind the attacks. Case closed.
Holocaust of Palestinians? LOLOL Yeah and of course your always forgetting the horrific shit that the other side does to Israel. But i don't blame you cause you are just another dumbass conspiracy theorist who believes everything their favorite conspiracy nutjob tells them.
@coldbedsheets And this has what to do with fuel economy may i ask? I'm not sure how a new country like the USA, only a few hundred years old manages to get itself in such trouble over everything! Some of the places it is at war with have history going back 7000 years.
We don't have as much loooong history as other countries, but in the short few hundred years that we've been here, we have already established ourselves as the richest and most powerful country on earth. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
And BTW what is this -"
Fuel here is currently $8.51 a UK gallon, or $7 a US gallon"
Are you referring to the imported u.s. oil in the uk, or are you actually saying that our gas is $7 over here??? Cause if its the latter then your wrong
@coldbedsheets Well this is what annoys me, how self proud Americans are. It's not that big a deal that a few imigrants migrated to America from places like Europe a few years ago. The first few hundred years of the USA's histroy is full of selfish, racist bloodshed. Even today they commit treason, war and murder on thousands of people every day, so maybe things havn't changed much? did you know 10 people are still killed every day in Vietnam by unexploded bombs dropped in the 60's?
Oh no that certainly isn't meant to be sarcastic. It is a well known fact that Americans are superior to any other country. Doesn't matter where your family ancestry is from, if you were born in America, then you are more important than everyone else.
And btw you are wrong about the u.s. using more heroin. You should do better research next time. Iran is the highest user of opiates, and the uk actually uses more opiates than the u.s. YOU FAIL
You talk about the "poor people of Africa" and how "we control the World's money"....that means you control the Worlds poverty. You control the World's wars. You control the number of displaced people who are refugees from Wars you fund. Britain did the same before America bought us out in WWII (which USA created)
An electric car that charges exclusively with power from a conventional coal-fired power plant itill has a lower footprint than one with an internal combustion engine.
And that's before we get nuclear/renewables involved.
@hagenar Well, in the United States Of Ameritard....don't look for ANY nuke plants to be built any time soon. I mean, every environmental group will do all in its power to stop this clean, safe form of energy from spreading. The lawyers have a huge hand in the way things work in this country.
@tickyul Agreed. It's a shame that the green movement is so encumbered with this anti-nuke agenda. It's counterproductive to the goal of saving the world.
@hagenar Well, they are also stopping the building of "clean" energy plants in the form of solar and wind, the litigation will never end. I think that a lot of Ameritards are really impractical in their thinking when it comes to energy, nothing is perfect......but, that is what a lot of Ameritard enviros want. When you live in a huge, modern society you are going to have some negative effect of the planet.........or you can have a society thrust back into the 18h century.
@coldbedsheets That's electric. All the cars quoted are petrol or diesel, no electrics or hybrids. Are you forgetting also where Telsla got the car from? Yep, the UK based Lotus Evora
@coldbedsheets Er when is this then? We already have many electric cars on the road, go to the big cities and the streets are lined with plug in points already. And i personaly think Electric only cars are worse for the environment than a petrol or diesel. Some normal European diesel cars do 126 MPG
I meant commercially electric SEDAN. Not those little boxes you call cars. Hell, we have those too. Im talking about actual SEDANS. And also we were the first to have a electric sportscar that goes 0-60 faster than some ferarris and lambo's.
Oh, and by the way, our new tesla model s SEDAN will essentially get over 300 mpg because it goes 300 miles without recharging, and to fully recharge it, it cost about one gallon of regular gas.
@coldbedsheets You seem pretty passionate about this, but i'm afraid it doesn't interest me at all. Sure electric cars are popping up right left and centre, but it has nothing to do with saving the planet or fuel for that matter, it's just marketing at the end of the day. Technically a super car is still more efficient than any electric car. Go on ask my why!
You have to be INSANE to think that a super car is more efficient than an electric car!!!
Just because you burn coal to make electricity for the electric car doesn't mean its not good for the environment. In fact, less than 30% of the electricity in the world is made by burning fuel.
It has been estimated that even with using electricity obtained by burning coal for your electric car, you use 1/3rd the amount of fossil fuels as a PRIUS let alone a diesel
@coldbedsheets I see you have fell for the marketing then! What about the batteries that need replacing every 3 years, which are made from harmful chemicals drilled in poor countries (which cause acid rain and other pollution too) and are then flown around the world in various stages of refinement, before wareing out after 3 years and causing harmful waste too? And yes, the electric too, the USA gets 40% of it's electric from coal powered stations last time i checked.
First of all, both the motors in the tesla sports car and the tesla sedan don't need replacing for 10 years, AND they don't have any dangerous chemicals in them. You can literally throw them in the trash(all though it isn't recommended)
And i never said that the u.s. got its power from 30% coal, i said the WORLD got its power from 30% coal.
And even with getting your electricity from coal power plants, if every one had an electric car, they would be putting 1/3rd of the fossil fuels as a prius.
@coldbedsheets Electric cars will take a long time to catch on. They've been in development for so long at such an expense that the purchase price will probably be stupid too. Then there's the embarasement as well, you'll never get respected in the same way as you would driving an exotic car. And why would you be interested anyway? Fuel is so cheap in the US, it would barely save you any money at all? I love the sound of Spots cars, the exhaust, the back fires when i change gear etc
So let me get this straight....you won't get an electric car cause you want respect? LOL thats not the point to having an electric car, its to help save the environment.
And even with the cheap gas in the u.s., electricity is 1/3rd as cheap. it cost about 10 cents to go a mile on gas and it cost about 3 cents to go on electric.
Oh, and the new electric tesla sedan will be about $50,000 which isn't bad being that its considered a luxury car.
@coldbedsheets Save the environment? Americans are so funny when it comes to this! It's like the oil spill, look how angry they are, the amount of oil that spilled in 3 to 4 months was the same that the US uses in 6 HOURS! Our Earth has been around for billions of years, human existance will be very short, a few thousand years only. It won't matter at all what happens to anything after a few million years will it? So enjoy it, lifes short, stop worrying. 1 car won't make a difference...
@D41H4T5U wow your ignorant. of course nothing will change when everyone has the same attitude as you. thats for sure. maybe you dont deserve to enjoy life, because in the long run your ruining it for your children, and their children. perhaps everyone who thinks like you should jump off of a cliff? then we might live a few thousand years longer :)
@FlowVipTv Don't get me wrong, i use to care intensely. But then i realised what a scam carbon taxes are. Like the 16 largest ships in the world, they create more pollution than every car in the world combined, but are exempt from carbon taxes, and they burn tar as fuel! Planes too, ONE flight emits the same amount of pollution as my car would in 20 YEARS, and yet i still have to pay a few hundred bucks every year for the tiny amount of pollution that comes out my car. It's all an excuse
lol First of all, sure, the same amount of oil that was spilled in the ocean is probably the same amount that we use in 6 hours, but there is a BIG difference. The difference is that ITS IN THE OCEAN. Geez anyone could figure that one out.
And sure, 1 car won't make a difference(duh) but if the whole population switched to electric then it WOULD make a difference.
@coldbedsheets Yep if the whole population switched to electric, the crisis would be even worse, no one can produce enough electric to supply every car, even if they could, if would kind of defeat the object of "clean" cars as the amount of pollution made to create the electric in the first place would be much higher than the small amount of carbon released from the clean cars of today. Remember USA = 5% of the Worlds population, but they create 25% of the Worlds pollution!
haha im sorry but you are being very ignorant. If the whole world switched to electric cars it would be a LOT better than our current reliance on foreign OIL. And it would force the governments to institutionalize hundreds of thousands if not millions of solar panels to increase our electricity reserves.
Trust me, depending on electricity is a LOT safer and cheaper than depending on oil, let alone FOREIGN oil
@coldbedsheets can i point out we cant just switch to electric like that, because we still dont have mass solor panels, so we'd still use the same amount of oil as we are now. And, we cannot create enough litium for cars in mass.
And by the way, The u.s. has about 20% of the world's pollution not 25%. And that's because we are the largest industrialized country on earth. If the uk was as big and industrialized as us they would be just as pollutive.
And you are forgetting that there are many other ways of obtaining electricity than by burning coal. There's SOLAR PANELS. which are completely clean. If the whole world started building more solar panels it would be a lot cleaner
@coldbedsheets Na, China, Taiwan places like that make the USA look like a tiny workshop in comparison, you need to get your facts right, there are plenty of other developing countries with far bigger industries that what's in the USA! And solar pannels, i've been to Florida 5 times, "the sunshine state" it seems Americans are so obsessed with making their houses look like a film set, they are refusing to use solar panels! I never saw 1 in Florida. Even we have sloar panneled street lights/signs
@coldbedsheets Uh, yeah....and how much is that Tesla??? I mean, I would love to buy a practical electric car....but, I am a real cheapo, is there going to be a economy version of this car???
Don't know if there is going to be a cheaper version of the tesla, but the main reason why its so expensive is because there is such a small production of them. If there was a larger production scale of the teslas then the price would gradually go down.
But there is the tesla model s that will come out soon. it should start around 50 grand but you get alot for it. Its really cool, you should check it out on youtube. Its a fully electric sedan.
If all the US cars shown had diesel engines they would easily get 25-30 mpg more then the gas engines do. That's a big reason why our cars are so inefficient. Funny how the number one spot went to a diesel. Prius shouldn't be included in this list because of how environmentally damaging it is. 48mpg? My ass. I have an 06 Jetta TDI and get 43 city and anywhere from 50-55 on the highway which would be pretty low to European standards.
@ElvenousAndrogynous This video is quite old now. Recently a couple got 126 MPG in a normal diesel car. There are quite a few diesels on sale now that offer up to 85 MPG, i got 82 MPG in my old car.
European cars are small and eco friendly cuz the eco law in europe is very strict. If you car emits a lot of CO2 (for example 201grams of CO2 per kilometer ) you will pay a freakin 450 Euros in a year, thats about 500 us dollars. That is a lot of money. The second reason is that big Suv are not practical in typical European city, cuz the streets are narrow. So Europeans buy small car that are very safe, practical and eco friendly. Also the diesel in Europe is cheaper than the petrol
I have been looking for the most efficient autos available " key word " in the US. I have found that for a US offered diesel it would be a VW Golf 42HWY mpg, for a gas Toyota Prius 48HWY mpg, and for a suv it would be a Ford Escape at 34HWY mpg. The VW Golf Blue is another that is not for sale in the US. The Mahindra mid sized truck is now offered is the US clean diesel 30HWY mpg nice looking truck, but I have yet to see one on the road.
I didn't include hybrids in the vid, just gas/diesel. US figures are always lower for 3 reasons, the US gallon is smaller, and they have different tests to those in the UK/Europe. The Golf Blue motion is probably one of the most economical cars around today with 83 UK MPG or 74 UK MPG average. The car i want is a Mercedes C-Class 2.1 Diesel, does 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and 67 UK MPG! Best of both!
Best possible. A little outdated now, since the new Euro emission standards, there are cars that do more, VW Golf Blue motion for example does 83 MPG!
For the difference in price at the very least $10,000 i can buy alot of Fuel for my gas guzzler. I do agree with the video, every car maker should offer diesel engine for the Expedition, Suburban, ect.
A car would be very hard for my family to use 5 of us and a trip to town to buy everyday goods, even the large SUV is often small feeling. When it is just my wife and I at home the smaller car would be a wise move.
Well yea, but there are only large "gas guzzlers" in America, everywhere else in the World, people still have large families and travel large distances, yet we manage with much more efficient vehicles, not smaller, as i've said, you can have a large family car with more room than most American cars. The design of 90% of American cars is poor, large engine/transmission etc take up a lot of interior space. The cars i've owned in the past have more room than most American sedans.
I'll take the size, I live in nowhere West Texas and have nothing smaller than an Exedition drive 70miles to get to town at 80mph average mpg of 14.5 love it HAVE CASH WILL TRAVEL !!!!!
fair enough, but there are large executive cars like BMW, Audi VW etc, fast varients too that do 60 to 80 MPG, so why only drive a car that does 14.5?
US cars are bigger because we just don't like small cars. They weigh more because of stricter federal crash standards, and for some reason americans don't like the idea of diesel in anything but a huge truck. This isn't a mystery people. I'd rather get 30mpg in a V8 car that I love than 70mpg in a turd econobox.
@justinl67 Actually you're very wrong, the crash standard in Europe are very strict indeed and take pedestrians into consideration too. Cars tend to be smaller, so crash standards need to be stricter, my tiny car has 7 airbags alone. Bigger is not better in a crash, it depends how you crash into what, at what speed of course. And "Turd Econobox" you think just because something does 70+ MPG it's crud? There are big and small cars here that do 60 to 120 MPG if you want...
Reading comprehension 101. Not a turd because it gets 70MPG. It's a turd because it's a shell of car that needs 70MPG for anyone to even want it. The fact is also that any car imported to the states almost always ends up heavier because of federal regulations. Never said you didn't have strict law, states are just more strict. My original point was that a car should be about passion, not trying to save the whales one gallon at a time.
@justinl67 The car market in Europe is different to the US, people are not as fat so cars are smaller, doesn't mean they're crap!? Aston Martin have just released a £30,000 small car, all the luxuries of an Aston, but in a smart car sized car. I don't get your point really, some of the cars featured in the video are the best selling cars in Europe/UK, how did it come to this if "nobody wants them"? Remember Europe produces nearly twice as many cars as the USA every year...
Yeah, I remember the Aston very well. It was based off the Toyota iQ. Not bad for a small car considering all the refinements of an Aston with the fuel usage of a Prius. Besides, think about it. If the guy says that the U.S safety regulations are so strict, why is it that foreign markets tend to only advertise European safety standards on their cars? I'm not saying that the U.S safety regulations suck or anything, I just say that they are not as strict as the Europeans.
If you weren't so narrow-minded your comprehension skills would skyrocket. Practically no one in America wants a car like that, and when they do, 50 percent want it so people will automatically know just how pretentious they are. Saw the Aston Martin about 3 weeks ago, fantastic idea...looks like ass. Congrats on your CONTINENT producing twice the amount of our country and good luck never realizing that two ends of the world vary in automotive taste and necessity.
I love watching all these new commercial on fuel saving cars in the US. Only one problem I have with them I have been driving a car that get 35 miles a gallon for over 13 years now, my little 2.5l iron duke under the hood made in1984. So why should I buy a new car that gets less mpg ?
@XXRedRavenXX Yea but in Europe, cars that do 60+ MPG have existed since the 80's. 35 MPG is not quite as good as 126 MPG is it? That's what some couple got on a 3700 mile trip around the UK in a normal diesel hatchback! (google it!) My old car did 82 MPG but you had to drive it very slowly indeed...
@D41H4T5U Yes you make my point, they want to sell me something I already have. I am not saying my car gets great mpg but, here in the US this is good so what gives? How many years will people in this country put up with the lies.
@XXRedRavenXX I see what you mean, MPG standards have remained pretty much the same for the past 20 odd years in the states. It's only now we start to see alternative fuels being used such as hydrogen, electric etc. Gas/diesel will probably be exclusive fuels for industrial use only in a few decades and we'll all be whizzing round in electric cars!
I wouldn't see a need for any kinds of alternations. Since if the cars have better emissions and safety regulations already, why change it?
Any changes would just be for the worse then.
Oh and if you were to compare cars from the States Vs. European ones. Try to keep Asian brands (Mazda to name one) out of the picture. Same with US and Euro. Ford is an American car.
No you don't understand. They're not US or UK made cars, but cars available on the US and UK market. Otherwise, the UK would have 0 cars, as the only remaining UK car manufactures are small independent Sports car makers. Most of the good stuff comes from Europe and/or Asia. Same in the Sates i guess, how many of those top 20 are US brands? Not many at all!
As far as i can tell, the US keeps it's fuel cheap but keeps the consumers buying more of it by keeping MPG standards low. In Europe, fuel is 3 to 4 times dearer so there is a demand for smaller cars. And also the MPG/emission standards are so much higher in Europe. For example, some European cars only have an oil change every 30,000 miles! But in the US, people change their oil every 3000 to 5000 miles! And also, Europe's fuel is more refined giving less harmful pollutants, and more power.
Yes but what i meant was cars available in the UK market. Obviously there are hardly any UK manufactures left at all, all been bought by bigger firms.
We need to draw the attention of the mainstream American consumers, so they can start to demand this.
The ONLY reason these are not sold in America is that the Auto companies are fighting clean diesel and lobby for outrageous restrictions on air quality!!!!
You're right, it's obviously a big scam, keep fuel cheap in the US but also keep developing cars that only do 20 MPG also?! A car that emits less C02 is obviously going to emit less N0X as well, why don't people get this?
20,000,000 barrels of oil are used every day in the US, that's a fifth of the entire Worlds oil consumed, and they are only 5% of the Worlds population!
Just recently a couple managed to get 126 MPG from a normal diesel hatchback over 3700 miles (google it)
Sounds like you've only just realised! Did you hear about the couple who drove around the UK and got 126 MPG from a normal diesel hatchback over 3700 miles!?
its all horses for course if gas was cheaper here in the uk most people would like a bigger car
America has three grades of unleaded the cheap stuff being RON 88 and when prices went up last year Americas prices doubled to over 4$ a gallon where in the uk it went up by just an average £1,20 so they dont get it all easy,they just get hit harder when markets change,Kia honda and toyota are changing the market to more economical cars there
why can't we get these cars or these types of cars in america, the prius gets 50 buts it's ugly as hell, i would much rather these nice 60 to 80 mpg cars, our crossovers are getting at best 28 mpg, theirs are around 60, stop making hybrids and start making 80 mpg clean diesel cars
I agree, small economical diesel's have always been popular since the late 80'2 early 90's in Europe, they never caught on in the US but fuel has always been cheap, they use this as an excuse to waste it and the government allows it as there is so little tax on fuel in the US, they encourage people to use more to make up for it. Fuel is around $6 to $7 a US gallon here at the moment, almost half the price it was around a year ago! Imagine a diesel hybrid?
but to be honest, what's the point of ultra-frugal cars when fuel is so cheap? it only costs me like $30 to fill up my car, so why shouldn't i drive a fun, fast car?
i think bmw's 335d is an exception. 0-60 in under 6 seconds, and 36 mpg on the highway. that's great.
Fastest car around Top Gears track does 0-60 in 2.88 seconds and still does 30 to 40 MPG! My car does over 50 MPG and 0-60 in 7.8 seconds. My old car was slow but did 82 MPG, some cars do over 100 MPG
Caterham R500 superlight. Only has a 2.0 litre engine but the thing is so light it returns great performance and economy. Small = light the key ingredient in a recipe for economy AND performance, hence why i always buy small cars! Take your average Lotus, very small and light 0-60 takes 4 or 5 seconds yet it will still do 50 MPG if driven sensibly as it only has a 1.8 litre engine! Makes sense to me, most car makes sacrifice economy for performance, but it's possible to have both.
Ford is the only domestic auto I would ever consider buying again. I do like the styling of the Fiat 500,I'll give you that.However, if Fiat comes to US and wants to prosper, they better not send us garbage like they did in the 70's.
..that is until they proved to be very reliable cars. Although they didn't stand up very well to Detroit iron at the time, they have made significant improvements that has made them very well respected automaker today in the US.
First of all, my info comes from extensive research thru many consumer tests, reviews from actual owners and mechanics with experience with VW.Secondly, not ALL americans are biased against economy cars. As far as American cars or cars sold in the US, Henry J was the first economy car built in 1950. Economy cars have always been controversial in the US primarily because of poor design and safety flaws. When Honda and Toyota showed up here in the 60's everyone giggled about their cars....
The concept of the TDI is great. However, the final product has proven to be much less than reliable. I,personally embrace the good intentions of VW to offer this green tecnology to the US. But what good does this do when the car is in need of frequent repairs. I'm not going to say American cars are any better, but if a vehicle can't serve it's basic pupose of providing reliable transportation, then all the green technology this car has is useless.
in europe volkswagen is the pinnacle of reliability because the cars sold in europe are built in germany. for the american market, they're built in mexico. so of course they're less reliable in america.
they always do things like this to their american customers.
I'll agree with you there, VW lost their reputation and US sales in the early 80's onward when they quit importing the Beetle and ceased production of the Rabbit,two of their most reliable US sold cars. My dad used to have a VW Rabbit diesel and that damn thing lasted forever and always returned 50 MPG easily.
yep. and today they're at it again, screwing the americans over. the MKVI golf gti in europe comes with adaptive chassis control, adaptive cruise control, a revised engine, and a new differential. well, i read an article recently, and the american market will see none of these upgrades. we'll just be getting a mkV golf in a fat suit.
and don't even get me started with the scirocco and phaeton not being sold here. or the lack of a manual or dsg in the passatt cc in america.
Ok here is what I know. I gladly have a debate in this so feel free to reply.
1. European cars are mostly diesel therefore higher MPG output.. The (U.S.) Jetta does not output such a high MPG unless you have the diesel version. (Further proof?)
2. Safety and emission are much more strict in the U.S. A diesel BMW requires urea to reduce NOx emitions to be legal in certain states. The reason the diesel Mini won't come to the U.S. cause it failed the emission standards. Safety is more strict as wel
1. Correct - diesel cars are more common in Europe 60% diesel 40% gas. This is mainly due to fuel prices (anything between $6 and $14 a US gallon) and carbon based taxes (the more you pollute, the more road tax you pay)
2. Safety/emission standards are just as high, if not higher here, the tests between the US and Europe are different and not compatible, hence all the confusion regarding safety/emissions etc. Here we test for C02 as it's believed to be the biggest contributor to global warming
Aha I see. I guess you did a nice clip but you can't argue the fact they are much better because of different emission standards. NOx I believe is the cause of holes in the ozone layer, not global warming. (I might be wrong). The U.S. and Europe r focusing on different things and therefore the different MPG.
-Sorry for the American dickheads who cannot give a solid and peaceful argument. Too much patriotism. Can't blame them, it seems our government is purposely doing it for their own benefit
No worries, there has always been so much confusion surrounding emission standards etc in the US/Europe. The emissions for diesel cars are obviously much lower, if you look at C02 emissions for a modern Euro diesel, it will be anything between 90 to 150 grams per kilometre, compare that to a gas Hummer which emits over 400 grams per kilometre! Shocking comparison. Obviously a car that emits this much C02 will emit excessive other pollutants too such as the N0X you refer too.
Ok c'mon you are talking about a Hummer. I see 1 Hummer every week. I am not defending that this country has better emissions overall but I am sure overall we emit less NOx then Europe.
I very much doubt it tbh. Overall emissions in Europe have only dropped 3% between 1990 and 2004, however the USA's rose by 16% for the same period. In the UK for the same period, they dropped by 58%! Europe is famous for it's emission standards etc, we have new ones coming into force soon, even stricter. On the reg documents of any car it displays the C02 output, but also the N0X output, i can check mine if you want, so you have something to compare it to?
Can you read? they rose 16% between 1990 and 2004, there weren't many hybrids around in 2004, only in Japan mostly. And i said overall emissions, not transport, so that includes manufacturing/production/domestic etc too.
My facts are correct, just because you're too fat and inbred to understand them, doesn't mean they're not true does it? Learn to type, learn to spell, learn to speak and ask questions properly in future and you won't look like such a retarded hill billy to other people.
Won't you believe any of my facts? Don't you think i did the fucking research first to avoid dip shits like you? Go find some official government controlled sites, they spend millions every year paying scientists to compile the data, not me, we just have to believe them. I've told you where my facts are from, now fuck off and make your own mind up fool.
in america we use fpg=fun per gallon we actually have engins in our cars that sound good and when we make diesels there in trucks and they sound beter then ur diesel engins just saying
coreyhess1 3 months ago
@coreyhess1 Oh dear, not driven many European cars have we? Been to Europe recently? Thought not...
D41H4T5U 3 months ago 2
@coreyhess1 What about mercedes diesel engines? Theres no fucking with them dude..
marlb0r015 3 months ago
@coreyhess1 - Look up the prices of fuel in Europe.. maybe then you'll understand
xIntoThePitx 2 months ago
The MPG test cycles are different
TylerBrandonHardwick 5 months ago
My wife has a 1995 Merc C220 with nearly 400,000 Ks on the clock ok. And she swears she gets 1000 ks for every 50 litres of deisel she puts in. Which, if my calculations are correct means that she is averaging 56.82 mpg 1000 ks divide by 1.6 = 625 miles. 50 litres into gallons (all UK ). 50 divide by 4.546 = 10.998. So, 10.998 divide by 625 = 56.82 mpg. That has to be good. Anyone else getting near that figure with the same car? Deisel costs $8.27 per UK gal here in France as of now. Not bad??
777Gagarin 5 months ago
the supposidly ford focus that is not a ford focus here int he u.s and it does not get 67 mpg.
pattycarljackson 5 months ago
@pattycarljackson Different countries get different engines depending on the market. Most cars in the UK (and Europe) are diesel so economy is always better.
D41H4T5U 5 months ago
This is bullshit. None of the cars get anywhere near the economy stated.
TheHornyHomunculus 6 months ago
@TheHornyHomunculus They are the official government figures and can be achieved, otherwise people would sue the government over false advertising! This is kind of outdated now though, the new VW Polo does 91 MPG!
D41H4T5U 6 months ago
I'm kinda surprised my car is not on the list I have a 2009 Nissan Sentra and get upper 30 and even got over 40mpg more than once have pics to prove it too
ButchGuy78 6 months ago
@Lithuania4L your mum buys diesel engines. FAGGOT
1RothMan 8 months ago
imperial gallon is about 20% larger than the U.S. gallon.
rcpmac 9 months ago
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eurohim 9 months ago
@UnboundLegend Are they? My one cost £6500 new, that's $10400 approx
D41H4T5U 10 months ago
Fuck US piece of shit corrupt government.
Utopia569 1 year ago
go US!!!!! :))
blazzing4321 1 year ago
I want my car to get 73 mile per gallon but in only get 28 mpg and its suspose to be a compact car it bs
jmcclelland85 1 year ago
@jmcclelland85 I've just an advert for a Seat (same engine as VW) in the local paper, says it will do 90 MPG, just a diesel not even a hybrid!
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
We got the ford Fiesta here in the USA now and it advertised at 37 mpg but that is with a gas engine(Petrol) I wish the US Auto makers would make more diesel engines for cars The only dieael cars we have are European cars like VW and Mercedes Benz.
jmcclelland85 1 year ago
@jmcclelland85 Well it's obviously a scam, because they blame it on N0X emissions?! A low carbon emmitting diesel engine also emits less N0X, no big surprise there, and yet most americans still think that a tiny car capable of over 100 MPG somehow isn't allowed into their country due to "high emissions" Bit of a joke really.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago 2
Diesel FTW....will Americans EVER learn?????
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tikimandude112 1 year ago
@tikimandude112 Completely incorrect. European cars emit 3 to 5 times less C02 than most US vehicles. Cats have been part of the regs for decades now. How wrong you are.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
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tikimandude112 1 year ago
@tikimandude112 Wrong again. Cats have been mandatory in this country for decades as i said before. The MPG tests are different in the US, and the US gallon is around 17% smaller too, that's why the figures are different. Also, the Mini you gave as an example, the UK one quoted is a diesel, i'm not sure they sell the diesel one in the US? 60% of all new cars are diesel now in Europe as they have higher efficiency and much lower emissions than petrol cars.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
Awesome footage. I got some good information on this from fasteconomicalcars (.) com
hurriedtempo481 1 year ago
@colbedsheets:
RE: pollution/population right you are, my apologies.
RE: US being the stongest, richest and most important country, doesn't China technically own you all now? I'm not saying I prefer China having the power, its a brutal regime, but hold the power they do. The technical superiority of your forces is insufficient to overcome the vast numerical advantage the Chinese have.
Unlucky.
evilamnesiac 1 year ago
@evilamnesiac
China doesn't own anything. just because they hold our debt means NOTHING. Anyone who knows anything about economics can tell you that. They still use OUR dollar for trading, so WE own THEM.
Over 78% of the world uses our dollar. And we can print as much as we want. So we are actually as rich as we want to be.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
Uh, I had a 1997-3 cylinder Geo- Metro, 5pd........a great little commuter car. If I drove carefully I could get 60 mpg, and this is without many of the newer fuel saving technologies (variable valve timing, auto shutdown at stop, ultra lean burn mode, gas direct injection to name a few). I could see a little car like the Geo getting close to 100 mpg with some reworking of the systems. Problem is that little car would cost 20 grand, would it even sell? maybe if gas goes to 5 bucks a gallon.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Yes, i have had 5 or 6 cars with 3 cylinder engines, very well balanced and fuel efficient. There are normal diesel cars here that, if driven sensibly, will do 126 MPG or maybe more. Fuel here is currently $8.51 a UK gallon, or $7 a US gallon.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U Yes, I think you guys have cars with engines as small as 600cc's? The trick with small engines is to make them with manual transmissions, a automatic transmission in one of these means no performance. In the United States Of Ameritard Subcompacts are a real hard sell, not much incentive for car companies to innovate. With advanced technology, such as variable displacement and auto shutoff at stops, you could easily get big mileage out of a subcompact. The hard thing is selling them.
tickyul 1 year ago
Does Europe have the same emission controls that the US does? I ask, because I've noticed that the European Smart car gets considerably better mileage than it's US counterpart... the only difference I can think of is the emission controls ?
eomaha 1 year ago
@eomaha Well, I drove a Smartcar with a automatic transmission, it was terribly unimpressive, paled in comparison to my 97, Metro. Could not tell you if US and European emissions are different, they might be, I think europe has a lot more diesel engines. Subcompact commuter cars could easily get 100mpg with the new technology available.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Europe has much stricter emissions, the cars here emit on average 3 to 5 times less! And in the USA they only test for N0X, not C02 like in Europe (even though a car that emits low C02 will have equaly low N0X as well)
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U Well, the USA has vehicles that are a lot cleaner than they were..even just ten years ago. I think the emssion standards get tighter year after year. Co2 is tested but not yet regulated, was not until recently considered a problem. The advent of Obd2 was a major breakthrough in both diagnostic capability and emission contol, this was mandated by the federal government. A bigger problem is the waste of fuel due to people driving cars that are too big for their needs, that won't change.
tickyul 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets
The USA has less than 5% of the worlds population, 6,872,000,000 people in the world, there are only 310,370,000 people in the USA. As for the superior fuel economy, most cars in Europe are smaller, lighter, with smaller engines and manual transmissions due the the layout of european roads and high petrol prices. the only way the USA will get close is by consumers buying smaller cars with manual transmissions.
evilamnesiac 1 year ago
@evilamnesiac Hehe, fat chance...unless gas gets up to 6 bucks a gallon on a regular basis. Ameritards are too lazy to drive manual transmissions, will make it too hard to text and drive.
tickyul 1 year ago
@evilamnesiac Fat chance, Ameritards will not for the most part buy subcompacts. I had a 97 Metro, a great little car with excellent handling and good performance partly due to it being a stick. If you buy a Subcompact with an automatic....forget about performance. I drove A Smartcar, what a piece of crap, poor handling and pathetic acceleration. A modernized Chevy, Metro could get 100Mpg, Ameritards would not buy it though.
tickyul 1 year ago
@evilamnesiac
At the end of the day the u.s. is the strongest, richest and most important country of the world. we are the boss. ahhhh it sure does feel good knowing you live in the richest and strongest country of the world......
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets "At the end of the day the US. is the strongest, richest and most important country of the world. we are the boss"
= So many things wrong with this. At the end of the day? You speak like there is no tomorrow?
Stongest, richest and most important? Go walk around parts of Detroit and see how rich & strong you are. Hurricane Katrina showed the World how strong and important American people are
The world is not fooled by the bubble of FEAR you people live in. Iran is better LOL
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69
so you're using a couple of run down u.s. cities to say that we aren't the strongest? LOL Even the strongest and richest country in the world will have slums you moron.
We are the richest. Case closed. We make $14.2 trillion a year which is over 2x more than 2nd place(china-and they have 4x more people)
We are the strongest country in the world because of our military. There is no arguing there.
And we are the most important because we control the world's money<--Just one example
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets USA is one extreme to the other. You have the World's wealthiest people living down the road from the World's poorest people. You offer under-educated children from broken families with no opportunities the chance to earn "good money" by invading and plundering other countries.
You have the highest consumption of Cocaine & Heroin on the planet and LA has over 16,000 street gangs.
You control the World's money? Are you a billionaire Jewish banker? No, YOU don't control SHIT
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69
"the world's poorest people"???
ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS???
Even our poorest of people get free food, free shelter, free health care, and many more things. So to compare our poorest people to say people in africa is absolutely comical.
I never said I control the world's money you clown. I said WE do, cause i was referring to my COUNTRY.
Highest consumption of cocaine and heroin? LOL And did you know the uk is right behind us in those statistics? YOU FAIL.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets "And did you know the uk is right behind us in those statistics?"
= Yes because our Governments work together to crush their respective citizens. They want citizens living in FEAR and incapable of making informed decisions. They want people using Wikipedia to do research.
Yes, the World's poorest people. 50 miles down the road from where I live, a 10 year old boy was found selling Heroin in a city called Swansea.
We wage wars to bring our "culture" to these places.
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69
Um i don't think herion selling will constitute being the poorest country. Jesus fucking christ.
So we have the poorest people? LOLOL
Our standard for "poverty" is much much much higher than any other country on earth. Get your fucking facts straight.
You moron conspiracy theorist piece of shit. We didn't create ww2. Just because we FUNDED the germans(before we knew about their atrocities) doesn't mean we CREATED the war.
Go take your conspiracy shit somewhere else.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets "Just because we FUNDED the germans(before we knew about their atrocities) doesn't mean we CREATED the war."
= Just because you funded terrorism doesn't mean you created the War on terror
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69
Ahhh here we go again with conspiracies.
We funded freedom fighters who were fighting off the soviets. They then TURNED on us. Everyone knows this. That doesn't mean we KNEW they were going to turn on us.
Yes, we do go into countries and remove/replace their leaders, but that is only cause we're the policeman of the world. Whether you like it or not, we are.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets
Iraq was invaded because of WMD's. That's a fucking conspiracy. Osama Bin Laden behind 9/11, that's another conspiracy.
The holocaust of Palestinians is happening today. Israel gets how much AID per year from USA????
You're the policemen of the World but I don't care because Im a drug dealer - that makes me free
69salford69 1 year ago
@69salford69
wow i could run circles around you in an argument of the whole 9/11 truth bullshit.
Yes, osama bin laden was behind the attacks. Case closed.
Holocaust of Palestinians? LOLOL Yeah and of course your always forgetting the horrific shit that the other side does to Israel. But i don't blame you cause you are just another dumbass conspiracy theorist who believes everything their favorite conspiracy nutjob tells them.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets And this has what to do with fuel economy may i ask? I'm not sure how a new country like the USA, only a few hundred years old manages to get itself in such trouble over everything! Some of the places it is at war with have history going back 7000 years.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
Sure, ok.
We don't have as much loooong history as other countries, but in the short few hundred years that we've been here, we have already established ourselves as the richest and most powerful country on earth. Pretty impressive if you ask me.
And BTW what is this -"
Fuel here is currently $8.51 a UK gallon, or $7 a US gallon"
Are you referring to the imported u.s. oil in the uk, or are you actually saying that our gas is $7 over here??? Cause if its the latter then your wrong
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Well this is what annoys me, how self proud Americans are. It's not that big a deal that a few imigrants migrated to America from places like Europe a few years ago. The first few hundred years of the USA's histroy is full of selfish, racist bloodshed. Even today they commit treason, war and murder on thousands of people every day, so maybe things havn't changed much? did you know 10 people are still killed every day in Vietnam by unexploded bombs dropped in the 60's?
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
who cares about the damn vietnamese. If you aren't American, then your life doesn't matter.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets I'm assuming that's a sarcastic comment?
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
Oh no that certainly isn't meant to be sarcastic. It is a well known fact that Americans are superior to any other country. Doesn't matter where your family ancestry is from, if you were born in America, then you are more important than everyone else.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Ok well that is obviously sarcastic, but you'd be surprised how many people in America believe that that is true!
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
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@coldbedsheets "If you aren't American, then your life doesn't matter."
= Im done with you.
69salford69 1 year ago
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@69salford69
The truth hurts doesn't it.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@69salford69
And btw you are wrong about the u.s. using more heroin. You should do better research next time. Iran is the highest user of opiates, and the uk actually uses more opiates than the u.s. YOU FAIL
(remove the space after the period)
wikipedia. org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_prevalence_of_opiates_use
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets
You talk about the "poor people of Africa" and how "we control the World's money"....that means you control the Worlds poverty. You control the World's wars. You control the number of displaced people who are refugees from Wars you fund. Britain did the same before America bought us out in WWII (which USA created)
69salford69 1 year ago
@evilamnesiac
Oh, and you clearly misread my comment, i said the u.s. has 20% of the world's POLLUTION not POPULATION.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
An electric car that charges exclusively with power from a conventional coal-fired power plant itill has a lower footprint than one with an internal combustion engine.
And that's before we get nuclear/renewables involved.
hagenar 1 year ago
@hagenar Well, in the United States Of Ameritard....don't look for ANY nuke plants to be built any time soon. I mean, every environmental group will do all in its power to stop this clean, safe form of energy from spreading. The lawyers have a huge hand in the way things work in this country.
tickyul 1 year ago
@tickyul Agreed. It's a shame that the green movement is so encumbered with this anti-nuke agenda. It's counterproductive to the goal of saving the world.
hagenar 1 year ago
@hagenar Well, they are also stopping the building of "clean" energy plants in the form of solar and wind, the litigation will never end. I think that a lot of Ameritards are really impractical in their thinking when it comes to energy, nothing is perfect......but, that is what a lot of Ameritard enviros want. When you live in a huge, modern society you are going to have some negative effect of the planet.........or you can have a society thrust back into the 18h century.
tickyul 1 year ago
Detroit should only build one car,and be ordered to build it the way as it is now without mods!
Google
from-canada-to-mexico-on-one-tank-of-diesel
(copy and paste it and dont remove the lines)
and click on jalopink result!
captinseperoth 1 year ago
we need to get some of the uk car to the USA thst would be great
oppy1989 1 year ago
hahah the tesla blows anything the brits have out of the water anyways.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets That's electric. All the cars quoted are petrol or diesel, no electrics or hybrids. Are you forgetting also where Telsla got the car from? Yep, the UK based Lotus Evora
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
We got the design of the tesla from the lotus, but the fact that its electric comes purely from the u.s., which is what matters.
The u.s. will be the first country to have a fully automatic sedan in commercial use.
And i was merely pointing out that the tesla is more fuel efficient than anything overseas.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Er when is this then? We already have many electric cars on the road, go to the big cities and the streets are lined with plug in points already. And i personaly think Electric only cars are worse for the environment than a petrol or diesel. Some normal European diesel cars do 126 MPG
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
I meant commercially electric SEDAN. Not those little boxes you call cars. Hell, we have those too. Im talking about actual SEDANS. And also we were the first to have a electric sportscar that goes 0-60 faster than some ferarris and lambo's.
Oh, and by the way, our new tesla model s SEDAN will essentially get over 300 mpg because it goes 300 miles without recharging, and to fully recharge it, it cost about one gallon of regular gas.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets You seem pretty passionate about this, but i'm afraid it doesn't interest me at all. Sure electric cars are popping up right left and centre, but it has nothing to do with saving the planet or fuel for that matter, it's just marketing at the end of the day. Technically a super car is still more efficient than any electric car. Go on ask my why!
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
You have to be INSANE to think that a super car is more efficient than an electric car!!!
Just because you burn coal to make electricity for the electric car doesn't mean its not good for the environment. In fact, less than 30% of the electricity in the world is made by burning fuel.
It has been estimated that even with using electricity obtained by burning coal for your electric car, you use 1/3rd the amount of fossil fuels as a PRIUS let alone a diesel
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets I see you have fell for the marketing then! What about the batteries that need replacing every 3 years, which are made from harmful chemicals drilled in poor countries (which cause acid rain and other pollution too) and are then flown around the world in various stages of refinement, before wareing out after 3 years and causing harmful waste too? And yes, the electric too, the USA gets 40% of it's electric from coal powered stations last time i checked.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
First of all, both the motors in the tesla sports car and the tesla sedan don't need replacing for 10 years, AND they don't have any dangerous chemicals in them. You can literally throw them in the trash(all though it isn't recommended)
And i never said that the u.s. got its power from 30% coal, i said the WORLD got its power from 30% coal.
And even with getting your electricity from coal power plants, if every one had an electric car, they would be putting 1/3rd of the fossil fuels as a prius.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Electric cars will take a long time to catch on. They've been in development for so long at such an expense that the purchase price will probably be stupid too. Then there's the embarasement as well, you'll never get respected in the same way as you would driving an exotic car. And why would you be interested anyway? Fuel is so cheap in the US, it would barely save you any money at all? I love the sound of Spots cars, the exhaust, the back fires when i change gear etc
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
So let me get this straight....you won't get an electric car cause you want respect? LOL thats not the point to having an electric car, its to help save the environment.
And even with the cheap gas in the u.s., electricity is 1/3rd as cheap. it cost about 10 cents to go a mile on gas and it cost about 3 cents to go on electric.
Oh, and the new electric tesla sedan will be about $50,000 which isn't bad being that its considered a luxury car.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Save the environment? Americans are so funny when it comes to this! It's like the oil spill, look how angry they are, the amount of oil that spilled in 3 to 4 months was the same that the US uses in 6 HOURS! Our Earth has been around for billions of years, human existance will be very short, a few thousand years only. It won't matter at all what happens to anything after a few million years will it? So enjoy it, lifes short, stop worrying. 1 car won't make a difference...
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U wow your ignorant. of course nothing will change when everyone has the same attitude as you. thats for sure. maybe you dont deserve to enjoy life, because in the long run your ruining it for your children, and their children. perhaps everyone who thinks like you should jump off of a cliff? then we might live a few thousand years longer :)
FlowVipTv 1 year ago
@FlowVipTv Don't get me wrong, i use to care intensely. But then i realised what a scam carbon taxes are. Like the 16 largest ships in the world, they create more pollution than every car in the world combined, but are exempt from carbon taxes, and they burn tar as fuel! Planes too, ONE flight emits the same amount of pollution as my car would in 20 YEARS, and yet i still have to pay a few hundred bucks every year for the tiny amount of pollution that comes out my car. It's all an excuse
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
lol First of all, sure, the same amount of oil that was spilled in the ocean is probably the same amount that we use in 6 hours, but there is a BIG difference. The difference is that ITS IN THE OCEAN. Geez anyone could figure that one out.
And sure, 1 car won't make a difference(duh) but if the whole population switched to electric then it WOULD make a difference.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Yep if the whole population switched to electric, the crisis would be even worse, no one can produce enough electric to supply every car, even if they could, if would kind of defeat the object of "clean" cars as the amount of pollution made to create the electric in the first place would be much higher than the small amount of carbon released from the clean cars of today. Remember USA = 5% of the Worlds population, but they create 25% of the Worlds pollution!
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
haha im sorry but you are being very ignorant. If the whole world switched to electric cars it would be a LOT better than our current reliance on foreign OIL. And it would force the governments to institutionalize hundreds of thousands if not millions of solar panels to increase our electricity reserves.
Trust me, depending on electricity is a LOT safer and cheaper than depending on oil, let alone FOREIGN oil
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets can i point out we cant just switch to electric like that, because we still dont have mass solor panels, so we'd still use the same amount of oil as we are now. And, we cannot create enough litium for cars in mass.
iwatchfunny 1 year ago
@D41H4T5U
And by the way, The u.s. has about 20% of the world's pollution not 25%. And that's because we are the largest industrialized country on earth. If the uk was as big and industrialized as us they would be just as pollutive.
And you are forgetting that there are many other ways of obtaining electricity than by burning coal. There's SOLAR PANELS. which are completely clean. If the whole world started building more solar panels it would be a lot cleaner
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Na, China, Taiwan places like that make the USA look like a tiny workshop in comparison, you need to get your facts right, there are plenty of other developing countries with far bigger industries that what's in the USA! And solar pannels, i've been to Florida 5 times, "the sunshine state" it seems Americans are so obsessed with making their houses look like a film set, they are refusing to use solar panels! I never saw 1 in Florida. Even we have sloar panneled street lights/signs
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets who gives a shit
drcheese42 1 year ago
@coldbedsheets Uh, yeah....and how much is that Tesla??? I mean, I would love to buy a practical electric car....but, I am a real cheapo, is there going to be a economy version of this car???
tickyul 1 year ago
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Don't know if there is going to be a cheaper version of the tesla, but the main reason why its so expensive is because there is such a small production of them. If there was a larger production scale of the teslas then the price would gradually go down.
But there is the tesla model s that will come out soon. it should start around 50 grand but you get alot for it. Its really cool, you should check it out on youtube. Its a fully electric sedan.
coldbedsheets 1 year ago
If all the US cars shown had diesel engines they would easily get 25-30 mpg more then the gas engines do. That's a big reason why our cars are so inefficient. Funny how the number one spot went to a diesel. Prius shouldn't be included in this list because of how environmentally damaging it is. 48mpg? My ass. I have an 06 Jetta TDI and get 43 city and anywhere from 50-55 on the highway which would be pretty low to European standards.
ElvenousAndrogynous 1 year ago
@ElvenousAndrogynous This video is quite old now. Recently a couple got 126 MPG in a normal diesel car. There are quite a few diesels on sale now that offer up to 85 MPG, i got 82 MPG in my old car.
D41H4T5U 1 year ago
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European cars are small and eco friendly cuz the eco law in europe is very strict. If you car emits a lot of CO2 (for example 201grams of CO2 per kilometer ) you will pay a freakin 450 Euros in a year, thats about 500 us dollars. That is a lot of money. The second reason is that big Suv are not practical in typical European city, cuz the streets are narrow. So Europeans buy small car that are very safe, practical and eco friendly. Also the diesel in Europe is cheaper than the petrol
MrGREED19 1 year ago
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MrGREED19 1 year ago
I have been looking for the most efficient autos available " key word " in the US. I have found that for a US offered diesel it would be a VW Golf 42HWY mpg, for a gas Toyota Prius 48HWY mpg, and for a suv it would be a Ford Escape at 34HWY mpg. The VW Golf Blue is another that is not for sale in the US. The Mahindra mid sized truck is now offered is the US clean diesel 30HWY mpg nice looking truck, but I have yet to see one on the road.
agatzki 2 years ago
I didn't include hybrids in the vid, just gas/diesel. US figures are always lower for 3 reasons, the US gallon is smaller, and they have different tests to those in the UK/Europe. The Golf Blue motion is probably one of the most economical cars around today with 83 UK MPG or 74 UK MPG average. The car i want is a Mercedes C-Class 2.1 Diesel, does 0-60 in 6.9 seconds and 67 UK MPG! Best of both!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
you could at least add metric liters/100km which is commonly used in europe.
korencek 2 years ago
Yes but this video compare US and UK cars which both use the MPG measurement!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Are these mpg figures the average mpg or the best possible? The seem pretty high.
cashw55 2 years ago
Best possible. A little outdated now, since the new Euro emission standards, there are cars that do more, VW Golf Blue motion for example does 83 MPG!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
For the difference in price at the very least $10,000 i can buy alot of Fuel for my gas guzzler. I do agree with the video, every car maker should offer diesel engine for the Expedition, Suburban, ect.
A car would be very hard for my family to use 5 of us and a trip to town to buy everyday goods, even the large SUV is often small feeling. When it is just my wife and I at home the smaller car would be a wise move.
agatzki 2 years ago
Well yea, but there are only large "gas guzzlers" in America, everywhere else in the World, people still have large families and travel large distances, yet we manage with much more efficient vehicles, not smaller, as i've said, you can have a large family car with more room than most American cars. The design of 90% of American cars is poor, large engine/transmission etc take up a lot of interior space. The cars i've owned in the past have more room than most American sedans.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
I'll take the size, I live in nowhere West Texas and have nothing smaller than an Exedition drive 70miles to get to town at 80mph average mpg of 14.5 love it HAVE CASH WILL TRAVEL !!!!!
agatzki 2 years ago
fair enough, but there are large executive cars like BMW, Audi VW etc, fast varients too that do 60 to 80 MPG, so why only drive a car that does 14.5?
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
US cars are bigger because we just don't like small cars. They weigh more because of stricter federal crash standards, and for some reason americans don't like the idea of diesel in anything but a huge truck. This isn't a mystery people. I'd rather get 30mpg in a V8 car that I love than 70mpg in a turd econobox.
justinl67 2 years ago
@justinl67 Actually you're very wrong, the crash standard in Europe are very strict indeed and take pedestrians into consideration too. Cars tend to be smaller, so crash standards need to be stricter, my tiny car has 7 airbags alone. Bigger is not better in a crash, it depends how you crash into what, at what speed of course. And "Turd Econobox" you think just because something does 70+ MPG it's crud? There are big and small cars here that do 60 to 120 MPG if you want...
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Reading comprehension 101. Not a turd because it gets 70MPG. It's a turd because it's a shell of car that needs 70MPG for anyone to even want it. The fact is also that any car imported to the states almost always ends up heavier because of federal regulations. Never said you didn't have strict law, states are just more strict. My original point was that a car should be about passion, not trying to save the whales one gallon at a time.
justinl67 2 years ago
@justinl67 The car market in Europe is different to the US, people are not as fat so cars are smaller, doesn't mean they're crap!? Aston Martin have just released a £30,000 small car, all the luxuries of an Aston, but in a smart car sized car. I don't get your point really, some of the cars featured in the video are the best selling cars in Europe/UK, how did it come to this if "nobody wants them"? Remember Europe produces nearly twice as many cars as the USA every year...
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Yeah, I remember the Aston very well. It was based off the Toyota iQ. Not bad for a small car considering all the refinements of an Aston with the fuel usage of a Prius. Besides, think about it. If the guy says that the U.S safety regulations are so strict, why is it that foreign markets tend to only advertise European safety standards on their cars? I'm not saying that the U.S safety regulations suck or anything, I just say that they are not as strict as the Europeans.
csihardfan111 2 years ago
If you weren't so narrow-minded your comprehension skills would skyrocket. Practically no one in America wants a car like that, and when they do, 50 percent want it so people will automatically know just how pretentious they are. Saw the Aston Martin about 3 weeks ago, fantastic idea...looks like ass. Congrats on your CONTINENT producing twice the amount of our country and good luck never realizing that two ends of the world vary in automotive taste and necessity.
justinl67 2 years ago
Pull your knickers out your ass, untwist them then fuck off! You're soooooooooooo boring. It's ok to feel jealous, just stop telling me!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Well up until this point you seemed mature, just ignorant...now we know you're 12 years old.
justinl67 2 years ago
Whatever you say buddy, it must be true....
Now what was your point again?
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
that sucks the uk are pretty lucky
dammyousuck 2 years ago
I love watching all these new commercial on fuel saving cars in the US. Only one problem I have with them I have been driving a car that get 35 miles a gallon for over 13 years now, my little 2.5l iron duke under the hood made in1984. So why should I buy a new car that gets less mpg ?
XXRedRavenXX 2 years ago
@XXRedRavenXX Yea but in Europe, cars that do 60+ MPG have existed since the 80's. 35 MPG is not quite as good as 126 MPG is it? That's what some couple got on a 3700 mile trip around the UK in a normal diesel hatchback! (google it!) My old car did 82 MPG but you had to drive it very slowly indeed...
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
@D41H4T5U Yes you make my point, they want to sell me something I already have. I am not saying my car gets great mpg but, here in the US this is good so what gives? How many years will people in this country put up with the lies.
XXRedRavenXX 2 years ago
@XXRedRavenXX I see what you mean, MPG standards have remained pretty much the same for the past 20 odd years in the states. It's only now we start to see alternative fuels being used such as hydrogen, electric etc. Gas/diesel will probably be exclusive fuels for industrial use only in a few decades and we'll all be whizzing round in electric cars!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Sadly, my only comment is two words:
Escalade-Hybrid (sigh)
Herboyjoe 2 years ago
this Martis has to be another stupid no brain gringo, not like us in the UK.
htalaver 2 years ago
What stops me from buying and driving an European car in the states though?
Glasseh 2 years ago
You could import one i suppose. Would have to be altered for US emission/safety regulations which are evidently not as strict as those in Europe!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
I wouldn't see a need for any kinds of alternations. Since if the cars have better emissions and safety regulations already, why change it?
Any changes would just be for the worse then.
Oh and if you were to compare cars from the States Vs. European ones. Try to keep Asian brands (Mazda to name one) out of the picture. Same with US and Euro. Ford is an American car.
Just saying :P
Glasseh 2 years ago
No you don't understand. They're not US or UK made cars, but cars available on the US and UK market. Otherwise, the UK would have 0 cars, as the only remaining UK car manufactures are small independent Sports car makers. Most of the good stuff comes from Europe and/or Asia. Same in the Sates i guess, how many of those top 20 are US brands? Not many at all!
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
As far as i can tell, the US keeps it's fuel cheap but keeps the consumers buying more of it by keeping MPG standards low. In Europe, fuel is 3 to 4 times dearer so there is a demand for smaller cars. And also the MPG/emission standards are so much higher in Europe. For example, some European cars only have an oil change every 30,000 miles! But in the US, people change their oil every 3000 to 5000 miles! And also, Europe's fuel is more refined giving less harmful pollutants, and more power.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Yes but what i meant was cars available in the UK market. Obviously there are hardly any UK manufactures left at all, all been bought by bigger firms.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Please rate this !!!!
We need to draw the attention of the mainstream American consumers, so they can start to demand this.
The ONLY reason these are not sold in America is that the Auto companies are fighting clean diesel and lobby for outrageous restrictions on air quality!!!!
There just as clean if not cleaner!!!
MrYoubrian 2 years ago
You're right, it's obviously a big scam, keep fuel cheap in the US but also keep developing cars that only do 20 MPG also?! A car that emits less C02 is obviously going to emit less N0X as well, why don't people get this?
20,000,000 barrels of oil are used every day in the US, that's a fifth of the entire Worlds oil consumed, and they are only 5% of the Worlds population!
Just recently a couple managed to get 126 MPG from a normal diesel hatchback over 3700 miles (google it)
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
wow MPG's 4 the US were much lower than those of the UK
DenisWasHere12 2 years ago
Sounds like you've only just realised! Did you hear about the couple who drove around the UK and got 126 MPG from a normal diesel hatchback over 3700 miles!?
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
its all horses for course if gas was cheaper here in the uk most people would like a bigger car
America has three grades of unleaded the cheap stuff being RON 88 and when prices went up last year Americas prices doubled to over 4$ a gallon where in the uk it went up by just an average £1,20 so they dont get it all easy,they just get hit harder when markets change,Kia honda and toyota are changing the market to more economical cars there
pitstop301 2 years ago
why can't we get these cars or these types of cars in america, the prius gets 50 buts it's ugly as hell, i would much rather these nice 60 to 80 mpg cars, our crossovers are getting at best 28 mpg, theirs are around 60, stop making hybrids and start making 80 mpg clean diesel cars
tountasakis1 2 years ago
I agree, small economical diesel's have always been popular since the late 80'2 early 90's in Europe, they never caught on in the US but fuel has always been cheap, they use this as an excuse to waste it and the government allows it as there is so little tax on fuel in the US, they encourage people to use more to make up for it. Fuel is around $6 to $7 a US gallon here at the moment, almost half the price it was around a year ago! Imagine a diesel hybrid?
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
actually, the new prius gets 50 mpg US.
but to be honest, what's the point of ultra-frugal cars when fuel is so cheap? it only costs me like $30 to fill up my car, so why shouldn't i drive a fun, fast car?
i think bmw's 335d is an exception. 0-60 in under 6 seconds, and 36 mpg on the highway. that's great.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
Fastest car around Top Gears track does 0-60 in 2.88 seconds and still does 30 to 40 MPG! My car does over 50 MPG and 0-60 in 7.8 seconds. My old car was slow but did 82 MPG, some cars do over 100 MPG
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
What car achieves 0-60 in 2.88 and returns 40 MPG? This I got to see!
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
Caterham R500 superlight. Only has a 2.0 litre engine but the thing is so light it returns great performance and economy. Small = light the key ingredient in a recipe for economy AND performance, hence why i always buy small cars! Take your average Lotus, very small and light 0-60 takes 4 or 5 seconds yet it will still do 50 MPG if driven sensibly as it only has a 1.8 litre engine! Makes sense to me, most car makes sacrifice economy for performance, but it's possible to have both.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
the caterham is not comparable to the cars in the video.
SebastianElf 2 years ago
Why not? I know people who use them daily on our roads.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Ford is the only domestic auto I would ever consider buying again. I do like the styling of the Fiat 500,I'll give you that.However, if Fiat comes to US and wants to prosper, they better not send us garbage like they did in the 70's.
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
..that is until they proved to be very reliable cars. Although they didn't stand up very well to Detroit iron at the time, they have made significant improvements that has made them very well respected automaker today in the US.
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
First of all, my info comes from extensive research thru many consumer tests, reviews from actual owners and mechanics with experience with VW.Secondly, not ALL americans are biased against economy cars. As far as American cars or cars sold in the US, Henry J was the first economy car built in 1950. Economy cars have always been controversial in the US primarily because of poor design and safety flaws. When Honda and Toyota showed up here in the 60's everyone giggled about their cars....
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
The concept of the TDI is great. However, the final product has proven to be much less than reliable. I,personally embrace the good intentions of VW to offer this green tecnology to the US. But what good does this do when the car is in need of frequent repairs. I'm not going to say American cars are any better, but if a vehicle can't serve it's basic pupose of providing reliable transportation, then all the green technology this car has is useless.
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
The Volkswagon Jetta TDI would be a great car if it didn't offer such horrible reliability.
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
in europe volkswagen is the pinnacle of reliability because the cars sold in europe are built in germany. for the american market, they're built in mexico. so of course they're less reliable in america.
they always do things like this to their american customers.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
I'll agree with you there, VW lost their reputation and US sales in the early 80's onward when they quit importing the Beetle and ceased production of the Rabbit,two of their most reliable US sold cars. My dad used to have a VW Rabbit diesel and that damn thing lasted forever and always returned 50 MPG easily.
CatalinaSafari73 2 years ago
yep. and today they're at it again, screwing the americans over. the MKVI golf gti in europe comes with adaptive chassis control, adaptive cruise control, a revised engine, and a new differential. well, i read an article recently, and the american market will see none of these upgrades. we'll just be getting a mkV golf in a fat suit.
and don't even get me started with the scirocco and phaeton not being sold here. or the lack of a manual or dsg in the passatt cc in america.
coolerdude44 2 years ago
Ok here is what I know. I gladly have a debate in this so feel free to reply.
1. European cars are mostly diesel therefore higher MPG output.. The (U.S.) Jetta does not output such a high MPG unless you have the diesel version. (Further proof?)
2. Safety and emission are much more strict in the U.S. A diesel BMW requires urea to reduce NOx emitions to be legal in certain states. The reason the diesel Mini won't come to the U.S. cause it failed the emission standards. Safety is more strict as wel
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago
1. Correct - diesel cars are more common in Europe 60% diesel 40% gas. This is mainly due to fuel prices (anything between $6 and $14 a US gallon) and carbon based taxes (the more you pollute, the more road tax you pay)
2. Safety/emission standards are just as high, if not higher here, the tests between the US and Europe are different and not compatible, hence all the confusion regarding safety/emissions etc. Here we test for C02 as it's believed to be the biggest contributor to global warming
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Aha I see. I guess you did a nice clip but you can't argue the fact they are much better because of different emission standards. NOx I believe is the cause of holes in the ozone layer, not global warming. (I might be wrong). The U.S. and Europe r focusing on different things and therefore the different MPG.
-Sorry for the American dickheads who cannot give a solid and peaceful argument. Too much patriotism. Can't blame them, it seems our government is purposely doing it for their own benefit
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago
No worries, there has always been so much confusion surrounding emission standards etc in the US/Europe. The emissions for diesel cars are obviously much lower, if you look at C02 emissions for a modern Euro diesel, it will be anything between 90 to 150 grams per kilometre, compare that to a gas Hummer which emits over 400 grams per kilometre! Shocking comparison. Obviously a car that emits this much C02 will emit excessive other pollutants too such as the N0X you refer too.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Ok c'mon you are talking about a Hummer. I see 1 Hummer every week. I am not defending that this country has better emissions overall but I am sure overall we emit less NOx then Europe.
c0nv1ct1337 2 years ago
I very much doubt it tbh. Overall emissions in Europe have only dropped 3% between 1990 and 2004, however the USA's rose by 16% for the same period. In the UK for the same period, they dropped by 58%! Europe is famous for it's emission standards etc, we have new ones coming into force soon, even stricter. On the reg documents of any car it displays the C02 output, but also the N0X output, i can check mine if you want, so you have something to compare it to?
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
"the USA's rose by 16%"
Thats not true.. You are an idiot..
MartinsBrew 2 years ago
Were the hell do you get your "facts" because the CO2 output in the US has drop 23% since hybrids in the US..
Thats all across the US, Cali had almost a 35% drop..
MartinsBrew 2 years ago
Can you read? they rose 16% between 1990 and 2004, there weren't many hybrids around in 2004, only in Japan mostly. And i said overall emissions, not transport, so that includes manufacturing/production/domestic etc too.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
2002 you idiot!!
MartinsBrew 2 years ago
Now if you look at the reall facts.. yes it did go up to 16% but thats 90-2002.. But hey you dont know shit in the frist place..
Last time I talk to you.. Have a good a life bitch tits..
MartinsBrew 2 years ago
I don't know shit in the first place? EXPLAIN NOW
My facts are correct, just because you're too fat and inbred to understand them, doesn't mean they're not true does it? Learn to type, learn to spell, learn to speak and ask questions properly in future and you won't look like such a retarded hill billy to other people.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
Won't you believe any of my facts? Don't you think i did the fucking research first to avoid dip shits like you? Go find some official government controlled sites, they spend millions every year paying scientists to compile the data, not me, we just have to believe them. I've told you where my facts are from, now fuck off and make your own mind up fool.
D41H4T5U 2 years ago
I have that why I call you a lier.. You are what you are..
MartinsBrew 2 years ago