I am so divided about this adaptation. On the one hand, Havisham's too young, Estella's not ladylike, Satis House is full of sunlight, and there's no humor. On the other hand, the acting in general is very good, the Gothic aspects are nicely realized, and it is visually and aurally beautiful. Gah.
@90lysander ....Havisham would've been circa 43 - 46 ...so Rampling is in fact too old !. Estella is not ladylike because she is not a lady.....the Havisham money was got by brewing beer...Estella is Magwitch's ( the convict at the start ) daughter.
it's funny... in the book there was always something almost comical about Mrs. Joe. And even in the movie, she's made to be a bit of a ham.. But seriously.. could you imagine being raised by such a person?
I can understand why they cut things out but why they change certain fundamental things, like having light come into her rooms but then have Pip say "She knows nothing of times." makes no sense. I like the younger Miss. Havisham, though I thought Joan Hickson was very good in the role too.
@LexiixoxRoxx Well, Dickens' Working Memorandum says that Herbert Pocket tells Pip at their dinner that Miss Havisham's incident happened "five and twenty years ago" and Pip's about 18 or 19 during that dinner, so the incident would've occurred about 6 to 7 years before Pip and Estella were born. And if you consider how old they are in this scene it wouldn't have been even NEARLY 40 years!
@HelenaKoonings ....25 years back...her wedding day was to be on her '' coming of age '' birthday - is that 18th or 21st birthday ? which makes Miss H 43 or 46 when Pip first met her.
@n0iwont Thanks for the reasoning re: Havisham's age. It makes sense. But I beg to differ when it comes to Estella. Dickens described her as "a young lady" on first appearance, not "a young hussy," which is how she is played here. She and Mrs. H are wealthy and certainly wish to be perceived as upper class, regardless of their origins. Their manners should contrast with the peasantry of Pip's acquaintance.
that room looks like an experiment of a modern artist ; D I've seen in an modern art museum a video of a basket with rotting fruits: you looked at some nicely arranged fruits and slowly they began to change in front of your eyes, shrinking, going mouldy, rotting away. in the end there was nearly nothing left than green-greyish powder and the sceletons of fruits... well, it's ugly but also kind of fascinating. seems like miss havisham is also becoming lesser and lesser...
She isn't as mean. Sure, she can be selfish and manipulative but she is nice in some parts too and they explain her story better. You'd realy have to read the book to find out. I read it last year and can't remember each detail. She was my favorite character, though. I found her quite pitiful.
@LexiixoxRoxx she's the female ebenezer scrooge. Not mean. Hurt. And isolated and able to be both of those things comfortably (rich). And years of hurt and isolation make you weird and twisted.
In those days a man or woman looking for a soulmate would not drop down to the local Manhattan or London Town bar to mingle as a single, no pc chats. Why "eccentric" when your chance has come and gone?She saw love as a sustaining life long journey and was not just jilted but her heart was locked up in that big house.Could be that "polite society" whispered behind her back and thought her to blame.John Lennon composed the song "Woman is nigger of the world".
@RasMajnouni Lennon was hardly qualified to comment on that subject due to his chauvinistic attitude and afffairs to women.
But not much has really changed these days in looking for a soulmate. It's the same now as it always has been, the woman sits back and waits, and she is almost every time approached at some point, hardly, ever the other way round.
She may have to wait, but her time comes, always has always will.
Unless of course they refuse, and that's down to them.
All those years he spent in The Forge gave Joe a heart of gold.
:)
MultiHydralisk 1 week ago in playlist More videos from LadyAmaltheaUnicorn
This is painful to watch....
KissesFromHeaven07 2 months ago
I am so divided about this adaptation. On the one hand, Havisham's too young, Estella's not ladylike, Satis House is full of sunlight, and there's no humor. On the other hand, the acting in general is very good, the Gothic aspects are nicely realized, and it is visually and aurally beautiful. Gah.
90lysander 3 months ago
@90lysander ....Havisham would've been circa 43 - 46 ...so Rampling is in fact too old !. Estella is not ladylike because she is not a lady.....the Havisham money was got by brewing beer...Estella is Magwitch's ( the convict at the start ) daughter.
n0iwont 1 month ago
the sister is a REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAL bitch, isnt she?
babeeshopiez123 3 months ago
argh there's not meant to be ANY SUNLIGHT.....
polkadotpolka123 4 months ago 2
Havisham really is a confused person.
TheAsharedhett 6 months ago
What a creepy movie! I hope it gets better than this
galinkame 10 months ago
Miss Havisham isn't ugly. Does anyone else think that??
samluvzcc 11 months ago 2
ew maggots in the food! This woman needs help and love for sure!
toplaycool21 1 year ago 2
you could go to hell?!?!
BabiAusten 1 year ago
it's funny... in the book there was always something almost comical about Mrs. Joe. And even in the movie, she's made to be a bit of a ham.. But seriously.. could you imagine being raised by such a person?
FlyTheObserver 1 year ago
Eww....
SmooshFish 1 year ago
I can understand why they cut things out but why they change certain fundamental things, like having light come into her rooms but then have Pip say "She knows nothing of times." makes no sense. I like the younger Miss. Havisham, though I thought Joan Hickson was very good in the role too.
Haerton 1 year ago
If the food is that old surely it would be dried out and not maggotty by this time?
gertrudewhite 2 years ago
@gertrudewhite I agree. That cake should have crumbled to dust years before.
faeryquene 2 months ago
for some reason i can't get this section of the video to work :(
ilovethereds3 2 years ago
Just keep refreshing the page until it does, this happens on Youtube quite often
LadyAmaltheaUnicorn 2 years ago
when i want to see your videos i can't beause the page keeps refreshing a lot :s
poly306 2 years ago
fuck Mrs Joe. that woman's a bitch
bleep111 2 years ago
How the heck is that cake still standing upright?!
How many years ago was she supposed to get married? :O
HelenaKoonings 2 years ago 2
at least 40 years ago. shes supposed to be about 62 towards the end and she mustve been engaged sometime at 20 years.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
@LexiixoxRoxx Well, Dickens' Working Memorandum says that Herbert Pocket tells Pip at their dinner that Miss Havisham's incident happened "five and twenty years ago" and Pip's about 18 or 19 during that dinner, so the incident would've occurred about 6 to 7 years before Pip and Estella were born. And if you consider how old they are in this scene it wouldn't have been even NEARLY 40 years!
ANorthernSong 1 year ago 2
@HelenaKoonings Going by Dickens' Working Memorandum, one can figure abooooouuuttt... between 13 and 15 years ago by this scene?
ANorthernSong 1 year ago
@HelenaKoonings ....25 years back...her wedding day was to be on her '' coming of age '' birthday - is that 18th or 21st birthday ? which makes Miss H 43 or 46 when Pip first met her.
n0iwont 1 month ago
@n0iwont Thanks for the reasoning re: Havisham's age. It makes sense. But I beg to differ when it comes to Estella. Dickens described her as "a young lady" on first appearance, not "a young hussy," which is how she is played here. She and Mrs. H are wealthy and certainly wish to be perceived as upper class, regardless of their origins. Their manners should contrast with the peasantry of Pip's acquaintance.
90lysander 1 month ago
im lost is she just going chapter by chapter on her videos or just continous?!?!
3DDYR 2 years ago
All wonderful-looking. But wouldn't there be a track worn through the debris on the floor?
nokomarie1963 2 years ago
that room looks like an experiment of a modern artist ; D I've seen in an modern art museum a video of a basket with rotting fruits: you looked at some nicely arranged fruits and slowly they began to change in front of your eyes, shrinking, going mouldy, rotting away. in the end there was nearly nothing left than green-greyish powder and the sceletons of fruits... well, it's ugly but also kind of fascinating. seems like miss havisham is also becoming lesser and lesser...
moonstruckfaye 2 years ago
I feel sorry for miss havisham what the boyfriend did was really low
wawinani 2 years ago 18
I agreee. I thought she was much more sympathetic in the book, though.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
what do you mean whith "more sympathetic"??
poly306 2 years ago
She isn't as mean. Sure, she can be selfish and manipulative but she is nice in some parts too and they explain her story better. You'd realy have to read the book to find out. I read it last year and can't remember each detail. She was my favorite character, though. I found her quite pitiful.
LexiixoxRoxx 2 years ago
@LexiixoxRoxx she's the female ebenezer scrooge. Not mean. Hurt. And isolated and able to be both of those things comfortably (rich). And years of hurt and isolation make you weird and twisted.
FlyTheObserver 1 year ago 3
I wished I was as free as Miss Havisham who has not got any livelyhood, but is always rich and rich.
goodluckpeace44 2 years ago
Does the book ever say why here finance dumped her? I forgot.
aimei21 2 years ago
I guess Compeyson just took her money and ran. Besides, he was already married.
goddessartemisx3 2 years ago
Compeyson ( financially ) ruined Miss Havisham's brother Arthur, too.
constansavictrix 2 years ago
Well She has had everything in their since her wedding day, like 20 years ago I think, she's eccentric
saimfarseer 2 years ago
In those days a man or woman looking for a soulmate would not drop down to the local Manhattan or London Town bar to mingle as a single, no pc chats. Why "eccentric" when your chance has come and gone?She saw love as a sustaining life long journey and was not just jilted but her heart was locked up in that big house.Could be that "polite society" whispered behind her back and thought her to blame.John Lennon composed the song "Woman is nigger of the world".
RasMajnouni 2 years ago 13
@RasMajnouni Lennon was hardly qualified to comment on that subject due to his chauvinistic attitude and afffairs to women.
But not much has really changed these days in looking for a soulmate. It's the same now as it always has been, the woman sits back and waits, and she is almost every time approached at some point, hardly, ever the other way round.
She may have to wait, but her time comes, always has always will.
Unless of course they refuse, and that's down to them.
Woodlander65 1 year ago
she comapres her wedding cake to a dead body. You see if you opened a coffin, you might ask your friend, "do you recognize who this is?"
very nice metaphor
goodluckpeace44 2 years ago
i like john. he's nice.
CaptainJenna7 2 years ago
Thanks for downloading the movie, it helped me in my test!!!
Zuzy510 2 years ago
Okay, the maggoty fruit was really gross. What is UP with this house?
stinkeepumpkin 3 years ago