I would have really liked to see the pictures from this session. Get back with me if you can. I am going to NYI Photography school, and very interested in the subject. What kind of Photographer are you?
Keep in mind that this in regards to the blue background setup in the beginning. Notice on the white the subject was pull away a bit maybe 5ft from background and not like the blue were the subject was 1ft or 2ft from background. That light setup was most likely very flat though. Simple straight forward "Safe" lighting for those first learning. Subject can move around and nothing has to be worried about. More dramatic light is more harder for those starting out. The subject moves so will the lig
You just wrote all of that for nothing. You are trying to prove me wrong but offer no intelligent answer. Your post are full of rubish. I never said that the little softbox would cancel out any shadows, What I said is that it was set up high and aimed low so therefore the shadow that it did create would be low on the background behind the model and therefore would not show up in a head shot or a 3/4. Just so you know I understand Fall of quite well and I also understand what fill and main are.
Also Here is something for you to study in your first "Real world" in person class for lighting when you find a teacher willing to put up with your stuburn butt.. Have him teach you what "Fall off" is.. What a Main light is and what really actually is fill light and how fill light really works. Once that happens if it does you wont even need the lesson on why the subject should not be so close to the background.
Man I dont mean to slam you but your stepping into it big time. Take this advice seriously take some in person lighting classes from a actual full time working pro that has been at it for years a "Commercial" shooter. He will physically show you how light works and is shaped. You benefit from it by far more than reading some forum.. or book. You will never grow as a shooter if you do not do this or open your ears. Your ego will stop you in your tracks because no one can teach you anything.
Maybe they wanted to get a hint of High Key in there. Like I said to the guy below you can not discredit someone just because they do things differently.
I doubt that someone would "Purposely" put lights that close to get "Cross Lighting" shadows on a background. Nor for "High Key" which that is not here in this set up. IT has nothing to do with "Different" Thats as if the answer to a bad lighting and bad photos would to be to say "Oh Its just different"... Sorry that isnt an answer.
First of the two large softboxes are on either side therefore they will not throw any shadows on the background and second the fill light which is the smaller softbox directly in front of the model will eliminate any shadows and the shadow created by it will be low on the background hidden by the model since the light is high and pointed downward. I never said "High Key" is said a "Hint of High Key" which by High Key definition is present here. And yes its different. People chose their way.
Senciz: stop now before you embarass your self even more.. I been at this for a living full time for 17years. The mere fact how you describe fill light tells me you know nothing about lighting other than what you "Think" have learned about it in a forum or book. Your statement above "second the fill light which is the smaller softbox directly in front of the model will eliminate any shadows" is downright incorrect.. So please stop already your embarrassing yourself
Actually im correct on this one pal. The smaller softbox is aimed between her and the white sheet on the floor so they feathered the light and bounced some off the sheet on the floor so they ARE using it as a fill. I am not discrediting your "17 years" but you telling people that they MUST have their subject 5ft away from the background is down right STUPID. The truth is there is no right or wrong. It is a bit harder like that but a person with a small space might npt have a choice.
The light is bouncing? Oh my god please stop already.. You seriously need some hands on in person real world lighting lessons not from some book. Oh man how I would love to show you in front of a class of 30 people how you are so inexperienced! To do it visually inperson no tricks. Let alone the fact you say the "fill" light will get rid of shadows on the background. If it did it wouldnt be fill light! it would be a main. Please speak your grand knowledge at a class so the whole group can giggle
Oh ignorance is bliss they say. Please by all means speak your grand wisdom of "Experience" of what you "Think is bounce" light is OR better yet what is on one hand called fill light but yet can cancel the shadows on the background?. If it cancelled it out it would have to be as bright as the other lights thus making it a Main light instead. If you spoke this nonsense to others at a seminar with working "Experienced" shooters you would be laughed at or even shown live with lights how silly you
Finally someone that is giving instruction is using decent lights for a change as well as some nice modifiers. Photoflex.. One thing I would have to tell you guys please keep your subjects off the background dont put subjects so close to the background. Your light is spilling all over the background.. No need to have them that close 3ft is way to close. puts some separation to your background at least 5ft.
Maybe they wanted to have those lights fall on the background on purpose to have it lit. People choose to use different approaches to their photography. You can not discredit someone because they do something different than you.
just a bunch of people taking pictures? Where is the lighting comments? I only heard someone talking about a fan. A bunch of women laughing, was this a training course?? Really not that helpful, sorry better luck next time.
Millions of dollars in photography equipment? Come on my friend that is to much with a millions of dollars I just go to invest that money in the Wall street but.. I think, the point is if each person make the same quality of photo even with a 35mm film in a (carton box) that is fine!.. Now I'm thinking to buy the Nikon D3 body so that is fine to me. Have a nice hollydays merrychristmas and a happy new year 2008.
the setup you used at first wasn't really great, it's too much light from all directions i gues. nothing dramatic. they're all from the sides, not taking angles either .. i wonder how those photos came out.
I agree with snapfactory to show always the shots to the model or the person involve to feel secure. But I think is better for show just a few shots because you can save more energy battery that you dont let the LCD screen of the camera turn on every shot you take to show it. and if you are not using a battery grip it is gone like nothing.
I shoot with a 5D [and my old Digital REBEL frmo time to time] and at most have to change the battery inside the camera once during a 3-4 hour shoot. SO uh... maybe less "point-shoot-photoshop" and more using the brain? No offense, but really... not everyone needs a battery grip. The PWs already add bulk to a camera.
Thanks foto101 but I think que tratas de impresionar o dartela de muy modesto, soberbio no se pero no sabes bajo que condicones labora cada fotografo en su ambiente de trabajo en fin te felicito por tu inteligencia creo que puedo aprender algop de ti! So...
I have no idea what your saying since I spek english. *shrug* But I do think I have an obligation to direct people in the right direction. If they find they need a battery grip they will seek one out, but I don't usually try to give other people the idea that they should buy a million dollars worth of equipment to do the job a simple setup can achieve.
An advise for begginers, never show photos during the photo session, not a good idea, even if you are not thinking of postprocessing it is always better to show them after the session not during....
great video! It was very insightful.
Snakekilla12 1 year ago
so the pics?
gatomalparido 2 years ago
HI..What is those things on top of the camera? i dun know what that name..
Awang808 2 years ago
pocket wizard
JoelCuongVanDahl 2 years ago
@Awang808 trigger
gatomalparido 2 years ago
I would have really liked to see the pictures from this session. Get back with me if you can. I am going to NYI Photography school, and very interested in the subject. What kind of Photographer are you?
Poohcifer 2 years ago
hey that woman is pregnant
alimagics 2 years ago
why do i have this feeling that canon photographers look against nikon photographers just like advanced amateurs? :D
bigspagetti 2 years ago
haha.. wow.. this comment thread is a hoot!
geowulf 2 years ago
Could u tell me which brand are your lights?
panchoskywalker 3 years ago
@panchoskywalker Profoto soft box. - Ai Miami student.
iCALEBORiCUA 1 year ago
Keep in mind that this in regards to the blue background setup in the beginning. Notice on the white the subject was pull away a bit maybe 5ft from background and not like the blue were the subject was 1ft or 2ft from background. That light setup was most likely very flat though. Simple straight forward "Safe" lighting for those first learning. Subject can move around and nothing has to be worried about. More dramatic light is more harder for those starting out. The subject moves so will the lig
rmstudio 3 years ago
You just wrote all of that for nothing. You are trying to prove me wrong but offer no intelligent answer. Your post are full of rubish. I never said that the little softbox would cancel out any shadows, What I said is that it was set up high and aimed low so therefore the shadow that it did create would be low on the background behind the model and therefore would not show up in a head shot or a 3/4. Just so you know I understand Fall of quite well and I also understand what fill and main are.
senciz 3 years ago
Also Here is something for you to study in your first "Real world" in person class for lighting when you find a teacher willing to put up with your stuburn butt.. Have him teach you what "Fall off" is.. What a Main light is and what really actually is fill light and how fill light really works. Once that happens if it does you wont even need the lesson on why the subject should not be so close to the background.
rmstudio 3 years ago
Man I dont mean to slam you but your stepping into it big time. Take this advice seriously take some in person lighting classes from a actual full time working pro that has been at it for years a "Commercial" shooter. He will physically show you how light works and is shaped. You benefit from it by far more than reading some forum.. or book. You will never grow as a shooter if you do not do this or open your ears. Your ego will stop you in your tracks because no one can teach you anything.
rmstudio 3 years ago
Why would you use such a lens in a studio?!
OdinofWei 3 years ago
Can we all say, at once? "Lighting Overkill!" Their photography instructor should be fired!
Gissur33 3 years ago
Maybe they wanted to get a hint of High Key in there. Like I said to the guy below you can not discredit someone just because they do things differently.
senciz 3 years ago
I doubt that someone would "Purposely" put lights that close to get "Cross Lighting" shadows on a background. Nor for "High Key" which that is not here in this set up. IT has nothing to do with "Different" Thats as if the answer to a bad lighting and bad photos would to be to say "Oh Its just different"... Sorry that isnt an answer.
rmstudio 3 years ago
First of the two large softboxes are on either side therefore they will not throw any shadows on the background and second the fill light which is the smaller softbox directly in front of the model will eliminate any shadows and the shadow created by it will be low on the background hidden by the model since the light is high and pointed downward. I never said "High Key" is said a "Hint of High Key" which by High Key definition is present here. And yes its different. People chose their way.
senciz 3 years ago
Senciz: stop now before you embarass your self even more.. I been at this for a living full time for 17years. The mere fact how you describe fill light tells me you know nothing about lighting other than what you "Think" have learned about it in a forum or book. Your statement above "second the fill light which is the smaller softbox directly in front of the model will eliminate any shadows" is downright incorrect.. So please stop already your embarrassing yourself
rmstudio 3 years ago
Actually im correct on this one pal. The smaller softbox is aimed between her and the white sheet on the floor so they feathered the light and bounced some off the sheet on the floor so they ARE using it as a fill. I am not discrediting your "17 years" but you telling people that they MUST have their subject 5ft away from the background is down right STUPID. The truth is there is no right or wrong. It is a bit harder like that but a person with a small space might npt have a choice.
senciz 3 years ago
The light is bouncing? Oh my god please stop already.. You seriously need some hands on in person real world lighting lessons not from some book. Oh man how I would love to show you in front of a class of 30 people how you are so inexperienced! To do it visually inperson no tricks. Let alone the fact you say the "fill" light will get rid of shadows on the background. If it did it wouldnt be fill light! it would be a main. Please speak your grand knowledge at a class so the whole group can giggle
rmstudio 3 years ago
Oh ignorance is bliss they say. Please by all means speak your grand wisdom of "Experience" of what you "Think is bounce" light is OR better yet what is on one hand called fill light but yet can cancel the shadows on the background?. If it cancelled it out it would have to be as bright as the other lights thus making it a Main light instead. If you spoke this nonsense to others at a seminar with working "Experienced" shooters you would be laughed at or even shown live with lights how silly you
rmstudio 3 years ago
Finally someone that is giving instruction is using decent lights for a change as well as some nice modifiers. Photoflex.. One thing I would have to tell you guys please keep your subjects off the background dont put subjects so close to the background. Your light is spilling all over the background.. No need to have them that close 3ft is way to close. puts some separation to your background at least 5ft.
rmstudio 3 years ago
Maybe they wanted to have those lights fall on the background on purpose to have it lit. People choose to use different approaches to their photography. You can not discredit someone because they do something different than you.
senciz 3 years ago
The title is soooooo mis-leading!! Behind the scene is no way 101, ok?
770827 3 years ago
More like Pointless Clips 101.
ufo8mycat 3 years ago
what a waste of time
glennbisdee 3 years ago
just a bunch of people taking pictures? Where is the lighting comments? I only heard someone talking about a fan. A bunch of women laughing, was this a training course?? Really not that helpful, sorry better luck next time.
translationstogo 4 years ago 8
@translationstogo this was NOT an instructional course. didn't you read the title? it says NOT INSTRUCTIONAL.
ashkibala1 7 months ago
Very useful. thankz.
velu66 4 years ago
What does the final photo look like? Just wasted space on YouTube without the results. Some people just have no common sense!
KittyBuddha 4 years ago
nice video but picture results at the end would have been nice..
thedogsteacher 4 years ago
Millions of dollars in photography equipment? Come on my friend that is to much with a millions of dollars I just go to invest that money in the Wall street but.. I think, the point is if each person make the same quality of photo even with a 35mm film in a (carton box) that is fine!.. Now I'm thinking to buy the Nikon D3 body so that is fine to me. Have a nice hollydays merrychristmas and a happy new year 2008.
meetcreativity 4 years ago
Great job guys. Thanks for showing a behind the scenes.
Jazzff1 4 years ago
beginners... crap vid
haloagency 4 years ago
look at all the shadows in the background. it definitely needs work
dmband7 4 years ago
the setup you used at first wasn't really great, it's too much light from all directions i gues. nothing dramatic. they're all from the sides, not taking angles either .. i wonder how those photos came out.
maxmap 4 years ago
Do you understand the deference between f-stops?
One light will be a couple of stops lower or higher as needed. Don't comment unless you know what your talking about...lol.
Jazzff1 4 years ago
I agree with snapfactory to show always the shots to the model or the person involve to feel secure. But I think is better for show just a few shots because you can save more energy battery that you dont let the LCD screen of the camera turn on every shot you take to show it. and if you are not using a battery grip it is gone like nothing.
meetcreativity 4 years ago
I shoot with a 5D [and my old Digital REBEL frmo time to time] and at most have to change the battery inside the camera once during a 3-4 hour shoot. SO uh... maybe less "point-shoot-photoshop" and more using the brain? No offense, but really... not everyone needs a battery grip. The PWs already add bulk to a camera.
foto101 4 years ago
Thanks foto101 but I think que tratas de impresionar o dartela de muy modesto, soberbio no se pero no sabes bajo que condicones labora cada fotografo en su ambiente de trabajo en fin te felicito por tu inteligencia creo que puedo aprender algop de ti! So...
meetcreativity 4 years ago
I have no idea what your saying since I spek english. *shrug* But I do think I have an obligation to direct people in the right direction. If they find they need a battery grip they will seek one out, but I don't usually try to give other people the idea that they should buy a million dollars worth of equipment to do the job a simple setup can achieve.
foto101 4 years ago
useless
skysiz 4 years ago
wish you share about the gear on the studio..thanks
oevt 4 years ago
Check out my channel. I go into a lot of detail about the gear. Check out episode 4 (all 3 parts).
snapfactory 4 years ago
What would be the reason for softboxes not serving double duty by turning a little more towards bluescreen? ...were the shadows desired?
candnrg 4 years ago
An advise for begginers, never show photos during the photo session, not a good idea, even if you are not thinking of postprocessing it is always better to show them after the session not during....
shagures 4 years ago
I disagree. :) Showing a good shot to a model helps her understand what you are doing and also helps him/her feel more confident.
snapfactory 4 years ago
Is this called 'split lighting? when 2 softboxes are on the side?
Debbi
DebbiinCalifornia 4 years ago
Oh, Luka is adorable!
ngothyeaun 4 years ago
QUESTION !!!!!
If they have 3 sources of light, why did they use flash? I want answers!
locolopelocolope 4 years ago
Why wouldn't you use flash? I think I'm misunderstanding your question.
snapfactory 4 years ago
Umm..why is this called studio lighting 101 if no lighting technique is discussed and no photo examples were shown?
poodledoo62 4 years ago
Good point poodle. It's just a video of one of our studio lighting 101 workshops. I'll be posting some of the techniques with examples very soon.
snapfactory 4 years ago
We like this video a lot!
PhotoLightingSchool 4 years ago