Evolution of the wahhabiyyah from Ibn Taymiyya

[always001]

MashaAllah nice video, indefence of Ahle Sunnat, wish I could understand it, wish it was or had english subtitles, or w=was in urdu .

[cloudyseal]

قال ابن حجر الهيثمي في الفتاوى الحديثية ص203 (وإياك أن تصغي إلى ما في كتب ابن تيمية وتلميذه ابن القيم الجوزية وغيرهما ، ممن اتخذ إلـهه هواه وأضلّه الله على علم وختم على سمعه وقلبه وجعل على بصره غشاوة فمن يهديه من بعد الله ).

[eltiempo2020]

Good video, except for the Urdu-Arabic thing. That Urdu accent killed the Hadith......

[naz23252325]

Ibn Taymiyyaah came way before Muhammad Ibn Abdul Wahhab

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

it is ramadan. ill be back after ramadan inshallah.

first of all try refuting the hadiths i have put up. i have many to post , and this is among them . so be prepared.

[summerguy99]

Of course am prepared , come up wid your videos

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

done

[summerguy99]

Irfaanee vaa kshanikkunooo veendum orkutileekku

Ithu kondu vaa ennituu eee paranchaa vykathiyudee oroooo vishadeekaranam ghandikkum insha Allah

Iyaaal Vishadeekaranathil kallam parayukayaanu

Insha Allah athu theliyikkum

Dhairam undenkil veendum vaa orkutileeekku

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

And of course dont forget the main point of this video, which is the evolution of wahhabiya(18th century) from ibn taymiyya (7th century)

[banjarq]

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[summerguy99]

Again based on the evidence from Sayf ibn Umar

Other than that no one has reported that it is Sayf, its based on this report even if it is mentioned it has been written

And Haythami himself has told that Sayf is Zindeeque

Hafidh Askalaaani has told again abt Sayf as the same thing

Wat they were talking does not confirm rather its tthe opinion based on the report of Sayf that it is Sahaba and that person itslf is not trust worthy

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

and asqalani in fath ul bari after quoting the hadith of malik ad dar has identified that the rajlun was a sahabi .

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

check the more info section of this video for more info on sayf

[summerguy99]

Who is considereed reliable and what

You are mixing hadiths so that you can prove your point

The hadiths Says Jaa A Rajulu fil Kabri

Who is dat with authentic source you havent proved as yet

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

the identification of who the man was , is a historical clue.

sayf as ibn hajr said was in the Taqrib: "Da`if fil-hadith, `umdatun fil-tarikh,"Meaning: "Weak in Hadith, a PILLAR in HISTORY.."

ibn hajr al asqalani and ibn hajr haythami are among the ones who identifoes him. dont consider ur self to be more knowledgble then them.

[summerguy99]

now you have mentioned someone is considered reliable and eminently reliable

can you tell me who are you referring to ??

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

i have attached two links on the more info section of this video. check it.

[summerguy99]

Irfan

The hadith says Jaa Rajulun , A man had come , which cannot be taken as a proof to go to Kabr and do this

Then who reported this is again as you mentioned Sayf ibn Umar , who says its a Sahabi

If a drunkard or a mad man come and does something it cannot be taken as an authentic source

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

the man is identifies as bilal ibn harith by ibn hajr ala asqalani in fath ul bari and ibn hajr al haythami in jawhar al munazzam

[summerguy99]

Irfaneee , Ahmedee , ethu aaraaa report cheytheehnnu ariyaamoooo????/ Saif enna Zindiqqaaayaa aayaa manushyan

Athu aaraa paranchathennu ariyamoooo????// athu ningalude thanne Kitabul Ghunyat corrupted aannenu parachaaa Ibn Hajr HaythamiMajmul Zawaahidilum Pinnee paranchatu Hafidh Mundhiriyude Athargeebu wa tharheebilum

Kalla Haddethaanennu paranchatuu shafi fiqhile pandithanmaar thanneyaanu , pinee enthinaa eee kalla hadith veendum vayikkunnathu

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

1) you have missed the whole point of the video. its about how the wahabi beliefs differs from Ibn Taymiyya.

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

2)sayf Ibn Umer is weak in hadith ? YES !

but is sayf narrating the hadith ? NO !

Sayf only identifies who the man was i.e the sahabi Bilal Ibn Harith al-Muzani

and that is a historical clue.

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

he is considered not only reliable but "eminently reliable" in history, as shown by Ibn Hajar's grading in the Taqrib: "Da`if fil-hadith, `umdatun fil-tarikh,"Meaning: "Weak in Hadith, a PILLAR in HISTORY.." notwithstanding the acrimonious dissent of Shu`ayb al-Arna'ut and Bashshar `Awwad Ma`ruf in their Tahrir al-Taqrib.

[IrfanIbnIsmail]

Indeed, he a primary source for al-Tabari in his Tarikh, Ibn Hajar in his Isaba, and Ibn Kathir in his Bidaya while Ibn `Abd al-Barr cites him in al-Isti`ab as does al-Sakhawi in Fath al-Mughith. Even al-Dhahabi cites him often in his Tarikh al-Islam.