Noam Chomsky - Q&A @ Sussex University (1)

[annoloki]

Anyone who thinks that 9/11 was needed to go to war in Iraq etc is a little naive really... Bush would've gone to war with Iraq without 9/11 just fine, perhaps even more easily as there wouldn't've already been a war going on in Afganistan. The US didn't need to fake some attack to go to war with Libya, or be issuing drone attacks against Pakistan, Yemen, Somalia. Not even Congress stops the president from going to war. They don't need a false flag!

[winston2015]

911 truth does NOT say the 'government' did it but that individuals in positions of power must have been involved. And the evidence for this is massively overwhelming..

So unless Chomsky is suggesting the laws of physics were suspended for that day then it must have been explosives that were responsible for wtc 1,2,&7 These were not just terrorist attacks The invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan were made possible by 9/11! why the hell does Chomsky ignore the obvious? well, it happened My chomsky

[DINGLEtheBERRY]

well we know who this poindexter is working for. chompskey my ass. what a fucking smokescreen. shaaaaaaaaaat aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap

[WTCnucleardemolition]

Google "9/11 Nukes - Radiation-induced cancers"

[Grensinlos]

Question to the Readers on this post:

If the Governemnt did take action to stop the plot/ use the knowledge to stop the 911 attacks, would that be considered Neo-Conservative, just like Bush's rhetoric was considered-the whole stop a attack with a preemptive strike.

[stoprainingonme]

@Grensinlos The Left would have criticised it and the Right would have indorsed it. Whatever the evidence that's how each faction would have responded. Thinking people (who, in my opinion, don't usually fall into either category) would have been more favourable to it than say the Iraq invasion, or any other of America's preemptive strikes. Very interesting question though. Anyway, Bush's administration probably would have botched it whoever ligitimate the purpose.

[Grensinlos]

@stoprainingonme Although i agree with your analysis on the reaction, i dont agree with you about the terms left and right. I consider myself to be part of the left although (not democrat or anything like that.. ) but just to clarify i mean left in the derridean sense more than the linear analogy used in america.

but yeah, fuck the bush admin

[SomeUsefulVids]

The important issues are issues like going around tearing up any country you feel like, destroying property, careers, families and installing rulers that will perpetuate further misery whilst serving outside interests and western investment.

I sometimes I think these juvenile conspiracy theorists are actually perpetuated with encouragement from the elite to serve the purpose of being a meaningless distraction for the young from the real issue.

[archeronthehill]

You're on to something. For about three years now it's looked to me that the '9/11 was an inside job' cult belief-system has been manufactured and sustained to distract the gullible and ignorant from engaging in anything important or real.

Chomsky himself has said elsewhere that it wouldn't surprise him if 30 years from now we discover that the conspiracies about 9/11 demolitions etc. were being 'fed' by psi-ops. Wouldn't surprise me either. In fact, I am certain of it.

[IExposeMormonism]

Looks like Noam is not linguistically proficient in the truth. 911 was an inside job and a media job. we were fed some false video. You'd think he would look at the physics involved and resolve it with his LAD device.

[gunthaarz]

640 architects have joined the truth movement. check ae911truth in google. try to Google patriotsquestion911 , they have some 370 professors who have joined. I dont know how many pilotsfor911truth org has, but they have documented a lot of errors. google them. Steven jones has published papers that ARE peer reviewed and several other professors have verified him independently. Do your homework chomsky. Research it!

[bryansail33]

Chomsky is not above making logic errors as indicated by his 911 assessment. In fact, he relies on implausibility mainly, which is a lazy, not scientific and very imprecise argument. It is the same meme that is very pervasive in the U.S. currently. Too hard for our Govt. to do, they can't keep a secret or do anything right. It is NOT based on the blocking of data from every single report forwarded to the public. ...just a bit of a red flag.

[ToKnowAndBeKnown]

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[bryansail33]

No Dotty because those Countries haven't been removing Governments and funding insurgencies and hiring hitmen to assasinate for the last 50 years. Chomsky sometimes gets it right, but on 911 he shoots wide. The involvement of members of our Government in events that day are likely based simply upon the blocking of data in the Government construction of events that day.

[DottyWang]

There are some strange and unexplained facts and few of us are competent to make a decision. What interests me is that so many people believe it likely the US government would do such a thing. Would they expect that of, say, Norway or Singapore or New Zealand?

[pkunzipstardotstar]

A States power is constrained by it's size.

[pugcasso]

When I look at the history of humans I see people in power (kings , queens, emperors, etc...) causing a huge assortment of violent events using poor common "pawns" to fight their battles for their gain. The 'Americas' is a prime example of a vast area totally taken over with horrendous violence in just a handful of centuries. We must really ask, have people in power changed since those days? We must also even constructively question people like Chompsky which he would agree with ;-)

[pugcasso]

I don't think the idea of controlled demolition should be so easily disregarded without thoroughly looking into it. From videos I've seen by architect Richard Gage, he does present data and investigation that should be investigated. Some footage showing floors in one tower above the aircraft damaged section collapsing first as the top is falling before the lower taller section of tower starts collapsing are very odd.

architects engineers 911 truth

watch?v=rW6Oez7pag0

[chavdar1925]

happy is he who call him self murderous turk, turkish, history is full of genocide, killing, and torturing, I read turkish history found nothing but genocide against armenians, barbaric killing of bulgarians, greeks, cypriots, serbians and kurds

[deadlaughter2]

I thought Happy was a golfing hockey player who can't ice skate.

[amet1980]

assyrians,arabs,albanians...

[ZiONLY]

Precise analysis.

[bryansail33]

Chomsky's comments actually reflect that he isn't interested in looking into 911 more than

anything else and that he can rely on his abilities to assess the situation without examining it closely. Sounds exquisitely "precise" indeed, lol.

[bootleg42]

Chomsky, as usual, challenges power and uses logic at the same time.

[historywillabsolve]

Chomsky is right as usual

[BooBooLane]

Moslem immigration to the U.S. increased by nearly 300% after 1993, ditto 2001 to the point at which we have approx. 10,000,000 in the U.S. today. So, in that regard, N/C (No Credibility) is right.

[caseykenjiro50]

Thermite? Come on. Did you hear any explosions from this supposed thermite? If you knew the planes were going to hit, why would you bother putting thermite in too? The planes weren't enough of a message? Or why not just thermite and no planes? Much easier to coordinate. And what if the people rebelled in one of the twin tower planes? Then you got to remove all that thermite don't you?

[ImaginationBlue]

Because it wouldn't be enough to bring down the towers. They were built to withstand a hit like that. Might have come down, might not. You wouldn't have to worry about people rebelling if you planned that in advance. Remember, we don't even know for sure which planes hit. No reason to assume it was the ones they tell us.

[Pilot1Engineer]

I cannot believe those facts escaped you, you are too smart for this Chomsky.

Besides, if you acknowledge that the government stood by to watch 911 happen, would be impossible to believe then, with the suggested "circumstantial" evidence that they may have orchestrated 911, particularly when you stated that "protecting their civilians is not a priority for them".

[volvol1]

Excellent analysis. Very impressive.

[gloryoski]

I also don't get the part about the Saudis being "endangered" by the hijackers being/being "made" Saudis, if Bushco never planned to attack them. After all, they are the "dangerers" in this whole fiasco. Not like racist individuals from US/Europe were going to attack the whole country of Saudi Arabia. Nor would other Arab/Muslim countries, on that pretext (9/11).

[gloryoski]

Ok, someone tell me why this is stupid. Seriously, I am new to this (and don't plan to be old to it if I can help it). And my inclination is to believe Noam.

Why couldn't the reason that they implicated mostly Saudis and no Iraquis be that their elites are in kahoots with ours and so they were given a heads up and did not challenge the hijacker ids? Whereas the Iraqui government, intellectuals, journalists from there might have done.

[ImaginationBlue]

Noam's assertion, that you can't learn enough about physics and engineering to make a credible case on this by researching for an hour on the internet, seems a bit elitist to me, and what's more, misses another crucial point: there are professors within the establishment he speaks of that absolutely believe the buildings were brought down by controlled demolition. Thermite.

[gloryoski]

Names?

[j11j11j11j11]

well he's right though. but i don't think that's an edorsement of deferring to eliteness really. it just so happens that civil engineering is complicated and requires lots of study to be deeply understood.

[ImaginationBlue]

Yes I don't know why Noam misses the boat on this one. He's such a proponent of science... well the science is patently way off in the official account. The molten steel 4 weeks later; the collapse of wtc 7; the free fall speed, etc. Science cannot prove what happened, but it can establish that the official explanation is shit.

[peterghiz73]

Chomsky seems way off in his approach to the possibility of US Government involvement. The evidence we do have, at the very least, leads us to certain questions... controlled demo? building 7? No evidence of a plane or bodies at the pentagon? Norad napping? These are REAL questions. If you love being Americans them embrace these trivial things and demand a real investigation.

[Lunis]

He did answer that. If someone wanted to really provide evidence about building 7 for example, submit to an engineering scientific journal.

And like Chomsky said, no one has yet to submit one because the people that believe in these conspiracy theories don't have the slightest clue about the science behind it.

[peterghiz73]

Submit to an engineering scientific journal? I'm curious what that might possibly prove?

If you can put a few sentences together, that peak my interest. I'd be willing to do a little more research on this "Conspiracy" issue.

[Lunis]

I think your confused to what a scientific journal actually is. It's the way academia reports research. So say a Physics professor at Harvard has been doing research on a certain topic, the way he reports his research is sending it to a peer reviewed scientific journal. All other physicists read the journal and review his findings. This is how consensus in science is achieved.

[Lunis]

So the point Chomsky was making is that if someone was serious about trying to prove that the planes hitting the two building couldn't have brought them down they would submit their research to a scientific journal, in this case an Engineering journal because an things such as building collapses is their specialty. And like he said, there has not been one submission let alone anything published.

[peterghiz73]

Lunis, I understand where you're comming from. I was being facetiuos whn I asked what a scientific journal submission by anyone might prove. I was once employed by a large British insurance Co.. RSA, and I worked at their head office in Toronto. I worked in the Engineering Underwriting dept. I've been to the Underwriters Labratories.

[peterghiz73]

I know the following to be a fact (First hand).... the steel in those buildings should still be structurally sound... but instead it's gone. All scientists know this. Chomsky is a tool.. in many ways. WHO CARES he says.... I hate those words.

[peterghiz73]

I know the following to be a fact (First hand).... the steel in those buildings should still be structurally sound... but instead it's gone. All scientists know this. Chomsky is a tool.. in many ways. WHO CARES he says.... I hate those words.

[peterghiz73]

I hate the thought that humans at the top of the food chain are secretly manipulating humanity towards their desired will. But there it is for all to see. This "top of the food chain" phenomenon is now evident to many.

[peterghiz73]

My view now is that muslim terrorists flew planes into the Twin Towers, Bush and his inner circle allowed it, even enabled it to happen, then with demo explosives ready to go in advance, they shot the whole ceremonious thing off, including building 7 for some OBVIOUSLY odd reason. And everybody freaked right on cue. Enact the laws we need in the aftermath, attack Iraq, and much much more, and humanity suffers still... even more. It'sa pyramid scheem.

[moggydave]

I would think Chomsky has watched Loose Change.

When I watched Loose Change I did temporarily believe that 911 was an inside job but after taking a step back and looking at more evidence (Loose Change has MANY flaws) I don't believe it anymore. 9/11 was a terrorist job, but there are unanswered questions.

[jbrownil]

Don't want to sound like you have hysterical obsession with the 9/11 conspiracy by belittling one of the great minds of the world? Accuse him of not reviewing the evidence or say he's on some groups payroll! Sorry, I'm part of the conspiracy - that's why I said that.

[BrickSalad]

I think there actually have been some peer reviewed papers on the 9/11, although I don't know if they were published in peer reviewed journels. There are plenty of professors who believe 9/11 was an inside job, including Steven Jones, for example. I do think it is a somewhat credible theory, although I agree with him that circumstantial evidence doesn't cut it.

[nbrownlaw94]

The perpetrators of 9-11were Cossacks using technology acquired from freemasons. They put all of the passengers on an intergalactic fairy ship and sent them to Narnia. Any objective observer knows the planes were camouflaged Vulcan ships in cloak mode driven by Jews fueled with Palestinian children's blood, thus able to stay awake longer for their return flight to Elvisland where they celebrated with their military-industrial, rightwing, death mongers who killed both Kennedys. Isn't it obvious?

[jbrownil]

hahahaha. I agree. Alex Jones told me so...

[peterghiz73]

Your question is... Isn't it obvious?

My answer is... I hate the thought that humans at the top of the food chain are secretly manipulating humanity towards their desired will. But there it is for all to see. This phenomenon is now evident to many.

[peterghiz73]

My Question/s to you... Why be such an Anti-Conspiracy Nutjob? Do you deny my "Top of the food chain" point? Do you deny that humans CONSPIRE at all? Have you never even thought of the definition of the word CONSPIRE, or which men might be in a position to conspire.... have you?

[tre70808]

Chomsky WOULD AGREE if he reviewed the evidence. I refuse to believe that he watched Loose Change, Zeitgeist, etc. I think he is just banking on the fact that the 911 conspiracy is far-fetched (which it is), but that doesn't mean it didn't happen. THE US GOV CERTAINLY BLEW DOWN THOSE BUILDINGS! I love Chomsky, but I think he is too cocky to review the evidence and face up that he might be totally wrong.

[djdeli777]

do you really think that with all the research he does he hasn't watched all if not more than you have, but he does make sense for me the evidence that the twin towers has many holes(not saying its not true but a lot of holes) i wish the 9/11 truth movement would just focus on 1 aspect cause if they can prove to the masses that one aspect is wrong then. I wish the 9/11 truth would focus on the pentagon that is the most easily provable.

[tre70808]

Chomsky is always talking about all this being "meaningless", and "instantly dismissing it". Also imagine HOW MANY PEOPLE probably come up to this dude with their ridiculous conspiracy theories. If I were him I too would probably be turned-off to conspiracy theories... Everybody thinks he is a "jew-co-conspirator", and maybe they're right. But I think the MORE LIKELY explanation is that he's just too damn arrogant to review the evidence....

911 was an inside job...

[jbrownil]

He has reviewed the evidence and has said so openly. He thinks the official explanation is more credible, as do I. I've never seen a single convincing piece of evidence -- other than the circumstantial -- that merits acceptance of the theory. The problem with the conspiracy movement is that they lambast anyone who isn't in fanatical agreement. Which, ironically, is one of the main reason very few take them serious.

[EdZep123]

Looks like he's an interrogation room. Couldn't Sussex University do any better? :) I think he gives a very balanced response. I'm fairly sure that Bush knew about it. I don't think Al-Qaeda was acting alone, if it *was* them.

[Internationalen]

Let's hope he lives forever. The world needs Chomsky.

[unixaaron]

Noam chomski works for the freaking republicans. obv.

[Henriquecas]

Isn´t Chomski an anarchyst?

Don´t bullshit a bullshiter!

[immanent]

Whoah, thanks for uploading this. This is the 2nd time I've heard Chomsky speak on 9/11. I think he's spot on, although I'm not sure scientific journals have the balls to take on some of these issues for fear of attacks on their credibility by the propagandists.

[KentAllard]

I seem to recall it was a scientific journal that published a report calculating 655,000 Iraqis had died since the invasion & occupation in 2003

[ginganz13]

Scientific journals usually deal with subjects much more specific than say 9/11 or any part of it. They more usually deal with very specific phenomena - 9/11 is a whole universe of subjects by comparison to their usual studies.

[immanent]

True enough.  And sad to think our only other alternatives were Bush-crony appointees in the 9/11 commission and managing editor(?) of Popular Mechanics (a Chertoff no less!)

[Xenu]

He wasn't related to Bush's Chertoff. That's just a conspiracists myth' as if it would make much of a difference.

[immanent]

Its my understanding that Benjamin Chertoff is cousin of Michael Chertoff. Sure, technically it means nothing, but no single fact taken alone means much. Its about the larger picture ... the pattern if you will.

[Xenu]

He's not his cousin. The PM Chertoff was asked or I believe his mother was asked whether there was any relation to which he replied something to the extent of "no, unless we're distant cousins or something." The conspiracy theorists ran with this and started proclaiming they were cousins.

[immanent]

Well fine, but after a bit of research, it seems possible there are connections to the Minsk Chertoffs and they could be 3rd or 4th cousins. In that echelon of society, nepotism can reach very far. The idea that new investigations should go forward is still supportable IMO.

[archeronthehill]

Engineering journals would deal precisely with a subject such as a building collapse. Many papers from professional engineers about the twin towers collapsing have been submitted and published, discussing how buildings in the future might be designed better to prevent a recurrence.

None have ever been submitted for proper peer review explaining how 'demolitions' or 'thermite' might be responsible. Why? Brcause it's bollocks, and they would be taken apart by professionals who know better.

[okayillgonow]

It is strange how Steven Jones talks about finding sulfur and iron at the WTC, yet does not illustrate thermite/thermate's main byproducts: aluminum oxide and barium nitrate.

[KentAllard]

they've used far more mundane justifications for all their other invasions and occupations ever since 1899, never resorted to anything like september 11th, no need to

[deadlychickenxop]

what like world war one, which apparently started because ONE duke was assainated ?  Go watch Robert Newmans history of oil ;)

[KentAllard]

Europe had been ratcheting up to the brink of war for years before that, a disaster waiting to happen with the slightest provocation. The current situation with Iran is a good example of it occuring again, Cuba 1962 is another, and both cases represent(ed) a very real threat to the survival of the species

[deadlychickenxop]

lol yeah what with all those WMD's they could have taken out teh entire west .... why didn't they ? makes you wonder doesn't it.