I don't think that's a real trick because when the guy went to sit down that cards were taken out of our view for a good 5 seconds. So that's not even magic. They should have had to do the trick were the we could see the cards at all times. And I think the guy lied when he said they didn't switch them.
@peffep Nope, they just added cards, hence the part 'oh, these aren't famous, let's throw those away', which were the shuffled cards he wouldn't be able to guess. It is also why he said 'every card he shuffled was in his hand in the order he shuffled them', he just forgot to say 'we skipped those and added others in our own order for ease of 'guessing', though'.
Personally I thought that there were 2 different buttons on the gun one that fired one did not or that for legal reasons it just can't fire when its at his hand because there is no pressure on the nail ....
They did add cards..the skinny guy uses word play when asked about a deck switch..he says "the cards are in the order Jonathan Ross shuffled them" and when asked if something was done during the time Jonathan shuffled to when Jonathan sat down he responded by saying "we did not switch out the cards Jonathan shuffled"
Nail guns need to be pressed right up against a surface in order to fire the nail. They're designed this way so that you can't fire nails around like bullets out of a normal gun. So when puts it on his hand it doesn't create enough pressure for the nail to come out. Notice that he fires and never actually touches the table with the gun when the nail "should have" come out into the table.
Theres two 'buttons' on the nail gun they used. One button on the back of the handle feeds the nail into the chamber and the trigger releases compressed air to shoot it out.
As for the card trick I'm pretty sure these guys have practiced doing this act for a fuck of a long time and memorized certain hand signals and facial expressions to match each picture. Pretty sure they didn't switch the deck.
i see how the nail gun is done. you never see the top of the board clearly but the nails are already in there just "disguised". the nail gun has a magnet at the top and when Penn presses down on the board it brings one of the nails up. there is real compressed air firing to make the sound but there are no nails coming out of the gun.
@matendo37 so your first of all saying that he would not be able to do it if you stood infront of him? and would not jonathan see the nails when they carry the board up? sure he can be acting, but that dousnt sound as Penn and Teller. Also, logically, if the nails already where in the wood and where pulled out they had to be put in the straight downwards, but many of the nails he pulls up end up tilting sideways which points out that he hits the wood from a tilting angle.
Note that Penn never disengages the safety when the gun contacts "flesh" (both his and Teller's), as he never presses the gun hard enough into "flesh" to cause the tip of the gun to become depressed and travel far enough for the safety to become disengaged and thereby fire the nail. I am an amateur magician, but was a professional framer and used these guns to fire thousands and thousands of nails while building houses. I was not "fooled" by this one.
@josephsisson but when he made that '' mistake'' he did press the wood at the same pressure as anyother in the wood so i not entirely sure about that been true
@htklsl The "mistake" is an illusion from a master illusionist. Again a nail will be fired only when the tip of the gun is depressed AND the trigger is pulled. Again the trigger can be held in advance of the "bump" or pulled after the tip of the gun has been depressed. Look again at Penn's so called mistake. Penn creates the illusion of a mistake (misfire) by making the gun misfire by not causing the tip of the gun to be depressed at the same time that the trigger is pulled.
As Penn has stated, magicians who do magic tricks which involve the possibility of real danger to the magician(s) or participant are "immoral". Rest assured Penn is not immoral in this act as there is no real danger here. A nail can be fired in two ways. 1 Hold the trigger and "bump" the gun into the wood. 2 Press the gun into the wood and hold then press the trigger. The gun will fire a nail only when the "tip" of the gun has been depressed and "travels" to disengage the safety. Note that...
If it was a simple memory trick (adding cards to the top and bottom) like a lot of people are suggesting, then how did they guarantee that Jonathan would cut the cards in the right place 4:10 ? Magic tricks can't rely on guess work otherwise they would go horribly wrong at least 50% of the time.
@soulsanctuarymusic1 I was being nice. You don't get the trick. So don't worry about. 2 people have fully explained it to you and you still don't get it. That's fine. Be mystified.
@jrkfacedkiller Yes I know, Jonathan cuts them, my question was if Johnathan cuts them there is a risk of the trick going wrong, how do they overcome that risk if it was just a simple memory trick?
it's kind of a shame that you can easily see through the nail gun trick if you've ever actually used a nail gun, but it's the presentation that makes it hilarious.
It's established the guy on the right added cards tot he top and bottom of the deck. How they SHOULD have done the trick would have been for the guy on the left to memorize 52 different subtle cues from the guy on the right and actually use the shuffled deck. A lot more preparation, but a MUCH better trick.
the cards 'John mixed' where in the right order he mixed but all they did were add cards top and bottom which the other has learnt. the cards chucked aaway where the ones john shuffeled
he didnt switch the deck, BUT he added some cards on top and on the bottom. the cards he gets rid of, are the cards that was REALLY shuffled. DONE, you can sleep peacefully now
I really like the philosophy of Penn and Teller about it being morally wrong to use dangerous tricks, unless of course the danger itself is just an illusion. And the way they emphasize it via air gun trick. Love those guys.
Watch the fingers of West when the cards are drawn. Too bad they cut the action of when Jonathan draws cards himself, at some point you can see West's fingers stick out his fist.
@CRSVARGAS I don't think so. I think he added cards to the bottom of the deck. The cards on top were the ones that the host shuffled. The reason he knew them were the hand signals on the left hand. If you watch it again, keep your eye on the guy that is standing, there is a distinctive position of his hand for each card. That is, until he throws out the cards becuase of 'time' and then gets to the loaded deck which he had memorized.
@valleyman008 i think there is 2 triggers ,1 that makes the sound and one that fires the nail. i worked with nail guns for years its definately the gun. even the expressed air with out the nail can hurt your skin .
My amateur suggestion for how this trick is done: shorty is giving facial expressions to fatty that key him on the card's identity. Subtle changes, blinks, whatever. These guys rehearse the thing all the time, so of course they could learn to pick up on impossibly tiny cues.
The main problem with these shows is the camera is always showing one angle or another instead of being able to see what you want. The trick somehow centers on the dude standing next to Jonathan. He’s somehow sending a signal, most likely a combo of verbal and body language to let the other guy know what card is shown. If I could see an angle that showed him through the entire trick I could tell you exactly what hes doing.
People who are saying the nail gun is actually loaded should probably reconsider. Even if you knew the safety feature actually worked, why would you chance it anyway? What I found wonky was the way the nails appeared on the table. Almost as if they sprung to the occasion. Hint hint.
Properly designed safeties can be 100% reliable, but that would still leave issues such as flying splinters, that are part of the "normal operation" of a nail gun. Anyway, the trick they used is pretty old (it's how most knife throwers do their act), and you can actually see how it works just by paying attention to the video.
@Rotten730 - Many (though definitely not all) industrial tools have "100% reliable" safety mechanisms, in the sense that they need very deliberate actions in order to work, actions that are (by design) rendered physically impossible as a consequence of component failure. That still leaves operator error, of course, but that applies to any object (if you stick a pen into someone's eye, you'll probably blind him, but that doesn't mean the pen is dangerous when used to write).
2:08-2:10 you can see the switch he does behind the view of J.Ross, they outright lied and hope Penn had a look at the footage afterwards and cancelled their trip.
@411smiths - I don't think there is a deck switch. They simply added a few cards to the bottom of the deck for the part of the trick that can't rely on hand signals (the fast bit at the end). The rest, as has been pointed out, is trivial to do with hand signals and code words. The add-on is indeed "ugly" and obvious, but it isn't a deck switch, so they were technically telling the truth. Overall a pretty boring trick.
Obviously some sort of signal. His left hand looks very suspicious as he shows the card. It could have been done a number very unimpressive of ways...
nvm, after looking at he whole vid, they just added the cards, why he just threw away a bunch of cards on the middle and why the blue book thing actually has the place to hold cards
wow this was horrible. The small guy whos not cutting the silouette, his left hand (the one not holding the card) was constantly in different positions. If you look at his fingers hes giving a subtle sign.
fixed, the guy said 'vera lynn' before johnathon even looked at the last card... fakes should of gone to jail let alone vegas... and that guy did add to the deck and also give hand signals it was all terrible just wannabe derren browns.....
A mixture of signalling with fingers etc for the slow cards. But for the faster ones they were added to the "deck" when penn thought there was a deck switch. As the cards aren't a tradintional deck of cards they can get away with adding new cards.
Nailgun: If I'm correct that simply relies on a mechanical safety interlock in the nailgun. Just pressing the trigger only does the air burst. The nose has to be depressed as well as the trigger in order for a nail to fire. Press it hard enough into someone's neck, and fire, and it could give a much different result. So the nail string is actually full at all times.
@19RedLineR74 that was my first guess, but i really dont think thats the trick, cause it would still be too dangerous and they wouldnt put it on life organs
at 2:58 he's still signalling Ginger Rogers. At 2:59-3:00 you can clearly see the sudden change in signal by the hand in his jacket pocket. If that was just more subtle, it would've been grand. From there you just keep checking the signals.
Count the fingers of the guy revealing the cards. It changes constantly. I guess also there is some other change, e.g. weight on foot or direction of view.
I am too lazy to look, anyone else notice he said "I'll put THESE down," when he only apparently puts the book down? Something fishy, he may be no linguist, but I am no magician so I will just say something is awry. I also thought he switched the deck.
2:06 is the 'sneaky' moment I believe Penn was referring to. The magician is completely blocked by the assistant, plus his hand gets very close to some pockets as well as other things.
In richard feyman's (physicist) book he talks about magic for a chapter. He mentions this very trick. It's as old as these guys are trying to be. Easy as pie. Surprised that p&t didn't get it. I actually don't believe they didn't get it... they probably just liked this act and wanted it to go to vegas.
Well.. the Pen and teller trick is actualy not even a trick.. The nailgun has a safty on it. You would have to press down the tip to a certan point before the nail shoots. If you dont. there is only air coining out... Gz
I dont know about you guys, but i believe that everytime he tries to guess a card west changes the position of his hands on his pockets, maybe because of that the other one knows wich card it is.
2:09 you can see he's behind the back and exchanging the decks. Then as he bends over you can see his hand going into his stomach and exchanging the deck. For the deck cutting he is trained to take out a specific number of cards. They obviously have rehearsed this before and when the deck is diminished to more its basically guessing from there because the percentage of the guess goes from 25% right to 50/50 as there are little amount of cards. I believe these people lied to get into vegas...
nail guns don't shoot unless they have a lot of force on the end right? if you notice when he "forgets" a nail he pulls the trigger while it's above the board.
Penn and teller swear they do not approve of doing tricks.. that even if performed wrong.. could do harm to a person.. they consider it immoral. I doubt there is any way the gun is set up to shoot a nail in his hand.
watch his left hand in his waist coat. it changes with every card call, i believe he is using his hands to signal his partner. actually both his hands change.
At 2:08 you can clearly see the skinny guy waits for the host to walk in front of him, and does some suspicious shit with his hands. Penn even moves his head to see it better.
It was so easy, watch how he holds the cards in front of the volunteer, his fingers are signing what card he holds up, the bunch he throws away is preset so they only need a limited number of signs.
@jeffms2 from where penn and teller are sitting the host is blocking there view of his fingers on his waist so that contributed to fooling them. i still cant see how he was signaling when the partner he clasped his hands together towards in the end.
@MissiveCauseIMissYou This is so easy too, the nails only come out when the tip of the gun is depressed. The clear proof...look how many nails are on the table and compare it to the size of the chamber, there were no gaps in the nail string, the only thing Penn memorized was the number of nails the gun could hold.
They added a deck of cards on top of the ones John "Shuffled" ... Thats why they could say there was no "Switch" and the "All the cards John shuffled were in his hand in the order he shuffled them" ... yes under what they placed on top.
1- the guy who was standing next to Jonathan could see the cards and signal to his partner a code that corresponded to the silhouette.
I assume that Penn and Teller were looking for this. If so, the other possibility was that the guy standing next to Jonathan was signaling his partner electronically using his shoe as a switch or something. Unless I missed something, he could see the cards at all times.
it wasn't a deck switch, it was a deck add. he added the bottom half, so he could recite the bottom half after being given the Shirley temple audio que. the first part was also done on audio cue, with all of the cards being sorted audio categories. ie this, that, person, one, just, think. a really incredible memory feat.
There's some fishy editing around 4:28, based on how he's holding the cards and the number of cards left, but it may not have affected the trick and could just be done for illustrative purposes for the home audience's benefit.
I don't think doing a trick that is so lame that it can be faked in a dozen ways, then having Penn and Teller guess the wrong one, should count as fooling them.
At first the guy holding the card indicates what it is with his left hand. Then he puts new cards on bottom in a memorized order and removes the shuffled cards "to save time".
Notice how at 2:08 he waits for Jonathan to walk in front of him, he then makes a move behind him. I'm quite sure it was a deckswitch, you can also see Penn suspecting the deckswitch as he looks and leans over.
Victorian dudes trick: Listen to what they say. Think of this PERSON. Think of this ONE. Think of THAT one. JUST think of this person. I also don't think there was a full deck switch just a partial onto the bottom of the deck, then the guy signals how many cards are left at the end to be guessed.
@bertt646 All perfectly explained, until the end... when Ross is holding up multiple cards at a time, from the middle of his remaining pile, with no audio cue from the guy behind him.
@orcodrilo Exactly, they have a way of communication, why would the partner handle the cards otherwise, it could be left heel up, right toe up, vice versa, blink right eye (eye away from crowd) once. twice so on, smile, grin, head movements, its actually an old trick, used with plants and with out. Even the way he holds the card. with 3 or 2 or 1 fingers on the back.
i've worked with nail guns, you have to press against the tip for the nail to come out. so if he doesn't apply any pressure to the nozzle with his hand, no nail will come out no matter how many times he presses the trigger. no memorizations, just the safety feature that comes with all nail guns.
@SomethingRules exactly! there's another episode where he calls an audience member up to check something cause he says that the rest of the audience doesn't trust him cause he's a liar! meaning that he's not gonna really tell how a trick is done.
A lot of comments missed the point. Penn takes great care to express how they never do a trick that could go wrong and harm someone. This could absolutely be a lie, misdirection to make a trick seem more complicated than simply "it's an industrial-safety nailgun. duh." BUT if it isn't a lie, then that nailgun isn't a nailgun, nails aren't coming out of it and the entire prop, Penn's talk and gesture, is all there to hide the nails being pushed up from the bottom. Or magnets. That's all I got.
i think there wasnt and deck switch. i think the guy guessing the cards just have a very good eyesight and could identifiy the silhouettes by looking into jonathans eyes and identifiying the reflection of the card.
The device penn uses is not under pressure. The nails he 'fires' all merely fall out of it, and whenever a nail comes out of the device he noticeably has to give it a nudge first. Actual pressurized nail guns instantaneously hit a wood beam 15 feet away, if you have ever seen that you notice the difference at first glance.
I saw a similar trick to the vintage guys one on TV some time ago. They use a code of phrases to communicate which card is being shown, eg "Think of this one" means Lincoln, "How about this one" means Marie Curie and so on including changes in inflection and gesticulation. The psychic in this act could do it with his eyes closed.
I think teller got a cimmic behind his back wich makes the sound of the gun if he presses it. That means Penn never has to fire the gun in his hand. The noise makes you think he is firing it, same with his finger moving still doesn't say he actually fired the gun.
Like he said no danger involved if he never fires the gun, no memorie but a trick
Fuck these cunts. So unenjoyable to watch.
ghjkilm 2 hours ago in playlist Uploaded videos
teller never showed his hands in the last stappler trick, probably hold the triggher himself.
quezcatol 7 hours ago
I don't think that's a real trick because when the guy went to sit down that cards were taken out of our view for a good 5 seconds. So that's not even magic. They should have had to do the trick were the we could see the cards at all times. And I think the guy lied when he said they didn't switch them.
shelby11211 1 day ago
The small and thiin one did nothing :S
JenxyMagix 3 days ago
I know how they do it they use the reflection of the eye it's simple me and my friend do it all the time.
peffep 4 days ago
@peffep Nope, they just added cards, hence the part 'oh, these aren't famous, let's throw those away', which were the shuffled cards he wouldn't be able to guess. It is also why he said 'every card he shuffled was in his hand in the order he shuffled them', he just forgot to say 'we skipped those and added others in our own order for ease of 'guessing', though'.
extragunbon 2 days ago
For the ball trick, the ball is in his pocket.
Bgboynick 4 days ago
@Bgboynick I have seen him do the same thing before with clear cups to see all the movements.
Bgboynick 4 days ago
Personally I thought that there were 2 different buttons on the gun one that fired one did not or that for legal reasons it just can't fire when its at his hand because there is no pressure on the nail ....
postedonmyiphone 5 days ago
He so did a deck switch. I'm a magician myself and I completely saw it
Orchdorktilldeath 1 week ago
I wonder if they could do that trick with the skinny dude on the same side of the room as the larger dude.
UNxForGotTeNN 2 weeks ago
@enchilibla if he did then why does he repeat hand movements.
TheSkeletalBaron 2 weeks ago
They did add cards..the skinny guy uses word play when asked about a deck switch..he says "the cards are in the order Jonathan Ross shuffled them" and when asked if something was done during the time Jonathan shuffled to when Jonathan sat down he responded by saying "we did not switch out the cards Jonathan shuffled"
pangexp 2 weeks ago
watch the dudes hands, hes signaling with his hand that has the thumb in the pocket
noen1337 2 weeks ago 2
@noen1337 I too noticed his hand.
kissmyarse1541 1 week ago
For everyone saying "he added extra cards to the top and the bottom" then how would you explain them asking Jonathan to cut the deck?
minnonikki 2 weeks ago
this is a gay trick, he added extra cards on top, even if he didn't its lame!
Johnnyboybravo 2 weeks ago
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uwait 2 weeks ago
Nail guns need to be pressed right up against a surface in order to fire the nail. They're designed this way so that you can't fire nails around like bullets out of a normal gun. So when puts it on his hand it doesn't create enough pressure for the nail to come out. Notice that he fires and never actually touches the table with the gun when the nail "should have" come out into the table.
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maddog24618 2 weeks ago
The way guy 1 holds his hand to his belt shows guy 2 what card it is. Watch how the position of the fingers changes with every guess.
HeadBangerfc 3 weeks ago
Theres two 'buttons' on the nail gun they used. One button on the back of the handle feeds the nail into the chamber and the trigger releases compressed air to shoot it out.
As for the card trick I'm pretty sure these guys have practiced doing this act for a fuck of a long time and memorized certain hand signals and facial expressions to match each picture. Pretty sure they didn't switch the deck.
symplystik 3 weeks ago
teller is too fucking talkative here
alibabahassan 3 weeks ago
Deck switch at 2:09, they lied!!
JonnathonM 3 weeks ago
i think they cheated. deck switch or addinig extra cards - same fucking thing. they were caught out and should have admitted it.
levit8dude 3 weeks ago in playlist More videos from pikespeak12 2
@levit8dude deck switch and adding cards are not even close to the same thing within magic. 2 sepperate illusions and 2 seperate tricks.
dimenthunter 2 weeks ago
i know how they did
saraya613fit 3 weeks ago
i see how the nail gun is done. you never see the top of the board clearly but the nails are already in there just "disguised". the nail gun has a magnet at the top and when Penn presses down on the board it brings one of the nails up. there is real compressed air firing to make the sound but there are no nails coming out of the gun.
matendo37 4 weeks ago
@matendo37 so your first of all saying that he would not be able to do it if you stood infront of him? and would not jonathan see the nails when they carry the board up? sure he can be acting, but that dousnt sound as Penn and Teller. Also, logically, if the nails already where in the wood and where pulled out they had to be put in the straight downwards, but many of the nails he pulls up end up tilting sideways which points out that he hits the wood from a tilting angle.
dimenthunter 2 weeks ago
the guy switched the deck when when jonathan pass in front of him to take the sit.
tashi2010t 1 month ago
Note that Penn never disengages the safety when the gun contacts "flesh" (both his and Teller's), as he never presses the gun hard enough into "flesh" to cause the tip of the gun to become depressed and travel far enough for the safety to become disengaged and thereby fire the nail. I am an amateur magician, but was a professional framer and used these guns to fire thousands and thousands of nails while building houses. I was not "fooled" by this one.
josephsisson 1 month ago
@josephsisson but when he made that '' mistake'' he did press the wood at the same pressure as anyother in the wood so i not entirely sure about that been true
htklsl 4 weeks ago
@htklsl The "mistake" is an illusion from a master illusionist. Again a nail will be fired only when the tip of the gun is depressed AND the trigger is pulled. Again the trigger can be held in advance of the "bump" or pulled after the tip of the gun has been depressed. Look again at Penn's so called mistake. Penn creates the illusion of a mistake (misfire) by making the gun misfire by not causing the tip of the gun to be depressed at the same time that the trigger is pulled.
josephsisson 4 weeks ago
As Penn has stated, magicians who do magic tricks which involve the possibility of real danger to the magician(s) or participant are "immoral". Rest assured Penn is not immoral in this act as there is no real danger here. A nail can be fired in two ways. 1 Hold the trigger and "bump" the gun into the wood. 2 Press the gun into the wood and hold then press the trigger. The gun will fire a nail only when the "tip" of the gun has been depressed and "travels" to disengage the safety. Note that...
josephsisson 1 month ago
lame trick, he points to his buddy which card is looked at by changing the pose of his left hand crammed in his vests pocket.... lame
enchibla 1 month ago
Penn and Teller would make for an excellent video game boss fight.
misjif2341 1 month ago in playlist More videos from pikespeak12
i think monkeying with the deck should count as a "deck switch". that was pretty cheap.
hardinmichael1981 1 month ago
are they gay?
QofLife69 1 month ago 4
If it was a simple memory trick (adding cards to the top and bottom) like a lot of people are suggesting, then how did they guarantee that Jonathan would cut the cards in the right place 4:10 ? Magic tricks can't rely on guess work otherwise they would go horribly wrong at least 50% of the time.
soulsanctuarymusic1 1 month ago
@soulsanctuarymusic1 Because he predicts the cards that are added... Then throws the ones that were shuffled.
jrkfacedkiller 1 month ago
@jrkfacedkiller that doesn't answer my question
soulsanctuarymusic1 1 month ago
@soulsanctuarymusic1 I was being nice. You don't get the trick. So don't worry about. 2 people have fully explained it to you and you still don't get it. That's fine. Be mystified.
jrkfacedkiller 1 month ago
@jrkfacedkiller I understand the explanation and I'm poking a hole in the explanation, again my question was not answered!
soulsanctuarymusic1 1 month ago
@soulsanctuarymusic1 Dude, watch the video again, He throws the cards on the ground after 4:10. getting to the cards placed on the bottom... :/
jrkfacedkiller 1 month ago
@jrkfacedkiller Yes I know, Jonathan cuts them, my question was if Johnathan cuts them there is a risk of the trick going wrong, how do they overcome that risk if it was just a simple memory trick?
soulsanctuarymusic1 1 month ago
it's kind of a shame that you can easily see through the nail gun trick if you've ever actually used a nail gun, but it's the presentation that makes it hilarious.
willyolio 1 month ago
"we live together, we work together, and we do our magic together.... also we sleep together".
kyzon 1 month ago in playlist More videos from pikespeak12
Another possibility:
Just think of this person = C.S. Lewis
Think of this person = Florwnse Nightingale
Who is that person = Houdini
And this one = Graham Bell
etc.. etc...
But still, most likely a deck switch or they added cards
undergroundo 1 month ago 13
@undergroundo That's gotta be it, such a simple solution and easy to make happen.
alexrempel12390 1 month ago
It's established the guy on the right added cards tot he top and bottom of the deck. How they SHOULD have done the trick would have been for the guy on the left to memorize 52 different subtle cues from the guy on the right and actually use the shuffled deck. A lot more preparation, but a MUCH better trick.
seanccronin 1 month ago 5
the cards 'John mixed' where in the right order he mixed but all they did were add cards top and bottom which the other has learnt. the cards chucked aaway where the ones john shuffeled
dougdolly 1 month ago
it did look as if he switched the deck xD
16m49x3 1 month ago
he didnt switch the deck, BUT he added some cards on top and on the bottom. the cards he gets rid of, are the cards that was REALLY shuffled. DONE, you can sleep peacefully now
ikamts2 1 month ago
the real trick here is how he cut out a profile of him when Jonathan Ross was facing him directly
chainedtotheworld 1 month ago 9
Watch Penn's head shake when he thought he saw the deck switch at 2:10
SalazarMagic 1 month ago
I really like the philosophy of Penn and Teller about it being morally wrong to use dangerous tricks, unless of course the danger itself is just an illusion. And the way they emphasize it via air gun trick. Love those guys.
maksnake 1 month ago
Simple... spycam :)
pitombex 1 month ago in playlist Uploaded videos
Watch the fingers of West when the cards are drawn. Too bad they cut the action of when Jonathan draws cards himself, at some point you can see West's fingers stick out his fist.
saykoshey 1 month ago
It's rubber nails. If you watch closely, you can see some of the nails bend when he pushes the nail gun down against the board.
TheBenjiNecessity 1 month ago
@TheBenjiNecessity well no they are metallic watch again
KazzyEss2k9 1 month ago
I think if I was teller... Iiiiii'd skip out on someone taking a nail gun to my neck... even if the gun would have been empty...
chrism4n14 1 month ago
"A deck switch"
Thank you once again for exposing magic mister Penn.
shmoolonzo 1 month ago
@shmoolonzo well... i don't know how "A deck switch" works, neither what it... means
but maby i'm just stupid
ryonafan 1 month ago
he didn't do a deck switch he added extra cards the top and bottom of the deck
CRSVARGAS 1 month ago 43
@CRSVARGAS
That sounds reasonable...
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Katalyzt 1 month ago
@CRSVARGAS something happened behind ross back as he went to the middle, the case and the deck swap hands...
MrMightygoose 1 month ago
@CRSVARGAS I don't think so. I think he added cards to the bottom of the deck. The cards on top were the ones that the host shuffled. The reason he knew them were the hand signals on the left hand. If you watch it again, keep your eye on the guy that is standing, there is a distinctive position of his hand for each card. That is, until he throws out the cards becuase of 'time' and then gets to the loaded deck which he had memorized.
PalaceofHills 4 weeks ago
@CRSVARGAS Yeah, that's what I figured.
mikepictor 3 days ago
There is a safety on that nail gun. He has to hit the barrel onto the board in order for it to fire.
valleyman008 2 months ago 4
@valleyman008 i think there is 2 triggers ,1 that makes the sound and one that fires the nail. i worked with nail guns for years its definately the gun. even the expressed air with out the nail can hurt your skin .
steviesuperstar 1 month ago
@valleyman008 i think that that is right
123321mushy 1 month ago
I wonder how many times Penn killed Teller trying to get it right.
physicsissexy 2 months ago 3
My amateur suggestion for how this trick is done: shorty is giving facial expressions to fatty that key him on the card's identity. Subtle changes, blinks, whatever. These guys rehearse the thing all the time, so of course they could learn to pick up on impossibly tiny cues.
IriathZhul 2 months ago
Lol. They're like Penn and Teller in an alternate universe.
IriathZhul 2 months ago
The main problem with these shows is the camera is always showing one angle or another instead of being able to see what you want. The trick somehow centers on the dude standing next to Jonathan. He’s somehow sending a signal, most likely a combo of verbal and body language to let the other guy know what card is shown. If I could see an angle that showed him through the entire trick I could tell you exactly what hes doing.
kccody 2 months ago
People who are saying the nail gun is actually loaded should probably reconsider. Even if you knew the safety feature actually worked, why would you chance it anyway? What I found wonky was the way the nails appeared on the table. Almost as if they sprung to the occasion. Hint hint.
Rotten730 2 months ago
Properly designed safeties can be 100% reliable, but that would still leave issues such as flying splinters, that are part of the "normal operation" of a nail gun. Anyway, the trick they used is pretty old (it's how most knife throwers do their act), and you can actually see how it works just by paying attention to the video.
RFC3514 2 months ago
@RFC3514 Well you have caught up with me on method however nothing is 100% safe ever.
Rotten730 2 months ago
@Rotten730 - Many (though definitely not all) industrial tools have "100% reliable" safety mechanisms, in the sense that they need very deliberate actions in order to work, actions that are (by design) rendered physically impossible as a consequence of component failure. That still leaves operator error, of course, but that applies to any object (if you stick a pen into someone's eye, you'll probably blind him, but that doesn't mean the pen is dangerous when used to write).
RFC3514 2 months ago
I think P&T were convinced they did a switch that they didn't see the hand signals.
rynoboy007 2 months ago
hand signals, as well as verbal coding
Zombifaction 2 months ago
2:08-2:10 you can see the switch he does behind the view of J.Ross, they outright lied and hope Penn had a look at the footage afterwards and cancelled their trip.
411smiths 2 months ago
@411smiths - I don't think there is a deck switch. They simply added a few cards to the bottom of the deck for the part of the trick that can't rely on hand signals (the fast bit at the end). The rest, as has been pointed out, is trivial to do with hand signals and code words. The add-on is indeed "ugly" and obvious, but it isn't a deck switch, so they were technically telling the truth. Overall a pretty boring trick.
RFC3514 2 months ago
@411smiths It's a fake switch, but yeah it's funny how Penn shakes his head in dismay.
IriathZhul 2 months ago
Obviously some sort of signal. His left hand looks very suspicious as he shows the card. It could have been done a number very unimpressive of ways...
thisisnotdom 2 months ago
nvm, after looking at he whole vid, they just added the cards, why he just threw away a bunch of cards on the middle and why the blue book thing actually has the place to hold cards
kotofu 2 months ago
look at how he holds his belt, clearly a signal
kotofu 2 months ago
wow this was horrible. The small guy whos not cutting the silouette, his left hand (the one not holding the card) was constantly in different positions. If you look at his fingers hes giving a subtle sign.
TheChris61710 2 months ago
fixed, the guy said 'vera lynn' before johnathon even looked at the last card... fakes should of gone to jail let alone vegas... and that guy did add to the deck and also give hand signals it was all terrible just wannabe derren browns.....
darossatron 2 months ago
A mixture of signalling with fingers etc for the slow cards. But for the faster ones they were added to the "deck" when penn thought there was a deck switch. As the cards aren't a tradintional deck of cards they can get away with adding new cards.
Lanky4561 2 months ago
What about the TV screen behind Jonathan?
thesalamih 3 months ago
shuffle at 2:08
0B00BY0 3 months ago
hmm everytime the gun acutally touched any surface (his hand, tellers genitals and throat) it didn't shoot
but as soon as there was a distance between the gund and the surface, it shoots
LE0NSKA 3 months ago
@LE0NSKA watch between 10:40 - 10:44 penn clearly shoots the gun mid-air with no surface ;)
darossatron 2 months ago
Nailgun: If I'm correct that simply relies on a mechanical safety interlock in the nailgun. Just pressing the trigger only does the air burst. The nose has to be depressed as well as the trigger in order for a nail to fire. Press it hard enough into someone's neck, and fire, and it could give a much different result. So the nail string is actually full at all times.
19RedLineR74 3 months ago
@19RedLineR74 that was my first guess, but i really dont think thats the trick, cause it would still be too dangerous and they wouldnt put it on life organs
guitar789 2 months ago
at 2:58 he's still signalling Ginger Rogers. At 2:59-3:00 you can clearly see the sudden change in signal by the hand in his jacket pocket. If that was just more subtle, it would've been grand. From there you just keep checking the signals.
19RedLineR74 3 months ago
Count the fingers of the guy revealing the cards. It changes constantly. I guess also there is some other change, e.g. weight on foot or direction of view.
TheMercilessMinx 3 months ago 2
@TheMercilessMinx nice supervision mate! i think that's might be it
LE0NSKA 3 months ago
I am too lazy to look, anyone else notice he said "I'll put THESE down," when he only apparently puts the book down? Something fishy, he may be no linguist, but I am no magician so I will just say something is awry. I also thought he switched the deck.
AussieKentBrockman 3 months ago 2
nice sensor on that nail gun
revengerro 3 months ago
2:06 is the 'sneaky' moment I believe Penn was referring to. The magician is completely blocked by the assistant, plus his hand gets very close to some pockets as well as other things.
Loved the trick :3
mekkabon 3 months ago
Even i could see his hands changed every time to signal to his partner.
wilsonseto1 3 months ago
In richard feyman's (physicist) book he talks about magic for a chapter. He mentions this very trick. It's as old as these guys are trying to be. Easy as pie. Surprised that p&t didn't get it. I actually don't believe they didn't get it... they probably just liked this act and wanted it to go to vegas.
urwholefamilydied 3 months ago
Markings on the back of the cards, or subtle visual symbols given by the guy holding the cards.
Liberum69 3 months ago
Well.. the Pen and teller trick is actualy not even a trick.. The nailgun has a safty on it. You would have to press down the tip to a certan point before the nail shoots. If you dont. there is only air coining out... Gz
Mikkelangeloo 3 months ago
I dont know about you guys, but i believe that everytime he tries to guess a card west changes the position of his hands on his pockets, maybe because of that the other one knows wich card it is.
GustavoKhan 3 months ago 3
@GustavoKhan I agree 100% I saw that too.
KOSTeamItaly 3 months ago
I don't know why but Jonathan reminds me of Mufasa so much.
WretchedTooth 4 months ago
2:09 you can see he's behind the back and exchanging the decks. Then as he bends over you can see his hand going into his stomach and exchanging the deck. For the deck cutting he is trained to take out a specific number of cards. They obviously have rehearsed this before and when the deck is diminished to more its basically guessing from there because the percentage of the guess goes from 25% right to 50/50 as there are little amount of cards. I believe these people lied to get into vegas...
Ropsdsad 4 months ago
nail guns don't shoot unless they have a lot of force on the end right? if you notice when he "forgets" a nail he pulls the trigger while it's above the board.
mrchuckl3s 4 months ago
Penn and teller swear they do not approve of doing tricks.. that even if performed wrong.. could do harm to a person.. they consider it immoral. I doubt there is any way the gun is set up to shoot a nail in his hand.
keiko52 4 months ago
for fucks sake, alot of you commenters are real buzzkills. Just enjoy the fucking trick and try not to think about it too much.
Drgamedood 4 months ago 2
@Drgamedood I agree! I think just because the show is called "Fool Us" the commenters think that means them.
CVargas 3 months ago
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@Drgamedood Half the fun of magic is trying to figure out how it works.
ChaosEmerl 2 months ago
@Drgamedood Half the fun of magic is trying to figure out how it works.
ChaosEmerl 2 months ago 28
watch his left hand in his waist coat. it changes with every card call, i believe he is using his hands to signal his partner. actually both his hands change.
christianteirra 4 months ago
watch his left hand in his waist coat. it changes with every card call, i believe he is using his hands to signal his partner
christianteirra 4 months ago
the nail gun is not touching the board when he pulls the trigger and the nail is not coming out till he presses it on the board.
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derstrom8 4 months ago
lol Morgan and West are funny!
pakijetli 4 months ago
Geez. The nails are clearly coming UP from the table.They get released when the "gun" touches the table/
BertWeidermeyer 4 months ago
At 2:08 you can clearly see the skinny guy waits for the host to walk in front of him, and does some suspicious shit with his hands. Penn even moves his head to see it better.
slimd1995 4 months ago
the gun doesnt fire a nail when being pressed to an object?!
ppage27 4 months ago
tellers face is so priceless at 6:14
KWIKpwn 4 months ago
It was so easy, watch how he holds the cards in front of the volunteer, his fingers are signing what card he holds up, the bunch he throws away is preset so they only need a limited number of signs.
jeffms2 4 months ago 15
@jeffms2 Then how would john know the signs to show the man?
iTzDBox 2 months ago
@jeffms2 from where penn and teller are sitting the host is blocking there view of his fingers on his waist so that contributed to fooling them. i still cant see how he was signaling when the partner he clasped his hands together towards in the end.
Pantlessness 1 month ago
it was hand gestures....geez
eric544 4 months ago in playlist Penn and Teller Fool Us Season 1
oh God. I literally felt sick for a second when he held the gun to his neck.
MissiveCauseIMissYou 5 months ago
@MissiveCauseIMissYou This is so easy too, the nails only come out when the tip of the gun is depressed. The clear proof...look how many nails are on the table and compare it to the size of the chamber, there were no gaps in the nail string, the only thing Penn memorized was the number of nails the gun could hold.
jeffms2 4 months ago 2
They added a deck of cards on top of the ones John "Shuffled" ... Thats why they could say there was no "Switch" and the "All the cards John shuffled were in his hand in the order he shuffled them" ... yes under what they placed on top.
sleep1 5 months ago
Two ways I could see this trick being done.
1- the guy who was standing next to Jonathan could see the cards and signal to his partner a code that corresponded to the silhouette.
I assume that Penn and Teller were looking for this. If so, the other possibility was that the guy standing next to Jonathan was signaling his partner electronically using his shoe as a switch or something. Unless I missed something, he could see the cards at all times.
ronpaulbot 5 months ago
@ronpaulbot
Well for most of them he said something as the card was turned and that something changed every time.
e.g. "How about this one" "and who is this" "next"
For the remainder some small finger or eye cues could easily have been done.
Would have been a better trick with the electronic signals though.
RaymondCorrigan 5 months ago
it wasn't a deck switch, it was a deck add. he added the bottom half, so he could recite the bottom half after being given the Shirley temple audio que. the first part was also done on audio cue, with all of the cards being sorted audio categories. ie this, that, person, one, just, think. a really incredible memory feat.
gamz4tlol 5 months ago
There's some fishy editing around 4:28, based on how he's holding the cards and the number of cards left, but it may not have affected the trick and could just be done for illustrative purposes for the home audience's benefit.
hawaiidispenser 5 months ago
I don't think doing a trick that is so lame that it can be faked in a dozen ways, then having Penn and Teller guess the wrong one, should count as fooling them.
EGarrett01 5 months ago
At first the guy holding the card indicates what it is with his left hand. Then he puts new cards on bottom in a memorized order and removes the shuffled cards "to save time".
heyf00L 5 months ago
Will Teller ever speak?
LLOYD19851012 5 months ago
@LLOYD19851012 He speaks all the time, just not while he's on TV
123runaround 5 months ago
the guy who can see the cards changes hes hand gesture every time a new card is picked.
cored666 5 months ago
I have seen the nail gun trick been done by them in Jimmy Fallon show. Couldn't find a video about it...
helljeez 5 months ago
@helljeez They were probably ashamed to have been on the Jimmy Fallon show, so they deleted it.
redcleon 5 months ago
Notice how at 2:08 he waits for Jonathan to walk in front of him, he then makes a move behind him. I'm quite sure it was a deckswitch, you can also see Penn suspecting the deckswitch as he looks and leans over.
MrFlashcat 5 months ago
Victorian dudes trick: Listen to what they say. Think of this PERSON. Think of this ONE. Think of THAT one. JUST think of this person. I also don't think there was a full deck switch just a partial onto the bottom of the deck, then the guy signals how many cards are left at the end to be guessed.
bertt646 6 months ago 21
@bertt646 Did you notice West's hand while it was in his pocket? Kind of fishy as well.
NecroNetica 5 months ago
@bertt646 All perfectly explained, until the end... when Ross is holding up multiple cards at a time, from the middle of his remaining pile, with no audio cue from the guy behind him.
hawaiidispenser 5 months ago
Nails in the board dude.
RandomTask3000 6 months ago
No nails are being fired by that gun.
t0f0b0 6 months ago
Those guys did not deserve to go to Vegas.
illegitimate0 6 months ago 27
For anyone who's ever used one, that's a really fishy sounding/behaving nail gun.
AraGuitar 6 months ago
yeah watch the guy 's hand switching position at every card.
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servantf 6 months ago
Because one of them looks at the cards, my guess is that they communicate by microgestures, ( a blink, a sligth snear,)
or use of language (what about this one) (just think of this one) , maybe entonation.
orcodrilo 6 months ago
@orcodrilo Exactly, they have a way of communication, why would the partner handle the cards otherwise, it could be left heel up, right toe up, vice versa, blink right eye (eye away from crowd) once. twice so on, smile, grin, head movements, its actually an old trick, used with plants and with out. Even the way he holds the card. with 3 or 2 or 1 fingers on the back.
MDM781 6 months ago 2
i've worked with nail guns, you have to press against the tip for the nail to come out. so if he doesn't apply any pressure to the nozzle with his hand, no nail will come out no matter how many times he presses the trigger. no memorizations, just the safety feature that comes with all nail guns.
DarthTyler17 6 months ago
@DarthTyler17 wouldn't that make his explanation about how this is the exact same trick as in the vaudeville days a straight up lie?
SomethingRules 6 months ago
@SomethingRules exactly! there's another episode where he calls an audience member up to check something cause he says that the rest of the audience doesn't trust him cause he's a liar! meaning that he's not gonna really tell how a trick is done.
DarthTyler17 6 months ago
He simply added cards...
Kryszkiewicz666 6 months ago
A deck switch sure was very possible at 2:06 but he said he didn't. hummmmm
mrbusters 6 months ago
A lot of comments missed the point. Penn takes great care to express how they never do a trick that could go wrong and harm someone. This could absolutely be a lie, misdirection to make a trick seem more complicated than simply "it's an industrial-safety nailgun. duh." BUT if it isn't a lie, then that nailgun isn't a nailgun, nails aren't coming out of it and the entire prop, Penn's talk and gesture, is all there to hide the nails being pushed up from the bottom. Or magnets. That's all I got.
JossJossJoss1 6 months ago
look up pressured nailgun safety. construction nail guns have to be pushed down in order to fire.
inertspace 6 months ago
i think there wasnt and deck switch. i think the guy guessing the cards just have a very good eyesight and could identifiy the silhouettes by looking into jonathans eyes and identifiying the reflection of the card.
rockcastlemusic 6 months ago
The device penn uses is not under pressure. The nails he 'fires' all merely fall out of it, and whenever a nail comes out of the device he noticeably has to give it a nudge first. Actual pressurized nail guns instantaneously hit a wood beam 15 feet away, if you have ever seen that you notice the difference at first glance.
ac1th 6 months ago
I saw a similar trick to the vintage guys one on TV some time ago. They use a code of phrases to communicate which card is being shown, eg "Think of this one" means Lincoln, "How about this one" means Marie Curie and so on including changes in inflection and gesticulation. The psychic in this act could do it with his eyes closed.
ac1th 6 months ago
I think teller got a cimmic behind his back wich makes the sound of the gun if he presses it. That means Penn never has to fire the gun in his hand. The noise makes you think he is firing it, same with his finger moving still doesn't say he actually fired the gun.
Like he said no danger involved if he never fires the gun, no memorie but a trick
greencodra 6 months ago
2:05 - the mome