the science behind mixed martial arts part 9

[tomster73]

i like pride better

[reykahana1]

wow UFC fighters are the ultimate fighters dude!!!

[KChapman333]

I feel sorry for the guy who was getting slammed....

[ZOMG119]

I think tito was just speculating when he said "1000 sit ups a day"

[cloudforgiven]

not really my goal is 500 and i'm 15 but you must rest

[thuglyf121212]

mma kick ass

randy & bas LEGEND

[danielc1464]

Dont care, great show and it really showcased how elite these athletes really are, tito's quote on how he trained 6 days a week puts in perspective the kind of torture these guys go through every day just for the chance of winning

[Ginty07]

the program had enuf money to pay to use the octagon bout not enuohg to pay for the ufc brand

as they would want a bigger income and the ryt to use the ufc logo wud have jst decreased this income

[Jacobslayer7]

and also, he never said 1000 sit ups was the ONLY thing he did, he just said he does nothing less than that. I'm betting that he does hundreds of other mixed things as well

[32spartan11]

very true but my point was for an athlete like himself and any athlete period during a 1000 sit ups is a waste of time, as an athlete he could be utilizing this time for a much more productive training or even more rest which is also just as important to training as the work out. Which tells me he doesn't have very good trainers.

[wjat89]

Thats not true, core strength is so vital for an MMA fighter, your core is involved in almost every activity in MMA, your kicks, your grappling and also how well you take hits. Plus, im pretty sure his trainers would know a thing or two more than you about MMA training, i mean he is a professional fighter.

[32spartan11]

I didnt say core strength isnt important i said doing a 1000 sit ups a day is a waste of time. Just because hes a professional doesnt mean he trains with the best trainer it could be a guy from his home town gym. I dont know who his trainer is, but what i do know is from my weightlifting class the instructor directly said doin that is a waste of time. as i stated before. Doing a variety of exercises is much more effective.

[32spartan11]

core strength is the most important aspect for any athlete not just a fighter.

[MaxGardis]

he could also just do less sit ups with weights on him... at least i saw some people do that... no idea if that gives the same results

[TaylerIsHere]

excactly, muscle grows when you sleep, not when you work out

[Oathlol]

Quite right, the muscle pain you feel after a work out is infact some muscle tissue damage due to stress which allows the body to rebuild the muscle tissue making it larger or creating more density.

This pain is called "DOMS" if you google it you'll find out alot more. (Delayed onset muscle soreness).

[TaylerIsHere]

that is true, but the pain more comes from lactic acid getting into those microscopic muscle tears.

[Gplex]

Well technically when you rest...

[TaylerIsHere]

in resting do you mean like sitting on the couch and watching tv?

[Gplex]

It can...

[TaylerIsHere]

i guess a little, but the repair process is best effective when you fully shut down.

[Gplex]

Yea, but you can only sleep for so long....

[TaylerIsHere]

yeah, i usually take 2 days off the week to rest. I kinda misunderstood you, i thought you said that resting is the only way to recover muscles ony your first reply.

[Gplex]

When you get heavier it takes even longer to heal...

[TaylerIsHere]

uh yeah ok

[sterben360z]

What If you dont sleep? an workout all the time, sleep 3h or less a day?

[Jacobslayer7]

I think these people know a little more that your average colleage instructor....

[RabiesJr]

I can't fucking believe they made a hexagon instead of an octagon ..... idiots....

[jimmy1deen]

they had to... the Octagon is patented by the UFC they would have had to pay Dana and them to use the design

[RabiesJr]

But they mention the octagon by name, then use a hexagon. It just doesn't add up. They made this horrible error of judgment and now my life is no longer worth living. I hate all things.

[jasonmcnasty]

the throwdown logo was in the middle of the hexagon. if it was the octagon throwdown would have to pay the ufc on top of paying the show for advertising it.

[dungeongrappling]

@RabiesJr lol that is because the Octagon is a trademark of the UFC.

[e8urls1]

where do you get that the ufc has a patent on the octagon cage?

[thedudefromthewoods]

" Originally, SEG trademarked The Octagon and prevented other mixed martial arts promotions from using the same type of cage, but in 2001, Zuffa gave its permission for other promotions to use octagonal cages (while reserving use of the name "Octagon"), reasoning that the young sport needed uniformity to continue to win official sanctioning."

-Gentry, Clyde, No Holds Barred: Ultimate Fighting and the Martial Arts Revolution, (Milo Books: Preston, 2005), p.208

[e8urls1]

interesting , i had no Idea.....but I dont think that is the reason this show did not use the octagonal cage.

[thedudefromthewoods]

ya i don't know either why they used this one, i haven't even seen one like this before in ufc.

[CoolDojo9000]

Conclusion, as a fighter: MMA >> Specialist

[tjgodhand9999]

ah! true those were different times! but the fighters royce gracie fought were had no or little training in bjj groundfighting/NHB. heck in ufc 1 ken shamrock said it was his 1st time fighting a jujutsu stylist.

flash foreward to the future. gracie's aren't doing that well in mma .

i think randy is a great fighter. he just had a bad day. i thought it was kinda of funny, that he was refering to the brock lesnar fight when he said that.

[tjgodhand9999]

i think nothing in mma is written in stone.

tito says he trains 6 days a week 8 hrs a day.

could a fighter 6 days a week 4hrs a day and still get same level as a elite athele?

[32spartan11]

im sure he could train for that and be just as good for somepeople that could be overtraining and i highly doubt in reality he trains 8 hours a day that may include film and other things about the opponent and 1000s sit ups a day is pointless took a weight lifting class

[Kiarip]

1000 sit ups a day does quite a bit of toning, which is important for stamina, and weight/strength efficiency.

[32spartan11]

I took weight training class in college and the instructor directly said doing 1000 situps/crunches a day is pointless. In all aspects of training. There is no need to do that amount of any one exercise. Doing a combination of ab excercises is not only more effective all around but increases your overall performance. Especially overtime. Your body adapts and hits a physical limit eventually. doing any exercise to best enhance physical doing a variety of exercises is best, not 1000 of one.

[32spartan11]

Now will you tone and increase your stamina, yes. But stamina only in that particular exercise. It will increase the muscle until a point but not very much. In half the time of doing a 1000 crunches/situps you could be doing a circiut ab work out that is much more effient and performance enhancing

[Kiarip]

are you sure? I was always under impression that massive repetitions increased the overall stamina of the muscle.

Also I'm very sure that it increases the muscle power/weight efficiency. Meaning that you will lose some weight and your power may decrease as well but overall you will be stronger than a person of the same weight of untoned muscle (thus making it important to maintain weight-class ranges.)

Correct the parts that are wrong plz, I'm not a professional expert in this matter.

[32spartan11]

Massive reps in any exercise will gain you stamina but not the kind most people think of. 1000 sit ups a day will increase your bodys stamina overall minmully. While it vastly increases the ability to do sit ups that one particular exercise. With other exercise and good nutrition you will lose weight from doing sit ups, but for example if you have extra fat on your abs and do situps the only thing your targeting is the muscles it will in no way decrease your fat in that area

[32spartan11]

that is a common misinterpretation for most people because they do all these situps and see little results. (The only way to target an area of fat is with surgey). To lose fat you have to lose it through out your whole body and your abdomin is where most fat is stored You will gain muscle strength, but for example if you bench press 100 pounds 100 times it doesnt mean you can bench press 200 pounds 10 times. You probably couldnt if thats all you did. This is true for all exercises.

[Kiarip]

Im not talking about losing fat, I'm talking about losing the less efficient muscle.

When you talk about bench pressing 100 pounds 100 times vs 200 pounds 10 times, you have to address the question though, which one is more useful?

[32spartan11]

There is no less effecient muscle all muscle is effecient fat isnt. And what you state is true about the bench press. It depends on what your training for though only a 100 pound bench press isnt much for any sport even if you can do it 100 times. But for professional MMA fighters and any athlete in general it's better to keep your body guessing during training. doing the same exercise daily will not only not get you the results you want but will not give your the over all best performance.

[tyrantda]

i agree with spartan but this type of trainig is mainly for body building or mass building. mma training has more rep but not like a thousand straight like some of you think they break it into circuits and super sets. To build stamina and power. ex doing 100 situps the doing a plank, then another hundred, this is a hyper set i believe doing 3 exercises i a row. This builds muscle and power.

[32spartan11]

your right about how they train but u have what they're training for mixed up they are training for overall body stamina. To last the 5 min rounds. Power and strength and mass building is done by increasing the weight lowering the reps. Most fighters are at the weight/strength they need to be so most MMA guys train for stamina. and in my eyes worry more about being in shape than fighting (eg lesnar no fighting skill beside wrestling but in incredible shape) Most fighters have poor stand up

[Pekeno201]

you are right, after doing the same exercice over and over your muscles and body get used to that certain movement and so they "work" less harder, the key is to change your exercices every month or so, you cannot let your body get used to the movement you have to make the muscles work as hard as possible so, making different abs exercices is more efficent then doing 1000 setups

[tjgodhand9999]

randy couture said it is not the biggest and strongest (with hands like hammers) that win mma matches. this was of course before his fight with brock lesner......famous last words.

[lagook]

randy is still great as far as im concerned

you obviously completely forgot how the small guy won all the first ufc tournies

[watchbeforeyoudie]

you mean royce gracie

[lagook]

^^ :D

[HaydenBye2112]

Randy just got caught any fighter would have gone down from that. Did you also see brock couldn't keep randy down and and that he had to grab the fence to stop randy from taking him down. Also randys 10 years older and 50 pounds lighter than brock.Its like saying matt serra is better than gsp.

[xXTheWarMachineXx]

2nd

[driftgyr]

first one xD