I've just nearly finished an 11 week in depth study of covenant by Precepts ministry. It has been incredible. While it went into many aspects, including the Hebrew words, I hadn't quite grasped it. This really helped me a lot. And I'd never seen the connection between Israel's split and the breaking of covenant. Very interesting.
If we look at the calf spoken about by Prophet Malachi then the calves are people that leave their stalls of their division. For instance men and women are separated in the synagog and people are divided by belief./religions. In the NT the meat is the meat of the spiritual teachings that the people were not ready for. That's why the Christians were only given the milk.
"27:50 Then Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and gave up his spirit. 27:51 Just then88 the temple curtain was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks were split apart. "
Suppose this bears any associated meaning similar to Isreal being cut in two?
I do have a question I am hoping you might be able to clarify. What is the marriage covenant in Gen. 2:24? It seems to me that a marriage begins when a man and a woman leave Mother and Father and are in agreement to live together and then consummate the union by becoming one flesh. If a couple do this without a license of marriage aren't they married according to God? Havent they entered into a covenant of marriage?
The marriage is as you have stated. The license of marriage that you speak of is a recent invention. In reality this license is basically getting permission and approval from the government, and is not necessary for a true marriage.
If there is a man and a woman who have left their Father and Mother and agreed to live together and in fact have produced a baby from the union. After living together for 1 year the woman leaves the man claiming abuse then three months later and five months pregnant is planning on a marriage to another man, however according to scripture isnt she the other mans wife? Does the Scripture say that she is not to remarry unless her husband dies? Thank you for helping w/this topic.
@ladybee56 This is true if we are living in the ancient cultures. However, God appointed authorities and the law as well so men and women would abide by it.
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Romans 13:1
@ladybee56 Now you are getting into a little more serious issues which I am not qualified to answer. The Bible and its laws were given to a community and they were too appoint judges for these issues. Since I am not a judge, I am not qualified to answer this question.
@ancienthebreworg You have answered his questions correctly. marriages to where arranged by the father of the man, the women and her parents enter the picture. A person will be selected to negociate the terms for a yes or no to marriage. If theres a problem then both parties will come before a the judges. Rabbis prophets princes kings etc are judges. Being a judge the requirements are very steep.
@ancienthebreworg To be a judge one must follow the entire torah and teach men to do so. One must come from a family that God selects to judge issues. If a believer In the God of the bible is concidered to be apart of judism proper. aka Christians are a sect of judism proper but wont be able to be a judge till that person gets deeper into the faith. A person not a blood born jew gets adopted by the rabbi that converted him to faith. Jesus aka Rabbi Immanuel Benai David is
@ancienthebreworg So a Christian entering into the faith by a rabbi which is Immanuel benai Daveed. If effect by declaring one is going to follow the bible/torah gets adopted by a Rabbi in effect becomes adopted by the rabbi as a son and or daughter. So if a believer in the bible/torah says there a son of God it is cause God is your father in respect to creation genesis. It also can imply that one follows bible/Torah, Once those who are already judges accepts you after
@ancienthebreworg meeting the reuirements then from that point on they are a judge. In my case i am a Judge by birth, but i am in training. SInce i am only in training i am not yet a judge. I come from a family of judges since by isreali law i can prove that i am a benai Daveed on the mothers side the fathers side is not as provable as of yet.
I am very new to looking into the Hebrew language and ran across your videos which have been very enlightening, making me want to understand more about the translations of our Bibles. I am beginning to feel cheated of understanding and maybe even not knowing the name of God and our Savior. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
So is the Covenant signified/fulfilled by circumcision the cutting of a man's "meat"?
Interesting idea of "schism" as a penalty for disobedience. I believe that Jewish tradition is that the destruction of the Temple was because of disunity in the Jewish community, but maybe that disunity was the result of an earlier breaking of the Covenant by at least one of the resulting factions, probably in the days of the Hellenism?
:D Yes you're absaultly right! There was one other thing I learned was that after the covenant each person would put a mark on their hand usually burned, and when they passed other people they would hold up there hand to show others that if you attack me, I have someone who will hunt you down and destroy you. This seems to me the reason why God would be obligated to help his people come out of Egypt. Of course there are many many more reasons for egypt, but it is just another thing to add.
I've just nearly finished an 11 week in depth study of covenant by Precepts ministry. It has been incredible. While it went into many aspects, including the Hebrew words, I hadn't quite grasped it. This really helped me a lot. And I'd never seen the connection between Israel's split and the breaking of covenant. Very interesting.
JDDsHoneyBee 3 months ago
If we look at the calf spoken about by Prophet Malachi then the calves are people that leave their stalls of their division. For instance men and women are separated in the synagog and people are divided by belief./religions. In the NT the meat is the meat of the spiritual teachings that the people were not ready for. That's why the Christians were only given the milk.
academysounds 1 year ago
Matthew
"27:50 Then Jesus cried out again with a loud voice and gave up his spirit. 27:51 Just then88 the temple curtain was torn in two, from top to bottom. The earth shook and the rocks were split apart. "
Suppose this bears any associated meaning similar to Isreal being cut in two?
vedinthorn 1 year ago
I do have a question I am hoping you might be able to clarify. What is the marriage covenant in Gen. 2:24? It seems to me that a marriage begins when a man and a woman leave Mother and Father and are in agreement to live together and then consummate the union by becoming one flesh. If a couple do this without a license of marriage aren't they married according to God? Havent they entered into a covenant of marriage?
ladybee56 1 year ago
@ladybee56
The marriage is as you have stated. The license of marriage that you speak of is a recent invention. In reality this license is basically getting permission and approval from the government, and is not necessary for a true marriage.
ancienthebreworg 1 year ago 2
@ancienthebreworg
If there is a man and a woman who have left their Father and Mother and agreed to live together and in fact have produced a baby from the union. After living together for 1 year the woman leaves the man claiming abuse then three months later and five months pregnant is planning on a marriage to another man, however according to scripture isnt she the other mans wife? Does the Scripture say that she is not to remarry unless her husband dies? Thank you for helping w/this topic.
ladybee56 1 year ago
@ladybee56 This is true if we are living in the ancient cultures. However, God appointed authorities and the law as well so men and women would abide by it.
New International Version (©1984)
Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Romans 13:1
dmacdp 1 year ago
@ladybee56 Now you are getting into a little more serious issues which I am not qualified to answer. The Bible and its laws were given to a community and they were too appoint judges for these issues. Since I am not a judge, I am not qualified to answer this question.
ancienthebreworg 1 year ago
@ancienthebreworg You have answered his questions correctly. marriages to where arranged by the father of the man, the women and her parents enter the picture. A person will be selected to negociate the terms for a yes or no to marriage. If theres a problem then both parties will come before a the judges. Rabbis prophets princes kings etc are judges. Being a judge the requirements are very steep.
sbz666283 6 months ago
@ancienthebreworg To be a judge one must follow the entire torah and teach men to do so. One must come from a family that God selects to judge issues. If a believer In the God of the bible is concidered to be apart of judism proper. aka Christians are a sect of judism proper but wont be able to be a judge till that person gets deeper into the faith. A person not a blood born jew gets adopted by the rabbi that converted him to faith. Jesus aka Rabbi Immanuel Benai David is
sbz666283 6 months ago
@ancienthebreworg So a Christian entering into the faith by a rabbi which is Immanuel benai Daveed. If effect by declaring one is going to follow the bible/torah gets adopted by a Rabbi in effect becomes adopted by the rabbi as a son and or daughter. So if a believer in the bible/torah says there a son of God it is cause God is your father in respect to creation genesis. It also can imply that one follows bible/Torah, Once those who are already judges accepts you after
sbz666283 6 months ago
@ancienthebreworg meeting the reuirements then from that point on they are a judge. In my case i am a Judge by birth, but i am in training. SInce i am only in training i am not yet a judge. I come from a family of judges since by isreali law i can prove that i am a benai Daveed on the mothers side the fathers side is not as provable as of yet.
sbz666283 6 months ago
I am very new to looking into the Hebrew language and ran across your videos which have been very enlightening, making me want to understand more about the translations of our Bibles. I am beginning to feel cheated of understanding and maybe even not knowing the name of God and our Savior. Thank you for sharing your knowledge!
ladybee56 1 year ago
I'm curious. Where did you learn Hebrew? You teach it so well.
imgodsservant 2 years ago
I am self taught, and thank you.
ancienthebreworg 2 years ago
@ancienthebreworg That leads me to trust other translators, than a self-taught one :)
dmacdp 1 year ago
So is the Covenant signified/fulfilled by circumcision the cutting of a man's "meat"?
Interesting idea of "schism" as a penalty for disobedience. I believe that Jewish tradition is that the destruction of the Temple was because of disunity in the Jewish community, but maybe that disunity was the result of an earlier breaking of the Covenant by at least one of the resulting factions, probably in the days of the Hellenism?
IWannabeJew 2 years ago
:D Yes you're absaultly right! There was one other thing I learned was that after the covenant each person would put a mark on their hand usually burned, and when they passed other people they would hold up there hand to show others that if you attack me, I have someone who will hunt you down and destroy you. This seems to me the reason why God would be obligated to help his people come out of Egypt. Of course there are many many more reasons for egypt, but it is just another thing to add.
Lypur 2 years ago
That is very interesting about the branding, I had not heard of this before, but sounds like something I should look into :-)
ancienthebreworg 2 years ago
The only branding references I can find are Exodus 21:25, 1 Tim 4:2, Rev 13:16,17. Where did you get this info about the marking of the hand from?
dunklaw 2 years ago
The only branding reference I can find is at Exodus 21:25. What is the origin for your info regarding a branding on the hand?
dunklaw 2 years ago
is there more?
yirmeYAH7 2 years ago