TransFormula WS6 VS 03 Mach 1 Race 2

[wpyshneitz]

suprise

[benkenobi1990]

stupid move for GM to get rid of pontiac

[saharadipity]

If they are both STOCK a Mach 1 could hang with a WS6 ALL FU&ING DAYLONG !!!!!!!!

[keznevin]

My bone stock Mach1 w/used $50 MT ET Streets ran 13.089 @ 106.7 in Houston. I've highway rolled T/A's, Formula's & Firehawks before & its a drivers race. Both a Trans Am & Mach1 are capable of mid 12's on slicks & skinnies stock! A gt is not the same car but the 3V is finally getting close to the Mach 1's. A stock terminator cobra will run mid 12's. Once they do a pulley swap its game over. I wish my Mach would have been built w/a 70mm turbo on 6lbs stock.

[kylerack]

lmao, wow, is this guy actually saying a ws6 can take a terminator? haha, maybe a mach 1 and a GT, but the terminators will devourer anything in its path...with a simple intake, pulley swap, and tune, they are putting over 500 bhp so the ws6 would be sh*tting its pants watching the cobra finish the 1/4 mile

[elnrownr]

by the wat nice T/A love the blue color

[krav65]

WS6 RULE OVER ALL STANGS.

[elnrownr]

dont you mean some mustangs

[krav65]

Nahh all stangs

[elnrownr]

even cobra's and gt500's

[krav65]

do you not understand? ALL STANGS!! any of them doesnt matter whut it is.. cobra, gt500 anything.. trans am ws6 kills

[elnrownr]

then you really are the most ignorant and retarded person iv ever spoken too. i was going to say yeah ws6 is bad ass, but agains a cobra/gt500 NOT!!!

what a fucking retard anyore agree with this argument feel free to comment!

[krav65]

hahaha you must not get out much... or you no nuthing about cars.. stock for stock a trans am ws6 will beat any stock mustang pull up any vid on youtube you want... all the proof is there... DURRRR frican idiot..

[elnrownr]

wow i guess mommy and daddy didnt teach you the fundamentals or i guess your still playing with tonka toys because stock for stock a ws6 will get devoured by a cobra "03-04" or a GT 500.. and you were right about 1 thing the proof is there go watch it you fuckin retard

[krav65]

We must be watchin different vids cuz every vid of a cobra and ws6 race the ws6 putts it on the cobra everytime... WS6 RULE! deal with it Chump!

[elnrownr]

your really are a dumb ass ignorant kid its people like you who do not have respect and think that there cars are fast that get embarrased when they get beat and say "Man there is something wrong with my car"

[krav65]

i have lots of respect.. except for chumps like you that get there daddy to build them a car that they cant drive worth a shit.. 12.4 is pretty fast for close to stock but there are lots of cars faster than mine.. but if you compare a trans am ws6 to any car in its price range theres no competition.. if u dont agree with that then you rele dont no shit about cars

[elnrownr]

i wish i had a dad to buy me an enine you little bitch and thats what i thought you better change the argument becase NO bone stock TA can take a bone stock Cobra"03-04"/GT500 you my friend who dont know shit your the one that started this argument and ill finish it...

[krav65]

Ever watch any youtube vids of them race? trans am ws6 comes out on top 99% of the time. you rele dont no shit about cars.. my car bone stock ran 12.9.. and stock i never had a cobra come close

[blown06tc]

Thats your problem right there, you're youtube racing!

[elnrownr]

i never said your car couldnt do a 12.9 do you even realize that im talking about the eaton supercharged cobr's made from 2003-2004

[AgentJohnson1]

A terminator cobra will walk a ws6 every time.

[mannyman84]

im not a mustang fan dude but what ELNROWNR is saying is right..i have a ws6 and i know i cant beat 03-04 cobras, ive beat a lightning before but there is a big weight difference..

[krav65]

i watched some of your vids.. Nice car. whuts ur best 1/4 time?

[mannyman84]

Haven't ran the 1/4

[Smokie420ish]

The trans am and ss camaro ended production in 02. Everyone knows that and the ws6 and ss were not meant to compete with those cars. I am just saying not trying to be an ass. Who really knows if the f-bodies stouck around till 04 they could have supercharged thier egines or gave it the GTO LS2. But they didn't. Both good cars though.

[mannyman84]

Yeah true. I think they might have just had ls2's that wouldve been sick. Cause I don't think that they would supercharged their V8's those years.

[Smokie420ish]

Yeah!!! I think they would've went LS2 or something. Too bad the F-body plant didn't stick around threw 03-07. Would've been interesting.

[mannyman84]

Yeah. Wouldve been some good competition

[Smokie420ish]

Yeah that's what makes it so fun. Honestly Ford can't live without GM and GM cant live without Ford. You have to admit Mustangs, Camaro's, Firebirds, Challengers,AMX, etc... They are all good cars and it just depends on your taste of what you like.

[mannyman84]

Yeah they are fun. Except hondas. Lol

[nvyslss]

Everytime, trans am smoked a mustang.

[khenry1991]

MachWon!!!!

[Mightymopar1973]

Not quite. TA pulled passed.

[khenry1991]

eh, guess it just looked like it

[eDGARfROM432]

Ur Stupid Tha TA Won

[Verator]

Transformulas robots in disguise. :D

[EdwardJellico]

Mustangs are pretty nice cars but the 4th Gen F-Bodies always outperformed them. In most cases, there's not even a contest just like in this video.

[SuRihtanil]

I'am a trans am fan but my hats off the the 03+ Cobra trans am just can't hang sadly... stock vs stock and the new Shelby with 540hp ouch. The Mach 1 and the Ls1 are basically the same in power its a drivers race.

[tpooleATL]

Mach 1's have 305-310 hp. LS1's have 350-375 hp. Mach's have a shorter rear end ratio though.

[AgentJohnson1]

Machs are known to be underrated. Most dynos show them putting out closer to the 320-330 range.

[PGR2TTR]

not too often you see a trans am in that nice patriot blue, nice car man. i got the bright red one mine, really wish i coulda gotten one of the blues though haha

[hauntedforever04]

You are 1/2 way right 93-97 trans am including the WS6 have LT1s

98-02 Trans am, Formulas, and Ws6 models have the LS1s

[mustang4life04]

good race... i want a ws6... the ws6 have ls1's in them if im not mistaken right?

[PDSTANG]

10-4

[drunkendeity]

yea there pretty sweet too i might add

[arkitekt7]

I've decided I didn't like you giving misleading info to the public. To clarify for everyone (and let's use 2002 models)

firebird = camaro

forumula 310HP = (no comparable)

transam = Z28 310HP

WS6 = SS 325HP STOCK!!!

Firehawk = (no comparable) 345hp

can you get an SS equipped comparably to a firehawk? YES... BUT IT DOESN'T COME THAT WAY STOCK! a base SS is just like a base WS6. both of which could have been bumped up with SLP options. People, do your research. Firehawk stands alone stock.

[drunkendeity]

amen

[KBGT94]

oh and no the ls6 bloc isnt good for any horse... but it is casted different and is more durable... even though as loong as its not a 98 the ls1 block will hold just fine!

[KBGT94]

no. not true. LS6 blocks in some. the heads are all ls1. all 01 and 02s came with ls6 intake and a handfull got the ls6 block.

[APontiacof455cubes]

SLP modded was implied. SLP had true duals? didnt know that. But what i was trying to say is that not only were the ratings not down to the T with any LSx cars but that perhaps the LS6 made the diff to 345 horse... being that was the highest rating on any fbody from SLP or GM.

[APontiacof455cubes]

there are no exact power figures. ls6 manifolded '01 and up had around 335 and in '02 when some fbody's received ls6 blocks in place of the ls1 (if u dont believe me, look it up) they were at the end cranking out more like 345hp.

[arkitekt7]

You started it first buddy... I'm done wasting my time with you. maybe you should join a better community like LS1 . com instead of tech. I'll let you win only because you're wasting my time. I guess I'll take my SS out and race some WS6's. I should win with that extra 10 HP that I don't actually have that you claim I do. BTW. I was arguing 2002 specs, not 2001. And nope, sorry... no SS in either 01 or 02 had 345HP. Sorry to once again burst your bubble. I'm done wasting time on you.

[arkitekt7]

No one... Let me repeat, NO ONE LISTEN TO THIS GUY!!!  First off, the FIREHAWK was an SLP conversion package, SLP took formulas, and trans ams and coverted them with their package to a 345HP firehawk. Not 335 you idiot. Secondly an SS and a WS6 had the same power SPECS! it was 325HP. LOOK AT A DAMN BUILD SHEET! I own both and I'd bet them both you don't own either. STFU guy. You're giving people wrong info. Just cuz SLP sells the package for Ls1 cars, doesn't mean they were sold that way!

[arkitekt7]

SS does not equal Firehawk. I do not care that they both were "SLP" cars. The exhaust and some suspension parts were different between the two. The SS did not have the power rating of the Firehawk. The SS was sold as the same power (HP and Torque) as the WS6. I own both, have the stickers to prove. And I'm not partial. I love all F-bodies.

[f3nixfire]

Bone stock my mach 1 ran a 13.11@108. There are a few other mach owners that ran alittle faster than me. 13.08@108. These are manual machs. The autos are slower, usually 13.5-13.8. These times vary with driver skill. LS1s put up very similar times as well under almost the same track conditions. These cars are so evenly matched that you cannot give the advantage to one over the other. It simply comes down to driver skill. Plain and simple. Anyone who says otherwise about either car is arrogant.

[arkitekt7]

This is the first good statement I've read on here. First of all. Even identical cars sold from the same lot will put down different times, HP, and TQ. When one guys Mach runs 13.12, another stocker will run a 13.52 with the same driver and same conditions. Take LS1 cars. We dino stock ones all day long and they can range from 283RWHP to 349RWHP. There are some called factory freaks that for whatever reason are just bad. My dynoed stock at 323RWHP-02 M6 WS6

[f3nixfire]

No. I have talked to several LS1 owners and yes they vary wildly on dyno numbers. One LS1 will yank the crap out of another. Mach 1s are not this way. Most all mach 1s will dyno very similar numbers with a difference of maybe 5-10 hp apart which can very well be due to the weather conditions on that particular day. Most all mach 1s are pretty consistent on power. Autos vary alittle more than the manuals do. We have weighed several f-bodies on a local scale(my car too) and they were all heavy

[03svt89fivepointO]

couldn't have said it better myself......thumbs up dude.=)

[f3nixfire]

Ive also seen plenty of bone stock LS1s put down 300 rwhp and about 325-330 rwtq. Obviously thats more than the 320 hp they are rated for. A manual LS1 with 15% drivetrain loss will make 345 crank hp and 380 crank tq. These cars were under rated from the factory. Now you would think that a TA has a huge advantage because it makes more power but you would be wrong. A bone stock manual mach 1 weighs 3357 lbs(no driver). A bone stock manual LS1 weighs 3627 lbs. Mach 1: 10.08 lbs/hp TA: 10.48 lbs/hp

[arkitekt7]

You need to remove the set of weights from the trunk of your LS1. My 02 M6 WS6 weighed 3452 with me in it at the track with 3/4 of a tank of gas. It has all options including T-Tops, full power options, everything. My bud has an 01 SS with the solid top, no power options, cloth manual seats and his weighs around 3200 without him in it.

[f3nixfire]

F-bodies are NOT known for being light at all. Sorry but in my experience every f-body ive seen weighed were no less than 3500 lbs so I dont see how your getting those numbers. 3200 lbs? Ya I dont buy it. MAYBE gutted, but not stock, sorry.

[arkitekt7]

Sorry, you shouldn't buy it. I did not mean to type with me in it. That was the weight with me NOT in it. And it was bone stock. And no... never "3200 pounds" I don't weigh anywhere near 252#'s!!! We've had a few stock Mach's in to dyno and their numbers are more consistant but they have ranged more than 5-10HP. In the last year the range has been from 281.7 to 301.1RWHP on the stock Mach's. Again, sorry for the weight confusion.

[f3nixfire]

Ok I dont know where someone is getting their numbers, but some of you need some education. Considering that I own a 2004 Azure Blue Mach 1 and that I have several local friends with LS1 powered camaros and trans ams(i like the T/As over the camaros) these cars dont put down what the factory rates them at.

Bone stock my car put down 283.3 rwhp and 320 rwtq and I have the dyno graph to prove it. Its a 5 speed manual with 15% drivetrain loss which means it made 333 crank hp and 368 crank tq.

[arkitekt7]

firebird = stock camaro (v6's)

formula

Trans-am = Z28

WS6 = SS (though WS6 times were better)

Firehawk (composed of both formula's and Transams) only model with major SLP options(340HP rating)

[arkitekt7]

I believe you that you beat all the LS1's but drivers make up for it. The LS1 cars are simply faster and handle better. Mach1 Max horsepower 305 @ 5800 0-60 mph5.30 0-100 mph13.23 1/4 mile, sec @ mph13.80 @ 102.5 Braking, 60-0 mph, ft119 600-ft slalom, mph62.5 LS1 (2001-2002 cars) Max horsepower 320-325 0-60 mph4.77 0-100 mph12.62 1/4 mile, sec @ mph13.4 @ 107.1 Braking, 60-0 mph, ft117 600-ft slalom, mph64.7

[666hades666]

btw, check out my other YouTube profile: "RaceMyLS1"

[666hades666]

SLP only worked on 96-97 WS6's. ACS worked on all later WS6 cars.

[f3nixfire]

i raced several ls1 fbodies at the track when my mach was bone stock. i beat every single one but it was a close race everytime. truth be told a mach 1 and an ls1 stock vs stock manual vs manual is a dead even race. Both cars have the same ETs and trap speeds and only vary by driver. I won because i was the better driver that day. Once the mods start going on tho all bets are off. You can look up vids of bone stock machs beating ls1 fbodies and the other way around.

[edhardy604]

T/A won... not by much tho ... but it still won!!

[imdaweiner]

stang guy here and the LS1 ate the machs ass. Plain and simple.

[06superchargedbalt]

man that mach 1 got pwned...love the LSx series.

[ws6formulas]

PONTIAC FUCKIN OWNS !!!!!

[zlatan8910]

8 sec car for cheap? deaaam boy u stupid

[madonnarules]

dont matter american muscle rules looks hotter than any import anyway, muscle car is better than rice wanna be !

[darkside010]

lol u wanna know why u still smoke new gt's its because the ls1 is a beast of an engine. heres a tip new heads and cam and the ls1 ws6 push about 500hp cheap upgrades for lots of power

[JeepXtreme4x4]

I know.. Isn't it crazy how I still smoke brand new GT's with my 12 year old WS6 LS1..? Haha..

[SpyderRios]

the mach 1 is a 5 year old model and still smokes a new GT as well. the ws6 was to compete with the svt cobra which is now a shelby gt500 in either case the ws6 will loose. the trans am had no z28 version so the mustang gt had no direct competition from the firebird model.

[666hades666]

Camaro SS = Trans Am WS6

Camaro Z28 = Trans Am or Firebird Formula

Camaro V6 = Firebird V6

True, the Mustang GT could not compete with these vehicles, that's what the Cobra's were for..

[jessiejames2012]

trans am owns!lol

[gypsieborat]

umm......... vettes came witha 350 horse 350. You ppl with those jap crap pieces of shit just make me giggle.

[NUNPUNCHER714]

sure those foreign cars may produce a significant amount of horse power, but look at how expensive they get... if i took the 50k or more it takes to buy a mercedes i could have any car that runs an 8 second 1/4 mile. when you buy american muscle, you do buy raw power at an affordable price, and you get a little piece of history. your just another internet punk that just has to talk shit to anyone he see's. oh and by the way its not a ws3.... its a ws.6 my daughter. ;)

[apexak]

lol poor mustangs, always getting picked on.

[purplesmoke101]

for example. STI loses to ws6/cobra/SS's the sti is turbo'd with awd and it cant take n/a "american junk" granted cobra is sc'd but thats ford.haha.......i rest my case...shhh

[purplesmoke101]

idk bout all that...granted japanese cars get more miles out of them but american cars arent junk...go slow your role offline.......plz...

[purplesmoke101]

THESE CARS ARENT MADE TO RUN TOGETHER IN THE SAME CLASS ITS LIKE THE MACH 1 RUNNING A SVT COBRA. LT1 VS. MACH1 or SVT VS. LS1.

[pureadrenaline25]

are you serious? mach 1 isnt as fast bottomline and the ws6 is a junk motor for 5.7 liters to only put out 320 hp no engineering at all. and a cobra that is SC only running 12.7 or 12.5 is slow for a supercharged v8 civics and s2000's 350z's are runningthat with turbos and sc.. face it americans build junk cars is why they are losing tojapanese cars likemy acura :) ur car is big , cheap, and horribly unreliable, with a big inefficient motor that horrible on gas has no power for displacement

[trader997]

whatever you say man, i would see your trash can in my rearview mirror the hole race. The best acura ever built was an nsx with 290hp and 224torque which sucks when compare to mach1, ls1, lt1, vette, cobra and so on... i would like to know why your watching a clip with american cars if you hate them. Do i look at clips like evo vs sti or whatever...Grow up and stop being jealous of our cars, go buy one and you'll never lose a race again loser.

[ms420247]

dude...the new all wheel drive acura tl is a fucking beasT

my friend just picked one up and it is sick sick.def a v8 eater! dont knock imports! I know kids with b18 honda motors spankin stanks and trans ams...

[NateDoner]

Having a fast honda is alot like coming out of the closet....at first everyone is shocked but in the end your still a FAG!!!!

[Ls1Willis]

lmao nice

[burr117]

Grow up??... as u bash him over the internet, LOL. I think you need to listen to urself here. An why r u bashing imports..? Its a different style of car for different ppl. Not ur choice... Kool. Maybe it fits someone else. But just cuz u DONT like it doesnt give u the right to bash him, or it. An callin him a loser LOL!! There is always someone better an faster my friend. So your a loser too :D

[NUNPUNCHER714]

dude i watched pass time a few nights ago and there was an svt cobra and it only ran a 14.4 supercharged.... thats weak son. ive seen a stock ls1 run 13.3 at the local track. and thats a decent time for a stock motor.

[adnamarie]

that svt either has serious problems or the driver was horrible.

[RaceMyLS1]

That Mach1 is not a SVT vehicle. And that is the typical outcome of a stock Mach1 racing a stock LS1 (assuming both drivers are equal)..

[SpyderRios]

svt means ford special vehicle team. the engine in the mach was basically the same as the cobra but tuned a bit different. so yeah its a svt car. plus the mach 1 and trans am are dead even in a race, the trans am has a few more ponies, but the mach 1 has better gears, a higher rev line and its ligher. so both cars dead even my friend. things would be different if it was a mustang GT. and there I do see the gt loosing to the trans am but not the mach 1.

[666hades666]

What are the numbers of a newer Shelby GT? I consistently was beating down a Shelby GT this past summer at the track. It was black, with two faded stripes up the middle, and it also had hood pins. It came like that from the factory..

[SpyderRios]

the shelby GT is basically the same engine in the mustang gt so maybe 13.7 quarter mile. the difference of the shelby are the aesthethics and I think the exhaust system but that I am not sure. so basically a dressed up gt.

[SpyderRios]

a 2004 svt cobra runs 12.9 sometimes less. what you probably saw was a v6 mustang trying to appear like a cobra which happens a lot of times. dont be fooled, by this people. if you were to know about cars, you will hear the cobra engine out of a v6 mustang who probably runs 14.4 with a cheap ass supercharger. lol that was funny.

[rcowboy4]

it was a mach one not a cobra

[SpyderRios]

I know the car in this video is a Mach 1, I was referring to a comment from a guy who said a supercharged cobra was running 14.4 in one of his comments.

[rcowboy4]

gotcha came in late on that one

[camirocz]

if he says a supercharged cobra runs14.4 dont even bother with him he obviously knows nothing.

[SpyderRios]

you are right.

[Mking0072121]

14.4 what are you talkin about , sounds like your just spiting out numbers

[SpyderRios]

what are you talking about.

[purplesmoke101]

jawbreaker500 u sound like one of those kids that headlines 6:00 news after killing yourself in a street race...drive what gets you a to b (dont be another ignorant rich kid with a fast car) too many these days.

[purplesmoke101]

uh oh, someone read the owners manual

[1999BlackDakotaRT]

I see a lot of comments about Chevy VS Ford and Ford VS Mopar, or Mopar VS Chevy. I say screw that, it should be Chevy,Pontiac, Buick, Dodge, Chrysler, AMC and Ford against all the USA traders driving imports!

[twp35]

Long live the American muscle cars....all of them.

[zr1ls9vette]

stock mach 1's fastest times were high 13's. ls1,s i ahve seen 13 flat and in smone cases 12.9 heres a link.

99 Pontiac Firebird Formula Ram Air

5.7 L 346.0 cu in LS1

320 hp @ 5200 rpm 345 ft.-lb. torque @ 4400 rpm

13.15 sec quarter mile @ 108.27 mph

0 to 30 2.08 sec

0 to 60 4.94 sec

Manual 6 Speed with 3.42 Gears

3341 lbs curb weight

Test by Popular Mechanics

[crowdcontrol792]

I know thats a fact. My first car was an RX-7. I'll admit I got that thing around sideways more than once. For a new driver, I'd recommend a front wheel drive or all wheel drive any day. Iriconically, I'm driving an SRT-4 now, after I learned how to drive a rear wheel drive. Oh well, at least its good on gas and kinda peppy.

[josepy121380]

yeah your wrong guy. machs are slow stock.

[MaJixGAGT]

Trans am FTW don't hate what u cant beat

[grindking10000]

what?

[grindking10000]

way too much car for a little kid to attempt to handle. Have fun when you put it in a ditch being dumb and end up in the ER.

[srt4racerx]

dont waste your life with a trans am at 16..start off with a 91 honda accord...but seriously if you do get it take it easy dawg

[tdv1985]

goodbye pony car

[RSandCS]

your saying a stock corvette lingenfelter 427 cant beat a mach 1? LOL.

i dont have a favorite car manufacturer. your just not very bright.

[Magnuspire]

That "garbage" just ate a fucking Mach 1. Just keep running your mouth and he'll probably keep killing Mach 1s.

[outlawchevy87]

stock mach vs stock t/a lol ford better park his pos

[mustangman6579]

If the mach is stock, the WS6 will always beat it, only the cobras in stock form gave them a run. (not counting the '03-'04 or '07 Cobras) man, makes me miss My Cobra, oh well.

[1969MustangMACH1]

both are awesome cars! who cares who won! their both badass!

[uniondude31]

i't sorry to break this to you ford people, but once again, MUSTANGS ARE OVERATED. people think when they hear "mustang" oh its a fast car! NOT!!!!! U can get a GM with a bigger motor and better performance for less than the GT. Sorry the 5.4L cobra, and even the GT's 4.6L, Just can't match GM for their 5.7L and the other big ones being made!!! GM ALL THE WAY!!!!

[ChrissGT]

uniondude,

Engine liter size doesn't mean anything.

The 2.4L ariel atom makes 500 horsepower and could roast your big bad 5.7L. and no, you can't buy a new camaro or GTO for less than a GT. GT's start at $24,900, quit bashing us. GM has always been more expensive than Ford.

Nice race, both cars are sweet.

[mustangman6579]

lol, and lets not forget that you CANNOT buy a New F-body atm

[94OJGT]

ls1's are badass motors, what carried those t-a's, too bad they built crap around the motor =S... my buddy has an 02 ws6 and has been fixing small things since day 1. i drive my 94 gt HARD. and have had only a bad idle problem which was due to maf sensor being dirty.

[mystang115]

I dont know why people always argue mustangs suck and gm's are better, or vice versa! Its really stupid. I walk some ls1's, get killed by others. Its all different. By the way I drive a 2006 mustang! Not a GT....just the v6. It all depends on driver ability. There is a video on here of a mustang v6 racing a v6 mazda6 and kicking the crap outta it. Then they switched drivers, and the mazda6 kicks the crap outta the stang. A lot of racing is driver ability!

[mustangwner2003V6]

no it only boils down to whos got the deeper pockets to play around with, then after that its all upon the drivers to complete the race then you will know whos the winner. They got N/A v6 mustangs running 10sec's down the drag.. 8 sec's fully modded down the drag. it all depends again whos got the deeper pockets anyone can make anything fast. just to many cocky assholes out there who they are better just because they can afford somthing more then others..

[stephentard]

I'm pretty sure the only "LS1" you have beaten is a ls1 body style v6. Sorry, but even the new GT's are slower than stock LS1's.

[chadtard]

ummm youve never "walked some ls1s" in a v6 mustang, im a mustang fan and even i think that youre an idiot. maybe youve beaten some ls1s that didnt know they were racing you, but other than that, youre full of shit

[pimpaho29]

if you watch this video and thought the stang would win .... ur a fool i don't care 2v or 4v unless these cars are are charged or got spray you loss and trust me im as big a ford fan as you are but when it comes down to it these cars stock gm's pumping ford it the butt

[07grandprixgt]

Nice cars, nice race!!

[trunner0111]

thats a nice color blue rare

[FMX891807]

With even drivers the race is well in favor of the LS1. Although a mach 1 gets a lot more respect from me than a GT. Its just not going to do it, especially from a dig. Been there, done that. The mach is almost a half second slower.

[LUDE4LIFE1]

Nice.  It is rare to see trans am's in a blue.

[Camaroheat3400]

i know and I dont understand it cause they look so good. nice race. the mustang held in there pretty good.

[black99z28]

Oh yea, and sweet color. Also, thumbs up for the ws6 wing on the formy, i dont care for flushmount formula wings

[QK99Cobra]

Nice T/A man, is that a factory color?

[COBALTGLAM220]

you've got one wicked TA!! I'm loving the color!!

[napalm84]

T/A ftw!!