@messiiironaldo It is a good thing we ישראלים\יהודים don't worship anything named god or anything that is found on any planet in the universe. Thanks for the comment.
ok so could you tell me the difference between a jew-ish person and a hill billy cause in my eyes yall all the same cause a hill billy could convert to a jew-ish person and fit right in with yall i could bet yall blood and dna is all the same so show me the difference yall might born in different countries but the end of the day yall all started from one place before yall knew about ships ;)
@youfinito Like I said, Hebrew Israelites have a different way of looking at everything. The Torah of Am Yisrael welcomes anyone who wants to convert. That is what a Geir is.
Definition of BUY transitive verb 1 : to acquire possession, ownership, or rights to the use or services of by payment especially of money : purchase 2 a : to obtain in exchange for something often at a sacrifice(they bought peace with their freedom) b : redeem 6 3 : bribe, hire 4 : to be the purchasing equivalent of (the dollar buys less today than it used to) 5 : accept, believe (I don't buy that hooey) —often used withinto
@youfinito The problem with your statement is that we are not talking about English we are talking about Ivrith. The word (והתמכרתם) only means "ONE" thing. "And you will sell yourselves." It is a Hitpael verb, which means it is reflexive. Claiming that it means something that doesn't fit the language supports that either someone doesn't know the language or said person's text says something different.
@youfinito Once again your statements don't match the language of the text. We are talking about an Ivrith text, which means that the rules of the Ivrith language determine its meaning. English definitions don't determine the meaning of an Ivrith verb. If you go back to 3:34 to break down the actual grammar of the text. We are speaking a non-English language text and the grammar of Ivrith is what determines what the text means.
@Ehav4Ever STOP IT "JEW-ISH" BOY THAT WON'T WORK BLAME THE DICTIONARY WHAT YOUR "ANCESTORS" WROTE GIVE IT UP I BET YOU ALSO GOT AN OTHER TERM FOR WHAT "ISH" MEANS ALSO LOL
@1shadowlaw So then you agree that Hebrew Israelites have a different dictionary and texts. So you pretty much proved the point of the video. Hebrew Israelites have a different text, different understandings, and different terms.
@MoorsAreIsraelites And I stated that it has a LOT more problems then a "few" translation issues. I also discussed that your translation of Gen. is not held by Teimanim, Hhabashim, Sephardhim, Ari'im, Hhasidhim, Mizrahhim, or Maghrebim ישראלים\יהודים. KJV is also the bible of Christians so it is only authoritative to christian/nazerene/ebonite types. You can do the video on any topic you want at this point. You have pretty informally answered everything.
I looked at a show on Oprah Winfrey's OWN network. On there a Hhasidhim family had a KJV bible in their home. So what are you talkng about?
The bible is the book of Israel only. Nobody else. Christians was nothing more but Jews that learned under the Messiah & his students. That is all. The name Christian was given to Paul & his followers by the Judean community of Syria. Paul & his followers was Judeans. Only a Jew could be a so-called Christian according to scriptures.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Some Chasidic families in Chabad in America are very similar to christians. There are some of them that believe that Rabbi Mendel Shnerson is the Messiah. That is why some of them in Brooklyn are considered to be just as off base as yeshu's followers. They believe in the same kind of non-sense that yeshu followers do. Further, that is why they are also consider Minim/heretics/cut off by many.
Look I'm done with this convsersation for now. The reason I got on you is because you was saying misinformed things about us Israelites here in the Americas. I got to practice for the Pesach. I'll talk with you in a few weeks.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I told you from the start what you guys go by has different texts, different terms, and different understandings. If we were talking about the same thing we would have agreed from the start and have had no differences. Your own comments make these things apparent.
@MoorsAreIsraelites One more point I would like to make. It seems as if your real issue is with your fellow Hebrew Israelites who are missed informed about what they should be going by. Everything in the video I presented were quotes from various individual Hebrew Israelites, some of whom you also said did not do their research. You may need to contact them and get them on the same page with you. They are part of the reason your beliefs are not clear to a lot of people.
I have knowledege. Not belief. There's thousands of Israelite congregations here in the Americas from Canada to South America. So that fellow Israelite you was talking about in your video didn't know the torah well and I don't know him at all. All Israelites in the Americas don't know each other.
I'm not baby sister. Those brothers have to fast & medidate,pray to the Most High for undestanding.
Do you chase everybody down who don't have understand the torah? I doubt it
@MoorsAreIsraelites I actually do chase after my people who don't have the correct understanding of תורת אמת. That is one of the reasons that I take part in forums and I deal with people everyday on this matter. I have a responsibility to יהוה to correct all of my fellow ישראלים\יהודים. There are several places in תורת אמת where this is spelled out as the responsibility of all בני ישראל that is to be a light to the nations.
lol. All of Israel will not make it according to prophecy. You know nothing.
Zec 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith HaShem, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried; they shall call on My name, and I will answer them; I will say: 'It is My people', and they shall say: 'The HaShem is my G-d
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yes, again you are correct I don't anything about Hebrew Israelite theology/information/concepts etc. as I stated in the video. It is something completely different than what is held by ישראלים\יהודים which I know about.
How know that's talking about the future. Because right now there are pagan idols in the land of Israel due to false doctrines such as Christianity,Islam,etc
Zec 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith HaShem of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered; and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yes, you are correct that there are all idols and yeshu and his followers were responsible for that. Yet, a day will come in the future when all of the yeshu, new testament, KJV, etc. nonsense will put aside and only תורת אמת will be there.
@MoorsAreIsraelites We aren't talking about a messiah, we are talking about yeshu. Hebrew Israelites may think yeshu was there messiah, but that is a KJV fantasy. Besides, we all know that there are no "original" new testament texts in Hebrew. The earliest were greek and then aramaic so posting a line in עברית nonsense.
@MoorsAreIsraelites ומינים אצל חכמים הם הכופרים מישראל... ופקפקו בתורה והנביאים עליהם השלום מתוך סכלותם, ומכחישים את הנבואה במה שאין להם בו ידיעה, ועוזבים את המצוות מתוך זלזול, והכת הזו היא כת של ישוע הנוצרי
@MoorsAreIsraelites Matthew 8:22 Let the dead bury the dead = anti-Torah. John 14:12 & Mark 16:17-18 = עבודה זרה , John 14:13-14 = עבודה זרה , Matthew 5:43 = הבניא שקר , Matthew 12:5 = הנביא שקר , and there are many more. Like I said, if Hebrew Israelites believe that someone who died is their messiah and he will return to be messiah that is truly עבודה זרה.
@MoorsAreIsraelites No, I am talking about the copy and paste job you are doing now. Where your pasted something with the word Hashem in it. YOU posted it.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Here is why I chase my fellow ישראלים\יהודים down when it comes to truth. מצוה על כל אדם לאהוב את כל אחד ואחד מישראל כגופו, שנאמר "ואהבת לריעך כמוך" (ויקרא יט,יח). לפיכך צריך שיספר בשבחו ולחוס על ממונו, כמו שהוא חס על ממון עצמו ורוצה בכבוד עצמו; והמתכבד בקלון חברו, אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
@MoorsAreIsraelites Further, הרואה את חברו שחטא, או שהוא הולך בדרך לא טובה--מצוה להחזירו למוטב, ולהודיעו שהוא חוטא על עצמו במעשיו הרעים: שנאמר "הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך" (ויקרא יט,יז so as you can see it is a requirement to do so. Thus when I see one of my own falling short I do what I can because I would expect them to do the same for me.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Further, you say you have knowledge and not belief. The others have said the EXACT same thing. If you want I can send you a list of them. It may be good for you to network with them. If you guys are in the America's it would seem prudent for you guys to start networks because there are LOT of people who are confused by you guys and how dramatically different your messages are.
Ummm. LOT of ppl are not confused from our synagogue. Others probably.NOT US.
Speaking of confusion. You told a Benjamin(Jamaican) sister named SmilelyFace here on youtube 2 years ago that it was okay for her to stay married to Edomite(so-called white boy). When the torah clearly speaks against that.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Like I said, Hebbrew Israelites have a different text. If your bible states that a Edomite is a "white boy" and that a "Jamaican woman" is a Benjaminite is, then you have proven my point. Different texts and different understandings. You should probably try convincing her she is a Benjaminite. I have seen nothing of her saying that she is. Oh I forgot, she doesn't know it but you do.....right! ;-)
There you go again. don't you know there's a prophecy of Israelites losing there heritage for awhile and getting it back. smh. You need to read the Torah. Eze 37:6
יחזקאל 37:6 Hebrew Bible
ונתתי עליכם גדים והעלתי עליכם בשר וקרמתי עליכם עור ונתתי בכם רוח וחייתם וידעתם כי אני יהוה׃
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Eze. is a part of the the Hebrew Israelite Tharawah and it says that Jamaicans in it then it is definitely a different text and you definitely have different understanding and terms. Also, you obviously have different definitions of terms of the word Jamaicans shows up in your text.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I didn't see Jamaican in that anywhere. Which word is the Jamaican part? I also didn't see any proof that this is connected to her particular family.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Then you should work on getting you other Hebrew Israelite friends in line like ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD whom you said did not do his research. He was the one claiming that something was Yiddish that you say is not. That way all of you would be on the same page. Unless that doesn't matter.
cont- Tobit 4:12 Beware of all whoredom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father's tribe: for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: remember, my son, that our fathers from the beginning, even that they all married wives of their own kindred, and were blessed in their children, and their seed shall inherit the land.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Like I said your Tharawah is different than תורת משה because name calling isn't done except when the opposite is from a different and non-connected branch of people. That is why yeshu followers are on the outside because they lead people astray into all kind of nonsense. I also that yeshu was good at contradicting himself and then name calling those who called him out on it. So if that is his path and you follow it then I understand.
@Ehav4Ever You are right I have not studied ever the Hebrew Israelite Tharawah. It is a foreign text with foreign understandings not found here in the region.
I guess you forgot that some of our Judean ancestors was capture & brought here to Americas & rest of the world. Massa didn't give them time run back home to get their torah before capturing them. And those that immigrated here,their childrenstop following Most High's torah and begin to live the american lily white dream. There won't be any showing who passed down a torah.
@MoorsAreIsraelites One other point. If you have the time to go back and forth with me for the last few weeks, and I don't even live in the America's, then it stands to reason that you do have time to help elevate your fellow Hebrew Israelites who you say have not done their research, and live in the same country as you.
I been teaching the torah on the streets & at home for 4years. Brothers & sisters always come to me for questions whether on you tube, email, phone call & on the streets. I have fruit in LA,CA,IL,etc.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Good I am glad you have fruit. You have a lot more work to do. So you do agree then, against your previous statement, that you do have a responsibility to your fellow Hebrew Israelites. So you also have a responsibility to the ones who mislead people about concepts of those who call themselves "Hebrew Israelites."
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yes, the famous Hebrew Israelite name calling. You do have that in common with the others when you can't deliver on some of your points.
Ezekiel was a name caller & called Israel an harlot (hooker). Don't you know your torah? I guess not. This a shame. I'm younger than you & know the torah better than you. LOL. Eze 16:35
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Ezekiel is a part of your Tharawah then you are right I don't know it. Since we are also agreed that Hebrew Israelites have different understands you are correct I don't know the Hebrew Israelite line of thinking. Besides, if you guys believe in yeshu then we are definitely not coming with the same text or understandings.
@MoorsAreIsraelites An English quote doesn't mean much to me. Anyone can quote such a thing in English and claim it refers to them. Christians do that all of the time. If it is applicable to something bring it down as it was originally written and show a proven historical connection to its meaning to your point.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I thought you guys called it a Tharawah. Which one is it? So we are in agreement on that those who call themselves Hebrew Israelites have differnt understandings. Now we are getting somewhere, and you have dropped the KJV nonsense I see. Next when you drop the yeshu business we will have even more groundwork.
Even white jew-ish historians are proven that the jews today are not suppose to be in israel, and if they are what happened to the other 11 tribes, you fake jews cant wiggle yourselves out of this one , what about song of solomon 1:5 i am black a comely, why would he say that . job 30:30 my skin is black and what about joel3:2-9 and sold a girl for wine . THIS ONLY HAPPENED TO NEGROID GIRLS , HISTORY EVEN TEACHES THAT!
@lostisraeljudah Like I said, people who call themselves Hebrew Israelite, go by different texts, different understandings, and different terms. There is no one who has "proven" who is and who is not supposed to be in Israel. Such a thing has no basis in historical research. Besides, there aren't any white historians Jewish or not who claim that Blacks in the Americas are supposed to be here so your point is mute.
they use the king James bible Deut 28:68 Bring thee black into Egypt again by ships by the way whereof i spoke unto thee, Thou shall see it no more again "by the way whereof i spoke unto thee, Thou shall see it no more again" means the way "Egypt" where God spoke to Israel, they shall see it no more again before verse 68 Deuteronomy 17:16 nor cause the people to return to Egypt, forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way, fulfilled by Roman empire
@TzuNation That is good to here that someone is being honest and clear. So there is a difference between Hebrew Israelites and ישראלים\יהודים just as I pointed out in the video.
Concerning the issue of the languages presented in this video. I have added some links in the description that prove what languages are used in this video.
@Ehav4Ever Hebrew (/ˈhiːbruː/) (עִבְרִית, Ivrit, About this sound Hebrew pronunciation (help·info)) is a Semitic language of the Afroasiatic language family.
Culturally, it is considered by Jews and other religious groups as the language of the Jewish people,
so the jews speaking original hebrew is as real as santa,they only claim they speak biblical hebrew the same as their claim to be the tribe of judah,a black nation"
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD You still didn't answer my question. Question, the script that I show at 2:24 in the video, is that also Yiddish to you? If not what it is it? Also, please provide a page from what you consider "original" to be also also translate said page.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Another question for you. The Dead Sea Scrolls, are they written in Yiddish? Also, provide a picture of a page of what "you" call Hebrew of Exodus 20.
@Ehav4Ever you should do your own research but type in"Most Ancient Hebrew Biblical Inscription Deciphered, Scholar Says".this is not moses hebrew but it lets you see how much hebrew has changed ,dead sea scrolls are not in yiddish,
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD It should obvious that "my" research and "your" research aren't going to give the same results. I am asking "you" because you have made claims that are contradictory to claims of other Hebrew Israelites I have met. I still would like "you" to point out what "you" say Hebrew is. Your comment about the dead sea scrolls should be a dead give away of why I am asking this question.
@Ehav4Ever Hebrew (/ˈhiːbruː/) (עִבְרִית, Ivrit, About this sound Hebrew pronunciation (help·info)) is a Semitic language of the Afroasiatic language family.
contradictory to claims about what?not all israelites agree,just like not all chinese or indians agree
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD I find it strange that not all Hebrew Israelites agree. If you guys don't even agree on the basics of what, for example, is actually Hebrew and what isn't that is a bit strange. Chinese are not all the same people so of course they share no connection. For example, Hans, Zhuang, and Bai don't share a similar historical context. They are only connected due to conquest not ethnic origin.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD some of the contridictory claims I have seen from H.I.'s are the following. Some H.I. believe in Jesus some don't. Some H.I. claim that King James was a H.I. some claim he was not. Some H.I.'s claim that Ge'ez is Paleo Hebrew so claim it was something else. Some H.I.'s claim that the deceased yahweh ben yahweh is their savior some say he is not. Some Hebrew Israelites use a form of Hebrew "you" call Yiddish and say it is in fact Hebrew.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Some Hebrew Israelites disagree about whether all American Blacks are Israelites.The origin stories of the various Hebrew Israelites differ in terms of their claims of being African. Some Hebrew Israelite claim to be moors others say they are not. Some Hebrew Israelites claim that mount sinai is in one place while others claim it was somewhere else. So Hebrew Israelites claim that Israelites came from the Igbos in NIgeria others say this is not so.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Here are some examples of various Hebrew Israelites I have found. The actual origin of B. H. I.s stretches back to before the Civil War. In 1896 there was a sect founded in Kansas by William Crowdy. Shortly after that, new congregations sprouted in several major cities, and by the 1980s other sects began to appear.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Yahweh Ben Yahweh, otherwise known by the authorities as Hulon Mitchell, Jr. led one section and other sects include the Commandment Keepers, The Law Keepers, House of Judah, and the African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD you say that the dead sea scrolls are not yiddish. Are you including the Isaiah scroll in that? According to "your" research what language is the Isaiah scroll in? Also, please provide a source for Exodus 20 in what "you" call Hebrew or the Hebrew of Moses as you stated earlier.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD One other question for you. Are you saying that in "your" Hebrew Israelite "old testament" Ezra and Nehimaih were written in Paleo-Hebrew? Please provide a picture of said texts.
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Please also provide linguistic differences between what you call Paleo-Hebrew and Yiddish. I ask because I have yet to see a scholar claim that Paleo-Hebrew was language. They all say Paleo-Hebrew is a script/alphabet that looks exactly the same as the Phonecian scrpt.
@MoorsAreIsraelites So then my next question is what is the Aleppo Codex in Assyrian square Hebrew or is it in Yiddish? Also, can you define what "Hebrew Israelites" consider Hebrew to be by showing a page of the "Hebrew Israelite" version of Exodus 20? Thanks.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Now this brings up an interesting point. In the video I present several pages of the Aleppo Codex and IsraeliteKnuckleHead and several other Hebrew Israelites claimed it was Yiddish. So it seems like there is a disagreement about what is what here.
@MoorsAreIsraelites So you are saying they are incorrect? They seem to claim that their version is the true Hebrew Israelite one. They also claim that they have done the research. Like I said earlier about the whole Seti and Farrakan thing. Every group is claiming some things that completely contradict the other. Someone has to be wrong, even within the Hebrew Israelite circles if there are contradictions.
lol. We read the same Exodus 20 in Hebrew in the Torah.
If you look at the Los Lunas Stone in New Mexico. It has partially Exo 20 in Paleo-Hebrew script. It been vandalized by ppl over the years. I advised you to get old pic of the Los Lunas Stone.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I don't think you understand what I am getting at. I am asking for you and other Hebrew Israelites to show a page of what you consider Hebrew to be because several of you have claimed Hebrew to be different things. One H.I. claimed that Paleo-Hebrew is a language. Are you claiming that the Los Lunas Stones were put there by Hebrew Israelites from Africa?
@MoorsAreIsraelites Also, I think you mis-understood. I am not asking for just part of Exodus 20 I am asking you to show me the "Hebrew Israelite" version of all of Exodus 20 there is a specific part of it that will prove the points I was making earlier. The Los Lunas stone is interpreted to be an abridged version of the Decalogue.
We read the Exo 20 the same in Torah as our brothers & distant relatives in Israel,Africa, Asia,Europe ,etc
KJV is just a English translation of the Tanakh & Hebrew NT. The NT was originally written in Hebrew.
KJV Bible is strictly an Israelite book. The gentiles that Paul taught was Israelites that forgotten their nationality & custom due to observing Greco-Roman customs. Also Paul kept the law(Torah). I'll make vis about this soon. Shalam.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yet, you say that Los Lunos stone ws written by Hebrew Israelites. I read the stone and it has some glaring differences with the Torah of ישראלים\יהודים so are you saying that the texts I presented in this video for the Torah are what H.I.'s go by? If so this contradicts what other Hebrew Isrealites who say that what I presented is YIddish.
Yes, the Los Lunas Ten Commandment Stone was written by the 10 tribes from the Northern Kingdom when they arrived in the Americas in 722-721 B.C. ( II Esdras(Ezra) 13:39-48). Yes,we have tanakhs just as you do.Some of us even have torah rolls.
@MoorsAreIsraelites My question is concerning the wording of the Los Lunos stone. Is that the wording that shows up in the Hebrew Israelite tanakhs or torah rolls?
@MoorsAreIsraelites I have two requests when you do your video. 1) Please gives the names of the "Hebrew Israelites" that your people say transmitted your "Tharawah", and your understandings of it, from 1500 BCE to the present time. 2) Please provide a close up picture of Tharawah roll and the name of the "Hebrew Israrelite" that transcribed it. Also, remember that I asked about ALL of Exodus 20 not just the Ten Commandments.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Also, if H.I.'s consider KJV to be a Hebrew Israelite book we are definately not the same people and we definately don't go by the same text. We consider the KJV to be completely invalid and we do not beleive in jesus/yeshu/yeshua/yahshua/etc.. We ישראלים\יהודים also consider the new testament to be an invalid group of texts and it is of the christians.
That's not true. There's many Israelites from the homeland Canaan & around the world that believe in the Messiah. We don't worship him. We just admit he is the spiritual son of the Most High & deliver of Israel. And he wasn't born of virgin birth as believed. Joseph & Miriam(Mary) was his earthly parents. Joseph descend from Solomon, Mary descend from Nathan. Both of David's bloodline. Messiah is prophecised in the torah.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Hebrew Israelites may consider yeshu to be the messiah but ישראלים\יהודים know that he is not. We know all about how yeshu was born and to whom. We also know that there are various xian interpretations about him, even the one you mentioned. He doesn't meet the requirements found in the Hebrew/Aramaic Tanakh we ישראלים\יהוידים read from. If you are saying he is in the Hebrew Israelite bible then we are not reading the same text.
lol. The Christians in the bible are actually Jews. Messiah only came & died fro Israel. Acts 5:29-31.
Well we not the same ppl as the Ashkenazi Jews( they are not the real jews) . But we are related to the Israelites that never left Canaan & others scattered around the world.
Did you know the some of the Israelites that never left Israel & others give us hugs & kisses when we arrive right off the plane? LOL. So you don't speak for all of them.
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Acts 5:29-31 is in the Hebrew Israelite bible then it not same as the Tanakh of ישראלים\יהודים found amongst the Teimanim, Hhabashim, Mizrahhim, Hasidhim, Dor Daim, Ari'iom, Maghrebim, and Sephardim. All of these ישראלים\יהודים do not use or go by the christian/nazerene texts of the followers of yeshu. If you are a follower of yeshu than you are definitely going by a different text and talking about something different.
Hmm. I have an article about original Sephardim Jews in Jamaica that had their graves facing east to Jerusalem because they believed in the Messiah & wanted to be resurrected when he returns in Jerusalem for Judgement Day.
@MoorsAreIsraelites If said people actually did follow christianity i.e. the belief that yeshu/jesus/yahshua/yahushua/etc. was who they believed messiah to be they were christians. In Jamaica this kind of assimilation did happen which why said people no longer exist as ישראלים\יהודים or their descendants dropped the whole yeshu thing and returned to true and untainted תורת משה. That is IF your story actually happened the way you claim.
Christianity is just a manmade term. There is no term Christianity in the NT. Christians was nothing more but Jews that believed & followed the teachings of the Messiah. That's all.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Whoever followed jesus/yeshu no matter whether they were Jewish or not are not are still following something that is not according to Torath Mosheh. Thus if you are like them then we are definitely talking about something different since yeshu and his followers are only valid to xians, messianics, and Black Hebrew Israelites.
Please don't use the unscientific term " Black Hebrew Israelite ". It's Israelites or Hebrew Israelites. Black is a color. Not a nationality. Also there's not a person in the world who skin is black as a tire. Our skin tone is from very dark brown to rosy red with diff hair textures & facial features.
Also the so-called Native Americans,Latinos,certain Southern Sicilians, Irish,etc are Israelites too.
@MoorsAreIsraelites It is a term used by a number of people who follow the same view as you so I am including them. Just because you don't agree with those who use the term doesn't mean you don't have something in common with them i.e. the yeshu stuff. If the so-called Native Americans,Latinos,certain Southern Sicilians, Irish,etc are Israelites are also your people it sounds like you may need to spend more time convincing more of them.
I don't use such terms such as black,white,latino, afro-american,brazilian,chilean,etc
I don't have to convince so-called black,NA, & latinos,etc that they are the Israelites. Here in Chicago a large number of so-called blacks,latinos,na know that they are Israelites.
@MoorsAreIsraelites You are correct I don't know anything about those who call themselves Hebrew Israelites and their philosophies, their texts, or their terminologies. Everything I know about the various types of Hebrew Israelites comes from the those who contact me and I take from their statements what they are about or not about.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Just to let you know, you have about a week to make a valid point and wrap it up. I generally give Hebrew Israelites a week and then I move on. I was nice in this situation and gave you a bit more time. If you are really going to make a video you may want to hurry up and make it so I can post my response video. I can tell by your comments which direction your video is going in so we can cut through to the point.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I will accept that as an "invalid statement" and thus conversation over. Since you can't answer yes or no questions yet you expect me to do graphics showing you what Ancient Ivrith is then you have proven my points for me. Hebrew Israelites are a different group of people with different texts, different terms, and different understandings. Conversation over. Thanks for sharing.
@MoorsAreIsraelites You are right that I don't read the KJV bible, as I stated in the video, or what you described as the Tharawah of the people who call themselves Hebrew Israelites. Like I said it is a different text, with a different name, different pronunciation, and different understandings.
@MoorsAreIsraelites So you are now saying you should teach your fellow Hebrew Israelites who you said didn't do their research. Okay, so that is a change from what you said before when you stated you were not their baby sitter. So by like token you should also be teaching the Kemetic, Nation of Islam, and Moorish Science Temple types. You have your work cut out for you. Good luck.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I wonder if he read song of solomon 1:5 i am black and comely, or what about JOEL 3:2-9 AND SOLD A GIRL FOR WINE SO THEY MIGHT DRINK. ALL THROUGH HISTORY IT WAS ONLY NEGROE GIRLS SOLD FOR WINE. PLUS MOST NATIONS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT GOES AROUND COME AROUND! THEM KHAZARS GOT TO PAY.
There's many scriptures in the Torah that speaks of the Messiah. You just wasn't taught correctly. Also, those Jews that followed the Messiah teachings never died out. Majority of their descendants fled into other countries,before,during & after the burning of Jerusalem by the Romans70 AD.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, I know more than you think about yeshu or whatever name people choose to call him. Those who followed yeshu/jesus did fall out and that is why one can't find names/dates/locations for them after about the 4th cent. that marked them as not being christian. Like I said if yeshu is a part of your Tharawah then we are definitely not using the same texts because yeshu definately did not follow or line up with תורת משה
Hmmm, then explain how so-called negro slaves knew about the Messiah before they was captured & shipped to the Americas. Before they was captured off West coast Africa. They was reading Psalms,Isaiah,Revelations in Arabic. Remember they spoke Hebrew, & Arabic. Some was Muslim by faith,But Israel by nationality. They knew who they were. Did you know majority of their names was Isa? which is arabic for ישוע .
@MoorsAreIsraelites If the people you describe were reading revelations (no matter the language) then they were christians. Knowing about yeshu means that they knew about the guy that the ebonites/nazerens "claimed" was their messiah. If Hebrew Israelites hold by yeshu then that is another difference, as I mentioned before. Like I said before those who follow yeshu are of the עובדי עבודה זרה.
@MoorsAreIsraelites If they knew about yeshu the נביא שקר it would have been brought to them by his followers who were עובדי עבודה זרה. On the other hand anyone can claim that a group of people showed up following this or that. It is another to show documented proof with I witness accounts and names of people who attest to said information.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I am not claiming to speak for anyone. I am speaking for everyone who goes by תורת משה and if there are people who accept yeshu then are a different group of people. Yet, like I stated before ישראלים\יהודים are known by the rejection of עבודה זרה and yeshu and his disciples taught עבודה זרה. Further, if the Hebrew Israelite bible contains the wording of the Los Lunos stone then it is a different text. I will do a video soon to explain why.
@MoorsAreIsraelites You still didn't answer my question. What I am asking you is about the wording on the Los Lunas stone. Is the wording found on the Los Lunos stone for the "Ten Commandments" exactly the same as the wording that can be found in Hebrew Israelite bibles and Torah rolls?
What are you talking about? Tanakh is tanakh. The Old Testament is nothing but the tanakh in english. Except thee might be a few translation errors.
For example in the OT (bible) Genesis 1:1 it saids God created the Earth .When in fact in original hebrew tanakh Bereshit 1:1 it's actually Ahlahayam(Elohim) aka Angels aka gods. אֱלֹהִים
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, it is not all the same. The xian old testament in English is not the same as the Tanakh of ישראלים\יהודים. The fact that you are translating אלהים as angels proves that point. Also, xian new testament texts, in both Greek and English, quote from the LXX or the Lenigrad Codex not from תגים that ישראלים\יהודים use such as the כתר. Further, xians consider texts like Psalms messianic, ישראלים\יהודים do not.
@MoorsAreIsraelites If one pulls out the תגים one will find more than just a "few" errors. One will find major differences in yeshu followers translations and how they understand said translations. One of the most famous comes from Sefer Daniel 9 where yeshu followers leave out the אתנחא in a critical part of the text thus giving them warped translation of the events. Also, yeshu followers add a "the" in a place where there is no "ה". There are a lot more.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Also, because Torah means more than just law, it also means "teaching" having a different understand of a text is further a different Torah. I will explain why in my comment about the Los Lunas stone.
I know that Tharawah(Torah) in Ibrayath ( Ivrit) means law. For your information I'm a direct paternal descendant of the Melungeon fromTennessee. Melungeons are descend from Sephardim Jews,Portuguese Jews,Moors,Moriscos, Jews from Africa,Turks.
So I 'm not ignorant of Israel's history or culture. Just letting you know.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I never claimed you to be "ignorant" I claimed you to be "different." If "Tharawah" is how you guys pronounce you law, and if it only means law as you seem to be pointing out we are talking about two different things. תורה in the language of ישראלים\יהודים means a lot more than just law. If the Sephardim you claim to descend from believed in the same things you are telling me now they were xians/nazerene like. I.e. מינים ומשומדים thus they are different.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, that is not the case when it comes to עבודה זרה. That is what causes ישראלים\יהודים to cut off those who willingly accept such. That is why the תורה instructs כרת for those who willingly take on עבודה זרה and false prophets/false messiah claimants. It is not just about belief because as we know עבודה זרה involves twisting facts and perverting them the way that yeshu and his followers did.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Especially, if the Los Lunos stones was written by your fellow Hebrew Israelites then someone made some major changes. That is why I keep asking if you can tell me if that stone is how your text writes the Ten Commandments? Is there a reason why you won't answer this question in a straight-forward manner?
man.. what are talking about? We read the same Ten Commandments in Hebrew just as you or others that live in Canaan (Israel) today. I'll show a Paleo-Hebrew sheet of the Ten Commandents in a upcoming vid. Kool down ahch.
@MoorsAreIsraelites The reason why I am asking this way is because I get the impression that you will show me something that does not answer the question. Like I said, the impression I am getting is that there is a reason why you won't answer the question is yes or no. Like I said I know what Paleo-Hebrew is and I can read it. I read the Los Lunos stone, which you prompted me to read, when I asked to see a copy of the Hebrew Israelite text.
@Ehav4Ever Ok. type the pronunciation of these words & names in Paleo-Hebrew. Let's see if you know Paleo-Hebrew. Here's the list door dream blue red chariot debt earth Judah Issachar Jerusalem Ephraim Elijah
@MoorsAreIsraelites Okay, I will type them and post them on my blog at hochmaumusar.blogspot.com. It will also show that we are not going by the same terms or even the same texts because what you call Paleo-Hebrew is different than עברית עתיקה.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I actually posted exactly what you asked for. You asked that I "type the pronunciation of these words & names in Paleo-Hebrew." You gave a list of "English" words and I visually showed what they are several scripts of עברית עתיקה. This not only proves that I can read/understand עברית עתיקה also shows that I know how to type in it also.
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Hebrew Israelites have a letter called "camel" in their language then this proves my point. You guys have a different group of texts, different terms, and different understandings. I will agree with you that I don't know "Hebrew Israelite" Hebrew, it is obviously a different language. I know עברית של הישראלים ויהודים .
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, YOU wrote "camel" in your earlier statement, so you may need to type things more concisely. You also wrote Torah roll in another place before claiming that your people call it Tharawah.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I wonder if he read song of solomon 1:5 i am black and comely, or what about JOEL 3:2-9 AND SOLD A GIRL FOR WINE SO THEY MIGHT DRINK. ALL THROUGH HISTORY IT WAS ONLY NEGROE GIRLS SOLD FOR WINE. PLUS MOST NATIONS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT GOES AROUND COME AROUND! YOU KHAZARS GOT TO PAY.
@lostisraeljudah Like I said everything you just stated is the "understandings" of the Hebrew Israelites. Yet, I notice you didn't deal with anything in the video. If the Hebrew Israelite bibles state what you said then that is Hebrew Israelite stuff.
Ahch,he knows the truth. He's just scared to tell that so-called African Americans are Israelites from the tribe of Judah. He's afraid of getting murdered or deported from the state of Israel. Also some of his family members has roots in Freemason doctrine. I definitely know he knows. I seen pic of Ehav throwing up the baphomet hand sign during his college days. Hmmm.
@MoorsAreIsraelites I have no fear of being deported or killed by anyone. Like I said those who call themselves Hebrew Israelites have a different group of texts, different understandings, and use different terms. Your comments prove this out.
@MoorsAreIsraelites Concerning, the picture you saw, when I was in college I joined a black fraternity, Phi Beta Sigma, which was not masonic. I also walked away from said fraternity when I decided that it was in conflict with the Torah. There is a video on YouTube where I explain all of that. I don't hide that nor am I ashamed of it. I made a choice and that is perfectly fine. <
jews/hebrew israelites both worship the bull god el.
messiiironaldo 2 hours ago
@messiiironaldo It is a good thing we ישראלים\יהודים don't worship anything named god or anything that is found on any planet in the universe. Thanks for the comment.
Ehav4Ever 1 hour ago
@Ehav4Ever i didn't say Israeli jews did worship anything named god, i said they worship the bull god' el '.
messiiironaldo 23 minutes ago
ok so could you tell me the difference between a jew-ish person and a hill billy cause in my eyes yall all the same cause a hill billy could convert to a jew-ish person and fit right in with yall i could bet yall blood and dna is all the same so show me the difference yall might born in different countries but the end of the day yall all started from one place before yall knew about ships ;)
youfinito 2 days ago
@youfinito Like I said, Hebrew Israelites have a different way of looking at everything. The Torah of Am Yisrael welcomes anyone who wants to convert. That is what a Geir is.
Ehav4Ever 2 days ago
youfinito 4 days ago
@youfinito The problem with your statement is that we are not talking about English we are talking about Ivrith. The word (והתמכרתם) only means "ONE" thing. "And you will sell yourselves." It is a Hitpael verb, which means it is reflexive. Claiming that it means something that doesn't fit the language supports that either someone doesn't know the language or said person's text says something different.
Ehav4Ever 3 days ago
they are different meanings to the word buy and sell
sell (sl)
v. sold (sld), sell·ing, sells
v.tr.
1. To exchange or deliver for money or its equivalent.
2. To offer for sale, as for one's business or livelihood: The partners sell textiles.
3. To give up or surrender in exchange for a price or reward: sell one's soul to the devil.
4. To be purchased in (a certain quantity); achieve sales of: a book that sold a million copies.
youfinito 4 days ago
@youfinito Once again your statements don't match the language of the text. We are talking about an Ivrith text, which means that the rules of the Ivrith language determine its meaning. English definitions don't determine the meaning of an Ivrith verb. If you go back to 3:34 to break down the actual grammar of the text. We are speaking a non-English language text and the grammar of Ivrith is what determines what the text means.
Ehav4Ever 3 days ago
@Ehav4Ever dont pull that bull crap your fake give it up
1shadowlaw 3 days ago
@1shadowlaw If you are saying that I am not a Hebrew Israelite, I agree. I am not a Hebrew Israelite, as I stated in the video. Thanks for viewing.
Ehav4Ever 3 days ago
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1shadowlaw 3 days ago
@Ehav4Ever STOP IT "JEW-ISH" BOY THAT WON'T WORK BLAME THE DICTIONARY WHAT YOUR "ANCESTORS" WROTE GIVE IT UP I BET YOU ALSO GOT AN OTHER TERM FOR WHAT "ISH" MEANS ALSO LOL
1shadowlaw 3 days ago
@1shadowlaw So then you agree that Hebrew Israelites have a different dictionary and texts. So you pretty much proved the point of the video. Hebrew Israelites have a different text, different understandings, and different terms.
Ehav4Ever 3 days ago
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MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites And I stated that it has a LOT more problems then a "few" translation issues. I also discussed that your translation of Gen. is not held by Teimanim, Hhabashim, Sephardhim, Ari'im, Hhasidhim, Mizrahhim, or Maghrebim ישראלים\יהודים. KJV is also the bible of Christians so it is only authoritative to christian/nazerene/ebonite types. You can do the video on any topic you want at this point. You have pretty informally answered everything.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
I looked at a show on Oprah Winfrey's OWN network. On there a Hhasidhim family had a KJV bible in their home. So what are you talkng about?
The bible is the book of Israel only. Nobody else. Christians was nothing more but Jews that learned under the Messiah & his students. That is all. The name Christian was given to Paul & his followers by the Judean community of Syria. Paul & his followers was Judeans. Only a Jew could be a so-called Christian according to scriptures.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Some Chasidic families in Chabad in America are very similar to christians. There are some of them that believe that Rabbi Mendel Shnerson is the Messiah. That is why some of them in Brooklyn are considered to be just as off base as yeshu's followers. They believe in the same kind of non-sense that yeshu followers do. Further, that is why they are also consider Minim/heretics/cut off by many.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
Look I'm done with this convsersation for now. The reason I got on you is because you was saying misinformed things about us Israelites here in the Americas. I got to practice for the Pesach. I'll talk with you in a few weeks.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I told you from the start what you guys go by has different texts, different terms, and different understandings. If we were talking about the same thing we would have agreed from the start and have had no differences. Your own comments make these things apparent.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites One more point I would like to make. It seems as if your real issue is with your fellow Hebrew Israelites who are missed informed about what they should be going by. Everything in the video I presented were quotes from various individual Hebrew Israelites, some of whom you also said did not do their research. You may need to contact them and get them on the same page with you. They are part of the reason your beliefs are not clear to a lot of people.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
I have knowledege. Not belief. There's thousands of Israelite congregations here in the Americas from Canada to South America. So that fellow Israelite you was talking about in your video didn't know the torah well and I don't know him at all. All Israelites in the Americas don't know each other.
I'm not baby sister. Those brothers have to fast & medidate,pray to the Most High for undestanding.
Do you chase everybody down who don't have understand the torah? I doubt it
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I actually do chase after my people who don't have the correct understanding of תורת אמת. That is one of the reasons that I take part in forums and I deal with people everyday on this matter. I have a responsibility to יהוה to correct all of my fellow ישראלים\יהודים. There are several places in תורת אמת where this is spelled out as the responsibility of all בני ישראל that is to be a light to the nations.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
lol. All of Israel will not make it according to prophecy. You know nothing.
Zec 13:8 And it shall come to pass, that in all the land, saith HaShem, two parts therein shall be cut off and die; but the third shall be left therein.
9 And I will bring the third part through the fire, and will refine them as silver is refined, and will try them as gold is tried; they shall call on My name, and I will answer them; I will say: 'It is My people', and they shall say: 'The HaShem is my G-d
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yes, again you are correct I don't anything about Hebrew Israelite theology/information/concepts etc. as I stated in the video. It is something completely different than what is held by ישראלים\יהודים which I know about.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
How know that's talking about the future. Because right now there are pagan idols in the land of Israel due to false doctrines such as Christianity,Islam,etc
Zec 13:2 And it shall come to pass in that day, saith HaShem of hosts, that I will cut off the names of the idols out of the land, and they shall no more be remembered; and also I will cause the prophets and the unclean spirit to pass out of the land.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yes, you are correct that there are all idols and yeshu and his followers were responsible for that. Yet, a day will come in the future when all of the yeshu, new testament, KJV, etc. nonsense will put aside and only תורת אמת will be there.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
Messiah was never a Idolater & is not responsible for idolatry in Israel. Here's what he says. So much for youe idolater accusation.
Matt 22:37
ויאמר ישוע אליו ואהבת את יהוה אלהיך בכל לבבך ובכל נפשך ובכל מדעך׃
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites We aren't talking about a messiah, we are talking about yeshu. Hebrew Israelites may think yeshu was there messiah, but that is a KJV fantasy. Besides, we all know that there are no "original" new testament texts in Hebrew. The earliest were greek and then aramaic so posting a line in עברית nonsense.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites ודע שזאת האמה5 הנוצרית, הטוענים טענת המשיח, לכל שינויי כיתותיהם, כולם עובדי עבודה זרה
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites ומינים אצל חכמים הם הכופרים מישראל... ופקפקו בתורה והנביאים עליהם השלום מתוך סכלותם, ומכחישים את הנבואה במה שאין להם בו ידיעה, ועוזבים את המצוות מתוך זלזול, והכת הזו היא כת של ישוע הנוצרי
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites עבודה זרה ט,ד:
הנוצרים - עובדי עבודה זרה הן
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Matthew 8:22 Let the dead bury the dead = anti-Torah. John 14:12 & Mark 16:17-18 = עבודה זרה , John 14:13-14 = עבודה זרה , Matthew 5:43 = הבניא שקר , Matthew 12:5 = הנביא שקר , and there are many more. Like I said, if Hebrew Israelites believe that someone who died is their messiah and he will return to be messiah that is truly עבודה זרה.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Now you are using Hashem in your quotes. Wow this is going all over the place.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
Hashem? LOL. Hasham means "The Name". You mean יְהוָה
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites No, I am talking about the copy and paste job you are doing now. Where your pasted something with the word Hashem in it. YOU posted it.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Here is why I chase my fellow ישראלים\יהודים down when it comes to truth. מצוה על כל אדם לאהוב את כל אחד ואחד מישראל כגופו, שנאמר "ואהבת לריעך כמוך" (ויקרא יט,יח). לפיכך צריך שיספר בשבחו ולחוס על ממונו, כמו שהוא חס על ממון עצמו ורוצה בכבוד עצמו; והמתכבד בקלון חברו, אין לו חלק לעולם הבא
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Further, הרואה את חברו שחטא, או שהוא הולך בדרך לא טובה--מצוה להחזירו למוטב, ולהודיעו שהוא חוטא על עצמו במעשיו הרעים: שנאמר "הוכח תוכיח את עמיתך" (ויקרא יט,יז so as you can see it is a requirement to do so. Thus when I see one of my own falling short I do what I can because I would expect them to do the same for me.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Further, you say you have knowledge and not belief. The others have said the EXACT same thing. If you want I can send you a list of them. It may be good for you to network with them. If you guys are in the America's it would seem prudent for you guys to start networks because there are LOT of people who are confused by you guys and how dramatically different your messages are.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
Ummm. LOT of ppl are not confused from our synagogue. Others probably.NOT US.
Speaking of confusion. You told a Benjamin(Jamaican) sister named SmilelyFace here on youtube 2 years ago that it was okay for her to stay married to Edomite(so-called white boy). When the torah clearly speaks against that.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Like I said, Hebbrew Israelites have a different text. If your bible states that a Edomite is a "white boy" and that a "Jamaican woman" is a Benjaminite is, then you have proven my point. Different texts and different understandings. You should probably try convincing her she is a Benjaminite. I have seen nothing of her saying that she is. Oh I forgot, she doesn't know it but you do.....right! ;-)
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
There you go again. don't you know there's a prophecy of Israelites losing there heritage for awhile and getting it back. smh. You need to read the Torah. Eze 37:6
יחזקאל 37:6 Hebrew Bible
ונתתי עליכם גדים והעלתי עליכם בשר וקרמתי עליכם עור ונתתי בכם רוח וחייתם וידעתם כי אני יהוה׃
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Eze. is a part of the the Hebrew Israelite Tharawah and it says that Jamaicans in it then it is definitely a different text and you definitely have different understanding and terms. Also, you obviously have different definitions of terms of the word Jamaicans shows up in your text.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
cont-
So of course I would know which tribe she is from.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I didn't see Jamaican in that anywhere. Which word is the Jamaican part? I also didn't see any proof that this is connected to her particular family.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Then you should work on getting you other Hebrew Israelite friends in line like ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD whom you said did not do his research. He was the one claiming that something was Yiddish that you say is not. That way all of you would be on the same page. Unless that doesn't matter.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
cont- Tobit 4:12 Beware of all whoredom, my son, and chiefly take a wife of the seed of thy fathers, and take not a strange woman to wife, which is not of thy father's tribe: for we are the children of the prophets, Noe, Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob: remember, my son, that our fathers from the beginning, even that they all married wives of their own kindred, and were blessed in their children, and their seed shall inherit the land.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Can you provide that quote in a language other than English? How about Hebrew Israelite Hebrew?
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I forgot you only have a choice of Greek or Aramaic fragments.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
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MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
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@Ehav4Ever
We'll I'll guess you forgot to read your torah for months. lol. You didn't know that Israel did name calling in ancient times. lmao. =-D
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Like I said your Tharawah is different than תורת משה because name calling isn't done except when the opposite is from a different and non-connected branch of people. That is why yeshu followers are on the outside because they lead people astray into all kind of nonsense. I also that yeshu was good at contradicting himself and then name calling those who called him out on it. So if that is his path and you follow it then I understand.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever You are right I have not studied ever the Hebrew Israelite Tharawah. It is a foreign text with foreign understandings not found here in the region.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
lol. We read the same text as you.
I guess you forgot that some of our Judean ancestors was capture & brought here to Americas & rest of the world. Massa didn't give them time run back home to get their torah before capturing them. And those that immigrated here,their childrenstop following Most High's torah and begin to live the american lily white dream. There won't be any showing who passed down a torah.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites One other point. If you have the time to go back and forth with me for the last few weeks, and I don't even live in the America's, then it stands to reason that you do have time to help elevate your fellow Hebrew Israelites who you say have not done their research, and live in the same country as you.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
I been teaching the torah on the streets & at home for 4years. Brothers & sisters always come to me for questions whether on you tube, email, phone call & on the streets. I have fruit in LA,CA,IL,etc.
Again you don't know what your talking about.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Good I am glad you have fruit. You have a lot more work to do. So you do agree then, against your previous statement, that you do have a responsibility to your fellow Hebrew Israelites. So you also have a responsibility to the ones who mislead people about concepts of those who call themselves "Hebrew Israelites."
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever I'm done with you for now.
cont- here 's a scripture about you. Pro 29:11
יא כָּל-רוּחוֹ, יוֹצִיא כְסִיל; וְחָכָם, בְּאָחוֹר יְשַׁבְּחֶנָּה.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Nice copy and paste job with vowels and all. Great job. If you have dropped the KJV nonsense then we are getting somewhere.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yes, the famous Hebrew Israelite name calling. You do have that in common with the others when you can't deliver on some of your points.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
Ezekiel was a name caller & called Israel an harlot (hooker). Don't you know your torah? I guess not. This a shame. I'm younger than you & know the torah better than you. LOL. Eze 16:35
יחזקאל 16:35 Hebrew Bible
לכן זונה שמעי דבר יהוה׃
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Ezekiel is a part of your Tharawah then you are right I don't know it. Since we are also agreed that Hebrew Israelites have different understands you are correct I don't know the Hebrew Israelite line of thinking. Besides, if you guys believe in yeshu then we are definitely not coming with the same text or understandings.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
Amos 3: 7 For the L-rd GOD will do nothing, but He revealeth His counsel unto His servants the prophets
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites An English quote doesn't mean much to me. Anyone can quote such a thing in English and claim it refers to them. Christians do that all of the time. If it is applicable to something bring it down as it was originally written and show a proven historical connection to its meaning to your point.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
The Torah burns (cuts) you when your wicked whether It's in Hebrew,English,Arabic.
יד לָכֵן, כֹּה-אָמַר יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵי צְבָאוֹת, יַעַן דַּבֶּרְכֶם, אֶת-הַדָּבָר הַזֶּה: הִנְנִי נֹתֵן
דְּבָרַי בְּפִיךָ לְאֵשׁ, וְהָעָם הַזֶּה עֵצִים--וַאֲכָלָתַם.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I thought you guys called it a Tharawah. Which one is it? So we are in agreement on that those who call themselves Hebrew Israelites have differnt understandings. Now we are getting somewhere, and you have dropped the KJV nonsense I see. Next when you drop the yeshu business we will have even more groundwork.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
Even white jew-ish historians are proven that the jews today are not suppose to be in israel, and if they are what happened to the other 11 tribes, you fake jews cant wiggle yourselves out of this one , what about song of solomon 1:5 i am black a comely, why would he say that . job 30:30 my skin is black and what about joel3:2-9 and sold a girl for wine . THIS ONLY HAPPENED TO NEGROID GIRLS , HISTORY EVEN TEACHES THAT!
lostisraeljudah 3 weeks ago
@lostisraeljudah Like I said, people who call themselves Hebrew Israelite, go by different texts, different understandings, and different terms. There is no one who has "proven" who is and who is not supposed to be in Israel. Such a thing has no basis in historical research. Besides, there aren't any white historians Jewish or not who claim that Blacks in the Americas are supposed to be here so your point is mute.
Ehav4Ever 3 weeks ago
they use the king James bible Deut 28:68 Bring thee black into Egypt again by ships by the way whereof i spoke unto thee, Thou shall see it no more again "by the way whereof i spoke unto thee, Thou shall see it no more again" means the way "Egypt" where God spoke to Israel, they shall see it no more again before verse 68 Deuteronomy 17:16 nor cause the people to return to Egypt, forasmuch as the LORD hath said unto you, Ye shall henceforth return no more that way, fulfilled by Roman empire
CrazyFavVideos 1 month ago
Black slave descendants are the true Hebrew Israelites. The Lord is punishing their captors. The oppressors are falling!!!!
111uminat1 1 month ago
@111uminat1 So you guys have nothing to worry about.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
Regardless you all still not the true descendants on the Israelites lol.
TzuNation 1 month ago
@TzuNation That is good to here that someone is being honest and clear. So there is a difference between Hebrew Israelites and ישראלים\יהודים just as I pointed out in the video.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
Concerning the issue of the languages presented in this video. I have added some links in the description that prove what languages are used in this video.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever Hebrew (/ˈhiːbruː/) (עִבְרִית, Ivrit, About this sound Hebrew pronunciation (help·info)) is a Semitic language of the Afroasiatic language family.
Culturally, it is considered by Jews and other religious groups as the language of the Jewish people,
so the jews speaking original hebrew is as real as santa,they only claim they speak biblical hebrew the same as their claim to be the tribe of judah,a black nation"
ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD You still didn't answer my question. Question, the script that I show at 2:24 in the video, is that also Yiddish to you? If not what it is it? Also, please provide a page from what you consider "original" to be also also translate said page.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Another question for you. The Dead Sea Scrolls, are they written in Yiddish? Also, provide a picture of a page of what "you" call Hebrew of Exodus 20.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever you should do your own research but type in"Most Ancient Hebrew Biblical Inscription Deciphered, Scholar Says".this is not moses hebrew but it lets you see how much hebrew has changed ,dead sea scrolls are not in yiddish,
ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD It should obvious that "my" research and "your" research aren't going to give the same results. I am asking "you" because you have made claims that are contradictory to claims of other Hebrew Israelites I have met. I still would like "you" to point out what "you" say Hebrew is. Your comment about the dead sea scrolls should be a dead give away of why I am asking this question.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever Hebrew (/ˈhiːbruː/) (עִבְרִית, Ivrit, About this sound Hebrew pronunciation (help·info)) is a Semitic language of the Afroasiatic language family.
contradictory to claims about what?not all israelites agree,just like not all chinese or indians agree
ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD I find it strange that not all Hebrew Israelites agree. If you guys don't even agree on the basics of what, for example, is actually Hebrew and what isn't that is a bit strange. Chinese are not all the same people so of course they share no connection. For example, Hans, Zhuang, and Bai don't share a similar historical context. They are only connected due to conquest not ethnic origin.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD some of the contridictory claims I have seen from H.I.'s are the following. Some H.I. believe in Jesus some don't. Some H.I. claim that King James was a H.I. some claim he was not. Some H.I.'s claim that Ge'ez is Paleo Hebrew so claim it was something else. Some H.I.'s claim that the deceased yahweh ben yahweh is their savior some say he is not. Some Hebrew Israelites use a form of Hebrew "you" call Yiddish and say it is in fact Hebrew.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Some Hebrew Israelites disagree about whether all American Blacks are Israelites.The origin stories of the various Hebrew Israelites differ in terms of their claims of being African. Some Hebrew Israelite claim to be moors others say they are not. Some Hebrew Israelites claim that mount sinai is in one place while others claim it was somewhere else. So Hebrew Israelites claim that Israelites came from the Igbos in NIgeria others say this is not so.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Here are some examples of various Hebrew Israelites I have found. The actual origin of B. H. I.s stretches back to before the Civil War. In 1896 there was a sect founded in Kansas by William Crowdy. Shortly after that, new congregations sprouted in several major cities, and by the 1980s other sects began to appear.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Yahweh Ben Yahweh, otherwise known by the authorities as Hulon Mitchell, Jr. led one section and other sects include the Commandment Keepers, The Law Keepers, House of Judah, and the African Hebrew Israelites of Jerusalem
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD you say that the dead sea scrolls are not yiddish. Are you including the Isaiah scroll in that? According to "your" research what language is the Isaiah scroll in? Also, please provide a source for Exodus 20 in what "you" call Hebrew or the Hebrew of Moses as you stated earlier.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever the old testament is hebrew,i meant the hebrew moses spoke.
Old Hebrew or Paleo-Hebrew is what moses spoke,do the research
ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD One other question for you. Are you saying that in "your" Hebrew Israelite "old testament" Ezra and Nehimaih were written in Paleo-Hebrew? Please provide a picture of said texts.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD Please also provide linguistic differences between what you call Paleo-Hebrew and Yiddish. I ask because I have yet to see a scholar claim that Paleo-Hebrew was language. They all say Paleo-Hebrew is a script/alphabet that looks exactly the same as the Phonecian scrpt.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@ISRAELITEKNUCKLEHEAD
Ahch the Dead Sea Scrolls are written in Assyrian square Hebrew. Not Yiddish. There's a diff.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites So then my next question is what is the Aleppo Codex in Assyrian square Hebrew or is it in Yiddish? Also, can you define what "Hebrew Israelites" consider Hebrew to be by showing a page of the "Hebrew Israelite" version of Exodus 20? Thanks.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
The Aleppo Codex is in Assryian square script. It is not Yiddish.
It's way we pronounce certain Hebrew words. Here's some examples.
Shalom Shalam(peace)
Shemesh Shamash (sun)
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Now this brings up an interesting point. In the video I present several pages of the Aleppo Codex and IsraeliteKnuckleHead and several other Hebrew Israelites claimed it was Yiddish. So it seems like there is a disagreement about what is what here.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
Because they didn't do their research.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites So you are saying they are incorrect? They seem to claim that their version is the true Hebrew Israelite one. They also claim that they have done the research. Like I said earlier about the whole Seti and Farrakan thing. Every group is claiming some things that completely contradict the other. Someone has to be wrong, even within the Hebrew Israelite circles if there are contradictions.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
There always been disagreements in Israel since ancient times.
Seti & Farrakhan would never tell so-called African Americans,NA,Latinos that they are the Israelites because they will lose control,power, & money.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
lol. We read the same Exodus 20 in Hebrew in the Torah.
If you look at the Los Lunas Stone in New Mexico. It has partially Exo 20 in Paleo-Hebrew script. It been vandalized by ppl over the years. I advised you to get old pic of the Los Lunas Stone.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I don't think you understand what I am getting at. I am asking for you and other Hebrew Israelites to show a page of what you consider Hebrew to be because several of you have claimed Hebrew to be different things. One H.I. claimed that Paleo-Hebrew is a language. Are you claiming that the Los Lunas Stones were put there by Hebrew Israelites from Africa?
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
The so-called Cherokee,Choctaw, Apache,etc are descendants of the Gadites that made the Los Lunas Stone.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Also, I think you mis-understood. I am not asking for just part of Exodus 20 I am asking you to show me the "Hebrew Israelite" version of all of Exodus 20 there is a specific part of it that will prove the points I was making earlier. The Los Lunas stone is interpreted to be an abridged version of the Decalogue.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
We read the Exo 20 the same in Torah as our brothers & distant relatives in Israel,Africa, Asia,Europe ,etc
KJV is just a English translation of the Tanakh & Hebrew NT. The NT was originally written in Hebrew.
KJV Bible is strictly an Israelite book. The gentiles that Paul taught was Israelites that forgotten their nationality & custom due to observing Greco-Roman customs. Also Paul kept the law(Torah). I'll make vis about this soon. Shalam.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Yet, you say that Los Lunos stone ws written by Hebrew Israelites. I read the stone and it has some glaring differences with the Torah of ישראלים\יהודים so are you saying that the texts I presented in this video for the Torah are what H.I.'s go by? If so this contradicts what other Hebrew Isrealites who say that what I presented is YIddish.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
Yes, the Los Lunas Ten Commandment Stone was written by the 10 tribes from the Northern Kingdom when they arrived in the Americas in 722-721 B.C. ( II Esdras(Ezra) 13:39-48). Yes,we have tanakhs just as you do.Some of us even have torah rolls.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites My question is concerning the wording of the Los Lunos stone. Is that the wording that shows up in the Hebrew Israelite tanakhs or torah rolls?
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I have two requests when you do your video. 1) Please gives the names of the "Hebrew Israelites" that your people say transmitted your "Tharawah", and your understandings of it, from 1500 BCE to the present time. 2) Please provide a close up picture of Tharawah roll and the name of the "Hebrew Israrelite" that transcribed it. Also, remember that I asked about ALL of Exodus 20 not just the Ten Commandments.
Ehav4Ever 4 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Also, if H.I.'s consider KJV to be a Hebrew Israelite book we are definately not the same people and we definately don't go by the same text. We consider the KJV to be completely invalid and we do not beleive in jesus/yeshu/yeshua/yahshua/etc.. We ישראלים\יהודים also consider the new testament to be an invalid group of texts and it is of the christians.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
That's not true. There's many Israelites from the homeland Canaan & around the world that believe in the Messiah. We don't worship him. We just admit he is the spiritual son of the Most High & deliver of Israel. And he wasn't born of virgin birth as believed. Joseph & Miriam(Mary) was his earthly parents. Joseph descend from Solomon, Mary descend from Nathan. Both of David's bloodline. Messiah is prophecised in the torah.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Hebrew Israelites may consider yeshu to be the messiah but ישראלים\יהודים know that he is not. We know all about how yeshu was born and to whom. We also know that there are various xian interpretations about him, even the one you mentioned. He doesn't meet the requirements found in the Hebrew/Aramaic Tanakh we ישראלים\יהוידים read from. If you are saying he is in the Hebrew Israelite bible then we are not reading the same text.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
lol. The Christians in the bible are actually Jews. Messiah only came & died fro Israel. Acts 5:29-31.
Well we not the same ppl as the Ashkenazi Jews( they are not the real jews) . But we are related to the Israelites that never left Canaan & others scattered around the world.
Did you know the some of the Israelites that never left Israel & others give us hugs & kisses when we arrive right off the plane? LOL. So you don't speak for all of them.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Acts 5:29-31 is in the Hebrew Israelite bible then it not same as the Tanakh of ישראלים\יהודים found amongst the Teimanim, Hhabashim, Mizrahhim, Hasidhim, Dor Daim, Ari'iom, Maghrebim, and Sephardim. All of these ישראלים\יהודים do not use or go by the christian/nazerene texts of the followers of yeshu. If you are a follower of yeshu than you are definitely going by a different text and talking about something different.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
Hmm. I have an article about original Sephardim Jews in Jamaica that had their graves facing east to Jerusalem because they believed in the Messiah & wanted to be resurrected when he returns in Jerusalem for Judgement Day.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If said people actually did follow christianity i.e. the belief that yeshu/jesus/yahshua/yahushua/etc. was who they believed messiah to be they were christians. In Jamaica this kind of assimilation did happen which why said people no longer exist as ישראלים\יהודים or their descendants dropped the whole yeshu thing and returned to true and untainted תורת משה. That is IF your story actually happened the way you claim.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
Christianity is just a manmade term. There is no term Christianity in the NT. Christians was nothing more but Jews that believed & followed the teachings of the Messiah. That's all.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Whoever followed jesus/yeshu no matter whether they were Jewish or not are not are still following something that is not according to Torath Mosheh. Thus if you are like them then we are definitely talking about something different since yeshu and his followers are only valid to xians, messianics, and Black Hebrew Israelites.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
Please don't use the unscientific term " Black Hebrew Israelite ". It's Israelites or Hebrew Israelites. Black is a color. Not a nationality. Also there's not a person in the world who skin is black as a tire. Our skin tone is from very dark brown to rosy red with diff hair textures & facial features.
Also the so-called Native Americans,Latinos,certain Southern Sicilians, Irish,etc are Israelites too.
MoorsAreIsraelites 3 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites It is a term used by a number of people who follow the same view as you so I am including them. Just because you don't agree with those who use the term doesn't mean you don't have something in common with them i.e. the yeshu stuff. If the so-called Native Americans,Latinos,certain Southern Sicilians, Irish,etc are Israelites are also your people it sounds like you may need to spend more time convincing more of them.
Ehav4Ever 3 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
I don't use such terms such as black,white,latino, afro-american,brazilian,chilean,etc
I don't have to convince so-called black,NA, & latinos,etc that they are the Israelites. Here in Chicago a large number of so-called blacks,latinos,na know that they are Israelites.
Again you know nothing about us.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites You are correct I don't know anything about those who call themselves Hebrew Israelites and their philosophies, their texts, or their terminologies. Everything I know about the various types of Hebrew Israelites comes from the those who contact me and I take from their statements what they are about or not about.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Just to let you know, you have about a week to make a valid point and wrap it up. I generally give Hebrew Israelites a week and then I move on. I was nice in this situation and gave you a bit more time. If you are really going to make a video you may want to hurry up and make it so I can post my response video. I can tell by your comments which direction your video is going in so we can cut through to the point.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever
1. your not the Most High.
2. Your not my ahba( father) or ahma(mom).
3. I'm a grown Hebrew.
I'll make my video when I'm good & ready.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I will accept that as an "invalid statement" and thus conversation over. Since you can't answer yes or no questions yet you expect me to do graphics showing you what Ancient Ivrith is then you have proven my points for me. Hebrew Israelites are a different group of people with different texts, different terms, and different understandings. Conversation over. Thanks for sharing.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I.e. give a me date for the completion of your video.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@Ehav4Ever Even if they are not convinced. I still have to teach them. I guess you didn't read that in torah.
Eze 2:7 And thou shalt speak My words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forbear; for they are most rebellious.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites You are right that I don't read the KJV bible, as I stated in the video, or what you described as the Tharawah of the people who call themselves Hebrew Israelites. Like I said it is a different text, with a different name, different pronunciation, and different understandings.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites So you are now saying you should teach your fellow Hebrew Israelites who you said didn't do their research. Okay, so that is a change from what you said before when you stated you were not their baby sitter. So by like token you should also be teaching the Kemetic, Nation of Islam, and Moorish Science Temple types. You have your work cut out for you. Good luck.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
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@MoorsAreIsraelites I wonder if he read song of solomon 1:5 i am black and comely, or what about JOEL 3:2-9 AND SOLD A GIRL FOR WINE SO THEY MIGHT DRINK. ALL THROUGH HISTORY IT WAS ONLY NEGROE GIRLS SOLD FOR WINE. PLUS MOST NATIONS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT GOES AROUND COME AROUND! THEM KHAZARS GOT TO PAY.
lostisraeljudah 3 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
There's many scriptures in the Torah that speaks of the Messiah. You just wasn't taught correctly. Also, those Jews that followed the Messiah teachings never died out. Majority of their descendants fled into other countries,before,during & after the burning of Jerusalem by the Romans70 AD.
MoorsAreIsraelites 3 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, I know more than you think about yeshu or whatever name people choose to call him. Those who followed yeshu/jesus did fall out and that is why one can't find names/dates/locations for them after about the 4th cent. that marked them as not being christian. Like I said if yeshu is a part of your Tharawah then we are definitely not using the same texts because yeshu definately did not follow or line up with תורת משה
Ehav4Ever 3 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
Hmmm, then explain how so-called negro slaves knew about the Messiah before they was captured & shipped to the Americas. Before they was captured off West coast Africa. They was reading Psalms,Isaiah,Revelations in Arabic. Remember they spoke Hebrew, & Arabic. Some was Muslim by faith,But Israel by nationality. They knew who they were. Did you know majority of their names was Isa? which is arabic for ישוע .
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If the people you describe were reading revelations (no matter the language) then they were christians. Knowing about yeshu means that they knew about the guy that the ebonites/nazerens "claimed" was their messiah. If Hebrew Israelites hold by yeshu then that is another difference, as I mentioned before. Like I said before those who follow yeshu are of the עובדי עבודה זרה.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If they knew about yeshu the נביא שקר it would have been brought to them by his followers who were עובדי עבודה זרה. On the other hand anyone can claim that a group of people showed up following this or that. It is another to show documented proof with I witness accounts and names of people who attest to said information.
Ehav4Ever 1 week ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I am not claiming to speak for anyone. I am speaking for everyone who goes by תורת משה and if there are people who accept yeshu then are a different group of people. Yet, like I stated before ישראלים\יהודים are known by the rejection of עבודה זרה and yeshu and his disciples taught עבודה זרה. Further, if the Hebrew Israelite bible contains the wording of the Los Lunos stone then it is a different text. I will do a video soon to explain why.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
The Los Lunas Stone is only displays the Ten Commandments. There's other stones in that area.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites You still didn't answer my question. What I am asking you is about the wording on the Los Lunas stone. Is the wording found on the Los Lunos stone for the "Ten Commandments" exactly the same as the wording that can be found in Hebrew Israelite bibles and Torah rolls?
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
What are you talking about? Tanakh is tanakh. The Old Testament is nothing but the tanakh in english. Except thee might be a few translation errors.
For example in the OT (bible) Genesis 1:1 it saids God created the Earth .When in fact in original hebrew tanakh Bereshit 1:1 it's actually Ahlahayam(Elohim) aka Angels aka gods. אֱלֹהִים
בְּרֵאשִׁית בָּרָא אֱלֹהִים אֵת הַשָּׁמַיִם וְאֵת הָאָֽרֶץ׃
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, it is not all the same. The xian old testament in English is not the same as the Tanakh of ישראלים\יהודים. The fact that you are translating אלהים as angels proves that point. Also, xian new testament texts, in both Greek and English, quote from the LXX or the Lenigrad Codex not from תגים that ישראלים\יהודים use such as the כתר. Further, xians consider texts like Psalms messianic, ישראלים\יהודים do not.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
I just said there's a few errors.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If one pulls out the תגים one will find more than just a "few" errors. One will find major differences in yeshu followers translations and how they understand said translations. One of the most famous comes from Sefer Daniel 9 where yeshu followers leave out the אתנחא in a critical part of the text thus giving them warped translation of the events. Also, yeshu followers add a "the" in a place where there is no "ה". There are a lot more.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Also, because Torah means more than just law, it also means "teaching" having a different understand of a text is further a different Torah. I will explain why in my comment about the Los Lunas stone.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
I know that Tharawah(Torah) in Ibrayath ( Ivrit) means law. For your information I'm a direct paternal descendant of the Melungeon fromTennessee. Melungeons are descend from Sephardim Jews,Portuguese Jews,Moors,Moriscos, Jews from Africa,Turks.
So I 'm not ignorant of Israel's history or culture. Just letting you know.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I never claimed you to be "ignorant" I claimed you to be "different." If "Tharawah" is how you guys pronounce you law, and if it only means law as you seem to be pointing out we are talking about two different things. תורה in the language of ישראלים\יהודים means a lot more than just law. If the Sephardim you claim to descend from believed in the same things you are telling me now they were xians/nazerene like. I.e. מינים ומשומדים thus they are different.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
They have diff believe system. But they are the same people. Israel is Israel regardless no matter what they believe.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, that is not the case when it comes to עבודה זרה. That is what causes ישראלים\יהודים to cut off those who willingly accept such. That is why the תורה instructs כרת for those who willingly take on עבודה זרה and false prophets/false messiah claimants. It is not just about belief because as we know עבודה זרה involves twisting facts and perverting them the way that yeshu and his followers did.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Especially, if the Los Lunos stones was written by your fellow Hebrew Israelites then someone made some major changes. That is why I keep asking if you can tell me if that stone is how your text writes the Ten Commandments? Is there a reason why you won't answer this question in a straight-forward manner?
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
@Ehav4Ever
man.. what are talking about? We read the same Ten Commandments in Hebrew just as you or others that live in Canaan (Israel) today. I'll show a Paleo-Hebrew sheet of the Ten Commandents in a upcoming vid. Kool down ahch.
MoorsAreIsraelites 1 month ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites The reason why I am asking this way is because I get the impression that you will show me something that does not answer the question. Like I said, the impression I am getting is that there is a reason why you won't answer the question is yes or no. Like I said I know what Paleo-Hebrew is and I can read it. I read the Los Lunos stone, which you prompted me to read, when I asked to see a copy of the Hebrew Israelite text.
Ehav4Ever 1 month ago
MoorsAreIsraelites 3 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Okay, I will type them and post them on my blog at hochmaumusar.blogspot.com. It will also show that we are not going by the same terms or even the same texts because what you call Paleo-Hebrew is different than עברית עתיקה.
Ehav4Ever 3 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites It has posted on my blog.
Ehav4Ever 3 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
You forgot to listed pronunciations sounds in english. If you think camel in is pronounce g-e-m-el. You truly don't know Hebrew.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago in playlist Uploaded videos
@MoorsAreIsraelites I actually posted exactly what you asked for. You asked that I "type the pronunciation of these words & names in Paleo-Hebrew." You gave a list of "English" words and I visually showed what they are several scripts of עברית עתיקה. This not only proves that I can read/understand עברית עתיקה also shows that I know how to type in it also.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites If Hebrew Israelites have a letter called "camel" in their language then this proves my point. You guys have a different group of texts, different terms, and different understandings. I will agree with you that I don't know "Hebrew Israelite" Hebrew, it is obviously a different language. I know עברית של הישראלים ויהודים .
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@Ehav4Ever
We say Gamal. Not camel. pay attention.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Actually, YOU wrote "camel" in your earlier statement, so you may need to type things more concisely. You also wrote Torah roll in another place before claiming that your people call it Tharawah.
Ehav4Ever 3 days ago
@Ehav4Ever
Hey I hope your not into that Freemason bullish-t while claiming to be Yisraʾel. smh.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites No I am not a freemason. There is no reason for me to be.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I wonder if he read song of solomon 1:5 i am black and comely, or what about JOEL 3:2-9 AND SOLD A GIRL FOR WINE SO THEY MIGHT DRINK. ALL THROUGH HISTORY IT WAS ONLY NEGROE GIRLS SOLD FOR WINE. PLUS MOST NATIONS HAVE TO KNOW WHAT GOES AROUND COME AROUND! YOU KHAZARS GOT TO PAY.
lostisraeljudah 3 weeks ago
@lostisraeljudah Like I said everything you just stated is the "understandings" of the Hebrew Israelites. Yet, I notice you didn't deal with anything in the video. If the Hebrew Israelite bibles state what you said then that is Hebrew Israelite stuff.
Ehav4Ever 3 weeks ago
@lostisraeljudah
Ahch,he knows the truth. He's just scared to tell that so-called African Americans are Israelites from the tribe of Judah. He's afraid of getting murdered or deported from the state of Israel. Also some of his family members has roots in Freemason doctrine. I definitely know he knows. I seen pic of Ehav throwing up the baphomet hand sign during his college days. Hmmm.
MoorsAreIsraelites 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites I have no fear of being deported or killed by anyone. Like I said those who call themselves Hebrew Israelites have a different group of texts, different understandings, and use different terms. Your comments prove this out.
Ehav4Ever 2 weeks ago
@MoorsAreIsraelites Concerning, the picture you saw, when I was in college I joined a black fraternity, Phi Beta Sigma, which was not masonic. I also walked away from said fraternity when I decided that it was in conflict with the Torah. There is a video on YouTube where I explain all of that. I don't hide that nor am I ashamed of it. I made a choice and that is perfectly fine. <