power of WPF

[yeahyeahyaha2]

I think this is one of the most entertaining youtube-comment fights I've ever seen

[CCAndol]

its amazing...where can i get tutorials to make such cool things

[bonchbonch]

Congratulations Microsoft on being able to write a sliding puzzle. Nice special effects that Apple did 10 years ago.

[SteveCrank]

@bonchbonch , i fucked ur mother.

[bonchbonch]

@SteveCrank You represent the typical PC user who can't write English properly. I'm glad that you chimed in to present yourself as an example to everyone.

[SteveCrank]

@bonchbonch ,IM A PC I FUCK YOU !

[bonchbonch]

@SteveCrank Clearly, I own and control you. You will reply again with another comment starting with a comma for no reason. You'll do what I tell you to because I'm in your head. Next.

[MrApplseed]

@bonchbonch shut up, everybody hates apple fan-boys.

[bonchbonch]

@MrApplseed No, only insecure PC users hate Apple fans, because it reminds them of how behind the times they are. Using Windows is like going back in a time machine to the 1990s.

[MrApplseed]

@bonchbonch No, the majority of people hate Apple, because Apple fans have a strong belief that they are superior. When really, there is nothing special about them, but for some reason, they go to every Windows YouTube video they can and spam that their OS is obviously superior. When in reality, their OS lacks functionality, no matter how pretty you make it. Thats how Apple gets their fans, it looks pretty, which is why most of them are imbeciles, with no knowledge of computers what-so-ever.

[bonchbonch]

@MrApplseed If the majority of people hated Apple, Apple wouldn't be completely owning MP3 players, smartphones, internet music services, and more. They also wouldn't have a rapidly growing segment of U.S. laptop sales or a sold-out developer's conference this year.

Windows dates back to 1984. I'm sorry you're stuck in a time machine using Win32 and having to deal with things the rest of the world moved away from decades ago.

[MrApplseed]

@bonchbonch Actually, the droid out sold the iphone 10 months straight (the last 10 months fyi), and more people use limewire than iTunes lol and i do give Apple props for smartphones, but thats like one thing. I mean, how many mmorpg's can you play on a Mac? 30? maybe? you can hit AT LEAST 5000 on windows :P

[bonchbonch]

@MrApplseed The Droid is also offered by more OEMs, and yet the iPhone still has a higher market share.

The fact you brought up freaking Limewire is proof you're completely out of touch. Limewire, ROFL. And who gives a shit about 5000 MMORPGs? Videogames are all about consoles today, not PCs. PCs are a dead relic of the past, and you're just too afraid of change to let go of it. Google and Apple are the future, and Microsoft is going nowhere fast.

[MrApplseed]

@bonchbonch LMAO! Pc's are not a dead relic of the past, the fact that you said THAT means that your out of touch also. Ever hear of World of Warcraft?, Everquest?, EVE?, Rune Scape (Happends to hold a world record for most players)?, lol. And ignore the video games if you want, what about developing?! All windows, while i can agree with you that Google is the future (Personally i think there gonna rule the world ^^).

[bonchbonch]

@MrApplseed PCs are absolutely a dead relic of the past. Everybody is using mobile phones and netbooks now. Where have you been? You bring up crappy little niche games like Everquest, EVE, and Runescape. WoW is the only big one, and its subscribers are going down. It's like all you know are MMORPGs. Meanwhile, console game sales completely obliterate PC game sales and span all genres beyond MMORPGs.

[MrApplseed]

@bonchbonch Yea, ok, so what exactly is a net-book? Its a, say it with me now, "Mobile PC" :O and Runscape has 124 MILLION Players, WoW has 11 million, i'm pretty sure that WoW isn't the big one there. And i love how you completely ignore the developing stand point, in fact neither apple nor Microsoft is best for developing, it would have to go to linux, and in fact the only thing that consoles have over PC's are, wait a minute, nothing....Anything you can do on a console, you can do on a PC.

[bonchbonch]

@MrApplseed LMAO, Runescape doesn't have 124 million players. Your only argument is crappy, esoteric MMOs. That's hilarious.

Apple is absolutely the best for development. The Cocoa frameworks blow away anything out there. Linux is pure shit for developing--you guys can't even decide on a standard, functioning sound API or a single package manager.

I suggest you look at videogame sales charts over the last 10 years, and you'll see exactly what consoles have over PCs. You're delusional.

[psihoterapeft]

@bonchbonch Console troll here. Nothing interesting to see. Move along. Tell me from where do you post ? Your calculator or PC ? Didn't think so...

[bonchbonch]

@psihoterapeft I'm not a "console troll." I'm stating an obvious fact EVERYBODY already knows, every tech media site acknowledge, and the gaming industry itself has proclaimed. Again, hasn't anybody looked at sales figures lately? Console game sales completely destroy PC games sales, and there are thousands of more titles available. When a PC game does come out, it's usually a console port.

PC gamers are just afraid of change and can't admit the truth. Consoles won several years ago.

[snifyy]

The age of interactive applications has come. Maybe after few years WPF and UIX (the framework used for Zune software) will be default for gui creation. What happened to Adobe AIR? I thought it will be more popular for desktop apps. Microsoft is embedding C# into every aspect of developing, from web, desktop and small devices to there interactive apps, I think that's their main advantage.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy Nobody is using WPF or UIX for desktop applications. Microsoft doesn't even use C# for important things like Office.

[snifyy]

@bonchbonch Actually many corporations are switching to .NET 3.5 and WPF. Office 2010 and Visual Studio 2010 is written in WPF. I also am an apple lover, but microsoft has good moves these years.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy No corporations are switching. You don't even name any. Office 2010 is not written in WPF, and only Visual Studio's super-slow 2010 editor is written in WPF. Microsoft has had horrible moves the last few years, from Vista to the Kin.

Again, Microsoft is absolutely not using C# for anything important.

[snifyy]

@bonchbonch Big corporations *are* switching, I was in the middle of discussion of pro developers. I don't remember the names cause I never needed it. Office 2010 is written with WPF, (don't know C# or C++), and VIsual Studio is written in C# with WPF. And WPF is using DirectX, so it's hardware accelerated and it cannot be "super-slow". Vista and Kin are sure fail, but nothing related to .NET is not.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy Big corporations are NOT switching. Again, you cite zero examples, because .NET is a big Java-ripoff that is failing against Java. Office 2010 does NOT use WPF. It uses the same Win32 C++ as before.

Just because WPF composites using DirectX doesn't mean Visual Studio's WPF-based text editor isn't slow as hell. You're completely falling apart here.

[snifyy]

@bonchbonch I really think you couldn't know that good what is going on the big corps. Are you *really* arguing that the desktop applications wont evolve to interactive apps? And if you are so wise, tell me why is .NET failing against Java (in one thing other than portability, in which Java wins)? Office 2010 *uses* WPF. And VS2010 is as fast as 2008 for me. There is not a single bad thing you can tell about C# and WPF. So stop trolling.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy No, I never said desktop applications won't "evolve to interactive apps." What the hell does that even mean? It's vague marketing-speak. Desktop applications are already interactive, by definition.

.NET isn't failing against Java. Java is still the most popular enterprise language, and its demand continues to rise along with pure C for embedded devices. Absolutely nobody uses .NET, not even Microsoft, for serious applications.

I can give you paragraphs of bad things about C#, noobie.

[snifyy]

@bonchbonch so do it, oh wise one. I'm waiting the 'paragraphs'

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy I can't fit paragraphs into YouTube comments, fanboi. Just because you're some hobbyist, wannabe programmer who downloaded Microsoft's crippled free edition of Visual Studio and learned how to print "hello world" in C# because you're too dumb to write in C or C++ doesn't mean .NET is suddenly great. C# is just Microsoft's Windows-only Java ripoff, another crappy, staticly-typed language with slow performance and a proprietary platform.

You're way too dumb to be arguing with me.

[snifyy]

@bonchbonch ah of course you can't *fit* into youtube comments, haha. I actually work as a programmer in C# and I know Java as well. I am more than a hobbyist, and before .NET I've written mainly in C using winapi, so shut your troll mouth. If you can tell something bad about C# I'd love to see it, otherwise go troll lady gaga fans.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy If you wrote Win32 code in C, your brain has already been permanently warped. C# is pure garbage and is nothing more than a Java clone. It's been packed with so many junk features, it's statically typed, it's tied to Windows, it's slow, and it's bred a new generation of hobbyist programmers who think they know how to write code because they copy-and-pasted samples from tutorial websites.

I could go on and on and on. C and Java still top C# in popularity, which tells you everything.

[johnboy14]

@bonchbonch

complete rubbish to say that nobody uses .NET. I work in an area with alot of companies and any new recruits we hire have either done c# or .NET if learning java from start to finish. I work with java applications but .NET has its advantages because it allows you to produce software quickly and with reasonable quality. Its alot harder to develop java applications than .NET applications.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy Absolutely nobody is switching to WPF. Of course you don't remember the names--you were never "in the middle of discussion of pro developers." You're some hobbyist who picked up C# one day because C++ looked too hard for you.

Just because WPF eventually renders to screen using DirectX doesn't mean it "cannot be slow." C# is a garbage-colelcted language that has to have its bytecode compiled at run-time. It's always going to be slow. .NET is total garbage, and Java and C are still #1.

[bonchbonch]

@snifyy And again, Office 2010 absolutely does not use WPF. I don't know where you're getitng your information.

[rasmasyean]

Hey, would that puzzle thing work with 3D model?

[schestowitz]

This is standard O/S API stuff, but this proprietary mess does not belong on the Web. Keep the Net open and free standards-based.

[lsrob123]

All those are done by XAML, which is also available in Silverlight although the coming Silverlight 2.0 won't yet support 3D.

[schestowitz]

Silverlight is not available for all platforms.

[lsrob123]

Windows, Mac OS and Linux. Anything else?

[schestowitz]

GNU/Linux is not supported (Moonlight is a semi-cooked product from Novell, not Microsoft). There is also patent threat.

[lsrob123]

Moonlight is good enough regarding the fact that so few people are using Linux as their desktop operating system.

I am not sure if you have tried WPF or Silverlight (2.0 to be a WPF subset) on Visual studio, they are very very developer friendly and developers can write their applications from the backend straight to the web frontend. Think about that the frontend is now still dominated by HTML, AJAX and Flash on which they can't do much yet.

[schestowitz]

I beg to differ. First of all, a growing number of people use GNU/Linux (the number doubled in the past year) and they needn't be treated like second-class citizens.

Moreover, deals needn't be signed for Mono protection, which involves paying royalties.

[lsrob123]

Hi schestowitz thanks a lot for the reply and it really makes me think on this issue. I can give you an example about the demands for rich front ends in business applications, which is the web based mapping system currently developed in AJAX mainly. No doubt Silverlight will work much better on this area.

[lsrob123]

I mean it is actually about the resistance against Silverlight in the market. From my point of view, unless Adobe put efforts to make Flash working better with major JAVA middle tiers, the resistance will be weak.

[lsrob123]

Someone would tell me JavaFx will win. I don't believe it at all. If Sun could have had a chance to win this game they should have done it at the Java Applet age. It is really too late for them now.

[lsrob123]

Just posted a reply on above. Thanks.

[haloandre]

Does the guy saying wow get paid for marketing vista? That didnt look so cool

[Splodgo]

Microsoft's answer to Apple's Core Image and Core Video. Nice try. Keep up the good work.

[rogerioth]

indeed, amazing!

[psclil]

you are suck a lamer

[psclil]

amazing!

[Andy24DB]

Yes really amazing !