This is real hip hop artist. It's sad that more children listen to 50 cent and other commercial rappers. They can only leanr new generations about prostitution, drugs, disrespecting women etc. Love from Croatia!
back 2 the true roots of hiphop!!!a real message not hoes,dope n fancy cars n enuf guts 2 call out 50cent 4 being wak as fuk.BRING THE OLD SKOOL BAK,PUBLIC ENEMY,KRS1 BDP,MOS DEF,DE LA SOUL,BEASTIE BOYS,RUN DMC,KURTIS BLOW.
flow and "message" of this sequel ain't bad! but why do they spell melle mel's name different at the intro sequence and use such video effects like negative filter and stuff that makes the production look very amateurish? even the instrumental is not that fire that the stuff used to be back in the days. they use this damn guitar sample, which is preset on every mpc, stuff that you normally delete before you start sampling with your machine...
this is much later in his career and he should not be faulted for trying to stay with current musc trends. after all he is trying to sell. but melle mel will always have the potential to blow up a mic.dont sleep.also he really doesn't really have to prove a damn thing. he already solidified his name as a world class mcee.
now without disrespecting that melle is the pioneer of hiphop
you all gotta see that even if he was the first one that wouldnt make him the best like cars ford is the first car made but does it mean its the best no we got more and more of brands thats turned out way better then ford
so he might be the first rapper he aint the best rapper if i listen to his lyrics im not like woowww what a rap
when i listen to 2pac nwa big daddy kane public enemy
@dratsabREVIEWS so you means songs like keep ya head up and brendas got a baby and white mans world and and alot alot alot of more beautifull songs fucked up the future of rap nigga 2pac owned rap when he lived even when hw died hiphop was still owned by pac
you dont know pac so shut up
but to say about nwa i think your right because they were gangster rappers pac was no gangster rapper
but nwa make great songs too even if they were violent straight from the ghetto Compton
@blakphantom 2Pac obviously knew that he was better than Melle Mel. I'm not saying Melle Mel sucked 20 or 30 years ago but he sucks now. I have respect for Melle Mel as a rap pioneer. I have said that 100 times by now. There is no way that anyone should be able to tell me that this song is good though. Obviously The Message and the shit Mel did with the Furious Five changed the course of rap but that doesn't mean the dude should be making stupid ass songs and videos 30 years later.
I'm going through the comments and I want to know one thing: HOW DID IT GO FROM MELLE MEL TO TALKING ABOUT 2PAC? On a Melle Mel's video at that!! MAKE IT BRIEF!!
And he shot the 2 cops before he was convicted for that bogus sexual assault charge in case you wanted some more information that u didn't know about Pac.
@camgan1 Oh yeah before i go, you are right about that, he shot the 2 guys 1 month before he committed sexual assault LOL. Seems that it happened AFTER he beat the other rapper with a baseball bat though. I'm no lawyer, but I 'm pretty sure assault with a weapon is a FELONY LOL..
U think ur aguing well when ur ignoring every counter point and coming back to the thug thing every time. He didn't have a negative definition of thug. He wasn't a perfect person. "Rose that grew from concrete". Thats how he described himself. Add another thing to your research list buddy. If u think 2Pac didn't help the community just look up donations and charities Pac contributed to. Not to mention the Thug Life code which u didn't know anything about until I told u and still seem to overlook
His rap group consisted of several rappers from the East coast and Pac said himself it's not about east and west. Just give it up man. Ur just adding more and more shit in every post that shows me u know nothing about Pac. Pac's definition of a thug wasn't negative. U can't claim to know 2Pac and not know that. And Pac wasn't a perfect guy. He didn't support senseless crime and violence in his songs but that doesn't mean he won't get in a fight. And it wasn't a random person. The guy was a crip.
@camgan1 You dont get it and you never will. Fighting some just because "he was a crip" IS SENSELESS ! Shooting 2 off duty cops when they were not even armed IS SENSELESS ! Spitting on tv camera's IS SENSELESS ! That gay Thug Life code IS SENSELESS ! Who enforces the code ? Do you pay a fine if you violate ? Do Thugs carry the code around with them to make sure they dont violate it ? It dont work that way SON. You may fall for that shit up in Canada, but try rolling through any hood in the USA..
@Bootlegger718 He didn't fight the crip for no reason, The 2 cops were harassing someone and the charges were dropped because the OFF DUTY cops were corrupt people and were using a stolen weapon, the thug life code was made to help the community, a large group of Crips and bloods had a meeting where they agreed to adhere to the code in order to HELP THEIR COMMUNITY. U make no sense. Just tell me how all of that didn't prove my point that u don't know Pac? answer that one question.
@camgan1 If Pac wasnt a celebrity he would have been DEAD that day ! The crips and bloods meeting, like I said, who enforces that shit. HHHmm should I sign this bullshit code and let the public think I'm doing something good or throw it in the trash because it isnt worth the paper its written on LOL. You proved my POINT BOY WONDER<<< YOU FELL FOR THE HYPE ! Read about the Machavellian personality he was so proud of. YOU WERE MANIPULATED DUMBY !
@camgan1 Oh one more thing. Why did pac even have a gun to begin with JACKASS ! Wasnt he a convicted felon for that sexual assault conviction LOL.. Here come the excuses for the well doer TUPAC LOL !!!
@Bootlegger718 You are trying to counter points about Pac that I brought up which you obviously didn't know before I just told you. Thats the whole point of the argument. U don't know Pac. Honestly, what is wrong with you? How do u not understand that. Look your post about the senseless violence he did and look at my response. U DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THAT. Ur just researching legal trouble that 2Pac got into and posting on here. I haven't looked up shit except the Thug Life Code to show it to you.
@camgan1 Look man, once again you have been entertaining. In fact you got pimped yesterday you silly TRICK ! So you will understand I will explain it to you.
THE FACT that when Pac was asked by elderly black man, "why be a thug" Pac didnt respond with some silly acronym or some obscure thought provoking answer. It was simple.answer. He ACKNOWLEDGED HE WAS A THUG !
So, when Pac acknowledges the fact and fools like you still claim he wasnt thats just funny. Honestly what does that say about you!
@camgan1 maybe you know more about Pac than he knew about himself LOL !
Havent you learned how to argue a point in college yet ? They must not t teach that up in Canada LOL. You state you your position, then you supply FACTS with REFERENCES CITING THE SOURCE !!!! The "I just know" shit doesnt hold weight. So again, watching you fumble through post after post has been funny for me and the homies, but you have gotten old.
@camgan1 waving that gay ass code and you will be the next VIC LOL. You have done nothing here but prove that you are one of the dumb asses that fell for that "Pac has good intentions" bullshit. Hell, if you ask the Jim Jones followers today, they would tell you he had good intentions !
A man is judged by his actions and what he does in life. One look at pac's criminal record speaks for itself.
As far as the East x West beef, shows how much you truely know about it, Canadians LOL.
@camgan1 OK LOL. Who is the fool, Tupac for saying that or dumb asses like you believing it LOL!!!
Heres some more proof of Pac's "senseless violence"
Got into fight with Limo driver who accused him of doing drugs in the back seat.
Beat a Michigan rap artist with a baseball bat.
Seems he couldnt follow the own damn code he helped write LOL. Go ahead with your silly ass. I bet your dumb ass believed Bush with his WMD bullshit and Iraq. You are Naive and Gullible. CRUMB
@camgan1 Pac's definition of a thug wasnt negative. maybe thats part of the problem dumb ass. What Pac thought about thugs and what the rest of the world understood about thugs were completely different !You keep waving that pac flag along with your peace sign and just watch as people laugh AT YOU LOL !!!!!!
@Bootlegger718 Ur not even arguing about what it started with. U can say whatever u want about Pac because u don't know him. R u ten years old? U don't know how to properly argue.
U didn't look up the Code of Thug Life did you? And Pac and the Outlawz purposefully took the names of people society looked down on because in his eyes thats how society viewed him. U DON"T KNOW SHIT ABOUT PAC OR THE OUTLAWS. I wish i could do something to get that point across more because u don't seem to get it.
Just look up the code of thug life right now and tell me Pac isn't trying to help the community. U were saying that u never said that u were a Pac fan. Well I am. I know about 2Pac. U obviously don't understand the message 2Pac was trying to present. There are interviews where he says he is trying to help the world. This argument honestly makes no sense. U are saying he is glorifying what he himself says he is not glorifying.
@camgan1 I'm glad the great Pac fan came back for this. I did a little fact checking, something you should have done. In an interview titled THIS THUGS LIFE Pac was asked by a elderly black man, "why be a thug" Pac responded "Because if I dont, I'll lose everything I have. Who else is going to love me but THUGS". Notice that statement is in QUOTES> That silly acronym came up after the fact
Maybe you should read GREAT PAC FAN. You will also learn he had a pending civil case against him for.....
@camgan1 the wrongful death of a 6 year old boy that was shot and killed when he was caught in the crossfire between Pac's gang and another gang in 1992. Then later that year, a woman filed a multi million dollar suit against Pac claiming his music inspired a young black man to kill her husband who was a cop. Or what about his arrest after moving to ATL. for the shooting of two off duty police officers during a traffic altercation. There, that should be enough proof for any fool, including you..
@Bootlegger718 Ur taking things out of context man. U have to look all this stuff up because u don't already know it. Did u know why he shot those 2 cops? Obviously not u fucking tool. They were harassing someone and he was defending them you moron. U know he was never charged for that because the cops had taken their gun from an evidence locker. Just admit u don't know Pac. U don't have to admit your an idiot. Which u are. And did u look up the code of thug life?
@camgan1 All I see you doing is coming up with excuses for pac's THUG behavior LOL.. Yeah, I'm going to shoot 2 people because I was defending someone. That's a great defense LOL
Pac spelled it out for you morons when he took the name "Makavelli". Do your math with that one smart guy, wait I'll save you the headache. He got the name from the author of the book called "The Prince", Machiavelli.
Now to get to my point, look up Machiavellian personality here ya go; "Someone who gets pleasure ...
@Bootlegger718 Pac created the code of Thug Life to help the community. My god your stupid. I love how u have to research everything about Pac when the argument is whether or not u actually know Pac. Thanks for proving my point urself.
@camgan1 to see that Pac was a THUG, who glamorized THUG LIFE. For more information on your great thinking help the world Pac, go to tupacfans, interviews, THIS THUGS LIFE.
You have just been served SON. So take your Melle Mel hatin Pac jock riding simple ass back to your Canadian Hip Hop History classes. Maybe they will teacvh you who Curtis Jackson stole is official G's name from, but I doubt it LMAO!!!
@camgan1 I dont need research to know Pac was a THUG ! I simply gace FACTUAL EVIDENCE to my claim that he was a THUG.. Are you a child or something ? Does your mother know you are on the internet using foul language LOL ! I state my position about Pacx and support them with FACT and what do you have to say, NOTHING. Its because you cant you fool. The other guy you were arguing with is right, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN OBSERVER LOOKING IN WHO INDEED HAS NO CLUE.! I'm done wasting my time with you.
@camgan1 Oh yeah, one last thing. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what Pac ment when he said "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays" using your acronym bullshit.... I know what it means and I'm sure that 99.9% of the world understands it to mean the exact same thing as I do.........Put up or shut up, or maybe you are to busy watching people smoke weed on YOUTUBE Ha Ha Ha Ha
U've never heard the song Nigga Blues have u? Pac didn't support senseless crimes but he understood that people in impoverished areas some times have to turn to crime. And a lot of the times, it does pay. Now get ur poser ass outta here.
@camgan1 One Last Time. This board isnt even about Pac, its about Melle Mel. You started with this crap when you said Mel sucked and he isnt better than Pac. I dont give a fuck about Pac. I once liked him, but that was before he flipped coasts and lost his damn mind LOL! Of course you probably dont understand all of that. You have done nothing here other than post your OPINIONS of Pac supported by NO FACTS. When confronted with FACTS, you either ignore them or give some lame excuse instead of..
@camgan1 countering with FACTS. Pac didnt support senseless crime LOL. What was he doing stomping that dude down on the video afterthe Tyson fight ? You are right, some people do have to turn to crime to make ends meat, most of the time its known as THUG LIFE !
I dont need some thug life code bullshit posted you fool. I know what thug life is all about !
Oh yeah, and that "poser" shit. Did you pick that up at the skateboard park before you got tossed out for being one :LOL !!!
@Bootlegger718 No one ever said Pac was a saint. Pac described it as a rose that grew from concrete. You can go do some more research on that if u want while ur looking up some shit on wikipedia about Pac's life. You just can't get over the fact that u lost an argument on youtube. I was just saying that if u think he supports violence and crime u don't know him very well. I even said not to take it as an insult. But u had to be an idiot. U have to be either stubborn or really dumb. Or both maybe
@Bootlegger718 Please don't post some more stupid shit that further proves the only point of the argument. That u don't know 2Pac. U said urself u don't like him. Obviously a true fan that listens to 2Pac daily and knows more than 10 songs by him will know him more. U also seem to be an idiot, which seems to further take away from your understanding of 2Pac's music and facts that are presented to you.
Enough with the white devil cracker. The Bronx is the Mecca of Hiphop Culture. But black, white, hispanic and asian have all had parts in it's development and growth. Melle Mel, Flash, Bam and all the early rappers paved the way for these young nobodies to make a boat load of cash for sub par music. Let's just hope they get there due from Old school Tours, new releases and awards. Damn I can't believe you said white devil cracker. Let's hope our children grow up with a better attitude.
@camgan1 you sound so dangerously like the same "white" people who stole rock. it's always the same shit...the rock n' roll of the early days doesn't sound like the "rock n' roll" of today. Because white people aped the music and then redefined it in terms of how they interpreted the raw energy of the Black youth. Now we're supposed to just forget about legends like Melle Mel b/c he didn't make a "good video" or metaphors, punch lines, etc., according to YOUR standards?? Eat a dick
@ankokugaiBOSS I sincerely hope you have been lying this whole time about your age and you are a 13 year old because every word you type is so ignorant and lacks the basic structures for what constitutes having an actual argument (which is proving a point about something). You insert random bullshit into it such as asking why I haven't found 2pacs killer. Have fun listening to a roided out over the hill rapper. I guess I'll keep listening to rappers with talent. U truly are a sad strange man.
@camgan1 since I'm "sad and strange" it questions your mentality as well that you would care to exchange dialogue thinking that you're making some kind of point. Fact 1: even if Melle Mel WASN'T good lyrically he would still be a legend
Fact 2:having a "basic" flow consisting of the criteria you mentioned doesn't necessarily constitute what a "good rapper" is
Fact 3: You THINK you are much smarter than me, but then again, after being around its master, a dog will THINK it is human..that's you
@camgan1 that's exactly the point and this is a valuable lesson in life. I listen to whoever the fuck i want to listen to and you can do the same. You do not need to go around picking random fights with people because you have your opinion about something and need others to share your view. That is so childish, but hey a hard head makes a soft behind and somebody out there will eventually teach you about that in the real world when you pop shit. No matter how "smart" you think you are.
@ankokugaiBOSS U were asking for an argument when u said this piece of shit rapper was in any way better than Pac, Biggie, or Bob Marley. He isn't better than any of them in any way. Simple as that.
@camgan1 hahah! i did not say he was "better". Are you supposed to be "smart"? I just said give the legends their props while they are still alive and not when they die then I referenced pac, biggy, bob marley, etc., Having a conversation with you is like talking to a corpse because that's what you'll be pretty soon the way you go around asserting your entitlement issues. I'd love to see you in New York saying Melle Mel is a piece of shit.
@ankokugaiBOSS You come off like you have some education and I'll give you props for that but it is people like you that hold us as a race down with this "dumb niggers" and "devil cracker white shitheads" statements. Hip Hop has simply turned into a business and has strayed from its roots. Its about the green these days and the last time I looked you cant get green by mixing black and white. Real Hip Hop is about telling the truth and dropping knowledge, not about what race or color you are
@Bootlegger718 if you have anything going for you, then no one should be able to hold you down no matter what they say or do. Dick Gregory wrote a book called "Nigger" and he's been dropping knowledge since before I (and probably you) were born. And again, i dropped my 2 cents that is all. I said give a legend his props before they croak. If you focus on the negative stuff you sometimes miss the real message and the meaning. Thanks for the props.
@ankokugaiBOSS Not focusing on the negative man but I simply wanted to point out that those statements really TOOK AWAY from your real message. Melle Mel is one of the greatest in my opinion too and I agree, he doesnt get the credit he deserves.Oh yeah, UP TOWN BABY, UP TOWN BABY !
@Bootlegger718 i gotcha playea..it was a year ago when i made the comment and i was emotional at the time. You understand; i grew up on Melle Mel's music and i'm one of the many kids that his voice & music touched. I don't take nothing away from what 2pac or big contributed to the art, but b/c those cats are dead doesn't mean that they are the "end all" to the music like a lot of people make them out to be. stay UP!
@ankokugaiBOSS Gotcha man, big ups to the boogie down. I'm 41 years old and was runnin all around the bx in the mid to late 80's doing that thing but had to grow up and get on with a more positive thing. I stayed on east 229th street for a year or two (edenwald) but was also all over soundview (monroe, bronxdale). So I think we both know what time it is.
@Bootlegger718 morrisania 171 claremont park. Yeah man I was checking out your page and saw we like mostly the same kind of music. I dig that old school and KRS ONE, kool moe dee. I heard you loud and clear and in the future I won't use that same language when i post. stay UP
@ankokugaiBOSS You can probably tell by, seeing some of the other videos I have on my favorites page, what I think of the rappers now days ! Its sad to say but hip hop is almost deaed... These new kids sound real pretty but they arent saying NOTHINGI !'m just glad I have a huge selection of mix cd's and tapes. Yes, I still have a casette player on my car! Just for the Buckwild and Doo Wop tapes I have not to mention Chuck Chillout , Red Alert and Pete Rock !
@ankokugaiBOSS U said people shouldn't be hanging on their nuts and should give the respect to melle mel. He doesn't deserve as much respect as any of those people because he wasn't as talented as any of them and he wasn't as good of a person as pac or marley.
@camgan1 I wasnt going to get into this squabble as everyone does have a opinion but calling Melle Mel a piece of shit is BLASPHEMY ! I bet if you could ask pac or Big who inspired them to rap Melle Mel's name would have been mentioned. Just the fact Big refrenced dying "like Ramo from Beat Street" should tell you something. Pac violated when he flipped coasts to begin with, then he PROMOTES thug life Its one thing to talk about whats going down but another thing to inspire violence and crime
@Bootlegger718 i was trying to say the same thing before things went to the ugly side, but despite the freedoms in the world, there're things u just can't really do and 1 is yell "fire" in a crowded theater when there isn't one, and also tell a bronxer down with hip hop since almost day one that the true legends "suck" based on the opinion of new jacks born of a different era and geographical background. That's all.
@Bootlegger718 I really didn't have a problem with Melle mel until i saw a video on youtube of him rapping claiming to be the best of all time. I consider this blasphemy since in the video he specifically pointed out that he is better than big and pac which in reality he is not even on the same level. He was an innovator and influenced all of rap but in his time, rap didn't require as much talent.
@camgan1 I look at it like this, how many rappers or mc's have you ever seen come out and say "well so and so is better than me". Know what I'm saying? He didnt diss them like he dissed joe buddens ! Here something for you, KRS in fact beat Mel live at the Latin Quarter back in the day but he still says he is better than KRS. If you dont bvelieve me, you can probably google it and find something about it. I personally wasnt at the show but my people were there and told me about it first hand.
@Bootlegger718 Im not surprised Krs would beat Melle Mel because Krs is a lot more talented of a rapper. I feel like KRS was able to evolve his lyrics and flow much better over the years than Melle Mel could. That being said, I know a hell of a lot of rappers that are much more talented than Melle Mel who would never say they are better than big or pac. In fact, I don't think I have heard any other rapper in my life claiming to be better than big or pac.
@Bootlegger718 Its one thing for a rapper to say that someone is better than him, obviously no one wants to do that. It is completely different for him to bring up big and pac specifically and claim to be better than them. And honestly, even though I don't really like joe budden and i thnk it was stupid what he said, I could completely understand the point he was trying to make because rap has evolved in the past 30 years and Melle Mel is honestly not up to par by todays standards of lyrical rap
@Bootlegger718 Pac promoted ANYTHING but violence and crime. I'm not trying to insult you but I honestly find it very hard to believe you know much of anything about Pac as a person or rapper if you think that what he promoted was violence and crime in any way.
T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E. - The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody
@camgan1 DAMN thats funny as HELL ! Did you go take a hip hop history class up in Canada or somthing LOL ??? Or did it just take you a couple of months to come up with this bullshit ? "The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody" LMAO ! I guess Pac was using texting skills before anyone else did (U=you) LOL.. Pac would smack you for saying that SON ! Go away SIMPLETON ! At least Pac just didnt talk about dirt like these new cats do, but look where it got him,,,,
@Bootlegger718 Exactly...man, I thought this conversation was over with about 3 months ago. All of a sudden, I guess this Canadian or Icelander or Sweede just woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided he wanted to continue arguing, or he was feeling evil or disagreeable. Or maybe he's taking a college course on debate and three months is how long it took for him to come up with something he deemed worthwhile to rebut. Man, I'm done with this.
@camgan1 This bullshit is so funny I had to come back and say something else. So, according to you when Pac says "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays" in one of his songs he is really saying "The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody, Crime Pays" ??? Come on SON, That doesnt make ANY sense what so ever LMAO !!!! Wait, what about when he says "He Yelled Thug Life and Emptied His Clip" , you are ridiculous with that nonsense.
@Bootlegger718 And if you really want me to explain Pac's philosophy behind his lyrics that you see as promoting violence I could do it but it would take several posts probably. The basic gist consists of Pac showing everyone what society had made him. He was acting as a representation for all people living at the bottom of the economic chain who don't have a choice but crime. And often times crime does pay for these people. "My stomach hurts so I'm lookin for a purse to snatch"
@camgan1 Listen SON, I was going to see Pac live when you were watching your silly cartoons shows like the Simpsons in the mid 90's, but you think you are going to school me on this ? Did Pac struggle as a child YES. Did Pac do what he had to do to survive YES. Did Pac write about it YES. He also glamorized it you moron. I guess the reason he stomped that guy down right before he got shot was so he could get some food LMAO !!! No more replies from me to IGNORANT KNOW IT ALLS !
@Bootlegger718 How can u sit there pretending u know shit about Pac wen u don't even know the meaning of Thug Life. Ur a fucking poser dude. U have completely missed the point behind Pac's music and I'm supposed to be the ignorant one. Just look up Thug Life and educate yourself because u honestly don't know shit. Pac didn't promote unnecessary violence. I don't want to have to explain his whole life to u but he was a complex guy. Not everything he did was good but overall he had good intentions
@Bootlegger718 If u think u can't beat someones ass and still send a positive message to the world then I don't know what to tell you. Pac would be rolling over in his grave if he knew someone like you was saying this shit. As he said, he wants to spark the brain that will change the world and ur not doing him any favors. I think thats enough schooling for u today. Tonight's homework is to learn more about Pac and try and come at me with some stupid ass argument saying he's promoting violence.
@camgan1 LMAO LMAO LMAO !!! Ok smart guy, show me where Pac said Thug Life was an acronym. Not what someone else said, WHERE HE SAID IT ! PUT UP OR SHUT UP ! UNTIL THEN GO AWAY WITH YOUR CARTOON WATCHING SILLY ASS !
This page is about Melle Mel anyway, take your nonsense to a Pac page and pop that noise and see what happens.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me what Pac ment when he screamed "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays" ??? If that isnt proof of glamorizing Thug Life, what is it ?
@Bootlegger718 "2pac acronim of thug life" Is the exact title of the video with him saying it. R u done trying to act like you know shit? Get the fuck outta here tryna school me on Pac. How dumb are you man? You could have found that shit urself. I told u to look up thug life before tryna come with another dumbass argument. And if u really want me to make u look even dumber I can explain that line to u. All u have to do is ask. But honestly Im tired of having to explain things to u like a child
@camgan1 How stupid can one person be. Thats not listed on the title of the song (reference cd track list "Loyality to the Game), its some stupid ass thing someone posted on his video link LMAO ! I Second, no where in the song does Pac say it LOL ! Third, the video thats posted with that bullshit doesnt even sound like the original version to me !! guess you bvelieve everything you read or see on the YOUTUBE HA HA HA HA...... Go away now SON, you have been properly schooled on this matter.
@camgan1 You are a prime example of whats wrong with hip hop and the world. You read or see something on the computer or tv and you believe it all without question. Next, you think you have real life experience in what you have READ about or SEEN on TV. Then you think you can go out and hang with the REAL people who have lived it or done it. Get off the computer and live some SON, and get some REAL life experiences. Then maybe you will learn to appreciate things for what they really are.
@camgan1 Oh yeah, thats not even an "Official Video" yet you choose to use that as proof ROTFLMAO!!! Mel is talking about people like you in this song, maybe thats why you dont like it.... Were you in fact "conceived in the back of a Jag or a Suv" LOL.
@Bootlegger718 Its a video of 2Pac saying it himself. Get over yourself dude. U lost. U don't know shit about Pac. U can admit it. I have honestly never seen someone claiming to be a Pac fan and not even knowing what thug life is. "Tupac explains thug life" U need another one? He says it in that video. People are quick to dismiss others when they are proved wrong. I also like you changing the subject. Nice job D bag. U have managed to be a tool and an idiot.
@camgan1 An 18 second clip where Pac says what Thug Life "stands for". I wonder why they only show those 18 seconds ? What does he say in the rest of the clip. Heres the truth for you, just because you are born without doesnt give you the rught to go out and live out THUG LIFE. Can you comprehend that ? Pac did it. Pac glamorized it. Pac led impressionable people down the THUG LIFE path. Finally Pac died the way a THUG dies. Mel on the other hand told people about it and to stay away from it !
@camgan1 Last, but not least, I NEVER claimed to be a Pac fan !!!! Most that listend to Pac thought they too could live the THUG LIFE. Succers like you buy that acronym bullshit. Funny the only place I've ever seen it has now been on 18 second clip on YOUTUBE. I guess if someone pulls out a 18 second video of him saying not to not smoke weed, you would buy that to lol.
@Bootlegger718 If ur not a Pac fan then y r u arguing about a fact that you are obviously wrong about. U have to know ur wrong at this point. just get over it. U can listen to Melle Mel. I'll keep listening to rappers with talent. Just don't act like you know what your talking about when you obviously don't know anything about 2Pac. And claiming that you saw him live (which u probably didn't) will obviously lead people to believe ur a fan.
@camgan1 What exactly am I wrong about ? That he never said that silly ass acronym shit ? What was the question before he said that ? Who was asking the question ? If I ask the President what else can U.S.A, stand for and he comes up with something else and then I post it on youtube leaving out the question, what would it sound like ? Nor did I hear Pac say "this is the only thing thug life means". While you study Thug life on the net, I LIVED IT ! I nkow what Pac was saying.
@camgan1 If THUG LIFE was in fact an acronym and ONLY THAT, why isnt there and periods between the letters on his stomach you fool LOL ! If I have failed on this board it is only proving you are ignorant and do not have a clue about Hip Hop. I have failed because you did a better job of proving that fact than I ever could of !!!!!
thats knowledge ;D))
Kevin17536 5 days ago
It is a cool positive video
blackmanta07 1 month ago
I love 50 cent...but I also love melle Mel
blackmanta07 1 month ago
HOW 'BOUT BITCHES AINT SHIT!?
NOW DAT THERE'S A MUTHAFUCKIN HIT! DAWG!
LeComteDeVersaille 1 month ago in playlist rap4
Old skool, New skool, Melle Mel's alaways Kool!
kebaamadousow1 2 months ago 3
mpc stock sounds...lmfao
tlalok09 2 months ago
That give me the energy to still believe the past for the future :-)
ahh,yeah
syr,for my english,hehe
TiefausdenGassen 3 months ago
buff k serio ijo mio ..
TheHoodFinest 4 months ago
lol
JustBeBased 4 months ago
This is real hip hop artist. It's sad that more children listen to 50 cent and other commercial rappers. They can only leanr new generations about prostitution, drugs, disrespecting women etc. Love from Croatia!
anty17 4 months ago
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anty17 4 months ago
14 people didn't get the message
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Big up !
Maindo94 5 months ago
Melle Mel's DNA is deep in Hip-Hop!
RareHipHopdotcomTV 5 months ago
great video great song ! respect from Serbia
TetrapakProdzekt 5 months ago 9
@TetrapakProdzekt Pokido je brate :-)
anty17 4 months ago
@anty17 tako je braćo :)
loonaya 4 months ago
like how he's holding up the world, at the end of the video
agonmizelle 5 months ago
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agonmizelle 5 months ago
nice video for very small budget
zer0nable 5 months ago
best rap of the year!!!!
rafyraf100 5 months ago
Mel always flows with a message
dreadtodred 6 months ago
back 2 the true roots of hiphop!!!a real message not hoes,dope n fancy cars n enuf guts 2 call out 50cent 4 being wak as fuk.BRING THE OLD SKOOL BAK,PUBLIC ENEMY,KRS1 BDP,MOS DEF,DE LA SOUL,BEASTIE BOYS,RUN DMC,KURTIS BLOW.
nuphzy 6 months ago
flow and "message" of this sequel ain't bad! but why do they spell melle mel's name different at the intro sequence and use such video effects like negative filter and stuff that makes the production look very amateurish? even the instrumental is not that fire that the stuff used to be back in the days. they use this damn guitar sample, which is preset on every mpc, stuff that you normally delete before you start sampling with your machine...
mcloink 6 months ago
Old school flow!
FateUnderground 6 months ago
how can we get this video to air it on getto video?
GETOETV 6 months ago
this is much later in his career and he should not be faulted for trying to stay with current musc trends. after all he is trying to sell. but melle mel will always have the potential to blow up a mic.dont sleep.also he really doesn't really have to prove a damn thing. he already solidified his name as a world class mcee.
DonBrando2010 7 months ago 2
this song is one of eminems inspirations,
SMJS94 7 months ago
@SMJS94 How old are you ?
sclapione 6 months ago
@sclapione 16 and trust me i'm right
SMJS94 6 months ago
@SMJS94 how do you "know" this
myspam512 5 months ago
@myspam512 its in his biography
SMJS94 5 months ago
@SMJS94 oh his bio? fa sho.
just asking.
that shit sounds like it would be cool to check out though, is it written or a video?
myspam512 5 months ago
@myspam512 its written man
SMJS94 5 months ago
@SMJS94
you mean the first Message track .. this one is from 2007
zer0nable 5 months ago
I don't understand why he's showing fifty's poster all the time...
canisloop 7 months ago
Eminem said when he started rapping that his rapping style was influenced by this song..
ICExRED 7 months ago
@ICExRED He was probably talking about the original "The Message" from like 1980, this is the sequel to it.
grungegopher 7 months ago
1:53 ..warren geeee ?
LowRagg 8 months ago
now without disrespecting that melle is the pioneer of hiphop
you all gotta see that even if he was the first one that wouldnt make him the best like cars ford is the first car made but does it mean its the best no we got more and more of brands thats turned out way better then ford
so he might be the first rapper he aint the best rapper if i listen to his lyrics im not like woowww what a rap
when i listen to 2pac nwa big daddy kane public enemy
but especially 2pac i get feeling like wooow
zaantjedam123 9 months ago
@zaantjedam123 While I agree that the first is rarely the best, I actually think Tupac and NWA fucked up the future of rap.
dratsabREVIEWS 9 months ago
@dratsabREVIEWS so you means songs like keep ya head up and brendas got a baby and white mans world and and alot alot alot of more beautifull songs fucked up the future of rap nigga 2pac owned rap when he lived even when hw died hiphop was still owned by pac
you dont know pac so shut up
but to say about nwa i think your right because they were gangster rappers pac was no gangster rapper
but nwa make great songs too even if they were violent straight from the ghetto Compton
zaantjedam123 9 months ago
This is the weakest beat I've heard in a while.
JesusLoveMonster 10 months ago
@JesusLoveMonster haahah true his whole lyrics is weak
zaantjedam123 7 months ago
Melle Mel should be doing what he wants until god calls him home.
beatmakersuniversity 10 months ago
melle mel is the best rapper alive
hardieboy76 10 months ago
@blakphantom 2Pac obviously knew that he was better than Melle Mel. I'm not saying Melle Mel sucked 20 or 30 years ago but he sucks now. I have respect for Melle Mel as a rap pioneer. I have said that 100 times by now. There is no way that anyone should be able to tell me that this song is good though. Obviously The Message and the shit Mel did with the Furious Five changed the course of rap but that doesn't mean the dude should be making stupid ass songs and videos 30 years later.
camgan1 10 months ago
@blakphantom I would rather not have to sacrifice and listen to something with personality and ability and a message.
camgan1 10 months ago
I'm going through the comments and I want to know one thing: HOW DID IT GO FROM MELLE MEL TO TALKING ABOUT 2PAC? On a Melle Mel's video at that!! MAKE IT BRIEF!!
JLJ310 10 months ago
this is very depressing, people who actually think this is a good song are psychotic, but this dude is a legend
acerza89 10 months ago
could only wish i knew this guy lol
Nomorehataz 11 months ago
and the next disc of melle mel?
FerreiraFederico 11 months ago
rap legends would be better of rappiing like they used to. not trying to copy the crap that's made 2day!
deadstock82 11 months ago
@deadstock82 nooooooo this is cool man
rezpatriot 11 months ago
@rezpatriot
sorry mate. this new shit is simply wack.
this is where it's at
watch?v=rhkOPNRV8Pk
deadstock82 11 months ago
@deadstock82 you're right there
rezpatriot 11 months ago
Killer song :X
TimDog8989 11 months ago
dont think ,dont move, dont talk.....this song is all the money ;)
TheAstrofighter 1 year ago
How about bitches aint shit! Now that's a hit LMAO! I like this ! I would buy cause its mell LOL
blackghost0000 1 year ago
pac did alot for all his fans
he tells us how to deal with love with hate with beef with your enemies
with god with your faith with chasing money with the corupt police and goverment
NO OTHER RAPPER CAN DO THAT EVEN THE RAPPERS THAT STARTED HIPHOP
RIP 2PAC LOVE YOU SOO FCKNG MUCHH
zaantjedam123 1 year ago
is he gay..?
Jaap95 1 year ago
he might spend alot of time at the gym but judging by the track he probly spends more time writing his raps. putting thought into it
trueshumblyunited 1 year ago 13
@trueshumblyunited Chooooooon!
martynpank 6 months ago
@martynpank had to hit up urbandictionary for that one
trueshumblyunited 5 months ago
mannnnnnnnn this is terrible..
cetnickiponos 1 year ago
melle mel : #1 on "there's a god on the mic" by 'kool dee moe'............the whole list is a joke
SZS0001 1 year ago
This is fucking terrible.
colinmat12 1 year ago
*People pissin' on the stairs, you know they just don't care* the message 82
* & i wish I could find out, whos always pissin in the elevator* the message 07
fetish!?
xaxaxaxa96 1 year ago 2
That man got some muscles.
Beastie06 1 year ago
If there was a better beat and he delivered the lyrics better, this would be a badass song.
postuleo 1 year ago
"you might be hard to swallow but you suck" man after all these years this guy never fell off lyrically
siwooot 1 year ago
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camgan1 1 year ago
And he shot the 2 cops before he was convicted for that bogus sexual assault charge in case you wanted some more information that u didn't know about Pac.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 Oh yeah before i go, you are right about that, he shot the 2 guys 1 month before he committed sexual assault LOL. Seems that it happened AFTER he beat the other rapper with a baseball bat though. I'm no lawyer, but I 'm pretty sure assault with a weapon is a FELONY LOL..
Mow go away.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
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U think ur aguing well when ur ignoring every counter point and coming back to the thug thing every time. He didn't have a negative definition of thug. He wasn't a perfect person. "Rose that grew from concrete". Thats how he described himself. Add another thing to your research list buddy. If u think 2Pac didn't help the community just look up donations and charities Pac contributed to. Not to mention the Thug Life code which u didn't know anything about until I told u and still seem to overlook
camgan1 1 year ago
His rap group consisted of several rappers from the East coast and Pac said himself it's not about east and west. Just give it up man. Ur just adding more and more shit in every post that shows me u know nothing about Pac. Pac's definition of a thug wasn't negative. U can't claim to know 2Pac and not know that. And Pac wasn't a perfect guy. He didn't support senseless crime and violence in his songs but that doesn't mean he won't get in a fight. And it wasn't a random person. The guy was a crip.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 You dont get it and you never will. Fighting some just because "he was a crip" IS SENSELESS ! Shooting 2 off duty cops when they were not even armed IS SENSELESS ! Spitting on tv camera's IS SENSELESS ! That gay Thug Life code IS SENSELESS ! Who enforces the code ? Do you pay a fine if you violate ? Do Thugs carry the code around with them to make sure they dont violate it ? It dont work that way SON. You may fall for that shit up in Canada, but try rolling through any hood in the USA..
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 He didn't fight the crip for no reason, The 2 cops were harassing someone and the charges were dropped because the OFF DUTY cops were corrupt people and were using a stolen weapon, the thug life code was made to help the community, a large group of Crips and bloods had a meeting where they agreed to adhere to the code in order to HELP THEIR COMMUNITY. U make no sense. Just tell me how all of that didn't prove my point that u don't know Pac? answer that one question.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 If Pac wasnt a celebrity he would have been DEAD that day ! The crips and bloods meeting, like I said, who enforces that shit. HHHmm should I sign this bullshit code and let the public think I'm doing something good or throw it in the trash because it isnt worth the paper its written on LOL. You proved my POINT BOY WONDER<<< YOU FELL FOR THE HYPE ! Read about the Machavellian personality he was so proud of. YOU WERE MANIPULATED DUMBY !
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 Oh one more thing. Why did pac even have a gun to begin with JACKASS ! Wasnt he a convicted felon for that sexual assault conviction LOL.. Here come the excuses for the well doer TUPAC LOL !!!
Go chase the Pac is alive shit around
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 You are trying to counter points about Pac that I brought up which you obviously didn't know before I just told you. Thats the whole point of the argument. U don't know Pac. Honestly, what is wrong with you? How do u not understand that. Look your post about the senseless violence he did and look at my response. U DIDN'T KNOW ANY OF THAT. Ur just researching legal trouble that 2Pac got into and posting on here. I haven't looked up shit except the Thug Life Code to show it to you.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 Look man, once again you have been entertaining. In fact you got pimped yesterday you silly TRICK ! So you will understand I will explain it to you.
THE FACT that when Pac was asked by elderly black man, "why be a thug" Pac didnt respond with some silly acronym or some obscure thought provoking answer. It was simple.answer. He ACKNOWLEDGED HE WAS A THUG !
So, when Pac acknowledges the fact and fools like you still claim he wasnt thats just funny. Honestly what does that say about you!
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 maybe you know more about Pac than he knew about himself LOL !
Havent you learned how to argue a point in college yet ? They must not t teach that up in Canada LOL. You state you your position, then you supply FACTS with REFERENCES CITING THE SOURCE !!!! The "I just know" shit doesnt hold weight. So again, watching you fumble through post after post has been funny for me and the homies, but you have gotten old.
YOU ARE KICKED TO THE CURB HOE
DONE
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
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@camgan1 waving that gay ass code and you will be the next VIC LOL. You have done nothing here but prove that you are one of the dumb asses that fell for that "Pac has good intentions" bullshit. Hell, if you ask the Jim Jones followers today, they would tell you he had good intentions !
A man is judged by his actions and what he does in life. One look at pac's criminal record speaks for itself.
As far as the East x West beef, shows how much you truely know about it, Canadians LOL.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 "Its not about East and West" Direct quote from Pac. U lost. Now get over it.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 OK LOL. Who is the fool, Tupac for saying that or dumb asses like you believing it LOL!!!
Heres some more proof of Pac's "senseless violence"
Got into fight with Limo driver who accused him of doing drugs in the back seat.
Beat a Michigan rap artist with a baseball bat.
Seems he couldnt follow the own damn code he helped write LOL. Go ahead with your silly ass. I bet your dumb ass believed Bush with his WMD bullshit and Iraq. You are Naive and Gullible. CRUMB
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 Pac's definition of a thug wasnt negative. maybe thats part of the problem dumb ass. What Pac thought about thugs and what the rest of the world understood about thugs were completely different !You keep waving that pac flag along with your peace sign and just watch as people laugh AT YOU LOL !!!!!!
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
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@Bootlegger718 Ur not even arguing about what it started with. U can say whatever u want about Pac because u don't know him. R u ten years old? U don't know how to properly argue.
camgan1 1 year ago
U didn't look up the Code of Thug Life did you? And Pac and the Outlawz purposefully took the names of people society looked down on because in his eyes thats how society viewed him. U DON"T KNOW SHIT ABOUT PAC OR THE OUTLAWS. I wish i could do something to get that point across more because u don't seem to get it.
camgan1 1 year ago
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camgan1 1 year ago
Just look up the code of thug life right now and tell me Pac isn't trying to help the community. U were saying that u never said that u were a Pac fan. Well I am. I know about 2Pac. U obviously don't understand the message 2Pac was trying to present. There are interviews where he says he is trying to help the world. This argument honestly makes no sense. U are saying he is glorifying what he himself says he is not glorifying.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 I'm glad the great Pac fan came back for this. I did a little fact checking, something you should have done. In an interview titled THIS THUGS LIFE Pac was asked by a elderly black man, "why be a thug" Pac responded "Because if I dont, I'll lose everything I have. Who else is going to love me but THUGS". Notice that statement is in QUOTES> That silly acronym came up after the fact
Maybe you should read GREAT PAC FAN. You will also learn he had a pending civil case against him for.....
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 the wrongful death of a 6 year old boy that was shot and killed when he was caught in the crossfire between Pac's gang and another gang in 1992. Then later that year, a woman filed a multi million dollar suit against Pac claiming his music inspired a young black man to kill her husband who was a cop. Or what about his arrest after moving to ATL. for the shooting of two off duty police officers during a traffic altercation. There, that should be enough proof for any fool, including you..
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Ur taking things out of context man. U have to look all this stuff up because u don't already know it. Did u know why he shot those 2 cops? Obviously not u fucking tool. They were harassing someone and he was defending them you moron. U know he was never charged for that because the cops had taken their gun from an evidence locker. Just admit u don't know Pac. U don't have to admit your an idiot. Which u are. And did u look up the code of thug life?
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 All I see you doing is coming up with excuses for pac's THUG behavior LOL.. Yeah, I'm going to shoot 2 people because I was defending someone. That's a great defense LOL
Pac spelled it out for you morons when he took the name "Makavelli". Do your math with that one smart guy, wait I'll save you the headache. He got the name from the author of the book called "The Prince", Machiavelli.
Now to get to my point, look up Machiavellian personality here ya go; "Someone who gets pleasure ...
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 from others causing others evil."
"That, and having the skills and savvy to manipulate others to do what you need them to do to serve you."
Sounds THUGISH to me !
I never said Pac didnt have skill, I never said Pac sucked. I agree whil Mel, he ruined a generation with all his Thug Life bullshit !
You are obviously blind to the fact you are blind as Flav would say. You have your face stuck on Pacs jock so hard you cant see he was 100% THUG !
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
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@Bootlegger718 Pac created the code of Thug Life to help the community. My god your stupid. I love how u have to research everything about Pac when the argument is whether or not u actually know Pac. Thanks for proving my point urself.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 to see that Pac was a THUG, who glamorized THUG LIFE. For more information on your great thinking help the world Pac, go to tupacfans, interviews, THIS THUGS LIFE.
You have just been served SON. So take your Melle Mel hatin Pac jock riding simple ass back to your Canadian Hip Hop History classes. Maybe they will teacvh you who Curtis Jackson stole is official G's name from, but I doubt it LMAO!!!
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 This whole time u have just made it more and more obvious that u don't know anything about Pac.
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Go do some more research that any real Pac fan would already know. Fucking Poser.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 I dont need research to know Pac was a THUG ! I simply gace FACTUAL EVIDENCE to my claim that he was a THUG.. Are you a child or something ? Does your mother know you are on the internet using foul language LOL ! I state my position about Pacx and support them with FACT and what do you have to say, NOTHING. Its because you cant you fool. The other guy you were arguing with is right, YOU ARE NOTHING BUT AN OBSERVER LOOKING IN WHO INDEED HAS NO CLUE.! I'm done wasting my time with you.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 6. Slinging to children is against the Code.
7. Having children slinging is against the Code.
8. No slinging in schools.
12. No slinging to pregnant Sisters.
14. Civilians are not a target and should be spared.
15. Harm to children will not be forgiven.
16. Attacking someone’s home where their family is known to reside, must be altered or checked.
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 17. Senseless brutality and rape must stop.
18. Our old folks must not be abused.
19. Respect our Sisters. Respect our Brothers.
20. Sisters in the Life must be respected if they respect themselves.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 Oh yeah, one last thing. I'm still waiting for you to tell me what Pac ment when he said "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays" using your acronym bullshit.... I know what it means and I'm sure that 99.9% of the world understands it to mean the exact same thing as I do.........Put up or shut up, or maybe you are to busy watching people smoke weed on YOUTUBE Ha Ha Ha Ha
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays"
U've never heard the song Nigga Blues have u? Pac didn't support senseless crimes but he understood that people in impoverished areas some times have to turn to crime. And a lot of the times, it does pay. Now get ur poser ass outta here.
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 How is it not obvious to u at this point that I know more about Pac then you? Anyone reading this could see that.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 One Last Time. This board isnt even about Pac, its about Melle Mel. You started with this crap when you said Mel sucked and he isnt better than Pac. I dont give a fuck about Pac. I once liked him, but that was before he flipped coasts and lost his damn mind LOL! Of course you probably dont understand all of that. You have done nothing here other than post your OPINIONS of Pac supported by NO FACTS. When confronted with FACTS, you either ignore them or give some lame excuse instead of..
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 countering with FACTS. Pac didnt support senseless crime LOL. What was he doing stomping that dude down on the video afterthe Tyson fight ? You are right, some people do have to turn to crime to make ends meat, most of the time its known as THUG LIFE !
I dont need some thug life code bullshit posted you fool. I know what thug life is all about !
Oh yeah, and that "poser" shit. Did you pick that up at the skateboard park before you got tossed out for being one :LOL !!!
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 No one ever said Pac was a saint. Pac described it as a rose that grew from concrete. You can go do some more research on that if u want while ur looking up some shit on wikipedia about Pac's life. You just can't get over the fact that u lost an argument on youtube. I was just saying that if u think he supports violence and crime u don't know him very well. I even said not to take it as an insult. But u had to be an idiot. U have to be either stubborn or really dumb. Or both maybe
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Please don't post some more stupid shit that further proves the only point of the argument. That u don't know 2Pac. U said urself u don't like him. Obviously a true fan that listens to 2Pac daily and knows more than 10 songs by him will know him more. U also seem to be an idiot, which seems to further take away from your understanding of 2Pac's music and facts that are presented to you.
camgan1 1 year ago
And the CD is Loyal to the Game. But u probably wouldn't know that.
camgan1 1 year ago
He's....among the pioneers of hip hop? (O___O)
ThousandBunnies 1 year ago
not the same flow as in the 80's but still got a strong message!
chezza55 1 year ago
that shit was banging...like the rap on this.
SIRSOSMOOTH 1 year ago
You create some of the most important songs ever; the only way is down.
Yes I'd prefer it is he was showing where the music has lost its way.
I think if modern lyrics were delivered at the same speed as The Message/White Lines they'd be horribly exposed.
If he can make some money now good luck to him!
jaaguitar 1 year ago
got nothing on the original message
PoorlyLandedKickflip 1 year ago
This is HORRIBLE, Wow!!
VoiceOfReezun 1 year ago
this makes me wanna lynch all these mainstream gangsta rappers
rodenrren 1 year ago
lol... Mel is still DOPE!
magnumpush 1 year ago 2
i cant fucking believe Bobby Robinson is in there alive and smiling! The man was born in 1917!
f4ust85 1 year ago 6
@f4ust85 he must a drank a lot of water and herb LOL!!
musiclover3928 4 months ago
what with the transexual dancer??? haha grandmaster melle mel was good back in the days but shit now he look like a jail fag buhl smh
prohittas 1 year ago 3
@prohittas my.... we know a lot about jail fag fashion, don't we, prohittas?
MsLettucePrey 1 year ago 3
This is truly awful.
TheFightSpecialist 1 year ago 3
windows movie maker fuck yeah!
stuffnthat12 1 year ago
Enough with the white devil cracker. The Bronx is the Mecca of Hiphop Culture. But black, white, hispanic and asian have all had parts in it's development and growth. Melle Mel, Flash, Bam and all the early rappers paved the way for these young nobodies to make a boat load of cash for sub par music. Let's just hope they get there due from Old school Tours, new releases and awards. Damn I can't believe you said white devil cracker. Let's hope our children grow up with a better attitude.
Jimmyspin11 1 year ago
@camgan1 you sound so dangerously like the same "white" people who stole rock. it's always the same shit...the rock n' roll of the early days doesn't sound like the "rock n' roll" of today. Because white people aped the music and then redefined it in terms of how they interpreted the raw energy of the Black youth. Now we're supposed to just forget about legends like Melle Mel b/c he didn't make a "good video" or metaphors, punch lines, etc., according to YOUR standards?? Eat a dick
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS And 2Pac put more "soul" into his music than Melle Mel ever could
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 if you "loved" 2pac so much........why the fuck have you never found out who killed HIM then? YOU FUCKING LIAR!
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS I sincerely hope you have been lying this whole time about your age and you are a 13 year old because every word you type is so ignorant and lacks the basic structures for what constitutes having an actual argument (which is proving a point about something). You insert random bullshit into it such as asking why I haven't found 2pacs killer. Have fun listening to a roided out over the hill rapper. I guess I'll keep listening to rappers with talent. U truly are a sad strange man.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 since I'm "sad and strange" it questions your mentality as well that you would care to exchange dialogue thinking that you're making some kind of point. Fact 1: even if Melle Mel WASN'T good lyrically he would still be a legend
Fact 2:having a "basic" flow consisting of the criteria you mentioned doesn't necessarily constitute what a "good rapper" is
Fact 3: You THINK you are much smarter than me, but then again, after being around its master, a dog will THINK it is human..that's you
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@camgan1 that's exactly the point and this is a valuable lesson in life. I listen to whoever the fuck i want to listen to and you can do the same. You do not need to go around picking random fights with people because you have your opinion about something and need others to share your view. That is so childish, but hey a hard head makes a soft behind and somebody out there will eventually teach you about that in the real world when you pop shit. No matter how "smart" you think you are.
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS U were asking for an argument when u said this piece of shit rapper was in any way better than Pac, Biggie, or Bob Marley. He isn't better than any of them in any way. Simple as that.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 hahah! i did not say he was "better". Are you supposed to be "smart"? I just said give the legends their props while they are still alive and not when they die then I referenced pac, biggy, bob marley, etc., Having a conversation with you is like talking to a corpse because that's what you'll be pretty soon the way you go around asserting your entitlement issues. I'd love to see you in New York saying Melle Mel is a piece of shit.
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS You come off like you have some education and I'll give you props for that but it is people like you that hold us as a race down with this "dumb niggers" and "devil cracker white shitheads" statements. Hip Hop has simply turned into a business and has strayed from its roots. Its about the green these days and the last time I looked you cant get green by mixing black and white. Real Hip Hop is about telling the truth and dropping knowledge, not about what race or color you are
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 if you have anything going for you, then no one should be able to hold you down no matter what they say or do. Dick Gregory wrote a book called "Nigger" and he's been dropping knowledge since before I (and probably you) were born. And again, i dropped my 2 cents that is all. I said give a legend his props before they croak. If you focus on the negative stuff you sometimes miss the real message and the meaning. Thanks for the props.
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS Not focusing on the negative man but I simply wanted to point out that those statements really TOOK AWAY from your real message. Melle Mel is one of the greatest in my opinion too and I agree, he doesnt get the credit he deserves.Oh yeah, UP TOWN BABY, UP TOWN BABY !
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 i gotcha playea..it was a year ago when i made the comment and i was emotional at the time. You understand; i grew up on Melle Mel's music and i'm one of the many kids that his voice & music touched. I don't take nothing away from what 2pac or big contributed to the art, but b/c those cats are dead doesn't mean that they are the "end all" to the music like a lot of people make them out to be. stay UP!
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS Gotcha man, big ups to the boogie down. I'm 41 years old and was runnin all around the bx in the mid to late 80's doing that thing but had to grow up and get on with a more positive thing. I stayed on east 229th street for a year or two (edenwald) but was also all over soundview (monroe, bronxdale). So I think we both know what time it is.
PEACE
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 morrisania 171 claremont park. Yeah man I was checking out your page and saw we like mostly the same kind of music. I dig that old school and KRS ONE, kool moe dee. I heard you loud and clear and in the future I won't use that same language when i post. stay UP
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS And Krs one is much better than melle mel too
camgan1 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS You can probably tell by, seeing some of the other videos I have on my favorites page, what I think of the rappers now days ! Its sad to say but hip hop is almost deaed... These new kids sound real pretty but they arent saying NOTHINGI !'m just glad I have a huge selection of mix cd's and tapes. Yes, I still have a casette player on my car! Just for the Buckwild and Doo Wop tapes I have not to mention Chuck Chillout , Red Alert and Pete Rock !
Peace Bro !
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS U said people shouldn't be hanging on their nuts and should give the respect to melle mel. He doesn't deserve as much respect as any of those people because he wasn't as talented as any of them and he wasn't as good of a person as pac or marley.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 I wasnt going to get into this squabble as everyone does have a opinion but calling Melle Mel a piece of shit is BLASPHEMY ! I bet if you could ask pac or Big who inspired them to rap Melle Mel's name would have been mentioned. Just the fact Big refrenced dying "like Ramo from Beat Street" should tell you something. Pac violated when he flipped coasts to begin with, then he PROMOTES thug life Its one thing to talk about whats going down but another thing to inspire violence and crime
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 i was trying to say the same thing before things went to the ugly side, but despite the freedoms in the world, there're things u just can't really do and 1 is yell "fire" in a crowded theater when there isn't one, and also tell a bronxer down with hip hop since almost day one that the true legends "suck" based on the opinion of new jacks born of a different era and geographical background. That's all.
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 I really didn't have a problem with Melle mel until i saw a video on youtube of him rapping claiming to be the best of all time. I consider this blasphemy since in the video he specifically pointed out that he is better than big and pac which in reality he is not even on the same level. He was an innovator and influenced all of rap but in his time, rap didn't require as much talent.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 I look at it like this, how many rappers or mc's have you ever seen come out and say "well so and so is better than me". Know what I'm saying? He didnt diss them like he dissed joe buddens ! Here something for you, KRS in fact beat Mel live at the Latin Quarter back in the day but he still says he is better than KRS. If you dont bvelieve me, you can probably google it and find something about it. I personally wasnt at the show but my people were there and told me about it first hand.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Im not surprised Krs would beat Melle Mel because Krs is a lot more talented of a rapper. I feel like KRS was able to evolve his lyrics and flow much better over the years than Melle Mel could. That being said, I know a hell of a lot of rappers that are much more talented than Melle Mel who would never say they are better than big or pac. In fact, I don't think I have heard any other rapper in my life claiming to be better than big or pac.
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Its one thing for a rapper to say that someone is better than him, obviously no one wants to do that. It is completely different for him to bring up big and pac specifically and claim to be better than them. And honestly, even though I don't really like joe budden and i thnk it was stupid what he said, I could completely understand the point he was trying to make because rap has evolved in the past 30 years and Melle Mel is honestly not up to par by todays standards of lyrical rap
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 And I'm not talking about Weezy, Gucci, Wiz Khalifa, or any of those other untalented fucks who r ruining rap.
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Pac promoted ANYTHING but violence and crime. I'm not trying to insult you but I honestly find it very hard to believe you know much of anything about Pac as a person or rapper if you think that what he promoted was violence and crime in any way.
T.H.U.G. L.I.F.E. - The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 DAMN thats funny as HELL ! Did you go take a hip hop history class up in Canada or somthing LOL ??? Or did it just take you a couple of months to come up with this bullshit ? "The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody" LMAO ! I guess Pac was using texting skills before anyone else did (U=you) LOL.. Pac would smack you for saying that SON ! Go away SIMPLETON ! At least Pac just didnt talk about dirt like these new cats do, but look where it got him,,,,
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Exactly...man, I thought this conversation was over with about 3 months ago. All of a sudden, I guess this Canadian or Icelander or Sweede just woke up on the wrong side of the bed and decided he wanted to continue arguing, or he was feeling evil or disagreeable. Or maybe he's taking a college course on debate and three months is how long it took for him to come up with something he deemed worthwhile to rebut. Man, I'm done with this.
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@ankokugaiBOSS The Hamburgler > Melle Mel
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 LOL! nice...
ankokugaiBOSS 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 That is the acronym Pac used himself....
Ur not allowed to argue about rap anymore because you obviously don't know about Pac.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 This bullshit is so funny I had to come back and say something else. So, according to you when Pac says "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays" in one of his songs he is really saying "The Hate U Give Little Infants Fucks Everybody, Crime Pays" ??? Come on SON, That doesnt make ANY sense what so ever LMAO !!!! Wait, what about when he says "He Yelled Thug Life and Emptied His Clip" , you are ridiculous with that nonsense.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 And if you really want me to explain Pac's philosophy behind his lyrics that you see as promoting violence I could do it but it would take several posts probably. The basic gist consists of Pac showing everyone what society had made him. He was acting as a representation for all people living at the bottom of the economic chain who don't have a choice but crime. And often times crime does pay for these people. "My stomach hurts so I'm lookin for a purse to snatch"
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 Listen SON, I was going to see Pac live when you were watching your silly cartoons shows like the Simpsons in the mid 90's, but you think you are going to school me on this ? Did Pac struggle as a child YES. Did Pac do what he had to do to survive YES. Did Pac write about it YES. He also glamorized it you moron. I guess the reason he stomped that guy down right before he got shot was so he could get some food LMAO !!! No more replies from me to IGNORANT KNOW IT ALLS !
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 How can u sit there pretending u know shit about Pac wen u don't even know the meaning of Thug Life. Ur a fucking poser dude. U have completely missed the point behind Pac's music and I'm supposed to be the ignorant one. Just look up Thug Life and educate yourself because u honestly don't know shit. Pac didn't promote unnecessary violence. I don't want to have to explain his whole life to u but he was a complex guy. Not everything he did was good but overall he had good intentions
camgan1 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 If u think u can't beat someones ass and still send a positive message to the world then I don't know what to tell you. Pac would be rolling over in his grave if he knew someone like you was saying this shit. As he said, he wants to spark the brain that will change the world and ur not doing him any favors. I think thats enough schooling for u today. Tonight's homework is to learn more about Pac and try and come at me with some stupid ass argument saying he's promoting violence.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 LMAO LMAO LMAO !!! Ok smart guy, show me where Pac said Thug Life was an acronym. Not what someone else said, WHERE HE SAID IT ! PUT UP OR SHUT UP ! UNTIL THEN GO AWAY WITH YOUR CARTOON WATCHING SILLY ASS !
This page is about Melle Mel anyway, take your nonsense to a Pac page and pop that noise and see what happens.
I'm still waiting for you to tell me what Pac ment when he screamed "Thug Life Mutha Fucka, Crime Pays" ??? If that isnt proof of glamorizing Thug Life, what is it ?
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 "2pac acronim of thug life" Is the exact title of the video with him saying it. R u done trying to act like you know shit? Get the fuck outta here tryna school me on Pac. How dumb are you man? You could have found that shit urself. I told u to look up thug life before tryna come with another dumbass argument. And if u really want me to make u look even dumber I can explain that line to u. All u have to do is ask. But honestly Im tired of having to explain things to u like a child
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 How stupid can one person be. Thats not listed on the title of the song (reference cd track list "Loyality to the Game), its some stupid ass thing someone posted on his video link LMAO ! I Second, no where in the song does Pac say it LOL ! Third, the video thats posted with that bullshit doesnt even sound like the original version to me !! guess you bvelieve everything you read or see on the YOUTUBE HA HA HA HA...... Go away now SON, you have been properly schooled on this matter.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 You are a prime example of whats wrong with hip hop and the world. You read or see something on the computer or tv and you believe it all without question. Next, you think you have real life experience in what you have READ about or SEEN on TV. Then you think you can go out and hang with the REAL people who have lived it or done it. Get off the computer and live some SON, and get some REAL life experiences. Then maybe you will learn to appreciate things for what they really are.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 Oh yeah, thats not even an "Official Video" yet you choose to use that as proof ROTFLMAO!!! Mel is talking about people like you in this song, maybe thats why you dont like it.... Were you in fact "conceived in the back of a Jag or a Suv" LOL.
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Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 Its a video of 2Pac saying it himself. Get over yourself dude. U lost. U don't know shit about Pac. U can admit it. I have honestly never seen someone claiming to be a Pac fan and not even knowing what thug life is. "Tupac explains thug life" U need another one? He says it in that video. People are quick to dismiss others when they are proved wrong. I also like you changing the subject. Nice job D bag. U have managed to be a tool and an idiot.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 An 18 second clip where Pac says what Thug Life "stands for". I wonder why they only show those 18 seconds ? What does he say in the rest of the clip. Heres the truth for you, just because you are born without doesnt give you the rught to go out and live out THUG LIFE. Can you comprehend that ? Pac did it. Pac glamorized it. Pac led impressionable people down the THUG LIFE path. Finally Pac died the way a THUG dies. Mel on the other hand told people about it and to stay away from it !
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 Last, but not least, I NEVER claimed to be a Pac fan !!!! Most that listend to Pac thought they too could live the THUG LIFE. Succers like you buy that acronym bullshit. Funny the only place I've ever seen it has now been on 18 second clip on YOUTUBE. I guess if someone pulls out a 18 second video of him saying not to not smoke weed, you would buy that to lol.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@Bootlegger718 If ur not a Pac fan then y r u arguing about a fact that you are obviously wrong about. U have to know ur wrong at this point. just get over it. U can listen to Melle Mel. I'll keep listening to rappers with talent. Just don't act like you know what your talking about when you obviously don't know anything about 2Pac. And claiming that you saw him live (which u probably didn't) will obviously lead people to believe ur a fan.
camgan1 1 year ago
@camgan1 What exactly am I wrong about ? That he never said that silly ass acronym shit ? What was the question before he said that ? Who was asking the question ? If I ask the President what else can U.S.A, stand for and he comes up with something else and then I post it on youtube leaving out the question, what would it sound like ? Nor did I hear Pac say "this is the only thing thug life means". While you study Thug life on the net, I LIVED IT ! I nkow what Pac was saying.
Bootlegger718 1 year ago
@camgan1 If THUG LIFE was in fact an acronym and ONLY THAT, why isnt there and periods between the letters on his stomach you fool LOL ! If I have failed on this board it is only proving you are ignorant and do not have a clue about Hip Hop. I have failed because you did a better job of proving that fact than I ever could of !!!!!
Bootlegger718 1 year ago