Why would you not torture people to save innocent lives? Even if theres a chance that the guy doesn't actually know anything about whats going on, hes just gotta take one for the team.
I am a huge 24 fan I love Jack Bauer but he is a FICTIONAL tv character , Everything you see on the show is fake . Furthermore , Torture has been pretty much proven to be an unreliable means of getting crediable intel even Kiefer Sutherland is against Torture and spoke to a graduating class at West Point about the difference between what he does on the show and real life .
jack bauer is my idol!! I condone EVERYTHING that guy does. If there are real life jack bauers out there, this world will be a safer place. F all those who oppose it.
"MY GOD... THIS USED TO BE A COUNTRY WHERE WE COULD TORTURE AND HAVE SOME PRIDE IN IT!" lol I love these guys... And about Glenn Beck, I'm right there with you. He should be water-boarded everyday.
To all u that agree with torture. It is Illegal. You can not do it. If you agree then it should be ok for some one to break in your house and steal your stuff.. I mean theft is less illegal than torture? So you also in turn agree that John McCain should have been tortured along with all of our Vietnam vets? well fuck u and have respect for an issue u know nothing about!
Just remember that when you say that that the other poeple on the other side say well then they can do it... As a retired military man I wouldn't wnat to put our brave men and women in the military in harms way...
First off, it's very clear that your both gay with each other.
Second, Glenn is talking about torturing those who have info about terrorist plots, ect. I'm pretty sure, if someone has info about a terror plot against the US, we better be beating the fuckin bat crap out of them so we can save American lives. He's not talking about 13 year olds skinning cats and dogs, you idiots. You should do some of your own research before you are critical of someone as smart as Glenn Beck. Fuckin retards.
Here's a simple question for your simple-minded statement: How do we know BEFORE HAND who has the information and who doesn't? Why don't you do some reached before listening to the words of a fool like Glenn Beck who cites a FICTIONAL TV SHOW as his support for torture?
And ask yourself this -- has torturing ANYONE EVER resulted in the saving of any lives, or even in any 'actionable intelligence'? Cite some real world examples, though, not episodes of 24.
The truth is they know for a fact that they were torturing terrorists because they were captured fighting for Alcida so they are enemy war combatants not criminals and should be tortured for any info they have then just put down like the dogs they are. And no the Geneva Conventions Are not relevant because they only apply to the countries and or parties that signed them and they did not. Neither would they if asked to. Equal treatment, they get what they give.
This was classic bit today, watched many episodes of your show on Air America's website this past week & love the show (you are screwing up my diet now ha ha). So glad I'm not alone on hating Glen.
WOW! These two dip-sticks don't even appreciate freedom of speech (as they abuse it), much less the fact that they are alive and safe. Keep it up, communist slimes. Your ignorance educates us all.
Is it abuse if someone keeps you alive and safe from something you "seem" to defend (terrorism)? Continue to abuse speech, and we will ALL be silenced. Don't stick up for foreign combatants at war with us. What are you guys, Taliban? Do you think they extend their version of "Habeas Corpus" to us? They TORTURE then behead us Americans with great joy. BE VERY CAREFUL.
Who's defending terrorism? We're defending HUMAN RIGHTS. Your argument is for becoming just like those who'd take innocent lives - is that the answer? To BECOME terrorists ourselves? Doesn't seem to work for them, does it?
And just like "cinfan944" - can you show anywhere that, leaving the morality aside, any torture has ever produced anything actually keeping anyone 'safe'? Coming out as pro-torture just grows more terrorists who feel justified in attacking innocents since 'we do it'.
I don't believe that ANYONE in America is "pro-torture", including the Bush admin, and for the reasons you have wisely cited. Is sleep deprivation torture? NO. Is solitary confinement torture? NO. Is "water-boarding" torture? Maybe, it depends on individual opinion. While I'm "undecided" on as much, it's kept us safe. That's why you have a voice today!
HUMAN RIGHTS? I'm TOTALLY for it, barring one trying to destroy a whole COUNTRY. Keep perspective.
Of course there are Americans who are "pro-torture," you're one of them. US Law states unequivocally that waterboarding is torture. Yet here's you saying, "Well, it's a matter of opinion, but we should certainly keep doing it."
There is no opinion. There are only people who condemn all forms of torture, and there are the quibblers, people like you, who try to raise questions & continue the practice.
If you're defending torture, you don't belong in America. Go to Russia or China.
Maybe we should play "rock, scissors, paper" with torturers, terrorists, and their ilk. Do you think they'd play fair as they REALLY torture and behead our diplomats and journalists? IS "water-boarding" torture? Afterall, they live (OBVIOUSLY!) and are set free to kill us yet again.
YOU should go to Russia or China and recognize what "torture" really is. Being you have no frame of reference with which to speak, I assume you are liberal. What know YOU of "torture"? STFU, lib.
You guys get mad at bringing up Clinton. But every time Obama makes a mistake these next four years you guys are gonna go "b bu bu BUSH" and blame everything on him.
So you guys cant really complain when you know you guys will do it too
Except that Bush HAS done the worst job as a president for most Americans that he could have done: two unjust bankrupting wars, domestic surveillance and an expansion of presidential powers that would make Nixon blush, not to mention presiding over the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression these are not debatable facts, they occurred. So yeah, Obama is going to have to be looking at a lot of B-b-b-b-b-bush screw ups for the next 4 years, and the American people will be for much longer
The Geneva Convention defines torture, and so does the Military Code of Justice. Its only the Orwellian nature of our current media-soaked political system that allows someone like you to even THINK that 'torture' is a debatable concept. So nice effort. At least you got to use the word 'cunt' on the internet!
And Bush has made us LESS safe by fanning the flames of mid-east terror with his imperialistic policies - Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Gaza is creating more terrorists every minute. Ask the Department of Homeland Security, they'll tell you.
Why would you not torture people to save innocent lives? Even if theres a chance that the guy doesn't actually know anything about whats going on, hes just gotta take one for the team.
semonin3 1 year ago
Have you guys kissed?
semonin3 1 year ago
I am a huge 24 fan I love Jack Bauer but he is a FICTIONAL tv character , Everything you see on the show is fake . Furthermore , Torture has been pretty much proven to be an unreliable means of getting crediable intel even Kiefer Sutherland is against Torture and spoke to a graduating class at West Point about the difference between what he does on the show and real life .
badreligion1231 1 year ago
jack bauer is my idol!! I condone EVERYTHING that guy does. If there are real life jack bauers out there, this world will be a safer place. F all those who oppose it.
sleepiexme 1 year ago
"MY GOD... THIS USED TO BE A COUNTRY WHERE WE COULD TORTURE AND HAVE SOME PRIDE IN IT!" lol I love these guys... And about Glenn Beck, I'm right there with you. He should be water-boarded everyday.
RamsesTheGreater 1 year ago
U MAD?
xXsecretxXBW 1 year ago
Ok .
1. Torture is wrong and does not provide credible intelligence .
2. 24 is a fictional tv show and has no influence on anything
3. You two are fags that need to get a real life .
You wanna do something useful how about going after real human rights violations rather than ficitonal ones on tv assholes .
badreligion1231 1 year ago
Damn...I just watched these two Meat Smokers...how fucking sad can they be??? They both know a "dick aint square"!!! Fucking queers.
TheRealLicahoe 1 year ago
100 bucks those two have sucked a dick or two in their lives. Left wing cock sucking queers.
TheRealLicahoe 1 year ago
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24 almost over. argghh! Just saw it online at lastnightstvshows (.) com
alertpan501 1 year ago
when your BOSS makes a mistake does he apologies to you or anybody else
i don't think so.
these government see them self above
the public people .
luckyjamal 2 years ago
To all u that agree with torture. It is Illegal. You can not do it. If you agree then it should be ok for some one to break in your house and steal your stuff.. I mean theft is less illegal than torture? So you also in turn agree that John McCain should have been tortured along with all of our Vietnam vets? well fuck u and have respect for an issue u know nothing about!
smkydwg 2 years ago
Had me a knife and I'd cut the fingers and toes off all those terrorists if it meant saving the life of even one American soldier.
thatkrazyguyukno 2 years ago
Actually MSNBC has been saying enough long be for Beck
usapegasus007 2 years ago
If torture saves even one life isn't it our duty to save that life?
gocubs033 3 years ago
Just remember that when you say that that the other poeple on the other side say well then they can do it... As a retired military man I wouldn't wnat to put our brave men and women in the military in harms way...
No one has ever said "This is what we stopped."
usapegasus007 2 years ago 2
If you avoid even one logical fallacy by not posting, isn't it your duty to not post? Torture does not work, period.
newmanfrigan 2 years ago
I bet you guys support abortion
mabrown65 3 years ago
wow just wow
FTWINZOR 3 years ago
I bet you supported murdering real, actual children who got in the way of Bush's war machine. Fucking fetus fetishist.
newmanfrigan 2 years ago
First off, it's very clear that your both gay with each other.
Second, Glenn is talking about torturing those who have info about terrorist plots, ect. I'm pretty sure, if someone has info about a terror plot against the US, we better be beating the fuckin bat crap out of them so we can save American lives. He's not talking about 13 year olds skinning cats and dogs, you idiots. You should do some of your own research before you are critical of someone as smart as Glenn Beck. Fuckin retards.
cinfan944 3 years ago
Here's a simple question for your simple-minded statement: How do we know BEFORE HAND who has the information and who doesn't? Why don't you do some reached before listening to the words of a fool like Glenn Beck who cites a FICTIONAL TV SHOW as his support for torture?
And ask yourself this -- has torturing ANYONE EVER resulted in the saving of any lives, or even in any 'actionable intelligence'? Cite some real world examples, though, not episodes of 24.
breakroomlive 3 years ago
The truth is they know for a fact that they were torturing terrorists because they were captured fighting for Alcida so they are enemy war combatants not criminals and should be tortured for any info they have then just put down like the dogs they are. And no the Geneva Conventions Are not relevant because they only apply to the countries and or parties that signed them and they did not. Neither would they if asked to. Equal treatment, they get what they give.
spartencamp 2 years ago
@cinfan944
Smart as Glenn Beck?
LOL!!!!
PincheMorrongo 1 year ago
This was classic bit today, watched many episodes of your show on Air America's website this past week & love the show (you are screwing up my diet now ha ha). So glad I'm not alone on hating Glen.
chomskyfan 3 years ago
Go breakroomlive!! All these weirdos can do is call people trite
names and attack you personally. So sad. I shall await being flamed by these psychos....
CrissySt 3 years ago
Oops! Now I'm name calling.... I still stand by the rest of my statement.
CrissySt 3 years ago
WOW! These two dip-sticks don't even appreciate freedom of speech (as they abuse it), much less the fact that they are alive and safe. Keep it up, communist slimes. Your ignorance educates us all.
rigelspikes 3 years ago
I'm sorry, I thought that was USING freedom of speech - is it abuse if someone says something you can't face?
breakroomlive 3 years ago
Is it abuse if someone keeps you alive and safe from something you "seem" to defend (terrorism)? Continue to abuse speech, and we will ALL be silenced. Don't stick up for foreign combatants at war with us. What are you guys, Taliban? Do you think they extend their version of "Habeas Corpus" to us? They TORTURE then behead us Americans with great joy. BE VERY CAREFUL.
rigelspikes 3 years ago
Who's defending terrorism? We're defending HUMAN RIGHTS. Your argument is for becoming just like those who'd take innocent lives - is that the answer? To BECOME terrorists ourselves? Doesn't seem to work for them, does it?
And just like "cinfan944" - can you show anywhere that, leaving the morality aside, any torture has ever produced anything actually keeping anyone 'safe'? Coming out as pro-torture just grows more terrorists who feel justified in attacking innocents since 'we do it'.
breakroomlive 3 years ago
I don't believe that ANYONE in America is "pro-torture", including the Bush admin, and for the reasons you have wisely cited. Is sleep deprivation torture? NO. Is solitary confinement torture? NO. Is "water-boarding" torture? Maybe, it depends on individual opinion. While I'm "undecided" on as much, it's kept us safe. That's why you have a voice today!
HUMAN RIGHTS? I'm TOTALLY for it, barring one trying to destroy a whole COUNTRY. Keep perspective.
rigelspikes 3 years ago
Of course there are Americans who are "pro-torture," you're one of them. US Law states unequivocally that waterboarding is torture. Yet here's you saying, "Well, it's a matter of opinion, but we should certainly keep doing it."
There is no opinion. There are only people who condemn all forms of torture, and there are the quibblers, people like you, who try to raise questions & continue the practice.
If you're defending torture, you don't belong in America. Go to Russia or China.
DonGenarosDog 3 years ago
Maybe we should play "rock, scissors, paper" with torturers, terrorists, and their ilk. Do you think they'd play fair as they REALLY torture and behead our diplomats and journalists? IS "water-boarding" torture? Afterall, they live (OBVIOUSLY!) and are set free to kill us yet again.
YOU should go to Russia or China and recognize what "torture" really is. Being you have no frame of reference with which to speak, I assume you are liberal. What know YOU of "torture"? STFU, lib.
rigelspikes 3 years ago
You guys get mad at bringing up Clinton. But every time Obama makes a mistake these next four years you guys are gonna go "b bu bu BUSH" and blame everything on him.
So you guys cant really complain when you know you guys will do it too
xcef2005 3 years ago
Except that Bush HAS done the worst job as a president for most Americans that he could have done: two unjust bankrupting wars, domestic surveillance and an expansion of presidential powers that would make Nixon blush, not to mention presiding over the worst economic crisis since the Great Depression these are not debatable facts, they occurred. So yeah, Obama is going to have to be looking at a lot of B-b-b-b-b-bush screw ups for the next 4 years, and the American people will be for much longer
breakroomlive 3 years ago
you two sons-of-bitches really take the cake!
fuckin liberal bastards define "torture" and then go after Bush for "torturing". news for you jerks, Bush kept your cunts safe!!
genie0390 3 years ago
The Geneva Convention defines torture, and so does the Military Code of Justice. Its only the Orwellian nature of our current media-soaked political system that allows someone like you to even THINK that 'torture' is a debatable concept. So nice effort. At least you got to use the word 'cunt' on the internet!
breakroomlive 3 years ago
And Bush has made us LESS safe by fanning the flames of mid-east terror with his imperialistic policies - Iraq, Afghanistan, and now Gaza is creating more terrorists every minute. Ask the Department of Homeland Security, they'll tell you.
breakroomlive 3 years ago