@WSWarthog How could anyone listen to him without being distracted by him touching his face every two seconds, pulling at his shirt, and sounding like a dog eating when he speaks?
@PtAltmVansanTarr i fail to see how him being from Yugoslavia means he isn't a sufferer of turrets.. as if turrets only exists in ukraine... and as if torture and oppression are the only ingredients that can give a person turrets - that other factors especially including genetics doesnt play a role? ... as i clearly stated in my original post. i know turrets when i see it and this guy doesn't just nod his head or smack his lips - he is a full blown turrets sufferer with several different ticks.
@yuryf I'm absolutely not trying to undermine you, and would have wanted this correction had I been the errorous one: the neuropsycological condition you are talking about is spelled Tourette('s syndrome).
@yuryf He is suffering Turrets syndrome only cause HE chose to. Besides, that is completely irrelevant. He makes points. He harvests thoughts. Socrates reborn.
zizek is not a coke fiend, he is a survivor of eastern european communist oppresion. i'm from ukraine originally, now living in canada. i know a lot of people from east europe that developed serious ticks and stuttters as a way of dealing with some of the horrors they had to deal with growing up. give him a break.
@yuryf Yugoslavia was a socialist state, not an oppressive communist one like the Soviet Union. It wasn't a member of the Warsaw Pact and wasn't allied with Soviet Communism, and developed its own form of socialism which focused on social corporatism. All companies were run by workers and the economy wasn't centrally-planned; as such, Yugoslavia had one of the highest living standards in Europe, despite being "commie".
@yuryf To continue on from my first post (I ran out of room), Žižek comes from Slovenia, which was the most well-off republic within Yugoslavia. Despite having 1/13th of Yugoslavia's total population, it managed to produce 1/5th of Yugoslavia's GDP due to the republic being the only one during the socialist reign to border a capitalist country (Austria), which allowed for more concentrated market development from Yugoslav companies, especially in technology and banking.
@michaelchristopherj i would think to call him a neo-marxist since i have personally seen videos of him rejecting certain ideologies of marx... and he is very anti-communism, as he said himself "that was a social, economic, etc, catastrophe" and he is right
But it is very well anti-semitism not to apply exactly the same (!) standards of human rights to ALL other Arab, respectively muslim countries as to Israel.
It is anti-semitism to single out Israel when critisizing human rights and not to care about the way f.i. Christians or other minority groups are treated in countries with muslim majorities.
Beautifully said..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: At some point we in the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it dearly
Beautifully said..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: We at some point the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it"
Beautifully said..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: We at some point in the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it"
Thats right.. Zizek says it plainly..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: At some point we in the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it dearly..with out that understanding we begin to think of fundamentalism as an inevitablity in the region which allows us to justify support of oppression and despotism(the second inevitablity of the region)
@Kaslaka Yes, but try not to generalize or paint an entire group with the words or actions of a few. That inclination is what we all need to fight against. Yes, there are some Jews who will make those accusations regardless of what the critic is saying. But they are the minority and should be ignored or argued with. There is no need to defend against these accusations. It's like being called a pedophile. Absent proof that you are - why bother defending yourself against a baseless accusation?
@slickvguy you might be surprised how well-represented the 'minority' of Israel-defenders who are comfortable using terms like savage and nazi are around the world at peaceful protests, lectures, speaking tours, arab student clubs, and everything you can imagine. The presence of this 'minority' in bureaucracies around the world has a strong ability to make its hateful paranoia a virtual reality for millions who hear their message. e.g. My university's palastinian students club has been shut down
@tyrannicoystercult Not sure what point you're trying to make, but suffice to say I've seen a lot of ugly things from any and all "sides" of this complex issue. Very little (if anything) would surprise me. Too few are willing to see and understand viewpoints other than their own. Thus, they are pushing an agenda rather than seeking truth. I try to keep an open mind and listen carefully. I do not adhere to one set of beliefs. Even my being an atheist (born) Jew is somewhat of a paradox.
@slickvguy my point is just towards the truth, since you wrote on minorities and anecdotal evidence etc and that type of defense, in the way i see things, is for many people a way of dismissing the growing truth. whether it is repressing or lack of reading or whatever viewpoint that makes you say it, i don't know, just I think that those logics aren't the best type of rebuttal the way many brutal facts of the apartheid stand. I'm sure we'd have a better understanding of our viewpoints in person.
@slickvguy ah sorry i mixed topics a little -on the way the defense of israel is organized, it is actually very homogenous in many areas; the official message and official replies to criticism are distributed to press and jewish leaders in cities all over north america and you see the poisonous 'dialog' occur with very little variation. Anti-semitism and whatnot is entirely a programmatic reply by the state's press and propaganda office. the 'sides' of this are more mechanical than you allude.
As a Jew, I have no problem that Zizek points out these things. His disclaimers (e.g. that he doesn't ascribe to ideas like the Israelis are like nazis) makes him that much more credible. The problem is that far too often, anti-Israel sentiment is used as a mask for anti-semitism, while many who make anti-Israeli statements (who are not anti-semitic) wrongfully whine about being accused as anti-semites when coming out against Israel. Both exist at the same time.
@slickvguy The thing is that many Zionists/Israel supporters regard any and every criticism of Israel as being anti-semitism. They'll even go as far as calling Jewish critics of Israel, "self-hating Jews."
When the fact is that anti-semitism, aka real anti-semitism, is when Jews are generalized / all Jews are put into the same boat. Examples include: the Jews are the oppressors of the Arabs, Jews run the world, Jewish conspiracies,etc. When more Jews actually live outside of Israel than in it.
@andyx1205 Not sure if it's "many" or "some" (Jews/gentiles) who would regard criticism of Israel as anti-semitic, but that should not matter to the critics! Even in this video, Zizek is careful to add a disclaimer to his opinons. Unnecessary. We can't control what others think. Rational criticism must stand on its own. e.g. Someone can call me a "racist" for an opinion about blacks. But I won't whine about it. I'm a Jew, I support Israel, I have no problem with criticism of Israel.
@slickvguy I won't ask you on why you support Israel but I will say that you are not in the majority, in that most defenders of Israel oppose any and every criticism of Israel.
The thing is that there are a lot of Israeli Jews especially that are very anti-Arab and call them names such as "savages" while on the other side there is a lot of real anti-semitism amongst some Arab nations. When these two clash, there is little room for intellectual engagement and discussion.
@andyx1205 When I say that I support Israel (a bit of a stupid term, actually), what I basically mean is that I support their right to exist and to defend themselves. Also, I don't think you could possibly know what the majority or minority think, so you're projecting your beliefs - which may or not actually be the reality. Please be careful with that. It might seem or feel like "most", but I doubt you have data to back that up. Anecdotal evidence. Amen to the 2nd part.
@slickvguy much evidence about the palastine and especially gaza state is not limited to being 'anecdotal' since it has been vigorously reported on and tested by human rights groups from around the world, just as Zizek says, not by over-imaginative left-ideologues. Evidence about systematic conditions and the clearly observed lack of will to carry out the law equally by israeli bureacrats is the problem. You might look into racial disparity in processing time of applications for building permits
@andyx1205 Part2: However, I am free to judge a critic or criticism of Israel of being anti-semitic. I see both sides. Critics need not justify their opinions or fight real or imaginary anti-semitic accusations. They need only explain clearly and argue/defend their positions. Knee-jerk or unfounded accusations of anti-semitism should be ignored. I've never been called a "self-hating Jew" for my opinions, though some Jews have a big problem w/ my pointing out troubling things that Israel does.
One example is the PM of Iran and Israel. Ahmadinejad has had some very questionable remarks regarding the Holocaust (though some Jews/Christians exploit the Holocaust/past Jewish suffering, the historical event of the Holocaust is a fact and thus Ahmadinejad is a fool for questioning it).
On the other hand, Netanyahu has compared Ahmadinejad to Hitler and Iran to Nazi Germany, which is just sad, especially since his ancestors suffered under the REAL Nazis.
@andyx1205 Well, at first glance, that seems pretty silly, except in this context: if Ahmadinejad is committed to wiping out Jews in Israel (and/or Jews elsewhere), then that is genocide, and certainly comparisons to Hitler are appropriate. Aside from a few Western media headlines/articles (which I put very little faith in), I confess to not knowing what Ahmadinejad really believes or wants. He's always struck me as an unserious, attention-seeking buffoon.
@slickvguy ahmadinejad's motive is (theoretically) clearly discernable in a populist/brokerage paradigm when you consider the mass and high pitch of conspiracy theory and anti-israel sentiment in the arab world. He does not openly support genocide, same way western leaders don't openly support improving the lives of the poor -it's beyond the means of the state and (more importantly) it tests/ends the fantasy that sustains their platform. vague dream politics makes their leadership efficient.
Israel is not the new Nazis they were the original seeds of Nazism with the deliberate Machiavellian goal of destabilization all Banking systems and use Israel as Jewish state as a cover!
Israel is not the new Nazis they were the original seeds of Nazism with the deliberate Machiavellian goal of destabilization all Banking systems and use Israel as Jweish state as a cover!
The fact that the so-called 'developed' and 'democratic' West allows this form of colonialism to occur is an outrage. And well done to Zizek for speaking out about it.
My source is the New York Times...schhhhhhh,again, my source isch the New York Times, schhhhhhh- Mr. Zizek , you are brilliant as well as entertaining!
Zizek is right to challenge Levy on this, but he's abnormally self-conscious and equivocal in doing so. Levy is a flake, but he's familiar with the scholarship on Israel-Palestine and is well aware of the facts Zizek is nervously pointing to. He should be called out for callously ignoring the brutalities foisted upon the Palestinians, not for being ignorant about them.
@meshzzizk You dont see it do you? Hes not ignoring them he is saying what is truly wrong. Mechanism through birocracy creates good genocide conditions an that must be stopped. What is hapening to Palestinians is clearly wrong and being from ex yugoslavia he knows better than just to call Israelians out as murderous thugs couse deep down we can all be murederous thugs... believe me... and saying that would only comromise his argument. And yes the UN is americas little bitch.
israel criminal settlers need to get off Palestinian stolen land they murdered for and go back home to Poland, Germany and Hell, Zionist Terrorists of the Synagogue of Satan’s Chosen Ones.
Zizek is right that the world is paying a terrible price for playing Islamists against Marxism and its allies during the Cold War. However, he does not mention that the price of not doing so could have been greater. The Soviet Union (the largest country in the world, which also controlled half of Europe and much of the rest of the world) was a greater threat to peace and the West's security then than al-Qaeda is today. (Whether the calculus is the same for Hamas vs Fatah is another question).
Slajov Zizek fait beaucoup d'honneur à ce "philosophe" des média qui bernard-Henry Lévy en acceptant de discuter avec lui: cette honneur que lui a refusé plusieurs intellectuels comme pierre bourdieu.
Well if you want to be historically accurate. the Entirety of Israel is indeed a colonial/occupational entity.
However, many arabs recognize now that the only way forward is coexistence. I agree with you that Hamas does not subscribe to this idea. But many Palestinians do.
Israel uses Hamas and Hizbollah as an excuse to keep oppressing the Palestinians. If you look at many interviews of Israeli leaders, it is evident that they want Palestinians to somehow disappear or leave Palestine forever!
Well, look -- what we think of as settlements didn't start the 1967 war, or the wars before that. Substantial numbers of Palestinians and Arabs think that the entire state of Israel is a giant colonial state. As in: the whole of Israel is occupied. There's no recognition.
I tend to be sympathetic to Israel like Levy here, though I don't really like it. You're right that prospects for resolution are monopolized by extremist right-wing forces on both sides. I agree with that.
OK, I partly agree. Those settler extremists are causing a terrible mess. But I think you should consider whether Hamas/Hezbollah would stop fighting if the settlers go away. For the matter I think the settlers are mostly religious fanatics, but I think it's a mask over the underlying issue, which is whether most Arabs are willing or not to coexist with Jewish nationalism. I haven't seen any evidence that they are willing. So I think we should take them at their word with this smash Jews stuff.
the key point is not to say that the other is the fundamental problem, but to take action for justice. this exact excuse is what allows the israeli govt to continue its colonialist policies. many of the arabs are very problematic, but that does not mean you should label them the "fundamental" problem and give up.
in any case, it is absolutely true that the arabs are far weaker than israel. israel has control of the situation, the palestinians do not.
Hamas/Hezbollah might not stop fighting if the settlers go away. But ending the occupation and removing the settlers - or coming to a just agreement which allows settlers to stay as part of a sovereign Palestinian state - will remove the support for the violence which Hamas/Hezbollah perpetuate. Once the average Palestinian feels safe in their own home as part of a sovereign country you will see a marked decline in violence as the majority of people will be satisfied.
Are you crazy? Have you ever seen the behavior of these jewish settlers? They're outrageous. No sound minded palestinian would want them to be a part of a future palestinian state. Besides the settlers are living illegally on palestinian land. They must return to israel.
You assert that "most Arabs" are not willing to coexist with Jewish nationalism. Well, Israel has a population which is roughly 20% Arab (though they are victims of institutional racism). And didn't Egypt make peace with Israel?
Also, in holding up "Jewish nationalism" as the ideal for Israel, you are simultaneously smashing the myth that Israel is "the only democracy in the Middle East". A democracy is surely secular? Israel is, apparently, "Jewish". You can't have it both ways.
You also fail to mention that Israeli settlers chant "death to Arabs" in the same manner you describe with hamas. settlers don't kill only because that is left to their soldiers who do it without being called terrorists.
What I'm saying is Bigots and right wing extremists exist on both sides. That shouldn't undermine the tragedy beset upon the palestinian or lessen their cause.
You are falling victim to the biased news reporting that culminated in the GW Bush era.
And as much as I disagree with the Israeli occupation and Israeli policies, and as much as I agree that people living under illegal occupation have the right and obligation to resist (with armed force if necessary), the nature of Hamas and Hezbollah are far beyond any resistance I could ever support. They are incredibly anti-Semitic, incredibly violent, narcissistic, conspiracy theorist and downright fascistic forces dedicated not only to the destruction of Israel, but to Jews.
The last bit is going to piss people off but it has to be said. That's really how Hamas and Hezbollah are. Hez, for instance, have rallies where they chant "death to Jews" under a banner depicting a mushroom cloud. They believe in all sorts of conspiracies about how "Zionists" secretly rule the world and so on.
It's very sad. Perhaps if Israel pulls back that will moderate them, but ultimately the Arabs have to learn to live with an Israeli state. They have to recognize it.
Zizek, I think, is basically correct about the nature of Israeli oppression of Palestinians. But Zizek also points out that the leftist comparison with Nazi Germany is simply false. Be very careful with saying things like the Jews are the new Nazis, Israel is a racist bigoted regime, the same kind of regime the Jews ran away from, etc. etc. etc.
It's simply a false comparison. The nature of the Nazi regime was far different than a militaristic, but fundamentally liberal and democratic Israel.
As an addendum -- again, it makes no historical sense except as a way to beat up the Jews with their own history. These so-called leftists say: ah, you Jews have internalized the suffering of the Holocaust, you're now taking it out on Palestine and so on and so on.
All I can say about this is that its ignorant, idiotic or demagogic.
I don't always agree with Zizek. but I definitely agree with him on this one. The Palestinian suffering is extreme and tragic. Israel needs to come to its senses. It has become the racist bigoted regime it ran away from.
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Zizek is an interesting writer, but I think he's out of touch on Israel - he doesn't grasp the genuine security threats they face. I agree with Zizek, Israelis don't help themselves by having these stupid little laws. On the other hand, even if they behaved like angels, the world, or at least the arabs, would still hate them, and they'd have all the same security problems, which are rooted in an Islamist ideology indifferent to real greviences (which might, nonetheless, still exist)
Again, I'm a fan of Zizek, and agree the Palestinians have legitimate complaints (which are, however, usually much exaggerated for ideological purposes), but ideology over-determines Palestinian terrorism.
And it has produced the inaccuracies of their mostly inaccurate nativist narrative. If the palestinians dropped their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace. If they dropped their narrative there would be peace.
First of all the label "terrorism" has such a strong negative semantic attached. It's a propagandalabel to distinguish the "righteous" killing of civilians, from the "evil" killing of civilians. I think Zizek doesn't focus on the historical context. The israeli state is based on a colonial ground. I can go on and on why Hamas and Hezbollah are the righteous in the conflict. But i think people like Finkelstein, Chomsky and Chossudovsky would be more appropriate as a source.
Without downtalking the gruesomeness of the Holocaust, it's a fact that zionists have the means to extensively show their suffering. Much more than for ex. millions of Africans that perish every year from the globalised world.
SZ was great inthis and made BHL look like a hypocritical fool!!
BHL really cares about women lol while killing them, maiming their children, supporting blockades on food and medicine. Some love for women. BHL even supported sanctions on Iraq that caused the death of 500000 children under 12 yrs old in only 4 yrs( 92-96).
What a sick joke that bhl stands for anyone that isn't Jewish..lol
btw "Violence" SZ's new book is VERY good.....READ IT!!!
Jeff Fisher's Peace Plan for the Children of the Book.
Jeff loves all & that means Palestine will come to Nationhood before March 17th 2009 with Al Gore & Cynthia Ann McKinney leading the way restoring America also,
Mr. Obama is really born in Kenya, not Hawaii. Spread this everywhere to break the Zionistic Controlled media Forever.
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An American Pure Christian Patriot Jeff BootStraps Jante Degaul. whizkid1983-1986 Melchizedec Fisher
Jeff Fisher's Peace Plan for the Children of the Book.
Jeff loves all & that means Palestine will come to Nationhood before March 17th 2009 with Al Gore & Cynthia Ann McKinney leading the way restoring America also,
Mr. Obama is really born in Kenya, not Hawaii. Spread this everywhere to break the Zionistic Controlled media Forever.
Signed,
An American Pure Christian Patriot Jeff BootStraps Jante Degaul. whizkid1983-1986 Melchizedec Fisher
Henri-Levy had to leave his earlier diluted Leftism,now he can wear silk shirts and spew hypocrisy; he loves it; he gets the best of both worlds, he can pretend to care for the impoverished,but would like the Israeli Generals to give him options to buy stock in military corporations for free;
I am very much awake, it is the rest of the world that is blind to the fact that the only murderers and terrorists are so-called Palestinians that breed their children to hate, take innocent lives by immolating themselves in public places, and launch rockets into Jewish homes on a daily basis , you scum-sucking pool of anti-semite urine
there is no way you are awake...there are no right and wrongs in killing....its just evil, and the world is against zionists like you....when you are being told by so many that israel is in the wrong its time to rethink whats in your head....
You are pathetic. I have an undying love for the Jewish people, and for Israel, the homeland of my people. You can continue hating and railing against Israel all you want. We will endure long after everything you and your beloved Palestinian terror groups represent has crumbled into the dust.
Yes, I am sure G-d really despises me for having love for Israel and my people. Actually in the bible, it says that "one who curses Israel curses G-d". So perhaps it is you who has fallen out of favor with the Creator
"There are no right and wrongs in killing". Of course you would believe that, wouldn't you. Any killing is justified, no matter how senseless or whatever the cost. "Its just evil." You tell me which is more "evil": when Israel strikes at Hamas targets as a means of defending itself from incessant terrorist attacks: or when a self-proclaimed martyr walks into a marketplace and obliterates himself, taking hundreds of lives with him. If you have trouble answering that, you are truly disturbed
Israel has once again began "Defending itself" by launching airstrikes killing more chidren after a rocket was fired. The israeli govt said noone was injured or killed but their airstrike has so far killed 14...6 were children....if you believe your god wants that then you need serious help....
If you think there is any comparison between six children being accidentally killed in an attempt to destroy terrorists and hundreds of children being targeted deliberately by Palestinian suicide bombers, then YOU are the one who needs help
im not going to bother with this anymore....i know what you are.....the world has seen what israel has done and shouting to hide your guilt will no longer work.
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"Post marxist sociologist", id est:
He was wrong all his life and keeps on being wrong today (and having a more broken English than mine even though when I was working he was pretending to study).
Tell me where defend a creation of a Palestinian State are callfor destruction of Israel and USA ( Not American,, becouse I'm american - Brasil - and I don't receive any airplane).
Why did you Say Muslims? The religios intolerance are yours. What USA do and is critisize by the Palestins are not atribuied to a Cristian Civilization. I've never seen any Palestinian Word against Brasil, Portugal, Argentina, Chile, etc etc..
If it'll stop them from ending their lives with a round of explosives strapped to their waist, then yes. And I have little doubt YOU are ready to do the same and worse to Jewish Israeli children, you delusional hypocritical fuck
if i was put into the situation the palestinians are in...yes, sure in fact i wouldnt have a choice, its better to die trying to liberate your people than to live in slavery.....
You have been brainwashed by the liberal media. Tell me how the Palestinians are enslaved. They are nothing more than a race of violent arabs that have grown fat and prosperous on Jewish suffering. It seems like you have closed your mind to the Jewish men women and children who are being murdered constantly from suicide bombings and rocket attacks from terror groups supported by these people
Are YOU ready to launch Quassam rockets into civilian territories or walk into a marketplace with a bomb strapped to your waste to end the lives of Jewish women and children, er, I mean "vile Zionist occupiers"
isn't it funny, sad and scary that we CAN NOT say event obvious things about jewish people in public without being called 'anti-semites'?
what a good excuse they do have..
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TheServiceWeb 6 months ago
Zizek, you are the best.. a great man with a great mind. On the other side, Bernard Henry Levi is a low life zionist with no values.
bisopali 6 months ago
Zizek is realy one of the best modern philosophers - no matter if you like his opinions or not.
TheHenni95 6 months ago
he always makes a lot of the exact same points as Chomsky, just more lively
oihhow 7 months ago
BHL is such an asshole.
dudgag77 7 months ago
fuck BHL
Zatzzo 7 months ago
Slavoj is brilliant.
jcptexas9 7 months ago
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ProvocativeDoctor 7 months ago
It's absolutely necessary for all decent human beings to rise their voice over racism, humiliation, poverty and war. Even those been Jews.
Elect2 8 months ago
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The so called "Palestinians" of today
do not represent a nation or people,
merely a bunch of Wannabe-Nazis.
Their ideology despises both,
the Land of Israel and the People of Israel.
Palestinians are trying to delegitimize, to demonize and to destroy Israel.
ThePrideOfIsrael 9 months ago
You can see the guy he's speaking to just nodding and listening. More people should spend a little time listening to Zizek.
WSWarthog 11 months ago
@WSWarthog How could anyone listen to him without being distracted by him touching his face every two seconds, pulling at his shirt, and sounding like a dog eating when he speaks?
softskullbubblebrain 10 months ago
@softskullbubblebrain
That's not what's important, the ideas are what is important.
WSWarthog 10 months ago
ŽiŽek is right.
bhalkaida 11 months ago
@yuryf I'm sorry the Ukraine is so terrible, but Zizek isn't from your country
PtAltmVansanTarr 11 months ago
@PtAltmVansanTarr i fail to see how him being from Yugoslavia means he isn't a sufferer of turrets.. as if turrets only exists in ukraine... and as if torture and oppression are the only ingredients that can give a person turrets - that other factors especially including genetics doesnt play a role? ... as i clearly stated in my original post. i know turrets when i see it and this guy doesn't just nod his head or smack his lips - he is a full blown turrets sufferer with several different ticks.
yuryf 10 months ago
@yuryf I'm absolutely not trying to undermine you, and would have wanted this correction had I been the errorous one: the neuropsycological condition you are talking about is spelled Tourette('s syndrome).
FreeScience 9 months ago
@FreeScience yes you're right of course, thank you.
yuryf 7 months ago
@yuryf He is suffering Turrets syndrome only cause HE chose to. Besides, that is completely irrelevant. He makes points. He harvests thoughts. Socrates reborn.
raynorman 8 months ago 2
my second thing... Zizek is stupid... he should get his medicaments, very soon!
ZobaK1 11 months ago
mu second thing... Zizek is stupid...
ZobaK1 11 months ago
Why don't you show the answer of Bernard-Henri Lévy? are you afraid of hearing the truth?
Salamwamat 1 year ago
@Salamwamat because its a response to that video linked right below!!!ur stoopid for hunan
mynillywita9milli 10 months ago
zizek is not a coke fiend, he is a survivor of eastern european communist oppresion. i'm from ukraine originally, now living in canada. i know a lot of people from east europe that developed serious ticks and stuttters as a way of dealing with some of the horrors they had to deal with growing up. give him a break.
yuryf 1 year ago
@yuryf Yugoslavia was a socialist state, not an oppressive communist one like the Soviet Union. It wasn't a member of the Warsaw Pact and wasn't allied with Soviet Communism, and developed its own form of socialism which focused on social corporatism. All companies were run by workers and the economy wasn't centrally-planned; as such, Yugoslavia had one of the highest living standards in Europe, despite being "commie".
crvenazvezdastefan 1 year ago 2
@yuryf To continue on from my first post (I ran out of room), Žižek comes from Slovenia, which was the most well-off republic within Yugoslavia. Despite having 1/13th of Yugoslavia's total population, it managed to produce 1/5th of Yugoslavia's GDP due to the republic being the only one during the socialist reign to border a capitalist country (Austria), which allowed for more concentrated market development from Yugoslav companies, especially in technology and banking.
crvenazvezdastefan 1 year ago
@yuryf He is a marxist.
michaelchristopherj 10 months ago
@michaelchristopherj i would think to call him a neo-marxist since i have personally seen videos of him rejecting certain ideologies of marx... and he is very anti-communism, as he said himself "that was a social, economic, etc, catastrophe" and he is right
yuryf 10 months ago
It is not anti-semitism to critzisize Israel.
But it is very well anti-semitism not to apply exactly the same (!) standards of human rights to ALL other Arab, respectively muslim countries as to Israel.
It is anti-semitism to single out Israel when critisizing human rights and not to care about the way f.i. Christians or other minority groups are treated in countries with muslim majorities.
And this is what Zizek does.
karlmall 1 year ago
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Beautifully said..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: At some point we in the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it dearly
msoraimi 1 year ago
Beautifully said..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: We at some point the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it"
msoraimi 1 year ago 2
Beautifully said..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: We at some point in the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it"
msoraimi 1 year ago
This guy is into coke! Look at the way he's systematically touching his nose!
LongimanusShark 1 year ago
Why dont people like Zizek come out on TV more?
Checo384775 1 year ago
wth?shouldn't Levy have the right to answer Zizek's thoughts? it sould be in the video as well!
darubim 1 year ago
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darubim 1 year ago
what the fuck?
thats nice english!
but, nevertheless, Levy is right!
Zizek is crazy...
Zizek doesnt know the history... sorry.
ZobaK1 1 year ago
Zizeks elaboration of the palestinian situation in Living In The End Times is the beast i've read on the subject yet.
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ReBourneOps 1 year ago
The final point is devastatingly right and isn't made nearly enough. In fact, I've never heard anyone say it so succinctly before.
JohnMoseley 1 year ago
@JohnMoseley
Thats right.. Zizek says it plainly..I wish every discussion about afghanistan, al qaeda or "radical islam" started with this disclamer: At some point we in the west made the decision that Islamic fundamentalism was better than the secular left and we are all paying for it dearly..with out that understanding we begin to think of fundamentalism as an inevitablity in the region which allows us to justify support of oppression and despotism(the second inevitablity of the region)
msoraimi 1 year ago
lol ohmigod wut even is this??
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trippwonder 1 year ago
@Kaslaka Yes, but try not to generalize or paint an entire group with the words or actions of a few. That inclination is what we all need to fight against. Yes, there are some Jews who will make those accusations regardless of what the critic is saying. But they are the minority and should be ignored or argued with. There is no need to defend against these accusations. It's like being called a pedophile. Absent proof that you are - why bother defending yourself against a baseless accusation?
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy you might be surprised how well-represented the 'minority' of Israel-defenders who are comfortable using terms like savage and nazi are around the world at peaceful protests, lectures, speaking tours, arab student clubs, and everything you can imagine. The presence of this 'minority' in bureaucracies around the world has a strong ability to make its hateful paranoia a virtual reality for millions who hear their message. e.g. My university's palastinian students club has been shut down
tyrannicoystercult 1 year ago
@tyrannicoystercult Not sure what point you're trying to make, but suffice to say I've seen a lot of ugly things from any and all "sides" of this complex issue. Very little (if anything) would surprise me. Too few are willing to see and understand viewpoints other than their own. Thus, they are pushing an agenda rather than seeking truth. I try to keep an open mind and listen carefully. I do not adhere to one set of beliefs. Even my being an atheist (born) Jew is somewhat of a paradox.
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy my point is just towards the truth, since you wrote on minorities and anecdotal evidence etc and that type of defense, in the way i see things, is for many people a way of dismissing the growing truth. whether it is repressing or lack of reading or whatever viewpoint that makes you say it, i don't know, just I think that those logics aren't the best type of rebuttal the way many brutal facts of the apartheid stand. I'm sure we'd have a better understanding of our viewpoints in person.
tyrannicoystercult 1 year ago
@slickvguy ah sorry i mixed topics a little -on the way the defense of israel is organized, it is actually very homogenous in many areas; the official message and official replies to criticism are distributed to press and jewish leaders in cities all over north america and you see the poisonous 'dialog' occur with very little variation. Anti-semitism and whatnot is entirely a programmatic reply by the state's press and propaganda office. the 'sides' of this are more mechanical than you allude.
tyrannicoystercult 1 year ago
As a Jew, I have no problem that Zizek points out these things. His disclaimers (e.g. that he doesn't ascribe to ideas like the Israelis are like nazis) makes him that much more credible. The problem is that far too often, anti-Israel sentiment is used as a mask for anti-semitism, while many who make anti-Israeli statements (who are not anti-semitic) wrongfully whine about being accused as anti-semites when coming out against Israel. Both exist at the same time.
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy The thing is that many Zionists/Israel supporters regard any and every criticism of Israel as being anti-semitism. They'll even go as far as calling Jewish critics of Israel, "self-hating Jews."
When the fact is that anti-semitism, aka real anti-semitism, is when Jews are generalized / all Jews are put into the same boat. Examples include: the Jews are the oppressors of the Arabs, Jews run the world, Jewish conspiracies,etc. When more Jews actually live outside of Israel than in it.
andyx1205 1 year ago
@andyx1205 Not sure if it's "many" or "some" (Jews/gentiles) who would regard criticism of Israel as anti-semitic, but that should not matter to the critics! Even in this video, Zizek is careful to add a disclaimer to his opinons. Unnecessary. We can't control what others think. Rational criticism must stand on its own. e.g. Someone can call me a "racist" for an opinion about blacks. But I won't whine about it. I'm a Jew, I support Israel, I have no problem with criticism of Israel.
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy I won't ask you on why you support Israel but I will say that you are not in the majority, in that most defenders of Israel oppose any and every criticism of Israel.
The thing is that there are a lot of Israeli Jews especially that are very anti-Arab and call them names such as "savages" while on the other side there is a lot of real anti-semitism amongst some Arab nations. When these two clash, there is little room for intellectual engagement and discussion.
andyx1205 1 year ago
@andyx1205 When I say that I support Israel (a bit of a stupid term, actually), what I basically mean is that I support their right to exist and to defend themselves. Also, I don't think you could possibly know what the majority or minority think, so you're projecting your beliefs - which may or not actually be the reality. Please be careful with that. It might seem or feel like "most", but I doubt you have data to back that up. Anecdotal evidence. Amen to the 2nd part.
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy much evidence about the palastine and especially gaza state is not limited to being 'anecdotal' since it has been vigorously reported on and tested by human rights groups from around the world, just as Zizek says, not by over-imaginative left-ideologues. Evidence about systematic conditions and the clearly observed lack of will to carry out the law equally by israeli bureacrats is the problem. You might look into racial disparity in processing time of applications for building permits
tyrannicoystercult 1 year ago
@andyx1205 Part2: However, I am free to judge a critic or criticism of Israel of being anti-semitic. I see both sides. Critics need not justify their opinions or fight real or imaginary anti-semitic accusations. They need only explain clearly and argue/defend their positions. Knee-jerk or unfounded accusations of anti-semitism should be ignored. I've never been called a "self-hating Jew" for my opinions, though some Jews have a big problem w/ my pointing out troubling things that Israel does.
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy part 2:
One example is the PM of Iran and Israel. Ahmadinejad has had some very questionable remarks regarding the Holocaust (though some Jews/Christians exploit the Holocaust/past Jewish suffering, the historical event of the Holocaust is a fact and thus Ahmadinejad is a fool for questioning it).
On the other hand, Netanyahu has compared Ahmadinejad to Hitler and Iran to Nazi Germany, which is just sad, especially since his ancestors suffered under the REAL Nazis.
andyx1205 1 year ago
@andyx1205 Well, at first glance, that seems pretty silly, except in this context: if Ahmadinejad is committed to wiping out Jews in Israel (and/or Jews elsewhere), then that is genocide, and certainly comparisons to Hitler are appropriate. Aside from a few Western media headlines/articles (which I put very little faith in), I confess to not knowing what Ahmadinejad really believes or wants. He's always struck me as an unserious, attention-seeking buffoon.
slickvguy 1 year ago
@slickvguy ahmadinejad's motive is (theoretically) clearly discernable in a populist/brokerage paradigm when you consider the mass and high pitch of conspiracy theory and anti-israel sentiment in the arab world. He does not openly support genocide, same way western leaders don't openly support improving the lives of the poor -it's beyond the means of the state and (more importantly) it tests/ends the fantasy that sustains their platform. vague dream politics makes their leadership efficient.
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Israel is not the new Nazis they were the original seeds of Nazism with the deliberate Machiavellian goal of destabilization all Banking systems and use Israel as Jewish state as a cover!
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uuubeut 1 year ago
The fact that the so-called 'developed' and 'democratic' West allows this form of colonialism to occur is an outrage. And well done to Zizek for speaking out about it.
jimmypopalot 1 year ago 2
My source is the New York Times...schhhhhhh,again, my source isch the New York Times, schhhhhhh- Mr. Zizek , you are brilliant as well as entertaining!
esteban2284 1 year ago
Henri Levy is a cock sucker
aids2099 1 year ago
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"Henri Levy is a cock sucker"
I read that once on a New Jersey Turnpike rest stop bathroom wall.
bapyou 1 year ago
@aids2099 .....is that supposed to be an insult?
NioushaXD 1 year ago
Finaly somebody told them what they long need to hear
oddobojamujo 1 year ago 2
Zizek is right to challenge Levy on this, but he's abnormally self-conscious and equivocal in doing so. Levy is a flake, but he's familiar with the scholarship on Israel-Palestine and is well aware of the facts Zizek is nervously pointing to. He should be called out for callously ignoring the brutalities foisted upon the Palestinians, not for being ignorant about them.
meshzzizk 1 year ago 9
@meshzzizk You dont see it do you? Hes not ignoring them he is saying what is truly wrong. Mechanism through birocracy creates good genocide conditions an that must be stopped. What is hapening to Palestinians is clearly wrong and being from ex yugoslavia he knows better than just to call Israelians out as murderous thugs couse deep down we can all be murederous thugs... believe me... and saying that would only comromise his argument. And yes the UN is americas little bitch.
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israel criminal settlers need to get off Palestinian stolen land they murdered for and go back home to Poland, Germany and Hell, Zionist Terrorists of the Synagogue of Satan’s Chosen Ones.
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majikspell1 1 year ago
Zizek is right that the world is paying a terrible price for playing Islamists against Marxism and its allies during the Cold War. However, he does not mention that the price of not doing so could have been greater. The Soviet Union (the largest country in the world, which also controlled half of Europe and much of the rest of the world) was a greater threat to peace and the West's security then than al-Qaeda is today. (Whether the calculus is the same for Hamas vs Fatah is another question).
leostoltoy 1 year ago
subtitles are wrong
gregorsuro 1 year ago
Slajov Zizek fait beaucoup d'honneur à ce "philosophe" des média qui bernard-Henry Lévy en acceptant de discuter avec lui: cette honneur que lui a refusé plusieurs intellectuels comme pierre bourdieu.
isaacson21 1 year ago
kaka fora:)
zernestro 1 year ago
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LeopardFrogPilboxhat 2 years ago
Henry-Lévy is a world champion twat.
CaptainBluebear08 2 years ago 9
why?
AK410 2 years ago
Zizek is right, absolutely.
Ce ne vorrebbero.
m4rkgr1771 2 years ago 34
@m4rkgr1771 ce ne vorrebbero si!!
almarcarlcol 8 months ago
well I think Zizek said it best - as always
tilhon 2 years ago 41
Well if you want to be historically accurate. the Entirety of Israel is indeed a colonial/occupational entity.
However, many arabs recognize now that the only way forward is coexistence. I agree with you that Hamas does not subscribe to this idea. But many Palestinians do.
Israel uses Hamas and Hizbollah as an excuse to keep oppressing the Palestinians. If you look at many interviews of Israeli leaders, it is evident that they want Palestinians to somehow disappear or leave Palestine forever!
mabutaleb 2 years ago 7
Well, look -- what we think of as settlements didn't start the 1967 war, or the wars before that. Substantial numbers of Palestinians and Arabs think that the entire state of Israel is a giant colonial state. As in: the whole of Israel is occupied. There's no recognition.
I tend to be sympathetic to Israel like Levy here, though I don't really like it. You're right that prospects for resolution are monopolized by extremist right-wing forces on both sides. I agree with that.
vandeperck1 2 years ago
@vandeperck1
arabs dont see jews or judaism as a danger!
but israel is a state based on enslavement and discrimination and draws resentment far beyond any ocean!
Berialavrenti 2 years ago 5
OK, I partly agree. Those settler extremists are causing a terrible mess. But I think you should consider whether Hamas/Hezbollah would stop fighting if the settlers go away. For the matter I think the settlers are mostly religious fanatics, but I think it's a mask over the underlying issue, which is whether most Arabs are willing or not to coexist with Jewish nationalism. I haven't seen any evidence that they are willing. So I think we should take them at their word with this smash Jews stuff.
vandeperck1 2 years ago
the key point is not to say that the other is the fundamental problem, but to take action for justice. this exact excuse is what allows the israeli govt to continue its colonialist policies. many of the arabs are very problematic, but that does not mean you should label them the "fundamental" problem and give up.
in any case, it is absolutely true that the arabs are far weaker than israel. israel has control of the situation, the palestinians do not.
aghneyya 2 years ago
Hamas/Hezbollah might not stop fighting if the settlers go away. But ending the occupation and removing the settlers - or coming to a just agreement which allows settlers to stay as part of a sovereign Palestinian state - will remove the support for the violence which Hamas/Hezbollah perpetuate. Once the average Palestinian feels safe in their own home as part of a sovereign country you will see a marked decline in violence as the majority of people will be satisfied.
whypatcondellisntfun 2 years ago
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Are you crazy? Have you ever seen the behavior of these jewish settlers? They're outrageous. No sound minded palestinian would want them to be a part of a future palestinian state. Besides the settlers are living illegally on palestinian land. They must return to israel.
rencrow 2 years ago 2
You assert that "most Arabs" are not willing to coexist with Jewish nationalism. Well, Israel has a population which is roughly 20% Arab (though they are victims of institutional racism). And didn't Egypt make peace with Israel?
Also, in holding up "Jewish nationalism" as the ideal for Israel, you are simultaneously smashing the myth that Israel is "the only democracy in the Middle East". A democracy is surely secular? Israel is, apparently, "Jewish". You can't have it both ways.
whypatcondellisntfun 2 years ago 7
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LeopardFrogPilboxhat 2 years ago
You also fail to mention that Israeli settlers chant "death to Arabs" in the same manner you describe with hamas. settlers don't kill only because that is left to their soldiers who do it without being called terrorists.
What I'm saying is Bigots and right wing extremists exist on both sides. That shouldn't undermine the tragedy beset upon the palestinian or lessen their cause.
You are falling victim to the biased news reporting that culminated in the GW Bush era.
mabutaleb 2 years ago 6
And as much as I disagree with the Israeli occupation and Israeli policies, and as much as I agree that people living under illegal occupation have the right and obligation to resist (with armed force if necessary), the nature of Hamas and Hezbollah are far beyond any resistance I could ever support. They are incredibly anti-Semitic, incredibly violent, narcissistic, conspiracy theorist and downright fascistic forces dedicated not only to the destruction of Israel, but to Jews.
vandeperck1 2 years ago
Final thought.
The last bit is going to piss people off but it has to be said. That's really how Hamas and Hezbollah are. Hez, for instance, have rallies where they chant "death to Jews" under a banner depicting a mushroom cloud. They believe in all sorts of conspiracies about how "Zionists" secretly rule the world and so on.
It's very sad. Perhaps if Israel pulls back that will moderate them, but ultimately the Arabs have to learn to live with an Israeli state. They have to recognize it.
vandeperck1 2 years ago
Zizek, I think, is basically correct about the nature of Israeli oppression of Palestinians. But Zizek also points out that the leftist comparison with Nazi Germany is simply false. Be very careful with saying things like the Jews are the new Nazis, Israel is a racist bigoted regime, the same kind of regime the Jews ran away from, etc. etc. etc.
It's simply a false comparison. The nature of the Nazi regime was far different than a militaristic, but fundamentally liberal and democratic Israel.
vandeperck1 2 years ago
As an addendum -- again, it makes no historical sense except as a way to beat up the Jews with their own history. These so-called leftists say: ah, you Jews have internalized the suffering of the Holocaust, you're now taking it out on Palestine and so on and so on.
All I can say about this is that its ignorant, idiotic or demagogic.
vandeperck1 2 years ago
I don't always agree with Zizek. but I definitely agree with him on this one. The Palestinian suffering is extreme and tragic. Israel needs to come to its senses. It has become the racist bigoted regime it ran away from.
mabutaleb 2 years ago 3
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Zizek is an interesting writer, but I think he's out of touch on Israel - he doesn't grasp the genuine security threats they face. I agree with Zizek, Israelis don't help themselves by having these stupid little laws. On the other hand, even if they behaved like angels, the world, or at least the arabs, would still hate them, and they'd have all the same security problems, which are rooted in an Islamist ideology indifferent to real greviences (which might, nonetheless, still exist)
michelangeli23 2 years ago
Again, I'm a fan of Zizek, and agree the Palestinians have legitimate complaints (which are, however, usually much exaggerated for ideological purposes), but ideology over-determines Palestinian terrorism.
michelangeli23 2 years ago
And it has produced the inaccuracies of their mostly inaccurate nativist narrative. If the palestinians dropped their weapons tomorrow, there would be peace. If they dropped their narrative there would be peace.
michelangeli23 2 years ago
And of course the same is true of certain aspects of Israeli society. However, they (the settlers ect) play a far smaller causal role in the conflict
michelangeli23 2 years ago
First of all the label "terrorism" has such a strong negative semantic attached. It's a propagandalabel to distinguish the "righteous" killing of civilians, from the "evil" killing of civilians. I think Zizek doesn't focus on the historical context. The israeli state is based on a colonial ground. I can go on and on why Hamas and Hezbollah are the righteous in the conflict. But i think people like Finkelstein, Chomsky and Chossudovsky would be more appropriate as a source.
Policeunits70 2 years ago
Without downtalking the gruesomeness of the Holocaust, it's a fact that zionists have the means to extensively show their suffering. Much more than for ex. millions of Africans that perish every year from the globalised world.
Policeunits70 2 years ago
SZ was great inthis and made BHL look like a hypocritical fool!!
BHL really cares about women lol while killing them, maiming their children, supporting blockades on food and medicine. Some love for women. BHL even supported sanctions on Iraq that caused the death of 500000 children under 12 yrs old in only 4 yrs( 92-96).
What a sick joke that bhl stands for anyone that isn't Jewish..lol
btw "Violence" SZ's new book is VERY good.....READ IT!!!
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LoveAmericaStyle 3 years ago
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klimes86 3 years ago 2
Fuck this racist pig with the gall to call himself an intellectual and fuck all of you who hate Israel
breeeegs 3 years ago
Very good, breeeegs, if you don't have an argument to make, just call people racist.
jawhitten 3 years ago
Henri-Levy had to leave his earlier diluted Leftism,now he can wear silk shirts and spew hypocrisy; he loves it; he gets the best of both worlds, he can pretend to care for the impoverished,but would like the Israeli Generals to give him options to buy stock in military corporations for free;
herma57 3 years ago
isreal is a murderer , wake up people
ahmadababnah 3 years ago 7
Both sides need to stop calling the other, zionists, or islamofascists.
bahramf 3 years ago 3
I am very much awake, it is the rest of the world that is blind to the fact that the only murderers and terrorists are so-called Palestinians that breed their children to hate, take innocent lives by immolating themselves in public places, and launch rockets into Jewish homes on a daily basis , you scum-sucking pool of anti-semite urine
breeeegs 3 years ago
there is no way you are awake...there are no right and wrongs in killing....its just evil, and the world is against zionists like you....when you are being told by so many that israel is in the wrong its time to rethink whats in your head....
lumpfish99 3 years ago
I will NEVER listen to you. FUCK. YOU
breeeegs 3 years ago
You are pathetic. I have an undying love for the Jewish people, and for Israel, the homeland of my people. You can continue hating and railing against Israel all you want. We will endure long after everything you and your beloved Palestinian terror groups represent has crumbled into the dust.
breeeegs 3 years ago
i hope god has the same feelings for you....however i seriously doubt that....
lumpfish99 3 years ago
Yes, I am sure G-d really despises me for having love for Israel and my people. Actually in the bible, it says that "one who curses Israel curses G-d". So perhaps it is you who has fallen out of favor with the Creator
breeeegs 3 years ago
so your god is happy with israel destroying his creation???!!!! you are insane.
lumpfish99 3 years ago
@breeeegs so you think God wants you to kill en destroy? you crazy jeww
NaBjE11 8 months ago
"There are no right and wrongs in killing". Of course you would believe that, wouldn't you. Any killing is justified, no matter how senseless or whatever the cost. "Its just evil." You tell me which is more "evil": when Israel strikes at Hamas targets as a means of defending itself from incessant terrorist attacks: or when a self-proclaimed martyr walks into a marketplace and obliterates himself, taking hundreds of lives with him. If you have trouble answering that, you are truly disturbed
breeeegs 3 years ago
Israel has once again began "Defending itself" by launching airstrikes killing more chidren after a rocket was fired. The israeli govt said noone was injured or killed but their airstrike has so far killed 14...6 were children....if you believe your god wants that then you need serious help....
lumpfish99 3 years ago
If you think there is any comparison between six children being accidentally killed in an attempt to destroy terrorists and hundreds of children being targeted deliberately by Palestinian suicide bombers, then YOU are the one who needs help
breeeegs 3 years ago
im not going to bother with this anymore....i know what you are.....the world has seen what israel has done and shouting to hide your guilt will no longer work.
lumpfish99 3 years ago 2
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"Post marxist sociologist", id est:
He was wrong all his life and keeps on being wrong today (and having a more broken English than mine even though when I was working he was pretending to study).
italianchappy 3 years ago
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This guy is an idiot, Israel should grind the Palestinians into dust.
WarVideo 3 years ago
You sound like an adolescent male expressing his hypermasculinity.
Yeah man, just nuke 'em all man. NUKE 'EM! Yah, woo hoooooo!
CapitalFailsUsNow 3 years ago 7
You should say the same thing when muslims callfor the destruction of Israel and America.
WarVideo 3 years ago
Hamas is no threat to america.
lumpfish99 3 years ago
Muslims supposedly call for the destruction of the Zionists. The Zionists actually invade and occupy Muslim nations, murdering thousands.
Actions speak louder than words
oldjoe5 3 years ago 4
Tell me where defend a creation of a Palestinian State are callfor destruction of Israel and USA ( Not American,, becouse I'm american - Brasil - and I don't receive any airplane).
Why did you Say Muslims? The religios intolerance are yours. What USA do and is critisize by the Palestins are not atribuied to a Cristian Civilization. I've never seen any Palestinian Word against Brasil, Portugal, Argentina, Chile, etc etc..
flofer1225 3 years ago
Fascist!
cvb777 3 years ago
No, Capitalist.
WarVideo 3 years ago
Well you need another Hitler but this time a real one not the fake one.
nafees18 3 years ago
i suppose your ready to go smash some palestinian childrens heads right?
lumpfish99 3 years ago
If it'll stop them from ending their lives with a round of explosives strapped to their waist, then yes. And I have little doubt YOU are ready to do the same and worse to Jewish Israeli children, you delusional hypocritical fuck
breeeegs 3 years ago
if i was put into the situation the palestinians are in...yes, sure in fact i wouldnt have a choice, its better to die trying to liberate your people than to live in slavery.....
lumpfish99 3 years ago
You have been brainwashed by the liberal media. Tell me how the Palestinians are enslaved. They are nothing more than a race of violent arabs that have grown fat and prosperous on Jewish suffering. It seems like you have closed your mind to the Jewish men women and children who are being murdered constantly from suicide bombings and rocket attacks from terror groups supported by these people
breeeegs 3 years ago
i dont think your serious...i have heard recently that there are people like you online.....
lumpfish99 3 years ago
Are YOU ready to launch Quassam rockets into civilian territories or walk into a marketplace with a bomb strapped to your waste to end the lives of Jewish women and children, er, I mean "vile Zionist occupiers"
breeeegs 3 years ago
yes.
lumpfish99 3 years ago
Israel women arent civilians.They are soldiers so dont call them civilians because they arent.
Greetings from Europe
slovenclj007 3 years ago
You are absolutely right, the fact that the few comments on here supporting Israel are the ones being censored is making me angry and sick
breeeegs 3 years ago
They both make very good arguments. I love such intelligent debate!
TheOperative 3 years ago