Home Made E-Drums - Addictive Drums

[KaslarProductions]

Nice 5/4 signature

[emerald876]

how much would something like this cost to make? looking into an affordable way to get an e-drumset that sounds realistic

[higginsrob]

I was lucky enough to get the pearl practice drum kit from my buddy for $50, but all together the kit was about $120. The most expensive part is the midi brain, they go for $150 - $2000, I'm using a cheap one (alesis DM5) just for midi conversion, and software (Addictive Drums) as the sound module.

[higginsrob]

if you want to go super cheap, just screw a piezo pickup from radio shack ($2) into any surface you want to beat on, presto drum trigger. Wire that up to a midi brain and your good.

[holapegame]

awesome kit man!

[tim0mansell]

Is that Tortoise?

[rhythmantic]

Hey great job on the edrum set construction.

[TheSumOfX]

How is this homeade? all this parts can be bought very easily.

[FenderManiac13]

@TheSumOfX Read the description jackass.

[eminem1022]

Bleh

[socialgrudge]

I have an Alesis DM5 and Addictive Drums, Cubase Le4 ANS AN m-aUDIO usb TO mIDI cABLE AND AN m-aUDIO fAST tRACK, AND i CANT GET MY aLESIS KIT TO TRIGGER MY Addictive Drums...HELP

[LemonSkull]

is this velocity sensitive? if so, how?

[zihelmet]

pearl meshheads r shit gives too much rebound way to much

[jeffreycollins]

Anyone got any ideas on how to make a MALLETKAT. That's what I'd like to try to do, but I don't know of any modules that will allow that many inputs.

[Jank143]

couldn't really hear how they sound with the music because of the horrible mix job, but if they're anywhere near as good of a sound as a Roland kit, I can definitely see the advantage of converting an acoustic kit to an e-kit for indoor use (and still being able to use them acoustically for gigs).

[MrRamminator1]

accoustic drum kits will always rule

[NastyNatey]

@MrRamminator1 I agree, but not everyone has the luxury of being able to play them, living in an apartment, renting a room..plus, the process of mic`ing drums can be tedious.

[MrRamminator1]

iagree dude.not every one has luxuiers like some other ppl and i just brought my first drum kit 2 weeks and i all ready broke a hi hat

[shahzains]

@MrRamminator1 thats because u r a rich spoiled brat who has no sense of value of hard earned money

[bullmastif921]

@shahzains most acoustic sets are cheaper than electronic ones...

[ronnysoeberg]

@MrRamminator1 No one really cares. Acoustic guitars will always rule as well. As will pianos and modular analog synths. Yet electric guitars, stage pianos and virtual analog synths/vsti/AU are the norm. Make music and enjoy it instead of caring about any of that inconsequential crap. Most the music you and everyone else listens to has been "fixed" by some producer in a studio in one way or another. And these days, drums are processed in such a way that they sound digital anyway.

[danuu2]

Just constructive criticism: you should work more on your timing with a metronome.

[higginsrob]

yeah, I'm not a drummer. This just a demonstration of a kit I made. Plus this is over a year old, I'm a lot better now, thanks.

[mcufre]

there´s seems to be a lot of people that spend tons on e drums and then they barely know how to play. I dont mean to offend, i just find this noteworthy.

[MusiciansQuarters]

Why not? Its quiet better then have acoustic kit and banging and making noise until you get better ;-)

[B4its2L8guy]

That,s why I made my e drums. Cost me less then a cheap used acoustic kit. I can play all hours of the night and not bother anyone. I, like this video poster, am not a drummer. I produce as well but wanted e drums to speed the demo process up while not sacrificing quality drum production. Check out my vid of my homemade drums.

[tw28st]

cool ... i did the same thing as you ...im not a drummer ...made a kit to feel velocity!

and to understand every part of the band!

....now i understand all the part's

i quit ...tut tut ...guitar stars are.....

[fretsbie]

@danuu2 It is a demo video of an acoustic kit adapted for MIDI use. I don't think this person is suggesting that they are a professional drummer or anything to that effect. The video description also doesn't ask for criticism via some comment like - "Hey what do you think of my playing." I doubt you would go up to someone in an ugly coat on the street and criticize them, so why feel it is right to do that here? YouTube would be a much better place if people came here with their manners.

[TRES70]

Hi!

Can I do the same with a

Yamaha DD-65?,

I use Addictive Drums / Cubase software.

Thank you.

[higginsrob]

I don't know if the Yamaha DD-65 has external trigger inputs. Maybe, check the back.

[TheSlandi]

@higginsrob Don't know if you ever tried it with your DD-65, but I have one and I'm going to attempt to install 1/4" plugs and connect the wiring to the internal trigers so that when an external trigger is plugged in, it disconnects the internal pads and uses the external ones.

[higginsrob]

I have no experience replacing sensors, or Pintech cymbals, but the radioshack piezo's can pretty much be soldered onto anything to make a decent trigger.

[SentraMaster]

So the radio shack piezos are pretty easy to work with? I have a pintech cymbal that has a dead sensor and I'm thinking about getting a piezo from radio shack to swap into it.

[Em4Freak]

in the video what hi hat contraoller is it because you can close and open it and where can i by one ????

[higginsrob]

Roland VH-12

[Em4Freak]

can you make video of your hi hat instalation ?

[higginsrob]

do a search for Roland VH-12, there is a TON of info on the net

[Em4Freak]

your hi hat is get open and closed and what controller are you using ?

[higginsrob]

oh yeah, that was back when I was using a Roland VH-12. now days i just use a cymbal and foot controller. The VH12 is nice but not worth $300.

the midi brain is the Alesis DM5, that is the hi hat controller.

[Em4Freak]

where can i buy the hi hat controller

[higginsrob]

ha ha, yeah, I'm just using a cheap $10 foot controller (like one that would be used for a midi keyboard sustain.

[madhamish264]

sweetness. are those things velocity sensitive at all?

[higginsrob]

yeah, they're velocity sensitive, it's the same as plugging in an alesis e-drum into the drum brain. (or any drum trigger)

[SkateKid00009]

what software did you use at the end??

[higginsrob]

Addictive drums by XLN audio

[razingvoice]

hey, can you please make a walk threw on how you made the drums and on how to run them threw addictive drums :)

[higginsrob]

I want to... eghhh... I've been putting it off for too long. I have other important projects right now, but I'll try to make a vid in a few weeks.

[izaakwi]

mmm man is there any walkthroug for thi you know like a step by step guide online?

[higginsrob]

I might make a walkthrough on how I made the cymbals, super easy, I just drilled screws through the plastic casing on the piezo mics, right into the practice cymbal. Just add the rubber cymbal dampener, solder a cable, and your done!

[HaxorLee]

I find it hard to do with 200Dollars...

Just the materials to make 3 toms and 1 Snare cost around 253 for me from a Cheap Website i found.

Triggers Cost 22 Bucks Each and have a Plug Converter on them so i can just plug a cable on them.

33 for each Tom

11 for each mesh x 4.

That\s 253 dollars for me.

And i havent even started on the Cymbals :(

Not sure if i should just buy ready ones or continue with this my Diy

[higginsrob]

i bought my drum set off craigslist for $50, practice cymbals and pads were about $50, the triggers are $2 each at radioshack, and the mesh heads are around $26 each.

I admit if you don't have a bunch of metal, wire, and connectors sitting around, you'd have to buy those too.

[zioperno]

200$!?! Awesome!

[infeted14]

absolute shit mate give up now

[higginsrob]

Blimey, your a cheeky fellow! Goo-day governor!

[higginsrob]

worth the money? Yeah it was worth the $200 bucks I spent to have a drum kit that performs like a Roland Vkit.

GersonMusik, check the description,

bluetizz34, I used Pintech practice cymbals, drilled piezo microphones from radioshack into the bottom, then added rubber practice pads on top. they work really great.

Thanks Neonuron, just some songs I was messing around with, I played the other instruments to a click then recorded the drums..

[AndarooDude]

was it worth the money? you could just buy a real drum set

[bluetizz34]

what kind of cymbols are those

[GersonMusik]

Hey men, can you tell me how is the name of the pads that you use on the snare and tom's??? I need play this way, but i don't know the best way plase answer me (sorry for my English)

[XxSyotosxX]

sweet deal!

[Neonuron]

Even if your cool invention weren't true, the music segment is awesome!!!

[rhythmtandemplayer]

Check RHYTHMTANDEM

[Greenday34487]

DUDE, thats awesome!!

[dfurnaridrummer]

thats pretty cool

[fourosg1991]

dude how can i connect an alesis dm5 to my pc? my soundcard doesnt have any midi input. what do you suggest? i liked your job with your kit. really sth!

[samlee1324]

Buy an interface, they have midi input for midi and if your a guitarist some have guitar inputs.

[oOKanKlesOo]

what that peice of softwear call on your computer

Addictive Drums?

[MikeyVPT]

Addictive Drums is a nice piece of software. I was ADDICTED!

I use the RET percussion kits. The real heads give it, well, a real feel.

Check out my videos. Keep in mind, I don't have any AD videos... YET!

Good stuff.

-mikey

[alexfxhome]

lol fair enough:)

[alexfxhome]

wouldve been better to just have bought one ? lol

[higginsrob]

sure, if i wanted to spend $1,200 more for the same thing.

[LuGiah]

ridebell and ride is mixed bit but else NICEWORK :D

[higginsrob]

it's dual trigger on the same cymbal

[higginsrob]

it's a dual trigger ride, for the most part it is working perfect.

[Joaker4]

dude ur a genious, 4 thumbs up!! :p

[phattenors]

So you turned some cheap rubber practice cymbals into triggered e-cymbals by just taping/screwing piezos right onto them? On the underside, I imagine? Did you do a dual-trigger ride? Any tricks to setting up the cymbal triggers? I'm looking to do the exact same thing with my kit and have been debating about what to do for cymbals. I was going to use the Alesis Trigger IO, though. Cool vid.

[higginsrob]

yeah, radioshack piezo's have a plastic cover with two holes for screws. I just took standard wood screws and drilled them right into the bottom of a $30 HART practice cymbal set. I then used Cymbal dampeners on the top (about $30/set).

[phattenors]

What's the purpose of the cymbal dampeners if they're rubber practice cymbals? Just curious. Do you have a website/blog with more details on the build?

[buttster13]

i have a td 20

but i cant get the drums to the right pads though addictive drums any idea's on how to direct the sounds

i did the same thing with the cymbals

built my pads for remo practice pads

but i have to buy the hi hats from ebay

from traps drums

thanks for any idea's

[higginsrob]

I've never used a TD-20, but you should be able to assign each trigger input channel with a midi note value. There are 128 sounds available in a midi "program" (think preset, or all the sounds available if you were to plug a keyboard into the midi input).

[wakastepper]

what are those drum heads made of?

[higginsrob]

Musicians Friend #445444, HART dynamic kontrol screen magnum drum head

[darkmacgaren]

man, i liked your drum kit, i downloaded (in emule) a manual with some instructions to how make a e-drum, but its not complete... can you send these instructions to how make a playable e-drum via email?

i have already a eletronic drumset (a staff drum with alesis DM5), but a need a help to upgrade it, and i dont know how to buy this maual in ebay, becouse i am from brazil... (here the drumsets are veeery expensive too, my kit is about 5000 Reais... its about 2500 dollars right?)

[stratocaster539]

Addictive drums are the most responsive.The sampling and editing is second to none.Nice kit!!

[Tw0617]

i never understood why people play that electro shit while they could play a real drum set

[higginsrob]

not everyone can "play a real drum set".

I don't know what the real estate market is like in Germany, but in Los Angeles it's pretty expensive. So until I move into a house or a studio, it's e-drums for me.

What they lack in precision they make up for in versatility.

[twistedviewlabs]

actually, even if you moved into a house in L.A., you'd still have to worry about soundproofing the HELL out of your house/studio seeing as L.A. county has rather strict noise ordinances in effect (some incorporated cities of LA county have tougher noise pollution laws...why do you think parties gets busted @ 11PM..heh, especially in the valley...). Obviously Tw0617 lives in the middle of nowhere with no neighbours within a 20 miles radius. i'm gonna do the same to my acoustic kit

[Tw0617]

i live in a village but my neighbours don't give a damn about the noise unless i play at night or at midday. also me and my band play in my cellar, so no one hears it when we play.

[Tw0617]

oh i see. in germany drums are very expensive, too but i conserve till i have enough money to buy a set. and your e-drum doesn't sound that bad at all.

[sf1102]

e-drums are easier to carry around, it also takes up up less space, doesn't disturb other people, can also connect to your computer, and 1000+ other reasons

[Tw0617]

yeah man that's maybe like you opinion

[meshuggahfan]

hey higgins, look on musiciansfriend(dot)com right now, they have blemeshed Alesis DM-5 modules. I'm sure by what you have done in this, you can make the output wire to each "trigger" a 1/4th and you can plug up to 18 of them in the back of this thing. Would sound a lot better, plus you have the ability to hit it softer and get that same feel of a real set with the practice pads you are using ^_^

[simonpca]

Try to play acoustic drums in an appartemend... You won't make very long :)

[decodine]

wow..your drum great dude...check my diy edrum...my drum look bloody stupid but it work well...

[picklepenner]

are those just regular drums with rubber over them, or are thos truely "homade"

[higginsrob]

I updated the "about this video" section to be a little more descriptive. I'm using mesh heads, they feel a helluva lot better than rubber. The cymbals are rubber, but still feel pretty good.

[ca2per369]

cool.....5 stars

[higginsrob]

I don't know, I've never used a DD506... I have to say the DM5's sounds are pretty lame... I'm just using it to convert the triggers to midi, a software plugin called Addictive Drums is the sound module.

[killz1985]

what is that drum software your pulling up and showing in this video.. where it shows all your drums mixed

[higginsrob]

Addictive drums by XLN Audio. Highly recommended.

[Calumorrison]

Is the DM5 kit better than the session pro DD506?