Lol...that mr.bush just fooling everyone on his country with al.qaeda thing...a man like that can be a president of great american...its really sad tho.....Lol...
another thought, if bin ladens interest in attacking america has solely to do with his hatred of western influence on the middle east, then are not the neo cons correct? The neo cons were the ones who believed terrorism was based on our way of life and freedom and 'western' principles.
this is an interesting series, but why does the series ignore the scholarship and research of blow back principles in bin ladens hatred of the US? For example, bin laden is on record saying his anti americanism has to do with US occupation of holy sites.....
Using the press of allied nations to seed disinformation is an old tactic for the CIA. They used UK newspapers to seed the "Terrorist Network" myth, claiming that all terror groups were soviet-organised, in the 1970s. In the 1990s they published all this crap about "red dirt" nuclear materials.
The Times and its Tora Bora cave network is just another piece of this ongoing disinformation. Trust nothing produced by NewsCorp.
very interesting series, gives a very detailed and thourough analysis of the whole series of events leading up to the present day. But did anyone see the guy throwing up at 3:17?
Erm....they forgot to mention that small detail, about Cheyney, Rumsfeld and the CIA helping to arrange the flight training and stand NORAD down so that their plan could go smoothly. Oh and Bin Ladens brother meeting Bush on 9/11and Anwar Al-Walakwi having lunch at the pentagon soon after 'job' well done.
You see how it works people, now they have got the wars they wanted and all the laws changed they wanted, and all the extra powers they wanted- the CIA and others will start to admit what they actually did!
Fake a terrorist organisation killed some people then went off killing more people and spread the empire ever futher!
It's highly informative,...although it stops at some very critical point: 9/11 couldn't happen, unless CIA, FBI, USAF looked the other way on that day.
It's highly informative,...although it stops at some very critical point: 9/11 couldn't happen, unless CIA, FBI, USAF looked the other way on that day.
@minirac same here.. back then i was trying to deal with the bullshit of high school on top of trying to figure out the rest of the world around me. in reality, i'm still trying to figure that second one out..
Listening to people like Wolfowitz and Perle and their ilk it's no wonder Tommy Franks called Douglas Feith the "stupidest fucking person on the planet."
Unimaginable nonsense at 2:54! That ultra-secret cave complex is like a set out of a James Bond movie. Where was this diagram supposed to have come from? The Al-Qaeda blueprint archive? How did we fall for such transparent and preposterous lies? Think of the thousands upon thousands of lives lost because of our foolishness and gullibility.
Britain joined the search for AlQaeda because of their expertise in fighting terrorism in Ireland? What a joke. I know it's not what the film is about, but to brush of Britain's involvement like that is irresponsible.
they have not found a single cave that looked like the illustration that the london times invented. no prizes for guessing who owns that newspaper. ill give you a clue, he also owns the fox network!!!
Oh my GOD!!! Why are Americans soooo Stupid? Is it religion? Is it because we are trained to believe in something that's not there, to believe without evidence????
Probably something in that - human beings are naturally inquisitive, but religion (drummed into you in America by your parents and seemingly every level of society from an early age) destroys that natural degree of curiousity by teaching as a fundamental precept the notion that you should question nothing. I love how the UK is fast becoming an atheist country, it makes me feel increasingly proud to be British.
@Pepotamo1985 You're right! You should be proud. It rough out here.... He are constantly bombarded with crap, almost to the point that you can't tell if what you want it what you want or what you are trained to want. I'm thankful for people who put out videos like this that makes us question what's really going on!
none of this "extremism" shit would have happened if ONLY IF the Moderate Islamists were put to justice to BE ABLE TO GET TO POWER DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND! BUT HEY!! FU**ING DeMOCRACY WILL BE DESTROYED! OOOOOO Screw democracy. Its nothing but Hypocrisy. Its because of democracy that SOOOO MANY INNOCENT PPLE ARE BEING KILLED ALL OVER THE WORLD NOW!!
much as i appreciate the neo-con's sincere(i believe) belief in their aims and methods, it's quite astonishing to watch them lie so brazenly. what do they take people for? idiots. they might be on to something there.
@MEGAGUY21 Yeah, I am no architect, but I am pretty sure that is impossible, surely the ventilation system would remove heat bunker!? Surely they would be able to hear the "hydroelectric generator"!
Also, the British with their "experience of dealing with the IRA" to help the Americans is nonsense. The terrain and mindset set up by the myth, would be totally different to the IRA! Oh Yeah, because the government simplifies everything as Curtis shows. This doc is REALLY making me angry!
@MEGAGUY21 first time I've seen that illustration, I can't believe they just fabricated that shit. I feel ashamed that it was taken from an English paper.
@MEGAGUY21 Because they have been told it then given 42 channels of American Gladiators, go back to sleep (paraphrase Bill Hicks).
George Carlin said something that i thought MUST have been coined before but apparently not, he said (and coined) "It's called the American Dream because you have to be a sleep to believe it" - Perfect, genius and funny.
@MEGAGUY21 It's TOTAL FICTION.... They never did find it, you know. NONE of them... it was said "there are MANY of those". Hahahaha.... there wasn't even ONE.
@minirac fool me once: Shame on you. Fool me twice: Shame on ME..... remember that.
pammyfour1 1 month ago
If only we remember that this "jihad" faction is a very SMALL portion of the Islamic population.....
pammyfour1 1 month ago
Lol...that mr.bush just fooling everyone on his country with al.qaeda thing...a man like that can be a president of great american...its really sad tho.....Lol...
TheFe22y 2 months ago
@younghorsey He's my Dad!
HannerBanner16 2 months ago
Ikidya
bhangman 3 months ago
another thought, if bin ladens interest in attacking america has solely to do with his hatred of western influence on the middle east, then are not the neo cons correct? The neo cons were the ones who believed terrorism was based on our way of life and freedom and 'western' principles.
packerfan748 5 months ago
this is an interesting series, but why does the series ignore the scholarship and research of blow back principles in bin ladens hatred of the US? For example, bin laden is on record saying his anti americanism has to do with US occupation of holy sites.....
packerfan748 5 months ago
Using the press of allied nations to seed disinformation is an old tactic for the CIA. They used UK newspapers to seed the "Terrorist Network" myth, claiming that all terror groups were soviet-organised, in the 1970s. In the 1990s they published all this crap about "red dirt" nuclear materials.
The Times and its Tora Bora cave network is just another piece of this ongoing disinformation. Trust nothing produced by NewsCorp.
belisariusorb 5 months ago
2:25 wtf did they think Bin Laden was Batman and he could build himself a cave, what a bunch of liars, they pulled that out of their asses.
mozilla1986 9 months ago
Boy, the BBC forgot to mention the British role is this whole issue. This is nothing more than anti-American propaganda.
yakchirscarlson 10 months ago
That fucking cave is bigger than NORAD
Graham6762 10 months ago
very interesting series, gives a very detailed and thourough analysis of the whole series of events leading up to the present day. But did anyone see the guy throwing up at 3:17?
cl1mbat1ze 11 months ago
Erm....they forgot to mention that small detail, about Cheyney, Rumsfeld and the CIA helping to arrange the flight training and stand NORAD down so that their plan could go smoothly. Oh and Bin Ladens brother meeting Bush on 9/11and Anwar Al-Walakwi having lunch at the pentagon soon after 'job' well done.
hrnciarska 1 year ago
Has anyone checked yet to see if Bin Laden has taken up residence in Blofeld's old volcano-base?
flankspeed 1 year ago
Nice - hydroelectric-powered subterranean fortresses! I'd like one of these - too bad they never existed. Well done, Donny Rum!
bannor99 1 year ago 2
I think I saw that base on an episode of G.I. Joe.
bigtoine45 1 year ago
You see how it works people, now they have got the wars they wanted and all the laws changed they wanted, and all the extra powers they wanted- the CIA and others will start to admit what they actually did!
Fake a terrorist organisation killed some people then went off killing more people and spread the empire ever futher!
099749 1 year ago
"there will be military looking in caves for people they will never find" Nick Rockefeller in a private conversation with Aaron Russo. October 2000
gerwazjana 1 year ago
@minirac Not really our fault, but so-called journalists lapped it up without any integrity or desire to question who had given such information.
ikkoikki 1 year ago
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It's highly informative,...although it stops at some very critical point: 9/11 couldn't happen, unless CIA, FBI, USAF looked the other way on that day.
snasernia 1 year ago
It's highly informative,...although it stops at some very critical point: 9/11 couldn't happen, unless CIA, FBI, USAF looked the other way on that day.
snasernia 1 year ago
@snasernia its not going to go that far! its the BBC. go figure lol but your right though well said.
sksnkton 1 year ago
@minirac same here.. back then i was trying to deal with the bullshit of high school on top of trying to figure out the rest of the world around me. in reality, i'm still trying to figure that second one out..
sargeantwelsh 1 year ago
04:46 captain price
XDMEGA 1 year ago
@minirac I think a lot of people were...
gtfo9999 1 year ago
@MsAqualion I agree, thank you for the vid. Makes me thing of Edward Berneys.. the Devil....
dizzitoast 1 year ago
@minirac Not watching television would have been the first step...
gtfo9999 1 year ago
nuke nuke evil america for killing thousands of ppl soon we nuke them n wipe this disease frm dis planet
maafiaa2002 1 year ago
@maafiaa2002 And how does killing a nation of people make you any better or less evil? You're just as evil.
gtfo9999 1 year ago
THE american people are the most dumb down humans to ever exist on the planet
firefox8192 1 year ago
Listening to people like Wolfowitz and Perle and their ilk it's no wonder Tommy Franks called Douglas Feith the "stupidest fucking person on the planet."
ChrisDutch 1 year ago
@MsAqualion u mad? u mad cause your shit govt lied on you?
Valdris1987 1 year ago
Rummy needs to eat guano for that bat cave BS
ViperVisor 1 year ago
The Fortress maybe a sham - but it is a good idea. Maybe we just need to use it for a World Communist Revolution...
TheVoiceOfReason93 1 year ago
LOL how can some sandniggers have such a sofisticaded underground base when they can`t even eat?
Valdris1987 1 year ago
Unimaginable nonsense at 2:54! That ultra-secret cave complex is like a set out of a James Bond movie. Where was this diagram supposed to have come from? The Al-Qaeda blueprint archive? How did we fall for such transparent and preposterous lies? Think of the thousands upon thousands of lives lost because of our foolishness and gullibility.
jimtrueblue99 1 year ago
Britain joined the search for AlQaeda because of their expertise in fighting terrorism in Ireland? What a joke. I know it's not what the film is about, but to brush of Britain's involvement like that is irresponsible.
dyrale 1 year ago
@dyrale Such a throw-away, insensitive line in the documentary, really struck a chord!
HannerBanner16 2 months ago
Wow, its just like a cartoon:
We British are going to destroy terrorism!
(Five Weeks Later)
We British are going to leave! There ain't no terrorists!
So, who's laughing?
TheVoiceOfReason93 1 year ago
they have not found a single cave that looked like the illustration that the london times invented. no prizes for guessing who owns that newspaper. ill give you a clue, he also owns the fox network!!!
irishdubfoundation 2 years ago
Oh my GOD!!! Why are Americans soooo Stupid? Is it religion? Is it because we are trained to believe in something that's not there, to believe without evidence????
dizzitoast 2 years ago
@dizzitoast
Probably something in that - human beings are naturally inquisitive, but religion (drummed into you in America by your parents and seemingly every level of society from an early age) destroys that natural degree of curiousity by teaching as a fundamental precept the notion that you should question nothing. I love how the UK is fast becoming an atheist country, it makes me feel increasingly proud to be British.
Pepotamo1985 1 year ago
@Pepotamo1985 True.. it's a rough process breaking away from stupid fairytales that grip you with guilt and alienation!
dizzitoast 1 year ago
@Pepotamo1985 You're right! You should be proud. It rough out here.... He are constantly bombarded with crap, almost to the point that you can't tell if what you want it what you want or what you are trained to want. I'm thankful for people who put out videos like this that makes us question what's really going on!
dizzitoast 1 year ago
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j3parrots 2 years ago
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More propaganda from "BBC." Let's have a REAL TRUTH documentary from media that can be trusted.
principles101 2 years ago
none of this "extremism" shit would have happened if ONLY IF the Moderate Islamists were put to justice to BE ABLE TO GET TO POWER DUE TO POPULAR DEMAND! BUT HEY!! FU**ING DeMOCRACY WILL BE DESTROYED! OOOOOO Screw democracy. Its nothing but Hypocrisy. Its because of democracy that SOOOO MANY INNOCENT PPLE ARE BEING KILLED ALL OVER THE WORLD NOW!!
muslimgiga 2 years ago
@muslimgiga
Funny, I thought that it was because of the American war machine.
deadrebel2 2 years ago
tat too bro.
muslimgiga 2 years ago
much as i appreciate the neo-con's sincere(i believe) belief in their aims and methods, it's quite astonishing to watch them lie so brazenly. what do they take people for? idiots. they might be on to something there.
blatspanner 2 years ago
Hahaha, secret base in the mountains, looks like a fantasy from one of the evil genius types of movies. What a load of bullcrap.
Indrius 2 years ago 6
3:23 lol guy was being car sick.
mjonausk 2 years ago
2:25 they have a detail layout of his hideout
but yet....can't find him. WTF?!
that layout is flat out bull sh!t !!
this whole"the got there finger one the button" crap is full of it!! seriously wtf?! why is people believing this?
MEGAGUY21 2 years ago 14
@MEGAGUY21 Yeah, I am no architect, but I am pretty sure that is impossible, surely the ventilation system would remove heat bunker!? Surely they would be able to hear the "hydroelectric generator"!
Also, the British with their "experience of dealing with the IRA" to help the Americans is nonsense. The terrain and mindset set up by the myth, would be totally different to the IRA! Oh Yeah, because the government simplifies everything as Curtis shows. This doc is REALLY making me angry!
RobSSBB 1 year ago
@MEGAGUY21 was pretty big, though. Lots of cupboards and stuff to hide in
cl1mbat1ze 11 months ago
@MEGAGUY21 first time I've seen that illustration, I can't believe they just fabricated that shit. I feel ashamed that it was taken from an English paper.
mozilla1986 9 months ago
@MEGAGUY21
I don't think the even american army could build a base that complictaed. hahaha
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@MEGAGUY21 Because they have been told it then given 42 channels of American Gladiators, go back to sleep (paraphrase Bill Hicks).
George Carlin said something that i thought MUST have been coined before but apparently not, he said (and coined) "It's called the American Dream because you have to be a sleep to believe it" - Perfect, genius and funny.
Sozlled 3 months ago
@MEGAGUY21 It's TOTAL FICTION.... They never did find it, you know. NONE of them... it was said "there are MANY of those". Hahahaha.... there wasn't even ONE.
pammyfour1 1 month ago
I was about 15, I believed it too. Now I spend nearly every day trying to wake people up.
Pinch0fSalt 2 years ago 2
rofl alqeada was the computer data base name given to islam fighters on the cia computers, maybe they should have gone to langley. rofl
irishgeal1 2 years ago
I like that clip of Bin Laden's fortress, its better equiped than the Batcave
RighteousBrother 3 years ago 8
haha...rightly pointed out!
God...talk about American media!
kawasey 2 years ago 2
in defense of the american media the pic clearly states that it was taken from the london times
orb204 2 years ago
Source: "The Times of London" (owned by Rupert Murdoch)
DJEdSaunders 2 years ago 2