Hahaha I'm a Calvinist and this was funny. Though there were some horrible things being portrayed here. Chase the very same thing can be said about Armenians. Hahaha oh man.
@RefutingCalvinism im preeeeeeeeetty sure he meant Arminian. Arminianism was already declared heresy in real life... but you can use a funny video to declare Calvinism heresy if you want :D
@geoffstore "Arminianism was already declared heresy in real life". Really? By who and under whose authority? Why would I care anyway? I'm not an "Arminian". Calvinism is "heresy" because it is false teaching. It doesn't declare the truth about the Scriptures and God's character...
@GMBrasilino Did you read the description of the video? This is NOT a "misrepresentation of calvinism". It is CONSISTENT Calvinism or Calvinism taken to its logical conclusions...
@jamiles500 What, exactly, are you asking me to prove?
I'm not interested in discussing my view on God's foreknowledge. However, if you want to watch a video that I did on it, you're welcome to do so here: /watch?v=NQDWLB2oV7U
@yankobutt Also, you can't just agree with "some things of Calvinism". It is an all or nothing theological system. Each point stands and falls together: T.U.L.I.P. Most Calvinists will even admit this. And please don't try to appeal to a "paradox" in Scripture, between free will and sovereignty, because there isn't one.
"Hyper-Calvinism" doesn't exist. It was made up by inconsistent Calvinists to put down TRUE Calvinists. I think that the first person to use it was Spurgeon.
@yankobutt I agree with you that God has permitted and allowed all evil that has happened in the world. That is NOT a Calvinistic view though and you need to understand that. The heart of Calvinism is their definition of "sovereignty", which I gave in my last post. If you don't agree with the Calvinistic definition of "sovereignty" and all of the theological implications of it, then you are NOT a Calvinist.
@yankobutt Wait a minute...are you claiming to be Calvinist in your soteriology? If so, you don't know what Calvinism is. There is no "allowing" in Calvinism. Go read Calvin, Beza, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith. If you are claiming to be Calvinistic in your soteriology, then you are confused. In Calvinism, "sovereignty" = "ordaining/decreeing/predestining all things whatsoever comes to pass"...otherwise God isn't "sovereign"...
Epic demonstration of Godwin's Law (Reductio ad Hitlerum). When you can't win by argument (or in this case by the tribunal of Scripture) associate your opponent with Hitler.
@uk67 Epic demonstration of not following the instructions at the top of the screen (in the RED box) and of a straw man argument. Way to go! Try watching my other videos that DO refute Calvinism with the "tribunal of Scripture", instead of making blanket statements that aren't true. Typical Calvinist for you...
@RefutingCalvinism ~ Give uk46 a Break?? He Wears Calvin Kleins.... LoL! Awesome Videyyyoooooo! Loved it!! Heil Hitler...... :) Got Jesus?? Don't be CAUGHT dead without him!
@RefutingCalvinism Didn't Arminius call Calvin the best commenter on the Bible and the closest thing to a living prophet he knew? Rather than making Hitler videos you should be learning to make finer distinctions. Biblical doctrine calls for it.
@uk67 Nice Red Herring. Is it because you know that you put your foot in your mouth? I couldn't care less what Arminius said! I care what the Bible says! Sola Scriptura! I thought Calvinists believed in that? The distinctions I made are just fine. You just chose not to read the video description like you were asked. As I said, my channel is full of Biblical Doctrine, which refutes Calvinism...
@RefutingCalvinism Anticipating a charge of Godwin's Law (which I don't really even see in your description) does not exonerate you from demonstrating Godwin's Law. Hitler is Hitler. Associating your opponent in any way with Hitler is what it is. Calling it satire hardly mitigates things.
@uk67 Are you really that deluded? I've told you already that this satirical video has nothing to do with "associating my opponent" (Calvinism) with Hilter. There are videos all over YouTube using this video clip. That's all there is to it. You've simply read into what I have done here and raise up a straw man so that you can knock it down. Congratulations! Care to humble yourself and say that you were wrong now or do you want to stubbornly go on in your pride?
@uk67 I will say this though: One thing you Calvinists can't escape, if you hold to your definition of "sovereignty" (that "god" decrees/ordains ALL things whatsoever comes to pass)- "god" ordained Hitler and all that he did, as well as all the other sins that have ever happened in the world. If this is true, then your "god" loves sin more than righteousness and is worse than the devil. Oh, and why are you complaining about this video again? Didn't "god" decree it?
@uk67 Question Calvinist won't answer, if you asked a black man in the USA, say from 1600 to 1950, do you believe in election? how many would say yes? that would be zero.....get it yet? probably not...wait, bet you are a white male? correct? correct get it yet? probably not....
@yankobutt Yes, this is true, from what I understand. That is not the point of the video. My intention of this video is not to necessarily associate Calvinism with Hitler...YET, IF Calvinism is true, then all that Hitler did was "ordained/decreed/predestined" by the "god" of Calvinism.
You did an outstanding job. I have shared it on my Facebook wall. Considering the attacks I've received from some Calvinists, it would seem that Hitler was a little more kind and compassive than they are.
anyone notice all these guys in the video are all white males and also pretty much all the people making pro calvinism videos on utube are also white males......hmmmmm
@October31st1517 It's not about the orders being followed, scripture calls Calvin a murderer for his Intent... So amazing the comments in reply as if they exonerate him. "he asked for a beheading instead of burning!" I pity you friend for you are blind
Wow! You really spent a lot of time deciding which words you'd edit in. Where did you get this video without subtitles? Is it the German version of the movie? Nice job!
@cfcharpentier The whole thing took me less than two hours. I found a HD version without subtitles somewhere on YouTube...or maybe it was Vimeo. I don't remember, sorry. Thanks!
@MrSiklon762 HUH? Where in this video did I say that I believe that Hitler is a Calvinist?! Maybe you should read the description. I think that it will help you understand this video a little better...
@RefutingCalvinism Look, we can argue till we are blue in the face, and it will not get us anywhere. As long as we believe in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity, which are all found in scripture. Instead of arguing lets continue to preach the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to the lost, and serve God.
@MrSiklon762 Who's arguing? You made a statement about me, concerning this video, and I responded to it with a question. Calvinism wasn't even mentioned. You obviously don't think sound doctrine and Biblical theology is as important as I do. You act as if it is an either-or thing when it comes to standing up for sound doctrine and preaching the Gospel. To the contrary! It's a both-and thing! I do both!
Great video! Please don't let the Calvinists (or Reformed as most like to be called) guilt-trip you into taking it down. The truth must be exposed no matter if they become offended by it. I know many Reformed (mostly Baptist) people and this is EXACTLY what they believe but yet they always deny it and attack us for lying about their beliefs when we point it out to them. God bless.
I am a Calvinist and Wow this is low. I did agree with you but I still call you brother. I have a lot of friends that don't believe in Calvinism but I love them too. I would never make a video about you like this. I will pray for you my brother. I pray you repent of your hatred toward Calvinists and take this video down! We can agree to disgree but not like this.
@vectormagic WOW! Where in this video did I say that I "hate Calvinists"? I'm sorry, but I have nothing to repent of! This video is SATIRE, that portrays CONSISTENT Calvinism AT ITS WORST: Excuses For Sin, God Ordaining ALL Things Whatsoever Comes To Pass, God Being The Author Of Sin, Christ Not Dying For All, God Wanting Most To Go To Hell, etc. What can I say, the truth HURTS!
I don't eben think the Arminians would go this far. Such a misrepresentation of calvin and Calvinism. BTW, Calvinism has nothing to do with Calvin, yet everything to do with the BIBLE. This was a cheap shot.
@RefutingCalvinism So Calvinists don't engage in street evangelism? Calvin's institutes are our final authority? We believe that Calvin was a better theologian than Jesus? Calvinism teaches that men are not responsible for their own sins? We accept the WCOF over the bible? If Calvinism were truly the way this satire explains, I would not be one.
@October31st1517 Calvin is in hell for the murder of 58 known people of which he showed no signs of repenting of. All Calvinist desire the same if they pursist in that evil demonic doctrine.
Before you reply that Calvin didn't literally DO it, make sure you remember David and Uriah---who was blamed for his death? Yet who literally killed Uriah?
@droptozro Yes, as a Calvinist I have met many who played the Servetus card. You're not unique. But did Calvin order the death of Servetus? Did he not visit servetus to get him to repent? Calvin asked for servetus to be beheaded. But he was burned? Hmm, I thought Calvin was the POPE of geneva. Why wasn't Calvin's orders followed?
@droptozro Great point. Also, the Catholic Church didn't usually kill those it persecuted, it was done at the hand of the state, which it had under its thumb.Still...
The Calvinism debate is like PC vs. Mac... it goes nowhere fast.
RBNightlinger 1 week ago
This video is totally depraved.
Hilarious.
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 "This video is totally depraved". Really? Says who?
RefutingCalvinism 1 week ago
@RefutingCalvinism Haha, I was making a Calvinist joke...
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 Oh ok...
RefutingCalvinism 1 week ago
Hahaha I'm a Calvinist and this was funny. Though there were some horrible things being portrayed here. Chase the very same thing can be said about Armenians. Hahaha oh man.
gtxss 2 weeks ago
@gtxss What does this video have to do with the people of the country of Armenia?
RefutingCalvinism 2 weeks ago
@RefutingCalvinism He means "Arminians"...
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@aznprodigy17 I'm full aware of what he probably meant. That wasn't my point by making the comment that I did...
RefutingCalvinism 1 week ago
@RefutingCalvinism Lol ok.
aznprodigy17 1 week ago
@RefutingCalvinism im preeeeeeeeetty sure he meant Arminian. Arminianism was already declared heresy in real life... but you can use a funny video to declare Calvinism heresy if you want :D
geoffstore 1 week ago
@geoffstore "Arminianism was already declared heresy in real life". Really? By who and under whose authority? Why would I care anyway? I'm not an "Arminian". Calvinism is "heresy" because it is false teaching. It doesn't declare the truth about the Scriptures and God's character...
RefutingCalvinism 1 week ago
This is too awesome. Thanks...Very out of the box and yet extremely accurate to exposing the lie of calvinism. :)
iesquivel32 3 weeks ago
Thanks for posting this very funny video. I am going to share it with all my Calvinist friends.
scottdbarr 1 month ago
@scottdbarr You're welcome...and GOOD!
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
I needed a laugh tonight. Thanks for posting this.
ACallToHoliness 1 month ago
@ACallToHoliness Glad you like it...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
Ok, this is a complete misrepresentation of calvinism (and I'm not calvinist). But still funny!
GMBrasilino 1 month ago
@GMBrasilino Did you read the description of the video? This is NOT a "misrepresentation of calvinism". It is CONSISTENT Calvinism or Calvinism taken to its logical conclusions...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
This video is awesome!
lilihut 1 month ago
@lilihut Yeah, I think I'd have to agree with that... :0)
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@jamiles500 What, exactly, are you asking me to prove?
I'm not interested in discussing my view on God's foreknowledge. However, if you want to watch a video that I did on it, you're welcome to do so here: /watch?v=NQDWLB2oV7U
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@yankobutt Also, you can't just agree with "some things of Calvinism". It is an all or nothing theological system. Each point stands and falls together: T.U.L.I.P. Most Calvinists will even admit this. And please don't try to appeal to a "paradox" in Scripture, between free will and sovereignty, because there isn't one.
"Hyper-Calvinism" doesn't exist. It was made up by inconsistent Calvinists to put down TRUE Calvinists. I think that the first person to use it was Spurgeon.
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@yankobutt I agree with you that God has permitted and allowed all evil that has happened in the world. That is NOT a Calvinistic view though and you need to understand that. The heart of Calvinism is their definition of "sovereignty", which I gave in my last post. If you don't agree with the Calvinistic definition of "sovereignty" and all of the theological implications of it, then you are NOT a Calvinist.
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
Hahahahaha!!! Woo Hoo!!!
QueenyCameron2 1 month ago
@yankobutt Wait a minute...are you claiming to be Calvinist in your soteriology? If so, you don't know what Calvinism is. There is no "allowing" in Calvinism. Go read Calvin, Beza, the Westminster Confession of Faith, the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith. If you are claiming to be Calvinistic in your soteriology, then you are confused. In Calvinism, "sovereignty" = "ordaining/decreeing/predestining all things whatsoever comes to pass"...otherwise God isn't "sovereign"...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
Epic demonstration of Godwin's Law (Reductio ad Hitlerum). When you can't win by argument (or in this case by the tribunal of Scripture) associate your opponent with Hitler.
uk67 1 month ago
@uk67 Epic demonstration of not following the instructions at the top of the screen (in the RED box) and of a straw man argument. Way to go! Try watching my other videos that DO refute Calvinism with the "tribunal of Scripture", instead of making blanket statements that aren't true. Typical Calvinist for you...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@RefutingCalvinism ~ Give uk46 a Break?? He Wears Calvin Kleins.... LoL! Awesome Videyyyoooooo! Loved it!! Heil Hitler...... :) Got Jesus?? Don't be CAUGHT dead without him!
SuperWilliam2424 1 month ago
@SuperWilliam2424 LOL...and AMEN to not being caught dead without Jesus!
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@RefutingCalvinism Didn't Arminius call Calvin the best commenter on the Bible and the closest thing to a living prophet he knew? Rather than making Hitler videos you should be learning to make finer distinctions. Biblical doctrine calls for it.
uk67 1 month ago
@uk67 Nice Red Herring. Is it because you know that you put your foot in your mouth? I couldn't care less what Arminius said! I care what the Bible says! Sola Scriptura! I thought Calvinists believed in that? The distinctions I made are just fine. You just chose not to read the video description like you were asked. As I said, my channel is full of Biblical Doctrine, which refutes Calvinism...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@RefutingCalvinism Anticipating a charge of Godwin's Law (which I don't really even see in your description) does not exonerate you from demonstrating Godwin's Law. Hitler is Hitler. Associating your opponent in any way with Hitler is what it is. Calling it satire hardly mitigates things.
uk67 1 month ago
@uk67 Are you really that deluded? I've told you already that this satirical video has nothing to do with "associating my opponent" (Calvinism) with Hilter. There are videos all over YouTube using this video clip. That's all there is to it. You've simply read into what I have done here and raise up a straw man so that you can knock it down. Congratulations! Care to humble yourself and say that you were wrong now or do you want to stubbornly go on in your pride?
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@uk67 I will say this though: One thing you Calvinists can't escape, if you hold to your definition of "sovereignty" (that "god" decrees/ordains ALL things whatsoever comes to pass)- "god" ordained Hitler and all that he did, as well as all the other sins that have ever happened in the world. If this is true, then your "god" loves sin more than righteousness and is worse than the devil. Oh, and why are you complaining about this video again? Didn't "god" decree it?
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@uk67 Question Calvinist won't answer, if you asked a black man in the USA, say from 1600 to 1950, do you believe in election? how many would say yes? that would be zero.....get it yet? probably not...wait, bet you are a white male? correct? correct get it yet? probably not....
hemet92544 1 month ago
@yankobutt Yes, this is true, from what I understand. That is not the point of the video. My intention of this video is not to necessarily associate Calvinism with Hitler...YET, IF Calvinism is true, then all that Hitler did was "ordained/decreed/predestined" by the "god" of Calvinism.
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
As a Calvinist, I love this video :) Thanks guys! This is comedy gold
Wilkins777 1 month ago
@Wilkins777 I'm glad you like it. It was meant to be funny to some degree...yet it should also be sobering for the Calvinist...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
Great stuff! A true portrayal of the Calvinistic deceit!
ChristianHopeVideos 1 month ago
You did an outstanding job. I have shared it on my Facebook wall. Considering the attacks I've received from some Calvinists, it would seem that Hitler was a little more kind and compassive than they are.
EnDefensadelaFe 1 month ago
anyone notice all these guys in the video are all white males and also pretty much all the people making pro calvinism videos on utube are also white males......hmmmmm
hemet92544 1 month ago
@October31st1517 It's not about the orders being followed, scripture calls Calvin a murderer for his Intent... So amazing the comments in reply as if they exonerate him. "he asked for a beheading instead of burning!" I pity you friend for you are blind
droptozro 1 month ago
Wow! You really spent a lot of time deciding which words you'd edit in. Where did you get this video without subtitles? Is it the German version of the movie? Nice job!
cfcharpentier 1 month ago
@cfcharpentier The whole thing took me less than two hours. I found a HD version without subtitles somewhere on YouTube...or maybe it was Vimeo. I don't remember, sorry. Thanks!
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
Can't believe you actually believe that Hitler was a Calvinist just because of a movie, which is not historically accurate.
MrSiklon762 1 month ago
@MrSiklon762 HUH? Where in this video did I say that I believe that Hitler is a Calvinist?! Maybe you should read the description. I think that it will help you understand this video a little better...
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
@RefutingCalvinism Look, we can argue till we are blue in the face, and it will not get us anywhere. As long as we believe in the fundamental doctrines of Christianity, which are all found in scripture. Instead of arguing lets continue to preach the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ to the lost, and serve God.
MrSiklon762 1 month ago
@MrSiklon762 Who's arguing? You made a statement about me, concerning this video, and I responded to it with a question. Calvinism wasn't even mentioned. You obviously don't think sound doctrine and Biblical theology is as important as I do. You act as if it is an either-or thing when it comes to standing up for sound doctrine and preaching the Gospel. To the contrary! It's a both-and thing! I do both!
RefutingCalvinism 1 month ago
Wow! Im a Calvinist and I even got a kick out of this!
astherrien 2 months ago
I loved it!!! amazing job, brother! Seriously!
catafarinha 2 months ago
@catafarinha Thanks sister!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
Amazing upload!!!!!! Ill be sure to mirror on my channel for all to see!
TheCozmikTruth 2 months ago
@TheCozmikTruth Great! Thanks!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
Like the irony.
RPM11111 2 months ago
5 Stars! Great Job!
1000DaysEvangelism 2 months ago
@1000DaysEvangelism Thanks!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
You are awesome Kerrigan!!!! LOVE This!!! Your sis in Christ, Faythe
SalvationTruths 2 months ago
@SalvationTruths God Bless you Sister Faythe! You're welcome...glad you like it!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
Great video! Please don't let the Calvinists (or Reformed as most like to be called) guilt-trip you into taking it down. The truth must be exposed no matter if they become offended by it. I know many Reformed (mostly Baptist) people and this is EXACTLY what they believe but yet they always deny it and attack us for lying about their beliefs when we point it out to them. God bless.
dgc3163 2 months ago
@dgc3163 No worries, this video isn't going anywhere! God Bless...
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
Very funny video! I guess Hitler was pre-destined to kill all those people.
buddyfisher1 2 months ago
@buddyfisher1 Thanks brother! That's good reasoning right there brother. Not only that, but God predestined me to make this video and upload it! :0)
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
This video is true!! Calvinist are decieved!!!
publicpreacher 2 months ago
Fantastic video!!
publicpreacher 2 months ago
@publicpreacher Thanks!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
I am a Calvinist and Wow this is low. I did agree with you but I still call you brother. I have a lot of friends that don't believe in Calvinism but I love them too. I would never make a video about you like this. I will pray for you my brother. I pray you repent of your hatred toward Calvinists and take this video down! We can agree to disgree but not like this.
vectormagic 2 months ago
@vectormagic WOW! Where in this video did I say that I "hate Calvinists"? I'm sorry, but I have nothing to repent of! This video is SATIRE, that portrays CONSISTENT Calvinism AT ITS WORST: Excuses For Sin, God Ordaining ALL Things Whatsoever Comes To Pass, God Being The Author Of Sin, Christ Not Dying For All, God Wanting Most To Go To Hell, etc. What can I say, the truth HURTS!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
@vectormagic Calvinism is demonic get your friends out of it if you love them.
saudertim1 2 months ago
I don't eben think the Arminians would go this far. Such a misrepresentation of calvin and Calvinism. BTW, Calvinism has nothing to do with Calvin, yet everything to do with the BIBLE. This was a cheap shot.
October31st1517 2 months ago
@October31st1517 "This was a cheap shot." Sorry, but the truth hurts, eh? This is a SATIRE about Consistent Calvinism AT ITS WORST...and YOU KNOW IT!
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago
@RefutingCalvinism So Calvinists don't engage in street evangelism? Calvin's institutes are our final authority? We believe that Calvin was a better theologian than Jesus? Calvinism teaches that men are not responsible for their own sins? We accept the WCOF over the bible? If Calvinism were truly the way this satire explains, I would not be one.
October31st1517 2 months ago
@October31st1517 Calvin is in hell for the murder of 58 known people of which he showed no signs of repenting of. All Calvinist desire the same if they pursist in that evil demonic doctrine.
saudertim1 2 months ago
@saudertim1 Really? Who did Calvin Murder? Can you please provide me with 1 name?
October31st1517 2 months ago
@October31st1517
"Michael Servetus"
Calvin called for his death.
Before you reply that Calvin didn't literally DO it, make sure you remember David and Uriah---who was blamed for his death? Yet who literally killed Uriah?
droptozro 2 months ago
@droptozro Yes, as a Calvinist I have met many who played the Servetus card. You're not unique. But did Calvin order the death of Servetus? Did he not visit servetus to get him to repent? Calvin asked for servetus to be beheaded. But he was burned? Hmm, I thought Calvin was the POPE of geneva. Why wasn't Calvin's orders followed?
October31st1517 2 months ago
@droptozro Great point. Also, the Catholic Church didn't usually kill those it persecuted, it was done at the hand of the state, which it had under its thumb.Still...
cfcharpentier 1 month ago
@October31st1517 go to google, type in John Calvin, choose the John Calvin Wikipedia link, read
hemet92544 2 months ago
Poor arminians.
JvDaP 2 months ago
@JvDaP Yeah, poor Arminians, when people like Calvin are in authority...
RefutingCalvinism 2 months ago