Damn, the video totally shitted on the voice over. lmao Whoever did the commentating was a complete moron. Today's NBA = a free pass to the rim every time down the court and/or a foul. 80's-90's NBA was the shit, and not just because of Jordan but the overall competitiveness and toughness. Real rivalries, real heart on the floor every night. Players actually cared about winning and you'd have to fight them for every win, a lot of times literally. The NBA is so boring now.
i quote horace grant talking about mj `if you let him ride you, he'll ride you right out of the nba and out of your mind' mj was psychotic about winning. mj mentally demonlished TEAMMATES at practice, whadaya think he did to opponents? the entire NBA, INCLUDING HIS OWN TEAMMATES, were scared of him because of his mentality except bird magic & isiah; can you say that of any other athlete? if he trusted his team in 89 & 90 i believe 100% they would have won both rings; phil jackson convinced him
@drsaberkhan I read one article Grant responded to Pip's comment on LBJ, and Grant actually said MJ was so serious in practice, and that actually made his teammates better. In Pip's opinion, LBJ can get his teammates involved in game, but in Grant's opinion, MJ was better becoz he MADE his teammates better.
If a leader can make his teammates better, thats far more important than just get teammates involved in game, becoz they will automatically involved in game if they get better & better.
@jimmychuang dude you wanna know how intense mj was in practice ? one incident was courtside, where he's on pippen and grants ass shouting at them fuming at the mouth shouting at cartwright. cartwright tries not to look at him and mj with one hand pulls him and puts a finger in his face. i could read his lips `hey dont you walk away this is a team'. his teammates were scared of it. it was like a cult and phil jackson was STANDING LIKE A PLAYER ON THE TEAM LISTENING TO MJ
@drsaberkhan the more powerful mj teamsmanship stories arent known: heres a few i idolise. hodges misses 2 consequtive 3s @atlanta. the skinny mj off rebounds HARD, gets double, tosses it to hodges. hodges hits a 2-jumper. on the inbound mj suddenly grabs the ball as its being passed to the atlanta pg and tosses it to hodges and says `hit the 3'. holds up 3 fingers. hodges just pauses, hits the 3. mj PUTS his hand on hodges' shoulder looks at atlanta's bench like `no one fucks with MY TEAM'
@drsaberkhan I know things happen to Kerr, Cartwright, Perdue, Brown, but never read anything you claim. But I know he is a damn serious person.
But Grant now said this is good and made them better, so I think those incidents not really happen very often, otherwise, the Bulls dynasty would never exist.
@jimmychuang dude he hit kerr in the face in some practice and went to blows with him. he apologized and all that. he admitted it on espn. what he did to grant i saw with my own eyes. EVERYONE saw him coach shout at and boost up pippen on court all the time. remember when pippen was scoring and abusing mcdaniel offensively, so mcdaniel pushes pip who doesnt respond ? mj comes in the middle shouts at mcdaniel? eveyone could read mjs lips `fuck you' at mcdaniel
@drsaberkhan So you watched live game, I really like that game vs. NYK. MJ was really mean, I know it, in his biography, he said "don't pass to Perdue, he can't shoot" something like that. Kerr incident maybe the most serious, but somehow those teammates still respect him and can still play for years together and celebrate their winning. I mean MJ must have something let people want to follow him.
We saw Phil blame KB many time(even wrote book), but nothing bad happen to he and MJ.
@jimmychuang it happened first with cartwright (according to a reporter catrwright threatened to break his legs after mj shouted at him) and purdue. mj was frustrated as hell 86-90. see he wanted the TEAM to win. theres one clip, i dont remember the game bro, he had pulled a double team and had the big out of position and had created a backdoor pass for some player i think it was a bencher. that moron didnt even move. mj just stood up cradling the hand in his left arm and looked at him
@drsaberkhan mj made kerr a great shooter-not skill, but by saying look ill get the guy off you, just stay close by. he taught pip every trick he never hid his tricks you know ? in 98 first game of mj vs kobe, kobe asked him how mj judged the defense when the back was turned. mj told him the truth, use your legs to feel it. we know how competitive mj was his teammates loved him cuz they knew he loved them the team not mj. 88 he was the pg he gave up shots to pass. he ALWAYS put the team first
@drsaberkhan mj also learned from everyone. he took lessons from pax and kerr very humbly. in practice you could see him mimicking hodges pax kerr. kobe doesnt have that teamsmanship yknow. mj ALWAYS did help d even when it meant 99% he was gonna be embarrassed. teammates loved that. he copied pips defense on pg's and the soft block and gave pip credit for it. 90+ he played offball cuz pip became a good ballhandler. when kb passed i felt there was some maliciousness in it..not with mj
@drsaberkhan so many reasons mjs mates loved him. he taught them, learnt from them, he always had their back on D, on offense, he left SG to be a PG, he left SG to be offballer in the triangle offense. and they saw him work on skills which helped the team. he gave up transition dunks to let someone else get the glory, he took IT PERSONALLY if someone was beating his teammate. it was always `dont mess with my mate'. how do you not love a teammate like that?
@jimmychuang kobes a GREAT player but we all know he didnt like to pass to shaq, rice. he did it but didnt celebrate when they scored. mj celebrated everything his team did. by 90, mj always got his teammates in the game the 1st 3 quarters and took over in the 4th. he passed to kerr in 97 for the gamewinner instead of getting the glory. the look in his eye said `i knew you could do it!' kobe is and will be GREAT. but he never gave his game up or changed it for the team. phil blames him for that
@drsaberkhan Also Kobe always take more time to handle the ball, not like MJ, MJ has quicker reaction to the situation, when he doubled he can make decision pass or score in a sudden, but Kobe always handle the ball until he has no way to go. MJ is the one who has more FGA, but Phil never blame he about it, because he never break the triangle offense, he always in the system, but also do a lot of offense and very effective.
@jimmychuang jimmy i dont blame kobe 2k-2k3, because the triangle offense is the most complicated play in bball. compared to the triangle, a screen/backdoor/1-2-2 are BABYSTEPS, they teach that in high school. the triange off started in the 40s but after russell and the focus on defense began in the nba, no one thought it was practical in the pros forget college or highschool. phil `i dare you'd' mj into doing it and what mj did everyone on bulls did. kobe NEVER PLAYED COLLEGE BASKETBALL
@jimmychuang the point of triangle offense is being unselfish being able to pass move without the ball without being predictable, to shoot when open or getting open needs 1 simple move. pass accurately, move without ball, receive ball, shoot or drive if the %s are good, else pass or move with the ball and set up another triangle. it sounds so simple but you cant double team any of the 3 active guys without spreading the floor and allowiing the passives to get a backdoor; real team spirit
@jimmychuang btw jimmy mj was neurotic about winning, he is my idol but i know that about him and me. i am not biased i know my idol and his weaknesses. phils getting mj to believe him made him the ringleader by being chief adviser of the king. now shaq hero worshipped mj, so he listened to phil immediately when he came to LA. phil expected kobe to do so, like pip did. kobe didnt care. and i never felt he BELIEVED the triangle was anything but coaching red tape. i blame phil as well
@drsaberkhan ofcourse kobe takes blame, but phil wasnt such a smily nice guy. he wanted total belief everyone had to believe him. he got JORDAN to listen to him, and this brat comes along who is nothing and he aint listening to shaq who was the man since mj left. all those shaq-kobe wars were just the surface representation of the the real fight which was phil-kobe (everyone was on phils side). kobe felt `i can score faster' he HAS NEVER BELIEVED IN or depended on team help if you notice.
@drsaberkhan i also think and this is conjecture, kbs idea of the triangle may have been presumed by hs dad cuz the nba 70s triple post (triangles name then) had a rep of being the unathletic players' game. and the triangle neeeded unselfishness. as a young guy who can dunk and dribble thats like a regime that says dont do anything you want. it comes out of playing highschool where heroball is necessary. odom is a modern day pip btw notice how he struggles with the triangle as well
@drsaberkhan now odoms not selfish you say. YES EXACTLY! he still struggles the reason is there are set plays in the triangle, the ball can go anywhere, its not ok were going to kobe its using any defensive space while setting up various triangles side to side. odoms not selfish but he suffers. i dont know odoms history but i BET he didnt play college either. and unlike kobe, mj took pride in passing and making a fool of the opponent. he enjoyed it. kobe doesnt. he puts scoring over everything
@drsaberkhan btw id suggest you stop referring to phil as coach and just call him the ringmaster. cuz he wasnt the playmaking guy. that was ALLL tex on offense. on defense it was really the pip-jordan show. another reason jordan played the triangle was he got his dunks on transition which he did A LOT. took the need to showboat out. jordan was schooled in fundamentals in college kobe didnt get the chance. btw tex was always unhappy with mj not passing taking bad shots (even the ones he hit :)
@drsaberkhan yeah I know one time MJ scored 19 pts in last 6 mins and Bulls won, Text told him "there is no I in team", MJ replied "there is I in WIN"
They fight but not break their relations, they still happily work together. They built a great team, no fight can take that away.
But not in Lakers, in Lakers there always have some problem, if Kobe is there. First with Shaq, in their struggle 3 yrs, Phil, and Kobe's teammates unhappy to him, and then last season, they fuck up again
@jimmychuang he said that in his HOF speech we never saw that in the footage though it was 96 i think. against vancouver or against toronto pip was on the bench. shaq didnt wanna be coached he had problems with penny hardaway and phil and tex too. but they all adapted. hell shaq adapted and kobe didnt. eventually kobe did love tex and phil but kobe was never ready to give up the gifts he had for the team. thats a big mental thing in my opinion & why phil criticised kobe
@drsaberkhan I remember KB had several seasons his FGA more than Shaq, in one or two season his FGA more than Shaq but PPG lower than Shaq.
If prime Shaq is there, no way KB should be 1st offense player in his team because Shaq is a more effective offense player. And opponent always double and triple him, he can create huge opportunity for outside players.
@jimmychuang tex doug collins phil and every other critic always talked about how damn long kobe took to make a decision even after he was in position to make a play for others. he preffered to jump and shoot ? what did it get him? undoubtedly from all the players ive ever seen the best shooter with a hand in his face and offbalance beyond 16 feet, and a horrible efficiency as well as teammates who are pissed off. but as someone said thats kobe at least hes not pretending
What some people dont' know is that the lack of physicality not only counts for players when they have the ball, but without it as well. Whenever Jordan is trying to get into position, he's got his defender literally on him and at times there is a line where the guy can take a cheap shot at him if he wants to and a foul may not be called.
@hangtime23ful Oh okay gotcha bro. Can you please give me the name of the other video or the name of the persons channel that made the other video you are talking about please. People love to say that jordan did not get doubled or tripple teamed but i know it's not true because i use to watch his games back in the day.
@hitthedeck245 in fact it was EASIER to double team then since all you gotta do was body up on Jordan and the moment he made a move, have your teammate cut him off as well. Hell if Jordan tried to score in the post the defenders collapse on him. The bigs can camp inside while the PG and wing try pester him from the perimeter. And he already makes you pay by trying to play him close enough because he'll make that shot. Not like Kobe who is either hot or cold at times.
No player has ever faced the kind of pressure kobe is under every year. win one without shaq (CHECK) must beat the Celtics (CHECK) all this with a fucked up finger and knee that had to be drained. GIVE THE GUY SOME FUCKING CREDIT!!
@BeasTxMode2000 Sorry, Kobe has yet carry his team from a pivotal do-or-die game with a flu playing against very competent defenses. Or face against one of the best physical defenses the NBA has ever assembled, the Detroit Pistons of the late 80's. He's never met a foul where he would shrug off either, and would instead complain to the zebras why he didn't get a call.
Kobe gets enough credit. Its nuthuggers like you who exaggerate it too much.
Basketball is basketball ppl make their analysis too deep, the point is u can't compare eras MJ and KB r both great I think they oth do things better than the other but not by much margin. MJ played against more physical defenses but Kobe plays against better athletes. its like u have 2picc ur poison. Kobe plays against harder competition
@zelle908 No, Kobe does not play against harder competition, and Jordan played against tremendous athletes as well. Yes, there are many great players in all eras, Kobe is one of them. But there is only one GOAT, and that's Jordan. Kobe can't sniff that.
actually he would have an easier time because of the no handcheck rule and the 3 sec defensive rule thats in play right now. Jordan played in a tougher more physical era
@zakeer13 No, Kobe is definitely not a better basketball player than Jordan. The only thing Kobe does slightly better is shoot 3s in the regular season. Jordan was as good or better in every aspect of the game, was a FAR better leader, far better big game performer. Basically, in Kobe we are seeing a "watered down" version of the GOAT, MJ.
@utfanatic2000 i see you still takin down these Kobetards like Bruce Blitz be saying huh? These youngstas are really omitted the great accomplishments that MJ concieved in order to pro-create players like Kobe Bryant and i say pro-create because he is the father so to speak of Post MJ era Basketball, including this era and players have patterned their game after Mj, not all, but a significant estimate....
thank thank thank you for proving to that uneducated fool wrong. This video is awesome and the way you dubbed his voice over classic. I actually presented the argument if zone defense was so effective how come 40 year old MJ averaged over 20 PPG in 2003. Needless to say KB42PAH no longer allows me to comment on his page lol.
BrettCarr, so dumb, so dumb. Look at the "cupcakes" Kobe faces, guys like Pietrus, JJ Reddick, Courtney Lee, Kyle Korver, Marco Jaric, 6'1" Anthony Carter, J.R. Smith, Kirk Hinrich. Get real kid. Jordan faced tougher defense and dominated more than Kobe. Jordan only faced isolation? lol, you idiot. The video you just commented on proves you wrong! BrettCarr=Grade A moron.
UT still holding it down. Keep it up. These cats just do not know how great Jordan was and will always be. I like Kobe but his legacy does not stand the test of time to Mikes. Not close. Too bad most people do not see that.
Fuck the rules. Let's just turn back time when basketball was invented and disallow people to even move when they have the ball. Passing only. Oh, and like 3 substitutions.
ylt34c...LOL..LOL...Jordan faced CUPCAKES..EHLO, RICE, STARKS, Mike MCGEE, RORY SPARROW, JeffHornacek?..CUPCAKES...Kobe Faces MEGASTARS like Lebron, WADE, IVERSON, McGRADY, Vince CARTER, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Melo, Manu Ginobli,..Jordan faced Man to Man defenses where Isolation plays left Jordan 1 on 1 with CUPCAKES LIKE EHLO, STARKS, and HORNACEK
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ylt34c...LOL..LOL...Jordan faced CUPCAKES..EHLO, RICE, STARKS, Mike MCGEE, RORY SPARROW, JeffHornacek?..CUPCAKES...Kobe Faces MEGASTARS like Lebron, WADE, IVERSON, McGRADY, Vince CARTER, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Melo, Manu Ginobli,..Jordan faced Man to Man defenses where Isolation plays left Jordan 1 on 1 with CUPCAKES LIKE EHLO, STARKS, and HORNACEK
Michael Jordan scored over 50 in 3 quarters a bunch of times. Notably, against Miami in the 92 playoffs. The he finiched with 56 but he only score 2 in the first quater and the 69 points game against Cleveland he scored 51 in 3 quarters
huh? Jordan shot 3PTers at just a clip beneath Kobe. Jordan .327 career, Kobe .340. In the playoffs, Jordan actually shot 3Pters better than Kobe. Defense was much more physical in MJ's era and defenders were given more capable to defend on the perimeter. The nba purposely got rid of perimeter handchecking to allow easier scoring and to better allow perimeter athletes to showcase their athleticism. Meaning...MJ would be even deadlier under today's rules.
Watch the whole video. The poster uses the voice of another poster who posted a video claiming Kobe faced tougher defense than MJ faced. This video completely proves that guy wrong and proves that Jordan faced everything Kobe faces, and more!
with jordanhair's permission, i upload this to PAH's "kobe vs zone" video as a response and every single time i do it PAH deletes it. LOL. that dude is crazy. he is so allergic to the truth.
He took the commentary from this video and proved him wrong by showing footage contradicting the whole arguement of this guy.... I don't think anyone with this much Jordan footage would call him Kobe lol
MJ is practically the 2nd most double teamed player in history next to SHAQ.
from my point of view a 40 year old MJ could score against a 23 year old Kobe but a 40 year old kobe could not even dribble against a 23 year old MJ no question about that one on one.
I love this video!!! THANK THE LORD.....I love how it mocks the dude who claims Jordan never saw zone lol....no disrespect to Kobe...he's the closest thing to Jordan...and thats y i love him....but he aint MJ....not yet at least.
Playing in the 80's and 90's made Jordan a tougher and more efficient player. I think the players now that get a lot of superstar calls would be a lot better if they had to play against defenses like this because it would make them more efficient.
Thats even funnier when you go and compare those numbers to Kobes MVP year last year...About as close to identical as you can get and Jordan was a rookie.
Unfortunately I was too young to catch Michael when he first entered the league, I mean I can remember watching games and hearing people talk about Jordan but I started watching the NBA while actually being able to understand what was going on around 88. Ive done as much research as I could and watched as many games as I could from Michaels early years but its just not the same as getting to talk about it the day after it happens.
nobody takes pride in playing defense in the league anymore because defense isnt pretty, dont believe me? look at the all star games since 2005 he all star game itself has become nothing more than a dunk contest.
This video utterly destroys kb42pah's lies and claims that Jordan was not doubled teamed and trapped and that he did not face the same so called zones that Kobe faced. if kb42pah wants to claim that...this is the kind of defense Kobe faces in this day and time....then he can't get around this video....which shows the exact same examples for Jordan.....only they are much more vivid and frequent in Jordans case that faggot kb42pah loses lmfao
What I love about this video is that it proves Jordan was doubled and tripled WITHOUT the ball!!! KB42PAH claims this never happened bc it was illegal. Yep, it was illegal, but it happened all the time. KB42PAH==owned!
then what jordanhair did was use the same example's kb42pah did in his Kobe videoonly this time he showed Jordan getting doubled and triple teamedin the time that he played inwhich that moron kb42pah claimed never happened.
This video is based on a completely false premise, that today's defense is better than that of Jordan's day. This is completely opposite of the truth, especially on the perimeter. Read the truth about "The death of defense": hoopshype*com/articles/defense_lazenby*htm
Hey utfanatic, this guy who posted this video meant the video to be sarcastic. First what he did was use that morons kb42pah's actual voice to narrate the video. That voice is from the video kb42pah did which supposedly showed that Kobe has to go up against tougher defense than Jordan.
In fact,if some of these clips here aren't "zone"(they are not ,they are really double team),you shouldn't call some of the clips "zone" in your video too because they are almost the same.And you continued to say "zone""zone""zone"there.
..and let me tell u that u should worry about LBJ couse i think He is better then Kobe...Jordan will stay on the top of the game till last shot will be make.
jordan the highest playoff scoring game in playoff history.... jordan the most three point field goals made in a half in finals history.....jordan the only player in playoff history with back to back 50 point games.....jordan the only player in playoff history to average over 40 points in five different playoff series.
jordan more records than any laker or player in nba history 70 nba records....jordan more playoff records than any laker or player who has ever played 40 plus playoff records.....jordan more finals records than kobe. jordan more 50 point games than kobe.....jordan more 40 point games than kobe....jordan more 30 point games than kobe.
jordan more 20 point games than kobe. jordan the most 50 point games in playoff history... jordan the most 40 point games in playoff history.....jordan the most 30 point games in playoff history....jordan the most 20 point games in playoff history.
jordan the highest assist average in finals history for a non point guard....jordan the olny player in playoff history to score 55 points in two quarters...jordan the only player in playoff histroy with 35 points in a half. do you see how many records jordan holds by his lomesome just in the playoffs?lmfao....kobe nowhere in sight like i said he isn't shit compared to jordan as a scorer you lose
jordan the highest scoring average of all time.....jordan the highest playoff scoring average of all time. jordan more scoring titles than any nba franchise....jordan more scoring records than any laker who has ever played basketball....23 in all that's the all time record.
jordan the only player in nba playoff history to average 56 points in the first two playoff games of a seriesjordan the highest playoff scoring average in the finals for a series.
all kobe's record are shared btw asshole none held by himself he has no all time scoring record therefore he isn nothing compared to jordan as a scorer you lose
jordan over 200 bulls scoring records... how many does kobe? have a measely 31 fuckin la laker records lmfao. jordan has more nba scoring records than all the lakers combined....not to mention he is the bulls scoring record holder....in ever conceivable way possible. kobe isn't even the greatest scorer for the lakers let alone in nba history he isn't shit
Kobe made 813 field goals and attempted 1757 field goals.Kobes field goal average was 46 percent. So on basically the exact same amount of shot attemptsJordan averaged the same amount of points as Kobe and made 177 more baskets than Kobe taking basically the same amount of shot attempts.
So on relatively the same amount of shot attempts Jordan averaged three more points than Kobe and made 166 more baskets than Kobe taking relatively the same amount of shot attemptspissing my self with laughter. Jordan missed 40 less shots than Kobe taking more attempts than Kobe.Kobe isnt shit as a scorer compared to Jordan
In the 2002 2003 season Kobe averaged 30 points per game on 23.5 shot attempts per game. Kobe made 868 field goals and attempted 1924 field goalsKobes field goal average was 45 percent.
In the 88 89 season Jordan averaged 32.5 points per game on 22.2 shots per game. Jordan made 966 field goals and attempted 1795 field goals Jordans field goal average was 54 percent.
jordan's career high in field goals is 49 against the magic...would you say the magic were better than the 19 win raptors? lmfao. if jordan ever picked a bad team and decided to shoot 47 times against them that's 100 plus for sure on 77 percent shooting fool. jordan has more scoring records than kobe it's not close....more playoff scoring records than kobe it's not close...more finals records than kobe it's not close you lose
In the 2000 2001 season Kobe averaged 28.5 points per game on 22.2 shot attempts per game. Kobe made 701 field goals and attempted 1510 field goals Kobes field goal average was 46 percent.
So on the same amount of shot attempts. Jordan averaged four more points than Kobeand made 265 more baskets than Kobe.taking the same amount of shot attempts roflmfao. Jordan missed 285 less shot attempts than Kobe taking the same amount of attempts as Kobe. Kobe is a fuckin pathetic scorer compared to Jordan
-81 points in a game -62 points in 33 minutes, outscoring dallas 62-61 -40 points in first 18 minutes of the game (42 at half) -4 straight 45+ point games -4 straight 50+ point games -9 straigh 40+ point games -13 straight 35+ point games -551 points in 13 games -43.4 ppg january 2006 -40.1 ppg april 2006 -42.4 ppg February 2003 -only player to score 2800 points and 180 threes in a season -92 Career 40+ point games -24 career 50+ point games -4 career 60+ point games
So all in all.Jordan has made in these specific exampleswhere both Kobe and Jordan attempted the same amount of shot attempts. 608 more shot attempts than Kobeand missed 405 less field goals than Kobe. Taking more or the same amount of shot attempts as Kobe. Once again Kobe isnt shit as a scorer compared to Jordan you fuckin lose little man
In the 89 90 season Jordan averaged 33.6 points per game on 24.0 shot attempts per game. Jordan made 1034 field goals and attempted 1964 field goals.Jordans field goal average was 53 percent.
In the 90 91 season Jordan averaged 31 points per game on 22.4 shot attempts per game. Jordan made 990 field goals and attempted 1837field goals.Jordans field goal average were 54 percent. In the 2006 2007 season Kobe averaged 31 points per game on 22.8 shot attempts per game.
Jordan missed 80 less shot attempts than Kobe taking the same amount of attempts as Kobewhile scoring the same amount of points as Kobe lmfao. Kobe is a fuckin joke and a piece of shit compared to Jordan as a scorer.
nah jordan didn't win the rings by himself...he just won all the finals mvps asshole....you know the award kobe never won on account of him being a flunkie during his championship runs lmfao dummy.
lmfao dan marjle would kill kobe on offense idiot....you think these morons who play now could hangout with jordan? lmfao you must be crazy. jordan shit slapped these loser two guards around....when he was 40 years old....he would demolish them when he was 25years old no question.
Jordan had every physical advantage given to him over Kobe. Handsize, leaping ability, quickness, etc, yet kobe has managed to do more with less. Kobe has small hands, he isnt' an elite 1 legged leaper.
Kobe has the least amount of god given ability between himself, lebron and Jordan, but he makes up for it with his work ethic.
btw moron hoops wasn't referring to what jordan could score....he was talking about the the scores that games would end in during the early 90s...when jordan retired you stupid fuck. when the knicks would slow the pace of games down to a grinding halt....and game scores would end in the 60s and 70 you dumb bitch learn nba history owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Shooting Guards (Swingmen): Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Allen Iverson, Manu Ginobili, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen, Michael Redd, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson, Brandon Roy, Vince, Carter, Michael Finely, J.R Smith, Sam Cassell, Leandro Barbosa, Raja Bell, Kevin Martin, Ben Gordan, Jamal Crawford, Anthony Parker, Bruce Bowen, Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse
Damn, the video totally shitted on the voice over. lmao Whoever did the commentating was a complete moron. Today's NBA = a free pass to the rim every time down the court and/or a foul. 80's-90's NBA was the shit, and not just because of Jordan but the overall competitiveness and toughness. Real rivalries, real heart on the floor every night. Players actually cared about winning and you'd have to fight them for every win, a lot of times literally. The NBA is so boring now.
DownloadDoctor1 8 months ago
i quote horace grant talking about mj `if you let him ride you, he'll ride you right out of the nba and out of your mind' mj was psychotic about winning. mj mentally demonlished TEAMMATES at practice, whadaya think he did to opponents? the entire NBA, INCLUDING HIS OWN TEAMMATES, were scared of him because of his mentality except bird magic & isiah; can you say that of any other athlete? if he trusted his team in 89 & 90 i believe 100% they would have won both rings; phil jackson convinced him
drsaberkhan 8 months ago
@drsaberkhan I read one article Grant responded to Pip's comment on LBJ, and Grant actually said MJ was so serious in practice, and that actually made his teammates better. In Pip's opinion, LBJ can get his teammates involved in game, but in Grant's opinion, MJ was better becoz he MADE his teammates better.
If a leader can make his teammates better, thats far more important than just get teammates involved in game, becoz they will automatically involved in game if they get better & better.
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang dude you wanna know how intense mj was in practice ? one incident was courtside, where he's on pippen and grants ass shouting at them fuming at the mouth shouting at cartwright. cartwright tries not to look at him and mj with one hand pulls him and puts a finger in his face. i could read his lips `hey dont you walk away this is a team'. his teammates were scared of it. it was like a cult and phil jackson was STANDING LIKE A PLAYER ON THE TEAM LISTENING TO MJ
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan the more powerful mj teamsmanship stories arent known: heres a few i idolise. hodges misses 2 consequtive 3s @atlanta. the skinny mj off rebounds HARD, gets double, tosses it to hodges. hodges hits a 2-jumper. on the inbound mj suddenly grabs the ball as its being passed to the atlanta pg and tosses it to hodges and says `hit the 3'. holds up 3 fingers. hodges just pauses, hits the 3. mj PUTS his hand on hodges' shoulder looks at atlanta's bench like `no one fucks with MY TEAM'
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan I know things happen to Kerr, Cartwright, Perdue, Brown, but never read anything you claim. But I know he is a damn serious person.
But Grant now said this is good and made them better, so I think those incidents not really happen very often, otherwise, the Bulls dynasty would never exist.
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang dude he hit kerr in the face in some practice and went to blows with him. he apologized and all that. he admitted it on espn. what he did to grant i saw with my own eyes. EVERYONE saw him coach shout at and boost up pippen on court all the time. remember when pippen was scoring and abusing mcdaniel offensively, so mcdaniel pushes pip who doesnt respond ? mj comes in the middle shouts at mcdaniel? eveyone could read mjs lips `fuck you' at mcdaniel
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan So you watched live game, I really like that game vs. NYK. MJ was really mean, I know it, in his biography, he said "don't pass to Perdue, he can't shoot" something like that. Kerr incident maybe the most serious, but somehow those teammates still respect him and can still play for years together and celebrate their winning. I mean MJ must have something let people want to follow him.
We saw Phil blame KB many time(even wrote book), but nothing bad happen to he and MJ.
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang it happened first with cartwright (according to a reporter catrwright threatened to break his legs after mj shouted at him) and purdue. mj was frustrated as hell 86-90. see he wanted the TEAM to win. theres one clip, i dont remember the game bro, he had pulled a double team and had the big out of position and had created a backdoor pass for some player i think it was a bencher. that moron didnt even move. mj just stood up cradling the hand in his left arm and looked at him
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan mj made kerr a great shooter-not skill, but by saying look ill get the guy off you, just stay close by. he taught pip every trick he never hid his tricks you know ? in 98 first game of mj vs kobe, kobe asked him how mj judged the defense when the back was turned. mj told him the truth, use your legs to feel it. we know how competitive mj was his teammates loved him cuz they knew he loved them the team not mj. 88 he was the pg he gave up shots to pass. he ALWAYS put the team first
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan mj also learned from everyone. he took lessons from pax and kerr very humbly. in practice you could see him mimicking hodges pax kerr. kobe doesnt have that teamsmanship yknow. mj ALWAYS did help d even when it meant 99% he was gonna be embarrassed. teammates loved that. he copied pips defense on pg's and the soft block and gave pip credit for it. 90+ he played offball cuz pip became a good ballhandler. when kb passed i felt there was some maliciousness in it..not with mj
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan so many reasons mjs mates loved him. he taught them, learnt from them, he always had their back on D, on offense, he left SG to be a PG, he left SG to be offballer in the triangle offense. and they saw him work on skills which helped the team. he gave up transition dunks to let someone else get the glory, he took IT PERSONALLY if someone was beating his teammate. it was always `dont mess with my mate'. how do you not love a teammate like that?
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@jimmychuang kobes a GREAT player but we all know he didnt like to pass to shaq, rice. he did it but didnt celebrate when they scored. mj celebrated everything his team did. by 90, mj always got his teammates in the game the 1st 3 quarters and took over in the 4th. he passed to kerr in 97 for the gamewinner instead of getting the glory. the look in his eye said `i knew you could do it!' kobe is and will be GREAT. but he never gave his game up or changed it for the team. phil blames him for that
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan Also Kobe always take more time to handle the ball, not like MJ, MJ has quicker reaction to the situation, when he doubled he can make decision pass or score in a sudden, but Kobe always handle the ball until he has no way to go. MJ is the one who has more FGA, but Phil never blame he about it, because he never break the triangle offense, he always in the system, but also do a lot of offense and very effective.
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang jimmy i dont blame kobe 2k-2k3, because the triangle offense is the most complicated play in bball. compared to the triangle, a screen/backdoor/1-2-2 are BABYSTEPS, they teach that in high school. the triange off started in the 40s but after russell and the focus on defense began in the nba, no one thought it was practical in the pros forget college or highschool. phil `i dare you'd' mj into doing it and what mj did everyone on bulls did. kobe NEVER PLAYED COLLEGE BASKETBALL
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan Not only KB, the whole Lakers can't play same triangle with 90s Bulls. Those old school players familiar with that kind of team play.
If you run triangle smoothly it is art.
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang the point of triangle offense is being unselfish being able to pass move without the ball without being predictable, to shoot when open or getting open needs 1 simple move. pass accurately, move without ball, receive ball, shoot or drive if the %s are good, else pass or move with the ball and set up another triangle. it sounds so simple but you cant double team any of the 3 active guys without spreading the floor and allowiing the passives to get a backdoor; real team spirit
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@jimmychuang btw jimmy mj was neurotic about winning, he is my idol but i know that about him and me. i am not biased i know my idol and his weaknesses. phils getting mj to believe him made him the ringleader by being chief adviser of the king. now shaq hero worshipped mj, so he listened to phil immediately when he came to LA. phil expected kobe to do so, like pip did. kobe didnt care. and i never felt he BELIEVED the triangle was anything but coaching red tape. i blame phil as well
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan ofcourse kobe takes blame, but phil wasnt such a smily nice guy. he wanted total belief everyone had to believe him. he got JORDAN to listen to him, and this brat comes along who is nothing and he aint listening to shaq who was the man since mj left. all those shaq-kobe wars were just the surface representation of the the real fight which was phil-kobe (everyone was on phils side). kobe felt `i can score faster' he HAS NEVER BELIEVED IN or depended on team help if you notice.
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan i also think and this is conjecture, kbs idea of the triangle may have been presumed by hs dad cuz the nba 70s triple post (triangles name then) had a rep of being the unathletic players' game. and the triangle neeeded unselfishness. as a young guy who can dunk and dribble thats like a regime that says dont do anything you want. it comes out of playing highschool where heroball is necessary. odom is a modern day pip btw notice how he struggles with the triangle as well
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan now odoms not selfish you say. YES EXACTLY! he still struggles the reason is there are set plays in the triangle, the ball can go anywhere, its not ok were going to kobe its using any defensive space while setting up various triangles side to side. odoms not selfish but he suffers. i dont know odoms history but i BET he didnt play college either. and unlike kobe, mj took pride in passing and making a fool of the opponent. he enjoyed it. kobe doesnt. he puts scoring over everything
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan btw id suggest you stop referring to phil as coach and just call him the ringmaster. cuz he wasnt the playmaking guy. that was ALLL tex on offense. on defense it was really the pip-jordan show. another reason jordan played the triangle was he got his dunks on transition which he did A LOT. took the need to showboat out. jordan was schooled in fundamentals in college kobe didnt get the chance. btw tex was always unhappy with mj not passing taking bad shots (even the ones he hit :)
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan yeah I know one time MJ scored 19 pts in last 6 mins and Bulls won, Text told him "there is no I in team", MJ replied "there is I in WIN"
They fight but not break their relations, they still happily work together. They built a great team, no fight can take that away.
But not in Lakers, in Lakers there always have some problem, if Kobe is there. First with Shaq, in their struggle 3 yrs, Phil, and Kobe's teammates unhappy to him, and then last season, they fuck up again
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang he said that in his HOF speech we never saw that in the footage though it was 96 i think. against vancouver or against toronto pip was on the bench. shaq didnt wanna be coached he had problems with penny hardaway and phil and tex too. but they all adapted. hell shaq adapted and kobe didnt. eventually kobe did love tex and phil but kobe was never ready to give up the gifts he had for the team. thats a big mental thing in my opinion & why phil criticised kobe
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
@drsaberkhan I remember KB had several seasons his FGA more than Shaq, in one or two season his FGA more than Shaq but PPG lower than Shaq.
If prime Shaq is there, no way KB should be 1st offense player in his team because Shaq is a more effective offense player. And opponent always double and triple him, he can create huge opportunity for outside players.
jimmychuang 7 months ago
@jimmychuang tex doug collins phil and every other critic always talked about how damn long kobe took to make a decision even after he was in position to make a play for others. he preffered to jump and shoot ? what did it get him? undoubtedly from all the players ive ever seen the best shooter with a hand in his face and offbalance beyond 16 feet, and a horrible efficiency as well as teammates who are pissed off. but as someone said thats kobe at least hes not pretending
drsaberkhan 7 months ago
What some people dont' know is that the lack of physicality not only counts for players when they have the ball, but without it as well. Whenever Jordan is trying to get into position, he's got his defender literally on him and at times there is a line where the guy can take a cheap shot at him if he wants to and a foul may not be called.
newagepun 1 year ago
"LOL bruce bowen premiere defender of all time."
Maybe the only guy who played defense like they did compared to the kids now who can care only about scoring in their next possession.
newagepun 1 year ago
The voice on this video is a fuckin moron the nba now is so much easier & soft. kobe is a very good player but MJ great he isn't.
rob23molina 1 year ago
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KamalAkaBeLikeKobe 1 year ago
kb42pah. sits in kobe's toilet and eats his shit. defending kobe on youtube is really just a small favour.lol
DevornCauser 1 year ago
@hangtime23ful Oh okay gotcha bro. Can you please give me the name of the other video or the name of the persons channel that made the other video you are talking about please. People love to say that jordan did not get doubled or tripple teamed but i know it's not true because i use to watch his games back in the day.
hitthedeck245 1 year ago
@hitthedeck245 in fact it was EASIER to double team then since all you gotta do was body up on Jordan and the moment he made a move, have your teammate cut him off as well. Hell if Jordan tried to score in the post the defenders collapse on him. The bigs can camp inside while the PG and wing try pester him from the perimeter. And he already makes you pay by trying to play him close enough because he'll make that shot. Not like Kobe who is either hot or cold at times.
newagepun 1 year ago
Wait a minute why is this guy that uploaded this video saying kobe's name when it is jordon in the video getting double and tripled team?
hitthedeck245 1 year ago
No player has ever faced the kind of pressure kobe is under every year. win one without shaq (CHECK) must beat the Celtics (CHECK) all this with a fucked up finger and knee that had to be drained. GIVE THE GUY SOME FUCKING CREDIT!!
BeasTxMode2000 1 year ago
@BeasTxMode2000 I give kobe credit......but he ain't as good as jordan was.
imsljr420 1 year ago
@BeasTxMode2000 Sorry, Kobe has yet carry his team from a pivotal do-or-die game with a flu playing against very competent defenses. Or face against one of the best physical defenses the NBA has ever assembled, the Detroit Pistons of the late 80's. He's never met a foul where he would shrug off either, and would instead complain to the zebras why he didn't get a call.
Kobe gets enough credit. Its nuthuggers like you who exaggerate it too much.
newagepun 1 year ago
how come jordan misses on most of your clips? Were those the only ones you could find with that kind of defense?
BeasTxMode2000 1 year ago
kobe>jordan
BeasTxMode2000 1 year ago
@aznguy24
lol@ this guy posting this a year ago, yeah since that hes won back to back championships talk shit now.
Power2People59 1 year ago
Bill Simmon is a Celtics lover, so quoting him is unfair.
Civsuccess2 1 year ago
good vid who is the tard that thinks jordan actually played one on one
crayrayc 1 year ago
Basketball is basketball ppl make their analysis too deep, the point is u can't compare eras MJ and KB r both great I think they oth do things better than the other but not by much margin. MJ played against more physical defenses but Kobe plays against better athletes. its like u have 2picc ur poison. Kobe plays against harder competition
zelle908 2 years ago
@zelle908 No, Kobe does not play against harder competition, and Jordan played against tremendous athletes as well. Yes, there are many great players in all eras, Kobe is one of them. But there is only one GOAT, and that's Jordan. Kobe can't sniff that.
utfanatic2000 1 year ago
kobe>jordan
zakeer13 2 years ago
in what way?
sopa71479 2 years ago
@sopa71479 basketball way...
zakeer13 2 years ago
can you be more specific? kobe a better shooter? not really when mj shot a way better fg% than kb
sopa71479 2 years ago
@sopa71479 ALOT BETTER OVERALL BASKETBALL PLAYER!!!
zakeer13 2 years ago
where in offense? jordan is a better quality shooter. On defense? MJ was Defensive player of the year, something kobe has never done. Try again buddy
sopa71479 2 years ago
@sopa71479 maybe he was in that time but he wouldnt be if he was in the nba now.......
zakeer13 2 years ago
actually he would have an easier time because of the no handcheck rule and the 3 sec defensive rule thats in play right now. Jordan played in a tougher more physical era
sopa71479 2 years ago
@sopa71479
KOBE>JORDAN
zakeer13 2 years ago
not really
sopa71479 2 years ago
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KOBE>JORDAN
zakeer13 2 years ago
nope if you actually watched mj play you would know the difference
sopa71479 2 years ago
@zakeer13 No, Kobe is definitely not a better basketball player than Jordan. The only thing Kobe does slightly better is shoot 3s in the regular season. Jordan was as good or better in every aspect of the game, was a FAR better leader, far better big game performer. Basically, in Kobe we are seeing a "watered down" version of the GOAT, MJ.
utfanatic2000 1 year ago
@utfanatic2000 i see you still takin down these Kobetards like Bruce Blitz be saying huh? These youngstas are really omitted the great accomplishments that MJ concieved in order to pro-create players like Kobe Bryant and i say pro-create because he is the father so to speak of Post MJ era Basketball, including this era and players have patterned their game after Mj, not all, but a significant estimate....
80s90sRealBasketball 1 year ago
wondering who translated this shit to chinese. not readable, done by some software? and why saying kobe and vib is all mj? some kind of art is this?
roy1015 2 years ago
lol! great video!
YoungTon22 2 years ago
funny sayin kobe instead of jordan, and using current nba players, pass to ronny turiaf, lmao.
jordan > kobe > thomas clark
ballinforkeeps 2 years ago 2
Kobe would of turned out a lot like Grant Hill did good solid player with potential just prone to injury, which ruin his career.
nvvm 2 years ago
The Kobe commentary is a turn off...
spitnificent 2 years ago
He used the Kobe commentary to make fun of KB42PAH's "Kobe Bryant vs Zone Defense" video.
LakersDynasty42 2 years ago 7
Thanks for clarifying for me.
spitnificent 2 years ago
BRavo Jordanhair!
hoovinc 2 years ago 3
Like this vid but the Kobe commentary ruined it for me since the dude talking is selling Kobe tickets with Jordan's legacy as if he's the original...
spitnificent 2 years ago
excuse me *proving that
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago
thank thank thank you for proving to that uneducated fool wrong. This video is awesome and the way you dubbed his voice over classic. I actually presented the argument if zone defense was so effective how come 40 year old MJ averaged over 20 PPG in 2003. Needless to say KB42PAH no longer allows me to comment on his page lol.
GoingOn9Lives 2 years ago 2
Haha, listen to that Kobe idiot.
DigitalRosh 2 years ago
BrettCarr, so dumb, so dumb. Look at the "cupcakes" Kobe faces, guys like Pietrus, JJ Reddick, Courtney Lee, Kyle Korver, Marco Jaric, 6'1" Anthony Carter, J.R. Smith, Kirk Hinrich. Get real kid. Jordan faced tougher defense and dominated more than Kobe. Jordan only faced isolation? lol, you idiot. The video you just commented on proves you wrong! BrettCarr=Grade A moron.
utfanatic2000 2 years ago
UT still holding it down. Keep it up. These cats just do not know how great Jordan was and will always be. I like Kobe but his legacy does not stand the test of time to Mikes. Not close. Too bad most people do not see that.
chitownmo 2 years ago
Fuck the rules. Let's just turn back time when basketball was invented and disallow people to even move when they have the ball. Passing only. Oh, and like 3 substitutions.
ShowtimePanda 2 years ago
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ylt34c...LOL..LOL...Jordan faced CUPCAKES..EHLO, RICE, STARKS, Mike MCGEE, RORY SPARROW, JeffHornacek?..CUPCAKES...Kobe Faces MEGASTARS like Lebron, WADE, IVERSON, McGRADY, Vince CARTER, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Melo, Manu Ginobli,..Jordan faced Man to Man defenses where Isolation plays left Jordan 1 on 1 with CUPCAKES LIKE EHLO, STARKS, and HORNACEK
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
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ylt34c...LOL..LOL...Jordan faced CUPCAKES..EHLO, RICE, STARKS, Mike MCGEE, RORY SPARROW, JeffHornacek?..CUPCAKES...Kobe Faces MEGASTARS like Lebron, WADE, IVERSON, McGRADY, Vince CARTER, Paul Pierce, Ron Artest, Melo, Manu Ginobli,..Jordan faced Man to Man defenses where Isolation plays left Jordan 1 on 1 with CUPCAKES LIKE EHLO, STARKS, and HORNACEK
bretcarr2001 2 years ago
Michael Jordan scored over 50 in 3 quarters a bunch of times. Notably, against Miami in the 92 playoffs. The he finiched with 56 but he only score 2 in the first quater and the 69 points game against Cleveland he scored 51 in 3 quarters
Spectrum06 2 years ago 3
huh? Jordan shot 3PTers at just a clip beneath Kobe. Jordan .327 career, Kobe .340. In the playoffs, Jordan actually shot 3Pters better than Kobe. Defense was much more physical in MJ's era and defenders were given more capable to defend on the perimeter. The nba purposely got rid of perimeter handchecking to allow easier scoring and to better allow perimeter athletes to showcase their athleticism. Meaning...MJ would be even deadlier under today's rules.
utfanatic2000 2 years ago 5
Watch the whole video. The poster uses the voice of another poster who posted a video claiming Kobe faced tougher defense than MJ faced. This video completely proves that guy wrong and proves that Jordan faced everything Kobe faces, and more!
utfanatic2000 2 years ago 3
with jordanhair's permission, i upload this to PAH's "kobe vs zone" video as a response and every single time i do it PAH deletes it. LOL. that dude is crazy. he is so allergic to the truth.
rsx2 2 years ago 3
/watch?v=4kYBeNQdSCc&feature=related
He took the commentary from this video and proved him wrong by showing footage contradicting the whole arguement of this guy.... I don't think anyone with this much Jordan footage would call him Kobe lol
jemcee 2 years ago
what a hacker! you obviously used CGI and fake commentary, lol
blacknapalm 3 years ago
the truth must come to light
Jordan is the GOAT
qzx3 3 years ago
really great video.
worldsmost 3 years ago
Michael is head and shoulders above the league( in the golden era of basketball) - Magic Johnson
how about the league now???
mj would have been stomping on todays league.
hPeAiUdLe 3 years ago 5
MJ is practically the 2nd most double teamed player in history next to SHAQ.
from my point of view a 40 year old MJ could score against a 23 year old Kobe but a 40 year old kobe could not even dribble against a 23 year old MJ no question about that one on one.
hPeAiUdLe 3 years ago 15
Those Lakers fans just so blind to see outside the box.
I don't know Harper is stammer
jimmychuang 3 years ago
The era we are in now in basketball is all isolation !!!!! LOL thats hallarious.
Bigturns33 3 years ago
KOBE PWNED!
mikedamz 3 years ago 3
LMAO
great job you owned kb42pah
anyways was wrong with trying to contain another teams star player teams do it all the time !!!
Idiot Kobe Jockers
escobar60099 3 years ago 3
I love this video!!! THANK THE LORD.....I love how it mocks the dude who claims Jordan never saw zone lol....no disrespect to Kobe...he's the closest thing to Jordan...and thats y i love him....but he aint MJ....not yet at least.
rnufrio720 3 years ago 4
i feel u on dat
Reigns20 3 years ago
that's ron harper awesome player b4 he had knee problems
imsljr420 3 years ago
Playing in the 80's and 90's made Jordan a tougher and more efficient player. I think the players now that get a lot of superstar calls would be a lot better if they had to play against defenses like this because it would make them more efficient.
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
Anyone that says Kobe is better than Jordan is crazy. Jordan averaged 28/6/5 as a rookie!
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago 2
Thats even funnier when you go and compare those numbers to Kobes MVP year last year...About as close to identical as you can get and Jordan was a rookie.
cdbleb3 3 years ago
I wish I could have seen him in the 80's!
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago 2
Unfortunately I was too young to catch Michael when he first entered the league, I mean I can remember watching games and hearing people talk about Jordan but I started watching the NBA while actually being able to understand what was going on around 88. Ive done as much research as I could and watched as many games as I could from Michaels early years but its just not the same as getting to talk about it the day after it happens.
cdbleb3 3 years ago
Yeah I know.
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
Did you stop watching the NBA all together?
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
They can play without the ball.
LakersDynasty42 3 years ago
Great work
gamachy 3 years ago
The funny thing is where is Pah to refute any of this and who cares if its BruceBlitz.
RohoicRamz94 3 years ago
nobody takes pride in playing defense in the league anymore because defense isnt pretty, dont believe me? look at the all star games since 2005 he all star game itself has become nothing more than a dunk contest.
sopa71479 3 years ago
i'm talking about LBJ>KB.
i didn'e say this year,last year.
IMO LBJ>KB.
michalus 3 years ago
This video utterly destroys kb42pah's lies and claims that Jordan was not doubled teamed and trapped and that he did not face the same so called zones that Kobe faced. if kb42pah wants to claim that...this is the kind of defense Kobe faces in this day and time....then he can't get around this video....which shows the exact same examples for Jordan.....only they are much more vivid and frequent in Jordans case that faggot kb42pah loses lmfao
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 4
What I love about this video is that it proves Jordan was doubled and tripled WITHOUT the ball!!! KB42PAH claims this never happened bc it was illegal. Yep, it was illegal, but it happened all the time. KB42PAH==owned!
utfanatic2000 3 years ago 4
then what jordanhair did was use the same example's kb42pah did in his Kobe videoonly this time he showed Jordan getting doubled and triple teamedin the time that he played inwhich that moron kb42pah claimed never happened.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
This video is based on a completely false premise, that today's defense is better than that of Jordan's day. This is completely opposite of the truth, especially on the perimeter. Read the truth about "The death of defense": hoopshype*com/articles/defense_lazenby*htm
utfanatic2000 3 years ago
Hey utfanatic, this guy who posted this video meant the video to be sarcastic. First what he did was use that morons kb42pah's actual voice to narrate the video. That voice is from the video kb42pah did which supposedly showed that Kobe has to go up against tougher defense than Jordan.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 3
You're right, this is actually very well done!
utfanatic2000 3 years ago
Jordan GOAT...it's not close.
utfanatic2000 3 years ago
我们明明在嬉戏和搅基．．．
Jordanhair 3 years ago
把鸟语学好干嘛．．我们要多多发扬我天朝大国的深厚的语言文化．
Jordanhair 3 years ago
明明是他让我们囧啊．．
Jordanhair 3 years ago
中国人和中国人间就用不着打鸟语了．．
Jordanhair 3 years ago
gret vid once again
shine2345 3 years ago
In fact,if some of these clips here aren't "zone"(they are not ,they are really double team),you shouldn't call some of the clips "zone" in your video too because they are almost the same.And you continued to say "zone""zone""zone"there.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
..and let me tell u that u should worry about LBJ couse i think He is better then Kobe...Jordan will stay on the top of the game till last shot will be make.
michalus 3 years ago 2
OMG
u talk about killer instinct in that cry baby?
Kobe is fragile and soft..he's not even fast...he's nowhere near Michael.
i'm Kobe fan i like watch him play but....
more moves?
is this comedy central or mad tv?
kobe wants to be like Mike so he copy his moves and Michael teach him a couple.
Michael never was about points He was always about wins.
michalus 3 years ago
jordan the highest playoff scoring game in playoff history.... jordan the most three point field goals made in a half in finals history.....jordan the only player in playoff history with back to back 50 point games.....jordan the only player in playoff history to average over 40 points in five different playoff series.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
jordan more records than any laker or player in nba history 70 nba records....jordan more playoff records than any laker or player who has ever played 40 plus playoff records.....jordan more finals records than kobe. jordan more 50 point games than kobe.....jordan more 40 point games than kobe....jordan more 30 point games than kobe.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
6 times in Kobe's Career he has had 50+ points in 3 quarters or less. One time he had 49 , so almost 7 times.
51 points in 31 minutes vs nuggets ( DNP in 4th)
62 points in 32 minutes vs mavs (DNP in 4th)
56 points in 34 minutes vs grizzlies (DNP In 4th)
52 vs Jazz in 3 quarters ( DNP in 4th)
All of those could have been 70 or 80 point games but Phil sat Kobe on bench.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
It's no need for you to post statistics here too.
I know every statistics and every record of kobe in detail.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
Ok relax, im just telling that waffleirontmacpat guy cuz he talks alot of trash.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
jordan more 20 point games than kobe. jordan the most 50 point games in playoff history... jordan the most 40 point games in playoff history.....jordan the most 30 point games in playoff history....jordan the most 20 point games in playoff history.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
jordan the highest assist average in finals history for a non point guard....jordan the olny player in playoff history to score 55 points in two quarters...jordan the only player in playoff histroy with 35 points in a half. do you see how many records jordan holds by his lomesome just in the playoffs?lmfao....kobe nowhere in sight like i said he isn't shit compared to jordan as a scorer you lose
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 2
michael jordan the only player in nba finals playoff history to score 35 points in a half
michael jordan six three's in a half all time nba finals record
michael jordan only player in nba playoff history history with back to back 50 point games
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
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Jordan has about 68 major records in NBA history.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
jordan the highest scoring average of all time.....jordan the highest playoff scoring average of all time. jordan more scoring titles than any nba franchise....jordan more scoring records than any laker who has ever played basketball....23 in all that's the all time record.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
jordan the only player in nba playoff history to average 56 points in the first two playoff games of a seriesjordan the highest playoff scoring average in the finals for a series.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
all kobe's record are shared btw asshole none held by himself he has no all time scoring record therefore he isn nothing compared to jordan as a scorer you lose
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 4
You sound butthurt
KB42PAH 3 years ago
jordan over 200 bulls scoring records... how many does kobe? have a measely 31 fuckin la laker records lmfao. jordan has more nba scoring records than all the lakers combined....not to mention he is the bulls scoring record holder....in ever conceivable way possible. kobe isn't even the greatest scorer for the lakers let alone in nba history he isn't shit
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
200 bulls scoring records for MJ is not suprising.
Chicago was a shitty franchise before him, and its a shitty franchise after him.
Lakers are a pereniall all-time franchise with other greats other than kobe like : shaq, kareem, magic, west, wilt, etc.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
michael jordan only player in nba playoff history to score 63 points in a playoff game
michael jordan only player in nba playoff history to average 40 plus points in five different playoff series
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
michael jordan the most 50 point playoff games of all time
michael jordan the most 40 point playoff games of all time
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
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michael jordan the most 30 point playoff games of all time
michael jordan the most 20 point playoff games of all time
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
michael jordan 43 points in two quarters
micheal jordan 56 in two quarters
michael jordan 53 in two quarters
michael jordan 39 points in two quarters at least four different times
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
Kobe made 813 field goals and attempted 1757 field goals.Kobes field goal average was 46 percent. So on basically the exact same amount of shot attemptsJordan averaged the same amount of points as Kobe and made 177 more baskets than Kobe taking basically the same amount of shot attempts.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
I'm also a laker fan during 1998~2001 so I have watched kobe for a long time.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
Why did you stop in 2001? You didnt' stay for the threepeat? lol
KB42PAH 3 years ago
So on relatively the same amount of shot attempts Jordan averaged three more points than Kobe and made 166 more baskets than Kobe taking relatively the same amount of shot attemptspissing my self with laughter. Jordan missed 40 less shots than Kobe taking more attempts than Kobe.Kobe isnt shit as a scorer compared to Jordan
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
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In the 2002 2003 season Kobe averaged 30 points per game on 23.5 shot attempts per game. Kobe made 868 field goals and attempted 1924 field goalsKobes field goal average was 45 percent.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
In the 88 89 season Jordan averaged 32.5 points per game on 22.2 shots per game. Jordan made 966 field goals and attempted 1795 field goals Jordans field goal average was 54 percent.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
jordan's career high in field goals is 49 against the magic...would you say the magic were better than the 19 win raptors? lmfao. if jordan ever picked a bad team and decided to shoot 47 times against them that's 100 plus for sure on 77 percent shooting fool. jordan has more scoring records than kobe it's not close....more playoff scoring records than kobe it's not close...more finals records than kobe it's not close you lose
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 2
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Kobe is 30 dude, he will play for another 6 seasons in his prime. Give it time.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
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In the 2000 2001 season Kobe averaged 28.5 points per game on 22.2 shot attempts per game. Kobe made 701 field goals and attempted 1510 field goals Kobes field goal average was 46 percent.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
So on the same amount of shot attempts. Jordan averaged four more points than Kobeand made 265 more baskets than Kobe.taking the same amount of shot attempts roflmfao. Jordan missed 285 less shot attempts than Kobe taking the same amount of attempts as Kobe. Kobe is a fuckin pathetic scorer compared to Jordan
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
KB42PAH 3 years ago
So all in all.Jordan has made in these specific exampleswhere both Kobe and Jordan attempted the same amount of shot attempts. 608 more shot attempts than Kobeand missed 405 less field goals than Kobe. Taking more or the same amount of shot attempts as Kobe. Once again Kobe isnt shit as a scorer compared to Jordan you fuckin lose little man
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
and yet still has not scrathed the surface on what mj has accomplished. i dont his statistics can mj's great stats can fill this little box
jjutube07 3 years ago
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In the 89 90 season Jordan averaged 33.6 points per game on 24.0 shot attempts per game. Jordan made 1034 field goals and attempted 1964 field goals.Jordans field goal average was 53 percent.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
In the 90 91 season Jordan averaged 31 points per game on 22.4 shot attempts per game. Jordan made 990 field goals and attempted 1837field goals.Jordans field goal average were 54 percent. In the 2006 2007 season Kobe averaged 31 points per game on 22.8 shot attempts per game.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 2
Jordan missed 80 less shot attempts than Kobe taking the same amount of attempts as Kobewhile scoring the same amount of points as Kobe lmfao. Kobe is a fuckin joke and a piece of shit compared to Jordan as a scorer.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago
Jordan was the most fundamentally sound player when he played. Today Kobe is the most fundamentally sound player.
You see guys like Lebron and Wade - they still can't shoot and its sad because they lack the overall game.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
I know you are not a hater.
Jordan is one of your favorate players.
You=high IQ
You=Truth
You=Objective
Kobe=Low IQ but Goat
Right?
HaHa.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
hmmmm
KB42PAH 3 years ago
Mix?
Mix means nothing.
Game by game? Too much time.
Finally,The NewYork Times didn't lie.
Jordanhair 3 years ago
nah jordan didn't win the rings by himself...he just won all the finals mvps asshole....you know the award kobe never won on account of him being a flunkie during his championship runs lmfao dummy.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 2
Yeah when you play against Dan Marjle, Byron Russel, Gary Payton and other unathletic players and midgets you should win finals mvps.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
lmfao dan marjle would kill kobe on offense idiot....you think these morons who play now could hangout with jordan? lmfao you must be crazy. jordan shit slapped these loser two guards around....when he was 40 years old....he would demolish them when he was 25years old no question.
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 4
Jordan had every physical advantage given to him over Kobe. Handsize, leaping ability, quickness, etc, yet kobe has managed to do more with less. Kobe has small hands, he isnt' an elite 1 legged leaper.
Kobe has the least amount of god given ability between himself, lebron and Jordan, but he makes up for it with his work ethic.
KB42PAH 3 years ago
Shooting over 40% in 3 ptrs: MJ 2 > KB 0
Shooting over 37% in 3 ptrs: MJ 4 > KB 1
Shooting over 35% in 3 ptrs: MJ 5 > KB 2
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 3
btw moron hoops wasn't referring to what jordan could score....he was talking about the the scores that games would end in during the early 90s...when jordan retired you stupid fuck. when the knicks would slow the pace of games down to a grinding halt....and game scores would end in the 60s and 70 you dumb bitch learn nba history owned!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waffIelrontmacsplat 3 years ago 3
2000-present:
Shooting Guards (Swingmen): Kobe Bryant, Dwyane Wade, Allen Iverson, Manu Ginobili, Joe Johnson, Rip Hamilton, Ray Allen, Michael Redd, Gilbert Arenas, Jason Richardson, Brandon Roy, Vince, Carter, Michael Finely, J.R Smith, Sam Cassell, Leandro Barbosa, Raja Bell, Kevin Martin, Ben Gordan, Jamal Crawford, Anthony Parker, Bruce Bowen, Jason Terry, Jerry Stackhouse
KB42PAH 3 years ago
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JordanHair you did a good job with this video..I thought it was well made.
But to be honest, there is no zone in this video. Just typical fundamental helpside defense - which has always been legal. Doubles are allowed in