@vinciennn Hmm what would Allah do to Christians... Oh yeah, send you to hell, even some denominations of christianity send other Christians to hell (westboro, certain baptist & Catholics, the KKK is self acclaimed a Christian organization) this is more than just a one horse race. And wouldn't a benevolent god judge on the true good of the person rather than faith
Being Atheist is Afterlife suicide. The biggest loss for a Christian when he/she dies, and is wrong, is nothing. Nothing will happen to them. Only cease to exist. But lets say the Atheist dies and is wrong? They go to hell. Who is really the biggest LOSER?
If this is meant as satire, then it was mildly entertaining and you can ignore the rest of my comment.
If it wasn't, then this is completely false. You failed to bring up the atheists that have been more successful in debunking theist claims, such as: Thunderf00t, AronRa, Andromidaswake, Potholer54, Theoreticalbullshit and DonExodus.
If you wish to make a claim, don't use a bias sample to support the said claim.
I don' like this video. It tries to trumpet what we are doing off as the moral high ground. We should be concerned with the truth not just the high ground.
@imrational I don't actually think it's a matter of could be mistaken when it comes to any of the gods humanity has invented over the centuries. I think it's been shown that Thor, Zeus, Yahweh, Baal, Vishnu, Allah, and other such gods are all demonstrably false.
I'm only advocating that staying on a high horse is going to only make it harder for Theists to take any criticism honestly and seriously. In the end I'd rather get the truth out there then just sound smart any day of the week.
Although I think we shouldn't put theists too much on the defensive by insulting them (putting people on the defensive frequently just hardens them in their beliefs), I think some light teasing is more than okay. Heck, I'd appreciate some teasing of atheists if it were done intelligently.
Also, I appreciate the compliment, but I don't really think this video would count as "sounding smart". It's a pretty silly video.
Not really relevant to the matter and one enormous fallacy but.... hell yeah, that sounds right :p
Also remark on how atheists try to enlight people with knowledge and education while creationists and theist prefer to accuse those who have failed to believe in their god of being satanists and condemn them to eternal pain and hell... well, anyway, it doesn't make the point either but, you know... makes you wonder who the good guys are :p
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okay this is why atheists have no real proof of there being no god. in videos such as these, although some are more serious atheist videos than these, they DO NOT use logical evidence to back up their theory. why is this? because there IS NO logical evidence to support that there is no god. so therefore, atheism has no evidence and never will have good evidence to support their fallible, inconsistent theory.
@imrational "Anything COULD be true. I merely lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for the existence of one."
This would make you more an agnostic. If you are saying that you are not an agnostic then you actually believe or highly doubt there is no god. Then though you say anything is possible you highly doubt it in this instance.
Gnosticism/Agnosticism speaks to KNOWLEDGE. Do you KNOW that a god exists? I am agnostic about the existence of a god (I don't know if one exists, but admit one COULD exist).
Theism/Atheism speaks to BELIEF. Do you BELIEVE that a god exists. I am an atheist. I lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for said theory.
This makes me an "Agnostic Atheist" also known as a "weak atheist".
@imrational "I lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for said theory."
I am trying to understand. You are saying that a testable theory with supporting evidence requires belief? or that is creates belief? Are you then saying that belief is knowledge? What about facts? They simply are. My understanding is that facts do not require belief. So do you lack belief of any kind? This would eliminate all philosophical notions.
@imrational Congrats dude on being part agnostic because that's the only way there will be no fighting over what is god and what isn't and there fore would make life easier for people like you and me not having to argue our cases on what -we- yes -we- believe in and not being forced something we don't want by being yelled at of something existing.
@imrational - That would be agnosticism, not atheism. If you are going to defend an entire philosophy, the very least you could do for it, is first understand it's definition in a dictionary. Don't you agree? Or is that too much to ask from a "rational" person?
u must research yourself, i know you dont believe it, u should see any website for show punish grave with atheism ,
like example u cannot hear punish grave but dog donkey animal can hear it can see angel jinn but human cannot see angel jinn becuase allah created it,
@LProck4everGD1 You can't disprove a negative. I'm actually NOT an atheist. I've had personal experience with the "spiritual". However their logic is flawless. Yours? Not so much.
There is no such animal as flawless logic. Logic requires a point of view. A point of view requires a particular philosophical belief about reality. Since there are countless viewpoints and possibilities and no one has the answers everyone is on equal footing. To believe otherwise is not logical. See how that works? You must accept the logic, which requires belief.
@Twicebakedtaters Just because two viewpoints exist, does not make them equal. Most modern atheists base their arguments on the real world that can be seen, touched and heard. Since there is no physical evidence whatsoever, of a "God", they choose not to believe until such evidence comes to light. Sorry, that logical argument vs. I believe because you can't prove the pink unicorn DOESN'T exist, is, in fact, flawless. I may have experienced, spirit but I'm under no illusion that it's logical.
@seeqer66 "Just because two viewpoints exist, does not make them equal." Who is to say? What is equal is a point of view based on a belief in a point of view.
Which can't be proven, but must be posited like any god. So what is logical? The answer to that is whatever one believes. Self confirming circular logic.
@LProck4everGD1 Well they need no evidence to prove there is no god because if there were evidence they wouldn't be athiest and since your flinging that bit around why no tshow the evidence of there being a god
We gotta keep speaking this truth loud and clear. Don't back down, don't back off. Let's keep stripping off the lies and hypocrisy of many who espouse Evolution as Science (which it is not) and the truth of the Living God and Creator as false (which is Imperially improvable). Though we do not hide the fact that our belief in God is faith. But faith that fits the facts. Evolution does and will not fit the facts. Evolution is faith based on lies!!!!
This kind of response always puzzles me... I'm amazed and I laughed out loud, thinking it was sarcasm (it HAS to be) then remember how theists react to evidence and pause...
The fact the Creator cannot be proven wrong doesn't mean he can be proven right.
No race ever spawned without evolving from somewhere else.
Lying is more a thing of faith (you have to make up something, THEN beileve in it). Science analyzes, extrapolates a theory and proves it.
this video makes sense the bible I think served as a moral compass so that people would live in harmony but as history proves it has done exactly the opposite , but its sad how atheists have no hope at all , no reason to live a moral life except that they can live a short life with nothing to look forward to
Loved the video. That is the reason why I chose my name and channel icon. Because I believe the atheists are trying to save mankind from the darkness of belief, why not have heroic YouTube name to help with fight.
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hehe, this video makes me laugh, Atheists take in so much pride in being somewhat "better" than us Christians, especially calling us "bad guys"...you're pretty much called 70% of America "bad guys," gosh maybe you guys should think before you say
Glad the vid made you laugh... it was just a joke. As to 70% of America being "bad guys", ask most evangelical followers and they'd say that there were far more bad guys corrupted by Satan than 70%
Lol. No one is born any religion. As you grow up and are brain washed by your family and church, that's when you become Christian.And I said you should've thought about it first because now your life is based on something non existant. Sorry for your luck :/
Look, I don't see what gives you the right to call what I believe in wrong. Everyone is intitled to believe what they want. If you want me to give you my proof of God. Just pm me. You do not have to though.
We live in a universe that appears to have naturalistic laws and operates under the rules of logic. If your beliefs go contrary to them, then people could call you "wrong".
Of course, people could call you wrong under freedom of speech and just leave it at that as well ;)
@imrational Absence of evidence may not be evidence of absence, but the PRESENCE of simple, rational explanations for how things work IS evidence for absence of magical causes for those things. God might exists, but he created all 80 Billion galaxies nearly 15 BYA and does not go around murdering stone aged people in the desert.
That's where I have the right to call what you believe in wrong. And you have the right to call me wrong for not believing. But when you do, I'm going to ask you for proof, and you're going to repeat some tired argument that has been discredited thousands of times before, because that's all you have.
How is it that nonsymmetrical asteroids that "conveniently" smashed together to create perfect spheres (especially one with, plants, water, and life) could've happened?
Asteroids smashing together is not convenience, but gravitation.
They didn't form spheres. Earth is not a sphere, or even an ellipsoid. There are mountains, valleys, chasms, craters, and vast irregularities. But again, gravity crushes things down to approximations of ellipsoids.
It didn't have plants and life when it formed, but it did have water. Water is quite common in space.
Because I have no pre-founded belief that resists all evidence to the contrary, I will be open if a god ever does appear. If god DOES appear, but isn't the god YOU want, you'll still reject Him for not happening the way your religion said.
The correct response to "I know something." is "How do you know? What evidence do you have?"
The correct response to that is "I have this evidence, and a theory which makes predictions and is falsifiable. You can test it by doing this, and if it ever doesn't work, I'm wrong."
If we put an apple into the air and it doesn't fall, gravity is wrong.
If we find a dragonfly with a the cell walls of a plant, evolution is wrong.
"The Bible said it, and I believed it." is not proof. If you have evidence, please offer it and we can discuss if it is proof or not. If you don't care to find the truth, then it's fine to believe whatever you want. At least until you fly a plane into a building.
Fourth, in several senses something CAN come from nothing. Quantum physics allows a certain small finite amount of energy to be created FROM NOTHING, along with its corresponding negative energy equivalent, because it sums to zero. In math, zero to the power of zero is an indeterminate form, and can be infinitely negative, infinitely positive, or have any finite value between them. That's nothing by the power of nothing yields anything.
Wow, math AND science. You, (and probably every Atheist) I have to admit are very smart. It seems that I was not able to tell my proof as you pummled me with all of your "logic." Good show, good show. So as it seems I wasn't able to say my proof since you seem to just instantly try prove it wrong every time I say something.
If what you were saying was true, I would not be able to pummel it so. You would refute me and show me my error as I have tried to show yours. The truth is unassailable. The truth is the ONLY thing that is unassailable.
This is why peer review is so critical. When a scientist says something, other scientists swarm onto the claim and with their accumulated might of genius attempt to destroy it. The claim must resist this assault FOREVER. If it ever fails, anywhere, even once, it is not the truth.
Species inherit all the templates of all their parents. This is why lions are cats, cats are mammals, humans are apes, apes are primates, primates are mammals, and mammals are animals, animals are eukaryotes... If this doesn't happen, then evolution is wrong. Traits like a plant cell wall can't just appear in a dragonfly. That might be evidence of creation. It would absolutely disprove evolution. According to evolution, traits cannot jump branches like that.
@rkyeun Well my proof is that nothing can create nothing. That means there must've been something always there to create all the magnificent things around us. Something must've created the universe, and maybe even caused the "Big Bang." I don't believe it's possible for asteroids, and galaxies to just be there without something creating it. The galaxy and the universe is something that's not alive. It's abiotic. something that's nonliving can't just appear without a reason. This is my proof.
Your proof is based on a faulty assumption. Nothing can create something. Everything in your proof based off that assumption is invalid.
Even assuming that something can only come from something, it doesn't follow that any of the always-existing something is sentient or deific. The rest of your proof is doubly invalid.
We have a firm understanding of how asteroids, planets, and stars can accumulate due to gravity and stellar processes without a creator. Your proof is triply invalid.
@rkyeun I said my proof, and I'm sticking to it. No Atheist is going to tell me what is and what is wrong. You asked for my proof, I said it, our discusion is over.
Just listen you yourself!! What a joke. What giant unscientific assumption you have to believe to keep your faith in nothingness. Nothing is nothing. Something never comes from nothing except in you mind. That's ok but don't call it science!!!
I don't have faith in nothingness. I don't claim to know how the universe began, or if it did come from nothing, or if there always was something.
In quantum physics, virtual particles are constantly bubbling in and out of existence from nothing. In math, nothing to the nothing power is an indeterminate form and can be anything.
The assumption that something cannot come from nothing is demonstrably false in many senses, and so the entire chain of logic is invalid.
Heh, thanks. I'm not always so civil, but I like to be when rudeness isn't required or appropriate. I tend to reflect what I'm dealing with. Knox has shown remarkable civility for a believer. Didn't threaten me with eternal imaginary torture even once for refusing to believe in his imaginary friend.
now both of us know there is no possible way you can have a picture of God, although i do know a website that explains it very well, pm me if you want to check it out
I know that, look at the date of the comment, I've ended this conversation months ago, I admit I was being stupid with writing such nonsense. This conversation is over, we believe in different things, let's just get over this.
I could say the same about you! I'm entitled to my opinion and didn't intend to insult anyone. I haven't seen anything to threaten my beliefs so far. My original reply had a much more pleasant tone, but the net re-set so I summarized my point. I was originally complimenting your light-hearted approach and giving you a jibe over the 'x' at either end of my name. My apologies.
good point, but there is one story that the bad guy seems to constantly be winning, the Bible. and yes i'm calling God out as the bad guy here, Satan is more of an anti-hero than a villain.
Atheist win debates because they use facts, and actually takes the time to research what they are talking about, plus they usually had some critical thinking training.
Can you tell me what caused big bang and where the ingredients of bigbang came from? Something out of nothing? Sounds more like a MAGIC to me. If the initial stage of evolution can't be established how much more the rest?
Wow a different answer. All other atheists say it started from quantum fluctations and quarks. But the point of the question here is very clear. Assuming multiverse exists. Where did it come from and where did its basic elements or force behind it come from? It would still be something out of nothing. Like MAGIC :)
Actually stupid, he dosen't like you because you dis-believe in him. Secondly when I ask all atheists if they died and were to be judged by god and he exists and he gave you a second chance and 99.9% of atheists dodge the question by saying,"How can he judge me if he is fake". But you can't prove or dis-prove god; as a matter of fact, the bible has more evidence of god then scientists "evidence" to dis-prove him.
I don't care whether your imaginary god likes me or not. And it doesn't matter if I can scientifically disprove him or not any more than it matters for the tooth fairy or Zeus.
And your fairy tale book doesn't contain any evidence remotely convincing.
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were fucking DbzTechnical about everything. I wasn't trying to make 99.9% come off as a statistic. It meant most atheists and in almost all of them as in barely any atheists care whethere or not a religious person gets offended by harsh comments and profanity unlike some good atheists Iv'e seen that know using profanity or disrespecting a religion dosen't go through and no one will listen. As the good atheist said "Too much talking and no listening." So yes there u go.
Because they chicken out when invited in real debates. What how the so called Rational Responder Brian Sapient chicken'd in a debate with a person he considers irrational William Lane Craig. If the truth is in you, you have nothing to be coward about.
lol, that's why the RRS appeared on abc tv to debate christians in the past. Theists have avoided far more interactions on YT than atheists. Your argument is obviously wrong and is just an attempt at propaganda
I have to admit the christians in that debate have very poor arguments and I'm wondering why they were put there in the first place.
But you said it right they debated christians IN THE PAST. But how come he's now cowering like a sheep? Even Dawkins is cowering too with several debate requests. If you're not a coward like them answer my next post.
indeed the crucifix wasnt even invented yet until they put Jesus on trial.. yet Jesus had prophesied that he would die that way before it was even invented
motionfur- as much as I deeply value the opinion of someone who dresses up like a stuffed animal for thrills, what is your point? I might say that millions of people had been put in prison before Nelson Mandela, but what has that got to do with apartheid?
You don't understand what my point is? Did you look at who I replied to? The guy said that crucifixion was invented FOR Jesus and that Jesus prophesied it. All I said that crucifixion had been around for hundreds of years before Jesus. What's not to understand?
Motionfur- I have re-read what you were responding to and I agree that crucifixion was invented before Jesus. I apologize for the misunderstanding. It is still a fact the the Jewish Messiah was prophesied to die that way and also I don't like furries so there we go. lol
"as much as I deeply value the opinion of someone who dresses up like a stuffed animal for thrills, what is your point?"
Really goes to show you the hypocrisy of christians. First you make an assumption he dresses up like a 'stuffed animal' then tell him his opinion isn't valuable because he does that. Seeing that he has no videos showing him dressed up as an animal, my question is how did you arrive to this conclusion other than judging him?
Uh no. A furry doesn't have to run around dressing up like animals. Even if many of them do.
Well quite frankly I don't hate them, but I do hate their hypocrisy and ignorance they spread. Well fundamentalist christians anyways. Plus the fact that all they do is pick and choose the parts of the bible that they like.
Not an entirely rational argument, but effective and cute :P
One minor quibble: Capn0Awsome is no more... mostly because he acted like a major douche, from what I've heard. He really doesn't support your point very well upon closer inspection.
(A Theist speaking) If obviosly god exists then whether or not the world comes to an end then your not the hero trying to say that God does not exist. It will just damn you to hell.
This is actually pretty humorous on the account that it's false.
AdmiralCyke 6 days ago
@vinciennn Hmm what would Allah do to Christians... Oh yeah, send you to hell, even some denominations of christianity send other Christians to hell (westboro, certain baptist & Catholics, the KKK is self acclaimed a Christian organization) this is more than just a one horse race. And wouldn't a benevolent god judge on the true good of the person rather than faith
TheEdgarAllenGospis 1 month ago
Being Atheist is Afterlife suicide. The biggest loss for a Christian when he/she dies, and is wrong, is nothing. Nothing will happen to them. Only cease to exist. But lets say the Atheist dies and is wrong? They go to hell. Who is really the biggest LOSER?
vinciennn 1 month ago
Loved the video!
And every Atheist should remember the line, "Without me, its just aweso"
Linkacious1 9 months ago
How can at the end someone can have reason about talking against reason?
tubetib 9 months ago
Hilarious, I tells ya.
TheCeejReturns 11 months ago
LMFAO Now I'm begining to think that the whole Atheist/Theist debate has been scripted from the very begining. Excellent work man. Keep it up.
NoNamesLeft0102 11 months ago
good vid, had a good laugh.
Needshoe 11 months ago
I don't get why people can't see the humor in this. I am a theist and i find it pretty hilarious lol...
ltramalho2 1 year ago
Oh shit, I'm breaking the trend for my side with a name like this...
HelplessVictim 1 year ago
@HelplessVictim
Dammit! Go sit in the corner.
imrational 1 year ago
@imrational XD
ILUV412 9 months ago
@HelplessVictim Don't worry. I'm in the corner with you.
MisterEvil1 8 months ago
@HelplessVictim ha ha same here buddy. especially with my avatar.
GhostlyRebellion 4 months ago
If this is meant as satire, then it was mildly entertaining and you can ignore the rest of my comment.
If it wasn't, then this is completely false. You failed to bring up the atheists that have been more successful in debunking theist claims, such as: Thunderf00t, AronRa, Andromidaswake, Potholer54, Theoreticalbullshit and DonExodus.
If you wish to make a claim, don't use a bias sample to support the said claim.
Gargoyal09 1 year ago
@Gargoyal09
It was a joke video
imrational 1 year ago
go atheism go...
guyonfire87 1 year ago
I don' like this video. It tries to trumpet what we are doing off as the moral high ground. We should be concerned with the truth not just the high ground.
Damdenn 1 year ago
@Damdenn
Thanks for the feedback. For what it's worth, I wasn't trying to trumpet, I was just poking fun. It was just a joke.
I freely admit that atheists don't have a market on truth and we could be mistaken in our unbelief... as a Skeptic, I just doubt it though. ;)
imrational 1 year ago
@imrational I don't actually think it's a matter of could be mistaken when it comes to any of the gods humanity has invented over the centuries. I think it's been shown that Thor, Zeus, Yahweh, Baal, Vishnu, Allah, and other such gods are all demonstrably false.
I'm only advocating that staying on a high horse is going to only make it harder for Theists to take any criticism honestly and seriously. In the end I'd rather get the truth out there then just sound smart any day of the week.
Damdenn 1 year ago
@Damdenn
Although I think we shouldn't put theists too much on the defensive by insulting them (putting people on the defensive frequently just hardens them in their beliefs), I think some light teasing is more than okay. Heck, I'd appreciate some teasing of atheists if it were done intelligently.
Also, I appreciate the compliment, but I don't really think this video would count as "sounding smart". It's a pretty silly video.
imrational 1 year ago
Not really relevant to the matter and one enormous fallacy but.... hell yeah, that sounds right :p
Also remark on how atheists try to enlight people with knowledge and education while creationists and theist prefer to accuse those who have failed to believe in their god of being satanists and condemn them to eternal pain and hell... well, anyway, it doesn't make the point either but, you know... makes you wonder who the good guys are :p
Pollypo66 1 year ago
that was really funny XD
DocStrange0123 1 year ago
LOL this video is pure WIN XD
lexcage 1 year ago
Only thing this video proves is your all attention whores.
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago
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okay this is why atheists have no real proof of there being no god. in videos such as these, although some are more serious atheist videos than these, they DO NOT use logical evidence to back up their theory. why is this? because there IS NO logical evidence to support that there is no god. so therefore, atheism has no evidence and never will have good evidence to support their fallible, inconsistent theory.
LProck4everGD1 1 year ago
@LProck4everGD1
Most atheists do not claim, "there is no god".
Anything COULD be true. I merely lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for the existence of one.
I think you have some serious misunderstandings about atheism.
imrational 1 year ago 11
@imrational "Atheism: n. atheism, godlessness (the doctrine or belief that there is no God)"
-Princeton web dictionary.
bcmasta1returns 1 year ago
@imrational "Anything COULD be true. I merely lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for the existence of one."
This would make you more an agnostic. If you are saying that you are not an agnostic then you actually believe or highly doubt there is no god. Then though you say anything is possible you highly doubt it in this instance.
Twicebakedtaters 1 year ago
@Twicebakedtaters
Gnosticism/Agnosticism speaks to KNOWLEDGE. Do you KNOW that a god exists? I am agnostic about the existence of a god (I don't know if one exists, but admit one COULD exist).
Theism/Atheism speaks to BELIEF. Do you BELIEVE that a god exists. I am an atheist. I lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for said theory.
This makes me an "Agnostic Atheist" also known as a "weak atheist".
imrational 1 year ago 2
@imrational "I lack belief in a god due to lack of a testable theory and supporting evidence for said theory."
I am trying to understand. You are saying that a testable theory with supporting evidence requires belief? or that is creates belief? Are you then saying that belief is knowledge? What about facts? They simply are. My understanding is that facts do not require belief. So do you lack belief of any kind? This would eliminate all philosophical notions.
Twicebakedtaters 1 year ago
@imrational Congrats dude on being part agnostic because that's the only way there will be no fighting over what is god and what isn't and there fore would make life easier for people like you and me not having to argue our cases on what -we- yes -we- believe in and not being forced something we don't want by being yelled at of something existing.
draconamous666 1 year ago
@imrational - That would be agnosticism, not atheism. If you are going to defend an entire philosophy, the very least you could do for it, is first understand it's definition in a dictionary. Don't you agree? Or is that too much to ask from a "rational" person?
RadioFreeJerusalem 8 months ago
@LProck4everGD1 - According to the way your mind works... if one can't prove there have never been ANY leprechauns, then there MUST be leprechauns.
Or... if you can't prove you're not homosexual, then you MUST be homosexual.
And you think that's logical? It isn't, if you can't prove X then the answer must be Y. You still have to prove Y. Did I lose you?
CO2Junkie 1 year ago
THERE IS YES GOD, GOD ALLAH IS EXITS, BECUASE HUMAN CANNOT SEE ALLAH GOD, ALLAH WATCH U ALLAH SEE EVERYTHING, SORRY
lahij 1 year ago
@lahij Prove it
fixerguy1 1 year ago
u must research yourself, i know you dont believe it, u should see any website for show punish grave with atheism ,
like example u cannot hear punish grave but dog donkey animal can hear it can see angel jinn but human cannot see angel jinn becuase allah created it,
lahij 1 year ago
@lahij Why do you think your god is correct? There is no solid evidence he exists or that any god exists.
fixerguy1 1 year ago
@LProck4everGD1
Oh yeah..well...PROVE I CAN'T FLY!
Wiredkid1 1 year ago
@LProck4everGD1 the logic evidence is just that u say something exists....so u have to proof it....
so u cant....and that s the logical evidence of the non existance of ur imaginary friend.
robot015 1 year ago
@LProck4everGD1 You can't disprove a negative. I'm actually NOT an atheist. I've had personal experience with the "spiritual". However their logic is flawless. Yours? Not so much.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66 " However their logic is flawless."
There is no such animal as flawless logic. Logic requires a point of view. A point of view requires a particular philosophical belief about reality. Since there are countless viewpoints and possibilities and no one has the answers everyone is on equal footing. To believe otherwise is not logical. See how that works? You must accept the logic, which requires belief.
Twicebakedtaters 1 year ago
@Twicebakedtaters Just because two viewpoints exist, does not make them equal. Most modern atheists base their arguments on the real world that can be seen, touched and heard. Since there is no physical evidence whatsoever, of a "God", they choose not to believe until such evidence comes to light. Sorry, that logical argument vs. I believe because you can't prove the pink unicorn DOESN'T exist, is, in fact, flawless. I may have experienced, spirit but I'm under no illusion that it's logical.
seeqer66 1 year ago
@seeqer66 "Just because two viewpoints exist, does not make them equal." Who is to say? What is equal is a point of view based on a belief in a point of view.
Which can't be proven, but must be posited like any god. So what is logical? The answer to that is whatever one believes. Self confirming circular logic.
Twicebakedtaters 1 year ago
@LProck4everGD1 Well they need no evidence to prove there is no god because if there were evidence they wouldn't be athiest and since your flinging that bit around why no tshow the evidence of there being a god
draconamous666 1 year ago
Evidence of atheism/agnotism vs no evidence of creationism/theism. I wonder who wins that bout lol!?
supersmash43 1 year ago
This video makes a good point...
Cruzharo 1 year ago
LOL! So funny
Vindaven 1 year ago
Scooby-doo where are you?
libertatus 1 year ago
you forgot hordesofchrist for the theists and azsuperman for the atheist
johnnythesailorman 1 year ago
LOL, very amusing.
VulcanFleet 2 years ago
ahaha awesome
TheHigherVoltage 2 years ago
:55 The Hall of Doom looks like Darth Vader.
Sambucacat 2 years ago
lol, nice vid
Takua38000 2 years ago
lmao xD awesome!
Shasarazad 2 years ago
Theists fail!!! xD
smunp 2 years ago
Fantastic vid, hella funny being that I'm a comic book nerd and an atheist. Take that evil doers!
sandpersn7 2 years ago
It's been far too long since there was a comment here!
MisterEvil1 2 years ago
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We gotta keep speaking this truth loud and clear. Don't back down, don't back off. Let's keep stripping off the lies and hypocrisy of many who espouse Evolution as Science (which it is not) and the truth of the Living God and Creator as false (which is Imperially improvable). Though we do not hide the fact that our belief in God is faith. But faith that fits the facts. Evolution does and will not fit the facts. Evolution is faith based on lies!!!!
kingdmculture 2 years ago
@kingdmculture
This kind of response always puzzles me... I'm amazed and I laughed out loud, thinking it was sarcasm (it HAS to be) then remember how theists react to evidence and pause...
The fact the Creator cannot be proven wrong doesn't mean he can be proven right.
No race ever spawned without evolving from somewhere else.
Lying is more a thing of faith (you have to make up something, THEN beileve in it). Science analyzes, extrapolates a theory and proves it.
Xgya2000 1 year ago
WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
fixerguy1 2 years ago
this video makes sense the bible I think served as a moral compass so that people would live in harmony but as history proves it has done exactly the opposite , but its sad how atheists have no hope at all , no reason to live a moral life except that they can live a short life with nothing to look forward to
Sembrandt 2 years ago
Loved the video. That is the reason why I chose my name and channel icon. Because I believe the atheists are trying to save mankind from the darkness of belief, why not have heroic YouTube name to help with fight.
TheAvengingAtheist 2 years ago
ths is full of win
hotdot200 2 years ago
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akumaten 2 years ago
This video is hilarious. I loved it.
snoman99991 2 years ago
Haha?
Papaconstantopoulos 2 years ago
great vid - nice to wake up to - now off to work :)
iFaithless 2 years ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
hehe, this video makes me laugh, Atheists take in so much pride in being somewhat "better" than us Christians, especially calling us "bad guys"...you're pretty much called 70% of America "bad guys," gosh maybe you guys should think before you say
knox1950 2 years ago
knox1950,
Glad the vid made you laugh... it was just a joke. As to 70% of America being "bad guys", ask most evangelical followers and they'd say that there were far more bad guys corrupted by Satan than 70%
imrational 2 years ago 3
yea but... maybe you [as a Christian] should've thought before you... became Christian.
Oh shit, intellect wins again.
mrslaroo 2 years ago
Why should've i thought before i became a Christian? I was born one. I don't see how "intellect" wins in our conversation here.
knox1950 2 years ago
Lol. No one is born any religion. As you grow up and are brain washed by your family and church, that's when you become Christian.And I said you should've thought about it first because now your life is based on something non existant. Sorry for your luck :/
mrslaroo 2 years ago
Look, I don't see what gives you the right to call what I believe in wrong. Everyone is intitled to believe what they want. If you want me to give you my proof of God. Just pm me. You do not have to though.
knox1950 2 years ago
knox1950,
We live in a universe that appears to have naturalistic laws and operates under the rules of logic. If your beliefs go contrary to them, then people could call you "wrong".
Of course, people could call you wrong under freedom of speech and just leave it at that as well ;)
imrational 2 years ago 5
Very true. *sigh* It seems that Atheists conquer YouTube. But I still go by my beliefs. We are free, and do what we will.
knox1950 2 years ago
@imrational Absence of evidence may not be evidence of absence, but the PRESENCE of simple, rational explanations for how things work IS evidence for absence of magical causes for those things. God might exists, but he created all 80 Billion galaxies nearly 15 BYA and does not go around murdering stone aged people in the desert.
nothingUnrealExists 1 year ago
It's called the first amendment.
That's where I have the right to call what you believe in wrong. And you have the right to call me wrong for not believing. But when you do, I'm going to ask you for proof, and you're going to repeat some tired argument that has been discredited thousands of times before, because that's all you have.
rkyeun 2 years ago
well then, here's something to start a conversation
I believe everything in the world and universe has a creator, that creator is God. Now your turn.
knox1950 2 years ago
I believe we can find natural causes an explanations for the world and the universe that do not require imagining a creator.
Your turn.
rkyeun 2 years ago
How is it that nonsymmetrical asteroids that "conveniently" smashed together to create perfect spheres (especially one with, plants, water, and life) could've happened?
knox1950 2 years ago
Asteroids smashing together is not convenience, but gravitation.
They didn't form spheres. Earth is not a sphere, or even an ellipsoid. There are mountains, valleys, chasms, craters, and vast irregularities. But again, gravity crushes things down to approximations of ellipsoids.
It didn't have plants and life when it formed, but it did have water. Water is quite common in space.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Yes I see, you got me there, I was actually expecting you to ask what created God.
knox1950 2 years ago
I know where god came from, and that's a perfectly natural explanation too.
Mysticism is the result of ignorance and emotion.
Morality is the result of knowledge and emotion.
Religion is the result of ignorance and logic.
Science is the result of knowledge and logic.
God is the result of mysticism and religion.
Society is the result of morality and science.
rkyeun 2 years ago
(Not literally true, it's some sort of metaphor.)
rkyeun 2 years ago
Well I can see that I can't say my back-up since you didn't say what I thought you would say, but ok, if Atheist you are, then Atheist you will be.
knox1950 2 years ago
That's not necessarily true.
Because I have no pre-founded belief that resists all evidence to the contrary, I will be open if a god ever does appear. If god DOES appear, but isn't the god YOU want, you'll still reject Him for not happening the way your religion said.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Well you know what, we never know what is or is not out there, we go by faith, you go by logic.
knox1950 2 years ago
To go by faith you have to claim to "know".
By saying I don't know yet, I'm being intellectually honest.
rkyeun 2 years ago
I do claim to know, but if i say that, then most likey other Atheists would disagree and critisize me for my beliefs.
knox1950 2 years ago
The correct response to "I know something." is "How do you know? What evidence do you have?"
The correct response to that is "I have this evidence, and a theory which makes predictions and is falsifiable. You can test it by doing this, and if it ever doesn't work, I'm wrong."
If we put an apple into the air and it doesn't fall, gravity is wrong.
If we find a dragonfly with a the cell walls of a plant, evolution is wrong.
Criticism is how you know what the truth is.
rkyeun 2 years ago
I have my proof, and that's why I believe.
knox1950 2 years ago
"The Bible said it, and I believed it." is not proof. If you have evidence, please offer it and we can discuss if it is proof or not. If you don't care to find the truth, then it's fine to believe whatever you want. At least until you fly a plane into a building.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Here's my proof:
Nothing can create nothing correct?
knox1950 2 years ago
That is not correct.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Well think of it, I'm not relatin this to God, but simple logic, nothing can create nothing right?
knox1950 2 years ago
No. That is not correct, in several senses.
First, you are improperly using a double negative. You mean to ask if something can come from nothing. And you mean to ask it, rather than assert it.
Second, you better hope something can come from nothing, because that's what you're going to claim god either is or did.
Third, the assumption is irrelevant because even if something cannot come from nothing, it does not follow that the something it came from was god.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Fourth, in several senses something CAN come from nothing. Quantum physics allows a certain small finite amount of energy to be created FROM NOTHING, along with its corresponding negative energy equivalent, because it sums to zero. In math, zero to the power of zero is an indeterminate form, and can be infinitely negative, infinitely positive, or have any finite value between them. That's nothing by the power of nothing yields anything.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Wow, math AND science. You, (and probably every Atheist) I have to admit are very smart. It seems that I was not able to tell my proof as you pummled me with all of your "logic." Good show, good show. So as it seems I wasn't able to say my proof since you seem to just instantly try prove it wrong every time I say something.
knox1950 2 years ago
If what you were saying was true, I would not be able to pummel it so. You would refute me and show me my error as I have tried to show yours. The truth is unassailable. The truth is the ONLY thing that is unassailable.
This is why peer review is so critical. When a scientist says something, other scientists swarm onto the claim and with their accumulated might of genius attempt to destroy it. The claim must resist this assault FOREVER. If it ever fails, anywhere, even once, it is not the truth.
rkyeun 2 years ago
Species inherit all the templates of all their parents. This is why lions are cats, cats are mammals, humans are apes, apes are primates, primates are mammals, and mammals are animals, animals are eukaryotes... If this doesn't happen, then evolution is wrong. Traits like a plant cell wall can't just appear in a dragonfly. That might be evidence of creation. It would absolutely disprove evolution. According to evolution, traits cannot jump branches like that.
rkyeun 2 years ago
@rkyeun Well my proof is that nothing can create nothing. That means there must've been something always there to create all the magnificent things around us. Something must've created the universe, and maybe even caused the "Big Bang." I don't believe it's possible for asteroids, and galaxies to just be there without something creating it. The galaxy and the universe is something that's not alive. It's abiotic. something that's nonliving can't just appear without a reason. This is my proof.
knox1950 2 years ago
Your proof is based on a faulty assumption. Nothing can create something. Everything in your proof based off that assumption is invalid.
Even assuming that something can only come from something, it doesn't follow that any of the always-existing something is sentient or deific. The rest of your proof is doubly invalid.
We have a firm understanding of how asteroids, planets, and stars can accumulate due to gravity and stellar processes without a creator. Your proof is triply invalid.
rkyeun 2 years ago
@rkyeun I said my proof, and I'm sticking to it. No Atheist is going to tell me what is and what is wrong. You asked for my proof, I said it, our discusion is over.
knox1950 2 years ago
I accept your concession. Thank you for keeping the discussion civil.
rkyeun 2 years ago
@knox1950
You and rkyeun are the first I've seen to have a civil debate on one of these videos. Bravo. :-)
(Sorry to have posted this twice everyone, but I wanted to make sure both of these fine people got my message.)
DeionMalkavian 2 years ago
Just listen you yourself!! What a joke. What giant unscientific assumption you have to believe to keep your faith in nothingness. Nothing is nothing. Something never comes from nothing except in you mind. That's ok but don't call it science!!!
kingdmculture 2 years ago
I don't have faith in nothingness. I don't claim to know how the universe began, or if it did come from nothing, or if there always was something.
In quantum physics, virtual particles are constantly bubbling in and out of existence from nothing. In math, nothing to the nothing power is an indeterminate form and can be anything.
The assumption that something cannot come from nothing is demonstrably false in many senses, and so the entire chain of logic is invalid.
It wouldn't prove God anyways.
rkyeun 2 years ago
@rkyeun
You and knox1950 are the first I've seen to have a civil debate on one of these videos. Bravo. :-)
DeionMalkavian 2 years ago
Heh, thanks. I'm not always so civil, but I like to be when rudeness isn't required or appropriate. I tend to reflect what I'm dealing with. Knox has shown remarkable civility for a believer. Didn't threaten me with eternal imaginary torture even once for refusing to believe in his imaginary friend.
rkyeun 2 years ago
@knox1950 You can't prove a falsehood.
EmceeGlitch 1 year ago
@knox1950 Religion must be scrutinized.
You have the right to believe whatever you want, yet I also have the freedom of speech.
rgj798 1 year ago
@knox1950 Can you please send me proof? Do you have a picture?
kmarois 1 year ago
@kmarois
now both of us know there is no possible way you can have a picture of God, although i do know a website that explains it very well, pm me if you want to check it out
knox1950 1 year ago
@knox1950 And I'm entitled to believe that what you believe is wrong and i have the right to tell you
ExistenceHappens 1 year ago
@ExistenceHappens
I know that, look at the date of the comment, I've ended this conversation months ago, I admit I was being stupid with writing such nonsense. This conversation is over, we believe in different things, let's just get over this.
knox1950 1 year ago
you see. you think you were borna christian. Intellect wins.
Hindus think they are born christians.
WE ARE BORN HUMAN. Remember that. THATS ALL. thats the only restriction.
Dimitrij90 2 years ago
Yes as you've probably haven't figured out I know that.
knox1950 2 years ago
This vid makes more sense than most of yours. Stick to what you know mr rational. uplifting music too.
xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 2 years ago
xDOTWx,
Ouch. I fear that you are turning more insulting as you feel your beliefs threatened. No need to turn in that direction, ok?
imrational 2 years ago
I could say the same about you! I'm entitled to my opinion and didn't intend to insult anyone. I haven't seen anything to threaten my beliefs so far. My original reply had a much more pleasant tone, but the net re-set so I summarized my point. I was originally complimenting your light-hearted approach and giving you a jibe over the 'x' at either end of my name. My apologies.
xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 2 years ago
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SourcesAreEverything 2 years ago
good point, but there is one story that the bad guy seems to constantly be winning, the Bible. and yes i'm calling God out as the bad guy here, Satan is more of an anti-hero than a villain.
sillywriter 2 years ago
Hahahaha! Excellent job!!!
vrcota 2 years ago
Zach "kooker" 88 shot himself in the foot with that name.
Perrine234 2 years ago
LOL this is so funny XD
doybyun 2 years ago
LOL XD
doybyun 2 years ago
EPIC!!!
Niveous23 2 years ago
Atheist win debates because they use facts, and actually takes the time to research what they are talking about, plus they usually had some critical thinking training.
hpufo 2 years ago 3
Stupid video, this is why:
Atheists don't win debates because they have better names, they win because they actually have evidence and reason on their side, Theism does not.
ubermons 2 years ago
Haha! This is awesome!
Abengoshis 2 years ago
So not... rational... Normally I would rate it 1 star for emotional manipulation, but it did make me chuckle, so 3 stars...
borrofburi 2 years ago
hahaha. so true imrational. great vid. im waiting for you to make some more!!!
groundrunner752 2 years ago
happy athisists day (comment posted on 04/01/2009)
AcuAwaGomu 2 years ago
You are so not funny.
hpufo 2 years ago
Can you tell me what caused big bang and where the ingredients of bigbang came from? Something out of nothing? Sounds more like a MAGIC to me. If the initial stage of evolution can't be established how much more the rest?
mavrickiii 3 years ago
mavrickii,
Yes.
From the multiverse
No.
Scientists have found a simple strand of RNA that is self-replicating.
FAIL.
imrational 3 years ago 2
Wow a different answer. All other atheists say it started from quantum fluctations and quarks. But the point of the question here is very clear. Assuming multiverse exists. Where did it come from and where did its basic elements or force behind it come from? It would still be something out of nothing. Like MAGIC :)
And you call yourselves rational? lol.
mavrickiii 3 years ago
mavrickiii,
No, I do not call myself rational. I strive to be though. Perhaps you should my video I made about my nome de plume.
Where did the multiverse come from? I don't know. It is very possible that it is eternal.
Keep in mind, saying "I don't know" is more rational than inventing a god of the gaps and attributing special pleading to it.
imrational 3 years ago
multiverse? sounds like something out of a science fiction novel
PacmanBonez 2 years ago
and god sounds like somthing out of a fairy tail.
3rdworlds 2 years ago
Your imaginary god uses all magic, so why would a "magical" origin be distasteful to you?
illuzion30 2 years ago 4
Actually stupid, he dosen't like you because you dis-believe in him. Secondly when I ask all atheists if they died and were to be judged by god and he exists and he gave you a second chance and 99.9% of atheists dodge the question by saying,"How can he judge me if he is fake". But you can't prove or dis-prove god; as a matter of fact, the bible has more evidence of god then scientists "evidence" to dis-prove him.
darkgothkid311 2 years ago
I don't care whether your imaginary god likes me or not. And it doesn't matter if I can scientifically disprove him or not any more than it matters for the tooth fairy or Zeus.
And your fairy tale book doesn't contain any evidence remotely convincing.
illuzion30 2 years ago 3
I love how Darkgoth just decided to make up a bullshit statistic off the top of his head to make it seem like he's smarter than he actually is.
DbzmasterdbzNecross 2 years ago 3
What statistic dumbass?
darkgothkid311 2 years ago
"99.9% of atheists..."
Idiot.
DbzmasterdbzNecross 2 years ago 2
Oh I'm sorry, I forgot you were fucking DbzTechnical about everything. I wasn't trying to make 99.9% come off as a statistic. It meant most atheists and in almost all of them as in barely any atheists care whethere or not a religious person gets offended by harsh comments and profanity unlike some good atheists Iv'e seen that know using profanity or disrespecting a religion dosen't go through and no one will listen. As the good atheist said "Too much talking and no listening." So yes there u go.
darkgothkid311 2 years ago
Why YT Atheists win debates?
Because they chicken out when invited in real debates. What how the so called Rational Responder Brian Sapient chicken'd in a debate with a person he considers irrational William Lane Craig. If the truth is in you, you have nothing to be coward about.
watch?v=u8_yMk9zcVc
mavrickiii 3 years ago
mavrickii,
lol, that's why the RRS appeared on abc tv to debate christians in the past. Theists have avoided far more interactions on YT than atheists. Your argument is obviously wrong and is just an attempt at propaganda
imrational 3 years ago 2
I have to admit the christians in that debate have very poor arguments and I'm wondering why they were put there in the first place.
But you said it right they debated christians IN THE PAST. But how come he's now cowering like a sheep? Even Dawkins is cowering too with several debate requests. If you're not a coward like them answer my next post.
mavrickiii 3 years ago
VenomFangX is a very evilish name. And the crucifix/cross is quite a disgusting symbol.
*rubs chin in thought*
MotionFur 3 years ago
indeed the crucifix wasnt even invented yet until they put Jesus on trial.. yet Jesus had prophesied that he would die that way before it was even invented
PacmanBonez 2 years ago
People had been crucified for hundreds of years before jesus...
MotionFur 2 years ago
motionfur- as much as I deeply value the opinion of someone who dresses up like a stuffed animal for thrills, what is your point? I might say that millions of people had been put in prison before Nelson Mandela, but what has that got to do with apartheid?
xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 2 years ago
You don't understand what my point is? Did you look at who I replied to? The guy said that crucifixion was invented FOR Jesus and that Jesus prophesied it. All I said that crucifixion had been around for hundreds of years before Jesus. What's not to understand?
MotionFur 2 years ago
Motionfur- I have re-read what you were responding to and I agree that crucifixion was invented before Jesus. I apologize for the misunderstanding. It is still a fact the the Jewish Messiah was prophesied to die that way and also I don't like furries so there we go. lol
xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 2 years ago
"as much as I deeply value the opinion of someone who dresses up like a stuffed animal for thrills, what is your point?"
Really goes to show you the hypocrisy of christians. First you make an assumption he dresses up like a 'stuffed animal' then tell him his opinion isn't valuable because he does that. Seeing that he has no videos showing him dressed up as an animal, my question is how did you arrive to this conclusion other than judging him?
JupiterJazzjaa2 2 years ago 2
I guess you don't know what a furry is. I didn't make an assumption. Nice diatribe against Christians, you must really hate them.
xDiscipleOfTheWatchx 2 years ago
Uh no. A furry doesn't have to run around dressing up like animals. Even if many of them do.
Well quite frankly I don't hate them, but I do hate their hypocrisy and ignorance they spread. Well fundamentalist christians anyways. Plus the fact that all they do is pick and choose the parts of the bible that they like.
JupiterJazzjaa2 2 years ago
Sparticus and his fallowers were crucified after they lost to the Roman Legions, that was around 71 BC.
ginkiba3 2 years ago
LMAO. That was really funny. Plethora of propz to the atheist who came up with the idea.
lacontracultura 3 years ago
Awesome... Got a good Laugh:)
Rastelin 3 years ago
Was this just to piss Christians off, or do you ACTUALLY believe that? lol!
timeisticking1360 3 years ago
nah, just poking fun with a silly observation
imrational 3 years ago
Oh :D right
timeisticking1360 3 years ago
Not an entirely rational argument, but effective and cute :P
One minor quibble: Capn0Awsome is no more... mostly because he acted like a major douche, from what I've heard. He really doesn't support your point very well upon closer inspection.
Also upon closer inspection, zeez ah lofahs.
OuroborosChoked 3 years ago
Ouroboros,
"You Either Die A Hero, Or Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain"
Once again, we can count on superhero shows to give us guidance on these things! ;)
(quote from the movie, the Dark Knight)
imrational 3 years ago
(A Theist speaking) If obviosly god exists then whether or not the world comes to an end then your not the hero trying to say that God does not exist. It will just damn you to hell.
darkgothkid311 3 years ago