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  • I'M A college student.

    do away with federal aid.

    ron paul

  • Wow, abolish all student aid? while college costs sore, you want to limit ppl who need an education? Paul is a joke who is stuck in the old days; is he that ignorant that you need a masters degree to even have a secretarial job? So Paul you admit there are no jobs, hmm not our problem, that is the private sector and public sector's problem. They need to make sure there are jobs...Paul get a clue and live in reality.

  • @Radetzky19 Here's some terms you can understand...

    When a country prints more money, the value of that dollar plummets and latently raises the cost of generally anything that dollar is invested.

    Our gov't put more of that less valued money toward college education, which latently raised the cost of products (loans) & services (education) related to college.

    By the time most students w/ loans get out, they are in debt by ~$20k.

    That debt endangers the welfare of all those graduates.

  • @Bmanritchie lol you didnt even hit the nail on the head dude; I stated some very important reasons why Paul's plan is such bullshit: why it is purely ideological and not practical. Paulbots, you can state all the propaganda you want, if it is not practical it is deemed useless.

  • @Radetzky19 I never meant for you to agree, I'm just trying to point out an injustice:

    There are job positions out there, but most good ones can only be filled by those who have Masters' degrees cause our education system claims they need "more" education.

    Those some that need money take out more loans, increasing their debt.

    I'm not for student loans, but I am all for an alternative that benefits undergrads and graduates to help earn their diplomas w/o putting them in serious debt.

  • @Bmanritchie 1) I am already aware of that injustice. and 2) it is not just the public sector but I argue even more so the PRIVATE SECTOR that is biased against those that do not have a college degree: one who has a college degree is more likely to get picked over someone who doesn't even if the latter has experience. Paul wants to fix this but he does it upside down; you have to change the employment attitudes first before changing who gets an education when

  • @Radetzky19 Changing attitudes in the U.S. workplace would certainly be difficult, since America has so many divisions of labor for certain works that really benefit the higher ups.

    If there were better conditions & opportunities for those that work on the lower divisions, they'd be more reluctant to continue working.

  • @Bmanritchie "If there were better conditions and opportunities for those that work on the lower divisions, they'd be more reluctant to continue working". Who is they? Are you saying that if working class ppl had better conditions, they would become lazy and not work?

  • @Radetzky19 Sorry for making that brief and ambiguous I was in a class.

    By they, I mean the lower division workers (esp those who start from the very bottom). I meant that if those workers were promised better conditions (ex: "equivalent" pay for their labor & dedication) and more opportunities (ex: putting enough time in that one position can promise a continuing higher wage or promotion, even to executive status), then they would have less incentive to quit working.

  • @Bmanritchie Most large corporations do work like that. People who started on the assembly lines can move up to executive. It's one in a million but most jobs definitely have opportunities to advance. What we need is more innovation. If you have a good idea, skip college and start a company. But these new laws are making it impossible to stat a company. You get taxed to hell right from the start.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus The startup is a given: our country's economy is set in a way where they keep the richer rich and the poorer poor, more benefits are given to those that make more than $1 million/year (ex: better tax deductions since they can give away more money than those who make less).

    Also, I find it irritating how entertainers often make more money than those who actually do work for their paycheck.

    *Scientists imo should be one of the most paid professions in this country

  • @Bmanritchie The tax should be flat. Success shouldn't be punished but the deductions are unfair too. With that said the top 20 % pay over 85 % of the federal income tax.

    I'm a science nerd myself but I disagree. Scientist should make the amount of money they deserve, which they do. In ex. medical science you can make big bucks for drugs. In astrophysics, not so much. But in general you're in that line of work because of an interest, not for money. I'm anti-socialism in any way shape or form.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus Oh I'm def not promoting socialism cause that's too extreme whereas the other end we have communism.

    A democracy is the median of both cause we have relatively great state gov'ts and when certain state laws sound unfair, we take those cases to the feds and see who's right or wrong.

    Also, a flat tax sounds nice but there's that one problem: everyone would have to "consent" to pay the same tax rate (no chance of that happening anytime soon).

  • @Bmanritchie We should just follow the constitution. It says that the states can pretty much do whatever they want as long as our freedoms aren't limited. What's going on is that the federal government is limiting those freedoms instead with stupid shit like the patriot act.

    Herman Cain was doing pretty well with his flat tax idea.

    In any case, my point was that we are losing the Bill Gates of today to hedge funds when they should be going to Silicon Valley.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus Sry, I can't really connect w/ how you feel about a flat tax since I've yet to be affected by it.

    As for the Patriot Act, it does infringe on general America's freedom but this how I see it:

    *You should only feel threatened by the act if you have done wrong, if not who cares...

    Besides, if people are so concerned about their privacy then why do so many people use Facebook?

    *All users' information/comments is stored in a giant facility to be found by the Library of Congress

  • @Bmanritchie Most people are completely oblivious to much information fb gathers about you. It's archives beat the stasi ones by far.

    I can't believe you think that about the patriot act. First of all it goes against our constitution. The founders put a ban on such government activities because they were used with the exact excuse that you used to persecute people in Europe.

    There is never ANY excuse to infringe upon our liberties.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus The Patriot Act is only a temporary law (there's a name for it but i just can't seem to find it via Google), it'll soon drop once out gov't feels that our country feels as safe as we did between post-Gulf and pre-9/11.

    *But honestly I don't mind the act cause I know I have nothing to hide, and when (if) the time comes, I won't mind answering a few questions

  • @Bmanritchie Temporary my arse. It's not going anywhere if people accept it like you do. I don't have anything to hide either but the government can suck my white cock if they think they have the right to break the constitution.

    That's like saying, we're just suspending freedom of speech for a while. When the government comes to ask me some questions I'll be armed and dangerous unless they have reasonable cause.

    The terrorists win by destroying our country and everything we stand for.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus Just being humorous, I never knew someone to actually type the word "cock" and not mean their rooster (normally I witness people saying/writing/typing "dick" instead).

    I don't know who long you've known but America has been suspending the speech little by little, it may be wrong but I can't really argue to change such example(s) anytime soon. (TANGENT BACK SOON)

    Ex: "Nigger" is actually a word that's illegal now in NY - there's no win in that battle.

  • @Bmanritchie That's what's so fucking wrong with this country. People think they have a right not to be offended. Well fuck you. I'm offended by idiocy. I'm offended by people who think the world is 6k years old. Does that mean we should ban creationism? NO! Banning words, ideas and symbols is against the constitution that was written to protect us from governments like our own.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus Tell that to NY.

    It's my belief that everybody receives a daily dose of humility just to knock everyone down a few pegs so we all feel equal.

    If anything, I'd like to live in a world where I can crack up a joke regardless of how fat, how short/tall, how blind, how crippled, how deaf, how dark, or my favorite how retarded (medically or uneducated) the person I'm offending is.

  • @Bmanritchie I'm sick of those east coast liberals who think they are better than everyone else. Funny that you should mention NY since I'm going there tomorrow :D.

    And yes, I totally agree.

  • @Dorkus89Malorkus I believed if there were any out-of-control liberals they more likely lived in places along the West (ex: California).

  • @Bmanritchie Well yes, but I'm immune to them as I live in Santa Barbara county just 1.5hrs north of LA.

  • @Bmanritchie Pretty fucking naive to think that government would give up that power.

  • @RomanMoronie1972 ... As if you know how the gov't knows operates.

    The Patriot Act is an "act" not an official law.

    It'll pass eventually but until then I honestly couldn't give a fat baby's dick what you think about what "injustice" you find about our government.

    If you don't like it, get the hell out of my country and move to Canada.

  • @Bmanritchie They passed it already. What planet have you been on?

  • @RomanMoronie1972 By "pass" I mean the Patriot Act will eventually cease and become a memory. It's only been around 10 years, and so far I've yet to see it affect me, so... I honestly couldn't care.

  • @Bmanritchie Actually you get out, you spoil the minds of intellectuals with your retarded reasoning.

  • @blah1311 I'm perfectly capable of understanding what the Patriot Act does and who it affects (I just have a passive view on it), and I have the decency to actually consider my opponent's side by not insulting them via YouTube.

    If you really want to troll rather than discuss, do all other YouTube accounts a favor and erase your profile.

  • @RomanMoronie1972 Naive, maybe, but think of what the role of government was suppose to be in the first place. The constitution was written for a reason, and that reason being is that big government does not work so a compromise was met.

  • Vote Ron Paul.

  • Ron Paul 2012

  • I just love listening to Ron Paul be so on the money about the failure of keynesianism...it makes my day, really does. The Keynesian state will fail, whether he gets elected or not, sooner or later. Just like communism failed, just like absolute monarchies failed, just like communism failed. It's bound to come to an end and ultimately the people win. Right now they just don't know they're being ripped off and they think the government can help them, when it's actually the real culprit.

  • government control has only made matters worst

  • Financial aid is given to students but in turn will make the colleges raise the tuition. It's an unending cycle just like the housing bubble. If there was no student aid from the federal and local governments, then the tuition fees of all colleges will be considerably lower.

  • Poverty rates up? Proof positive that despite decades of government programs, regulations and spending, interference in the free markets and educational system... poverty is getting worse, not better. Big government is not the solution, it is the problem.

  • Paul is one smart dude...

  • Dr. Paul, what am I going to do? I was a dumbass and was basically shoved into college by my ignorant family members. (I say ignorant in the purely "unaware of certain things" sense). Sigh...please just let me declare bankruptcy. I'll never take out a fucking loan again. EVER. I'll take the shit credit for 10 years just to ONE DAY be out of this situation. No jobs now and the gov't won't let me start the one I wanted... At the very least, I'm voting for you to change the future of America.

  • @agrv8ion

    Dude, do what everyone else does: just pay off your studen-loan with credit-cards, and THEN declare bankruptcy six months later.

  • @agrv8ion Thanks to this government the dollar is being devalued at a huge rate. There will be a dollar collapse this decade just as all fiat currencies are. Just keep working to pay off your debt and put any savings you can into silver. It will become cheaper and cheaper to pay off debt as the dollar devalues

  • @agrv8ion : I'd hate to have to tell you this but bankruptcy will not absolve your student loans. Those are with you for life. Don't believe me? Look it up

  • @rmed30 I know I can't file bankruptcy on student loans, lol. That's why a lot of people just kill themselves or work three jobs and kill themselves slowly.

  • The only person who has a clue.

  • @calebmallen

    Too bad the sheeple don't.

    It's like the movie "Die Hard" where the cop runs on the roof and says "EVERYONE GET DOWNSTAIRS, IT'S GONNA BLOW UP!"

    But still the idiots keep going like lemmings off a cliff.

  • He's exactly right. These universities, even those supported already by taxpayer dollars are charging ever more outrageous tuitions. $100,000+ for a degree in liberal arts? Give me a break. That's exactly like paying $300,000 for a 3 bedroom house in Fresno CA in 2006. It's ridiculous. Time to end the madness. Get government out and watch tuition drop way down to what many people can actually afford.

  • @jpete3027666

    It's simple economics: i.e. education-subsidies created an artificial price-floor, which wasn't matched by the eventual market-- i.e. their degree wasn't worth the paper it was printed on.

    So the sheeple graduated, and wanted houses they couldn't afford with their degrees-- and so we got subsidized mortgages.

    Next it'll be subsidized rest-homes... followed by subsidized funerals.

  • That makes no sense... If you eliminate these educational programs, what do you replace them with? Privitized institutions? Will corporations then fund research and development in math, science, medicine, engineering, etc? I think the solution is Friedman's suggestion on Real Time... we've got to expand post-secondary education and encompass the math, science, and technical skills in a secondary and post-secondary level... so that our graduates can at least fill the jobs we outsource yearly.

  • @autsim Replace it with free will.

  • @autsim not everyone is meant to goto college. and without the government co-signing everyone's loans, schools would have to bring costs down.

  • @Spydiggity Friedman's suggestion on RTWBM was the overall hierarchy of public ed., K-12 and state colleges needs to change. Provide the necessary accomodations, modifications, etc., students K-12 need @ a school level (rather than in central district ofc). Then our kids would be prepared for either college or the workforce. State colleges and jr colleges need restructering much like it did 50 years ago when Vo-Tech/Trade schools allowed people to learn a trade. Green energy & technology = JOBS

  • @autsim

    Yeah funny how Friedman wanted the government out of everything EXCEPT.

    In reality, the MARKET can educate people better than the government, which should be OUT of education ENTIRELY.

  • @autsim

    HEIL HIPPIE!

  • The availability of federal loans for students has simply allowed universities to continually increase tuition prices. The same thing happened with the housing bubble. It's simple supply and demand.

  • Jesus, Ron Paul can sound so intelligent sometimes, unless you keep listening. The private education institutions are the ones driving up costs more than the state subsidized ones. The free market is a great idea, but it's rigged.

  • @upsiderown you need to read more,

  • @upsiderown The reason why the "free market" is rigged, is because the government is there, in essence, guaranteeing that the "private schools" are getting the money. If you read about Obamacare, it has a clause or whatever, moving all student loans under the government umbrella, meaning that all student loan money will be loaned by the government. Tuition is already starting to skyrocket as a result.

  • @PressLinkThe "The reason why the "free market" is rigged, is because the government is there, in essence, guaranteeing that the "private schools" are getting the money." That is not a free market. I understand the point you were making to the person commenting however, hence why you put Free Market like this "free market", I would explain that a free market isn't rigged. Private Schools will be more expensive in a free market if the quality is better. As it should be.

  • Afford to go to a major college that is

  • I've been reading about the college bubble for last 2 days. It's just like the housing bubble, I'm at a local college but luckily I'm not in debt. Investing my money in inflation related assets so I can afford to go to college after the college bubble pops

  • @tommy35ss yea, but there's still the issue of quality education. Quality has decreased almost on the same scale that cost has increased. We're basically paying more for less.

  • @cyborg527 Yeah, that's a good point. I am trying to save up for grad school, but most likely I will end up leaving the country to get good quality at a fair price.

  • @cyborg527 only the best will survive so I'm hoping that after it bursts I'll find a good college still with high quality education

  • @cyborg527 Parents would have a choice on who they want teaching their kids under Dr. Paul's plan. Teachers who show pride in their work will make wiser students.

  • @tommy35ss

    Of course it's like the housing bubble: i.e. WASTEFUL GOVERNMENT SPENDING!

    Keynesian economists and libotards just can't understand the basic premise that THERE AIN'T NO SUCH THING AS A FREE LUNCH.

    If you could draw a picture of their thinking, it would be a fucking ESCHER DRAWING, with water flowing uphill, and then flowing back down and turning a water-wheel to generate power!

    And they really DO think they can legislate economics, which is like legislating physics.

  • @SovereignStatesman Thanks for the good laugh. Politicians are total idiots, and I agree with you 100%

  • @tommy35ss

    No, they're not idiots-- the PEOPLE are.

    Just answer this: WHO SUFFERS, the politicians or the people?

    Look at Obama-- I'm convinced that he doesn't care; he just knows that no matter what happens, he knows that HE GETS RICH and HE'S protected!

    It's the only way to explain how he's simply buying favor on the country's credit, running up debt like there's no tomorrow.

    He also knows that there's no accountability-- for everyone who blames him, he'll have 100 defending.

  • @tommy35ss sounds brilliant can you explain to me what that means though " Investing money in inflation related assets" like what I'm a college student with aspirations of achieving the highest level of education, and the only way i could do that is if i have money to pay for school. So if you don't mind school me a bit.

  • @Renamandul Because of the way fiat currency works you have to live way below your means while saving your money or I should say fiat currency not in a bank account but in 'real money' gold, silver, and platinum, but mostly gold and silver. Those have skyrocketed in price due to the interest rates being below inflation which is really negative interest rates. You have to live way below your means though, it's hard. Look up "What they're not telling you part 1" on youtube, good advice

  • @Renamandul Never save in fiat currency because what it buys you today it won't buy tomorrow is the principle. Also look up fiat currency on youtube

  • Gary Johnson is the best presidential candidate for the american people. He has the most logical and ethical economic solutions for this nation as a whole. I ask that you at least research him, and if you do not, if I did know you, I'd have to ask, why are you voting when you do not have all the facts? Why vote only for your own sake instead of for the sake of our nation . Take some time and read, and see what else is out there? besides what the media tells you

  • @dkoribag1 I personally have researched and, while I admit him to be better than most, Ron Paul is still the best Candidate by a mile.

  • @YaHuWaHservant Ron paul supporters will see when Ron Paul loses the election. Then they will realize that not enough people feel the same way about Ron as they do. Maybe they should pick some one a little more like Gary Johnson, who will get the votes of people who wouldnt vote for Ron but are more likely to go for him, if you combine those votes with the votes of the people who supported Ron Paul,,,,BAM!,,mission acomplished for true equality and true freedom. Too we wasted 4 more years .

  • @dkoribag1 Gary Johnson has less support then Ron Paul. Gary Johnson is an ok candidate however he is no Ron Paul. Lastly, It isn't about picking someone who will win. It is about picking someone who deserves to win. Ron Paul is the best choice to be President and uphold the Constitution of the United States. Agree or don't as it is irrelevant. We will all vote, a leader will be elected, and we will face the result. Ron Paul beats Gary Johnson any day of the week on each issue.

  • Biased media with tough questions and the Champion of the Constitution comes through with flying colors. NOTHING CAN BEAT THE CONSTITUTION when it comes to common sense.

  • @vechorik yeah that was the point of the CONSTITUTION simple common sense and thats it

    so no one can contradict it or be unsatisfied with it

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