BMR, part 2 - The Secret is Out

[bcowboy]

1. Kevin is a hot mess! LOL. He had me rollin. Why was he so interested in knowing if you were a top or bottom in your past? It doesnt matter. God made Pastor DL a new creature.

2. Dr. David kind of surprised me at the end when he got defensive about homosexuality being sin.

3. Why do the whole pannel except Pastor DL feel that people can't be delivered from homosexuality completely?

Overall, I'm glad to have watched this video. I learned something.

[EarthlingokIrish]

How can a Doctor be so stupid and igonorant? Then accuse a man with a valid arguement of being igorant? When you give your life to Christ you are 'A new creation' He doesn't believe homosexuality is a sin..so what is sin? SIn is an act against God and in God's word the Bible countless times homosexuality is said to be a sin. 'Nobody elses Doctrine but yours' TRY EVERY BIBLE BELIEVER God explains this as he loves us and wants us to live a life that's pleasing to him and abundant for us

[EarthlingokIrish]

cont'd I do not have experience of being gay but used to go out with a Levi's model so lets just say sex with good looking women was normal for me, i could not imagine a life without sex. When I gave my life to Christ he made me a new creation so now it is possible. Now 14 years a Christian I'm still able to be celebate because I want to live a life that pleases God. If I were gay the same celebacy would have to take place.

[EarthlingokIrish]

cont'd

Almost all my old friends are sexually active and a few are gay, there's no diference, sex outside a male female marriage is sin.God wants sex in marriage, man and woman only. Then how would stds spread? How many kids would grow up without a father? How many people would get beaten up or killed through jealosy and adultry? We dont listen that is why the world is in such a mess. Pray for them who do not know him that they will and He can change you

[Azureindigo]

God changes things.

[Bree41125]

IDK,but may God bless you all!

[1HAJC]

Sin is sin and is all stinks in the nostrils of the Lord. We seem to place a hierarchy of sin for mankind. In the word a glutton, a murderer, a homosexual, an idol worshiper, a liar, a fornicator, a thief, etc. are ALL sin. We have all sinned and come short of the glory of GOD. Thanks to God's MERCY & GRACE, we can be changed into a NEW CREATURE, but we must first REPENT.

[teeizhot]

@1HAJC I agree that all sin is sin, as you stated, but this show had a specific topic which dealt with homosexuality.

[rjohson]

how the hell are they going to tell this man he is not no longer gay; if this man nolonger is sleeping with men or does not desire men any more then he is no more gay then you or I ; if i used to be addictited to heroin and i no longer shoot it or desire it; am i still a heoin addict?

[1HAJC]

@rjohson Some might argue that you are still an ADDICT, just not using; but the Lord can make you a NEW CREATURE in him and in him only. It's not about us, it was never about us, but about him, the LORD GOD.

[Dionify]

Brother....whew.....Now I exactly see why G. Craige refuses to go on some of these platforms...I think you are one of the most brave men I have ever seen. God bless ya

[gcmwatch]

Thnx Dionify, I'll do anything for Christ at least once! I would need much prayer to do this again.

But if it breaks the hold of THE LIE (which I know it did) Im willing.

[meagamon490]

I don't think homosexuality is a sin. In the same book of Leviticus it says that if you put two seeds in the same hole in the ground it is an abomination as well as well as wearing clothing made of two different materials. When looked at it that way, practically every american is an abomination. Our views of the Bible are archaic and are in desperate need of a reformation, I believe.

[gcmwatch]

meaga, your logic is off. Just because it mentions both, doesnt make the one you disagree with non-binding.

According to your rendering, both are sin.

So let it be or stop quoting the bible to prove your point, then reject it as a credible source.

Not good.

[yoazzma]

alot of bible quoters pick and reject its made that way so how ever your feeling it will justify what you want to do you want to suck cock as a man than im sure its something there to help you get away with it king james did alot of wicked shit to people sodmized men. ive been a killer for 8 years in the usmc this world is very wicked most cock suckers in here hide they are like a secert culb or a circle within a circle

[rjohson]

hes not using the bible to prove his point and then; rejecting it as a crediable source. hes merely pointing out the contdradictions appaerent in the logic of the bible.

[Ministerdlyne]

To say that Pastor Dl couldnt have been delivered from the attraction to men is to say that their attraction for women can change to men, but ofcourse they would have said oh no ti cant if that question was posed. and its so clear that when u are talking to people who dont want to change how they live, they will find any way to justify it. That Dr is a typical dr and the gay dude is a typical gay dude what else do you expect. Its all lust of the flesh which eventually will kill u.

[TheSilentWarrior]

what people don't understand is that "Love" is a choice. Please stop mixing up love and lust, please. Your emotions follow when you submit to your choice. He loves God...so now..his desires are submitted to God's will..what does this mean?

[TheSilentWarrior]

Simply this...that what was once appealing to him before..is detestable to him now, because he's a new creation desiring only the things of God..so being gay is no longer desirable. It's not as complicated as that "research genius is trying to make it, he's in denial because he got a taste of truth and it goes against his facts. Well guess what facts change..but truth always stays the same.

[josephjmg18]

You have no power to speak without experience. It has no impact.

[josephjmg18]

Love and Attraction are two different things.

[TheSilentWarrior]

and i would agree with that...they are diff. which is what I was saying.

[blacknyx19]

I watched this and the other video corresponding to this one. Everyone seemed to be a little biased. But what killed me the most is how the openly gay fat guy wouldn't stick to the topic. He just threw out stupid statistics that were made up by he and his friends the night before that was filmed. Nothing that he spoke, had any educational backing. Poor choice to represent the black community...

[blacknyx19]

black gay community i mean...

[josephjmg18]

I agree.

[lsivels]

If you used to steal things, are you a thief What if you stop stealing, are u still a thief or a person that used to steal. See they are talking about a lifestyle not experimenting. A thief steals as a lifestyle, thats what they do. But if you used to be gay, don't make you gay because you don't live that lifestyle

[broadbent48]

All things are possible in Jesus Christ.

He is right.

[opinionatorX]

I know the host are tying o be objective for the sake of the show. But they are as Godless of the other 2 gay guys on the show. I pray that obey the voice of Yahweh before they die in their sins. Hell will be terrible. They have no idea. 2The 2:11. I'm with you bro foster. Christ can deliver from anything if we really trust the holy spirit and want it.

[mylifeiz]

These 2 GAYs are ridicuolous as hell. YOU are trying to make him say he is still GAY. THESE FOOLS ARE SICK.

[MakeMoney080910]

He is gay is just in denial.

[mylifeiz]

saying u can't stop being gay is a sick, silly ,demonic ass statement. Thats about as ignorant as saying a person can't stop smoking ,so if they see a cigarette they are going to smoke.

[unity1974]

Pastor Foster,...you held your ground! Praise God for the strength that he instilled you with in order to deal with those ignorant devils!

[cavaleer]

You can transform and outgrow whatever you want to transform and outgrow.

[chickwheat]

i THINK that's a good question.....but if you look at it the body is very adaptable to just about everything..our bodies where design that way.....so why can't our minds be that way???? Something to think about..Most people aren't faith based until they run up against the unknown and it freak them out..but the statement i made is prove in science.. Evolution.. charles darwin

[cavaleer]

I agree and that's my point about transforming and outgrowing.

What is misunderstood in every discussion of "homosexuality" today is that these people are consciously removing themselves from the grand process of LIFE. Creation, aka pro-creation, is the most fundamental aspect, and the ultimate definition of LIFE. So what does it say about an organism that does not seek Life?? What does it say about a society they produces people who do not seek Life?? It says something is very, very wrong.

[janetjackson1814]

Your wrong I never hide behind Sodom and Gomorra Straight People always use this as there argument. BUT why do you thik this is the GREAT SIN when that same scripture says don't wear clothes of divers sorts for it is an ABOMONATION.

[gcmwatch]

I dont think its a "GREAT SIN", refusal to repent from any sin will cause a separation from God and eternal damnation. Read John 3:17-21

[janetjackson1814]

gcmwatch: There is nothing wrong with asking for forgiveness. We all fall short of the gorly of GOD> Why if you can be happy with your mate can't I????

[gcmwatch]

IF you are a follower of Jesus Christ, "happiness" is not our goal, obedience is. IF Christ is your LORD, he can tell you who is acceptable as a mate and you should obey him. Its quite clear that he has never sanctioned same gender sexual relationships.

[chickwheat]

I think our Goal is to be transformed by the renewing of your mind. cause just following the word doesn't mean that it's not in your heart...you may bot act on it but it's there...We have to die out to your flesh..thses are desirers of the FLESH..THAT'S where sin was condemed at!!! So everyone is not above it..if your in flesh u will sin in about every other way. What kills me is that JESUS DIDN'T COME TO CONDEM! but to set the captive free...AND THAT'S WHY THE CHURCH HASN'T BEEN EFFECTIVE.

[janetjackson1814]

My thing is this if you are so disgusted then don't watch it or look at it. Hetrosexuals are very quick to point out others peoples faults and judge. BUT YOU ARE NOT WITHOUT SIN SO HOW DARE YOU CAST THE FIRST STONE.

[gcmwatch]

Dont watch or look at what???

God is without sin, he's the one who can cast the first stone and trust me if you refuse to ask for forgiveness, something much greater than a stone will destroy you. Its a terrible thing to fall into the hands of an angry God. God is always angry with the wicked. Is that you?

[janetjackson1814]

That means Jesus said commdem "all" dosen't only mean homosexuals that includes hetro to so I guess we are all commdemed NOT JUST GAY PEOPLE!!!

[gcmwatch]

Ok lets not be silly.

Reread the comment. Anything not male-female covenant marriage is condemned in Matt 19. That includes heterosexual and homosexual. Your should be more concerned with whether you are holy.

[nbarbee36]

gcmwatch i GREW UP IN MT ZION BAPTIST CHURCH IN COMPTON, CA ALSO WHEN I GOT OLDER I ATTENDAND DOUBLEROCK BAPTIST CHURCH IN COMPTON. I KNOW THAT murder, adultery and fornication is a sin. BUT YOU MEAN TOO TELL ME THAT PEOPLE DO THIS EVERYDAY ALL DAY LONG ALSO YOU HAVE PROBROBLY HAVE FORNICATED AND WHY IS ME BEING WHO I AM MORE OF A SIN THAN EVERYTHING ELSE.

[gcmwatch]

Im not sure I understand your point. (??)

[nbarbee36]

But he never broke moral (sexual) laws nor did he at any time sanction or encourage anyone else to do so. TO ANSWER THIS Q. : JESUS NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT SEXUALITY IN THE BIBLE EXPECIALLY NOTHING ON HOMOSEXUALITY. HE SAID LOVE EACH OTHER AS I HAVE LOVED YOU.

[gcmwatch]

To say that Jesus said nothing about homosexuality is a technical half-truth, and anything not fully truth is a lie. In Matt 19when Jesus was asked about divorce, he gave condemned **all** sexual activity outside the male-female marriage convenant. No Christian should ever argue that just because Jesus did not specifically mention something in scripture its because he approved of it. Jesus never mentioned smoking, child pornography or identity theft, but we know these behaviors are wrong.

[2561243]

You need to read Leviticus 18:22-30. Meditate on it. It states that men shall not lie with another man as with a woman, and vice versa. It's disgusting and forbidden in the eyes of God.

[nbarbee36]

So Why can a murder be forgiven, a piligimist and a childmolester but not someone whos GAY???

[gcmwatch]

If you repent you can be forgiven too. Its no difference. What have you got to lose if you ask God to forgive you? What's so wrong with asking for forgiveness?

[nbarbee36]

Remember I did NOT chose this I have been this way for 25years and I continued to be blessed. Jesus is my lord and savior people fear what they don't understand. People use the story of Sodom and Gomorra to strengthin there argument. BUT have you really studied the story?? Yes they were commeting detestable sex acts but what about the sex acts that was protrade by lots daugthers?? And what about Lots offer to the men of Sodom which in essence he gavethe men premission to Rape his daugthers

[gcmwatch]

That only means you have been in sin for 25 years. Its time to repent and change.

Sodomites were wrong and so was Lot. Two wrongs never make a right. You cant hide behind Sodom, Gomorrah and Lot. You need to repent for you own sins. God will hold you accountable.

[nbarbee36]

I grew up in the church I was baptised I believe Jesus died so that we may not perish but have everlasting life. But I didn't chose to be gay. I chose to love Jesus said love others as I have loved you. All I am doing is loving a person somebody who loves me. I have talked to jesus and I believe that I wont be condemed for loving another. I don't have any desires to be with a man I have tried that and I was discussed. I love being with someone who loves me for me.

[gcmwatch]

All human love does not have a blank check of approval by God. Why love a person more than you love God and his word? why live in disobedience when its clear homosexuality is a sin that will cause your soul to be lost eternally separated from God? Is your "love" worth losing your soul over? What shall a man give in exchange for his soul?

[2561243]

nbarbee36, you need to submit your desires to God and let Him give you clean desires that lineup with His word, because our own perverted, fleshly desires will lead us straight to hell. If you sincerely ask God for forgiveness, repent and seek Him for deliverance, God is faithful and just to forgive us of our sins and cleanse us of all unrighteousness; but you must stop defending your abominable act and sins. Stop making excuses.

[nbarbee36]

If not then why do you condemn what God has made. I am a child of GOD I believe in Jesus Christ. Jesus frogave the murder that was on the cross next to him. Jesus frogave Mary Magdolin. He says come as you are NOT come as you are EXCEPT GAY people. THERE IS NO COMMANDMET THAT SAYS THY SHOLT NOT BE GAY BUT all if the adulturers, fornicators, and murders I don't hear nobody saying anything about that. Why don't we focus our energy on helping the poor. Rather than who we love.

[gcmwatch]

nbarbee, ur right he forgave the theif on the cross who asked him for forgiveness. Have you asked God to forgive you for your homosexuality? If so, he will just like he does for every one else. Its that simple.

And Im not sure what kind of church youve been attending not to hear that murder, adultery and fornication is a sin. I have heard it thousands of times.

[Jesusdaughtr]

Homosexual is perversion and merits the lake of fire for eternity. It's a vile abominable spirit that needs to be cast out of the reprobate mind. Now, all Liars, thieves, murderers, fornication, adultery, witchcraft, unbelievers etc., will all join in the same lake of fire forever and ever. God destroyed Sodom and Gormorrah and will destroy all that do the same abomination )disgusting acts). Their reward is shame and death in the lake of eternal unquenchable fire.

[nbarbee36]

I am a gay black female and did you not read that it is an ABOMINATION to were clothes of divers sorts. IT's an ABOMINATION to eat shellfish it is an ABOMINATION to touch the skin of a pig. So therefore I guess you will not be eating at red lobster and wearing only all cottons or silks, and not plating corps of different sorts together and not watching foot ball or eating that goodole honey bake ham.

[Jesusdaughtr]

Christians are NOT under the oaths of the OT covenant.

[gcmwatch]

The bible, particularly the OT has 3 types of laws: Ritual, moral and civil. But the scripture calls on us to rightly divide the Word so that we have proper application. Ritual laws applied only to the Jews, civil laws to all under Jewish authority. However, moral laws are timeless and universal. Jesus intentionally broke ritual laws and when the situation required, he broke civil laws. But he never broke moral (sexual) laws nor did he at any time sanction or encourage anyone else to do so.

[ItsHellWithoutJESUS]

homosexuality is disgusting,unnatural and sickning. the bible says all homosexuals will not enter the kingdom of heaven.the word of God is our final authority, and it says homosexuality is a sin. so repent or perish.