I had the priviledge of going up and meeting Cloud's herd personally, and I am so very glad I got to see the wild horses before the government destroys this symbol of the Historic West. There is certainly something special about these beautiful animals and it sickens me to see them treated like vermin.
Write to Ken Salazar if you wish. But, all of you that do need to keep in mind that he is also the one who delisted gray wolves off the endangered species. There are only a couple of thousand wolves and he plans on cutting the population in half. No species has even been delisted at such a low population level. Not ever. Where this man gets information, I don't know. Right now, it seems he only cares about ranchers and hunters... Not wildlife.
I've been emailing like crazy for all the good it will do. I certainly don't want to see Cloud's herd removed. Does the BLM stand to profit from the removal of wild mustangs? Can they lease the land out to commercial interests such as cattle grazing and oil drilling?
This is judgement day for these poor horses who has no say! if anyone has seen terminator the metal beasts who take over the world witch the people hate soo much. will, humans are becoming it. becoming terminators. something that has no feeling toward the horses. terminating them from the only thing they have.
My family just adopted a mustang from one of the mustang challenge's. What a great horse!!! Only $400.00! There is something so special about these horses. How dare the Government.
Wow... Salazar and the BLM are such frieking idiots.
I watched a video on Bling. And I agree with those people. Let nature take its course. All they're doing when they slaughter them, is just putting them in more suffering than those gorgeus animals should be going through. They are such MORONS!! They are probably so used to being in control that they feel they can now control the course of nature. I laugh in their face. Save the wild horses!!!
No, blm is not caring about the safety of people or mustangs or burros. Would be nice, but I don't want to you to be deceived by this blood, lies and mismanagement federal agency.
I was the one last night who asked about merlin I hope hes able to stay away from this round up, an hopefuly Beauty is safe as well I know theres consern for her.
I'm doing as much as I can an I hope for clouds sake an teh sake of his family an the other band stallions an their fammilys that something happens to save them.
Today Cloud and his herd were captured and removed from their so called protected lands. Please continue on in this fight to keep America's wildlife protected. We may go down, but lets not go willingly!! Fight for our America! Because we're losing her a little more each day. Thank you RT, Ginger, Jerry, and all of you who are working so hard to keep what is so precious to us all. Wish we'd been able to save Cloud, and his herd. It's a very sad day indeed in this country. Prayers continued!
When you remove the older horses you remove the knowledge they pass on to the younger horses. For what purpose would you remove older wild horses? They won't be put up for adoption, why not let them finish out their lives in the wild? What a concept, a wild horse born and dying in the wild. The Act requires the BLM to answer to Congress. There is no overpopulation of wild horses. There are 6 million domestic livestock grazing our public lands, subsidized $500 million annually by taxpayers.
Poor cloud!!! He looks old and wore out anyway. It's funny you think you are saving something. Have you ever seen a area over populated with horses? Horses slowly dying off, starving till they die. I think they should open the slaughter houses and utilize the "so called wild horse" which actually doesn't exist if you do your homework. Instead of making the taxpayer pay 1-2 dollars per day, per head until they die at a sanctuary.
Evanitan-what you state as commonsense facts are wrong. The horses grazing serves a purpose in the ecosystem. They carry seeds, and keep brush down. maintain the grassland. Or did you think it was guys with super big lawnmowers. The land given to mustangs by teh will of the people has been stolen and given to rich hobby ranchers to run cattle-thus creating the overpopulation problem. Give them back their land -the land that schoolchildren in 50's and 6o's fought for them to have.
This is Ginger Kathrens video. The Pryor Mountain herd is where her passion is. So it makes sense that Ginger only speaks about Cloud & his unique Spanish Mustangs in her videos. If you become involved in the fight to save the remaining American mustangs, you will hear about other advocates and their specific herds. Ginger and a room full of passionate horse people showed up at the BLM's meeting 2 months ago to fight for ALL wild horses & burros on public land.
Human life DEPENDS upon the complete chain of life in this universe. The horse has been a helpmate & companion to humans for over 5,000 years. Nothing can replace the horse and all they do for human life & existence.
If human life depended on the complete food chain, then we would die off from all the extinction we have caused. Also, how would moving 70 horses cause all horses everywhere to go extinct? And what's more, the American Wild Horse is invasive, serves no purpose to humans, and is killing itself off from over-population. So you tell me. How important are 70 horses to all the other pressing issues out there?
I am very puzzled at why you would take the time to review a video & it's comments, when you have already predetermined your opinion on the subject matter. Please don't harrass those who are deeply concerned about the subject of the video.
However, if you sincerely have an interest in being educated on the history of the American west & the American wild horse & burros --- I suggest you begin by researching the 1970's Wild Horse and Burro Act.
In 1971, the Congress adopted the Wild Free-Roaming Horse and Burro Act - which stated that wild horses are "an integral part of the natural system of the public lands" - to protect wild horses from "capture, branding, harassment, or death."
2009: Forests and Public Lands Chairman Raúl M. Grijalva (D-AZ) introduced legislation to ensure the continued protection of wild horses and burros that roam the Nation's public lands, which have recently become endangered by the
what you need to do is take this fight directly to the BLM. Stage massive protests in front of the head office, as well as the regional offices in the state clouds Range is in. Escalate the protests and form road blockades barring the BLM workers and contractors access.
It is the only way this is going to make the national news,
The only other way this will make national news is the extinction of Clouds kind.
and now the BLM have posted a notice the Cloud herd area is CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC for the round-up. The BLM have been killing mustangs for almost 40 years! They hate mustangs and they hate the public who care about the mustangs. The BLM should be all fired, they should be investaged and charged with federal crimes!
Thanks to Ginger and all those posting here who are fighting for the fate of these wild horses. A very noble cause. The more voices who speak out, the harder it is to ignore them!
Hello Are you the person who posted the comment to my blog? anyway Can you send me a pm with all the info about Clouds herd I'd like to put it on my Horse Rescue & Slaughter Prevention blog
Your lies have been found out. Real science, not funded by oil and cattle interests, put to public and peer scrutiny will tell the truth.
Tobacco, WMD, war in Irag after 9-11 - remember all these? Just add BLM.
Anyone see the connection of the massive horse removals due to supposed overpopulation and environmental degredation seems to have occured during the Bush era?
Thanks for letting me use your great definition for the initials "BLM". I needed a way to express my feelings too, without using profane words that I would sincerely regret letting out of my mouth. I hate even thinking of cuss words.
I called into the internet radio show 2 nights ago. I was able to speak to Ginger and the host Katia, while trying to remain composed. My heart was pounded out of my chest. The host said "you can't lose, if you never give up."
Thank you Ginger! I've been spreading the word. Horse fossils are native to America - why can't Wild Horses be left with safe breeding numbers for future generations to enjoy? There is plenty of land that BLM 'Manages' - millions of acres. The land & Mother Nature can support - its mankind that doesn't seem to support enough.
I commend you for your work and as a wild horse advocate myself for over 35 years, I personally can say that the wild horse species is ear marked for total erdadiation because of their classification.
The 1018 Bill being passed is a milestone for modern day wild horse advocates!However,we must not become complacent and think that 1018 is a resolve for wild horse gather and captures.The Senate is full of corrupt individuals and 1018 can be revised to the point it wont even be recognizable.
A week ago, a wonderful investigation was concluded with the rescue of 450 dogs from a multi state dog fighting ring. Many people were arrested, money & drugs & weapons seized. I was thrilled. All the time, energy & money spent by many agencies to pull this off.
So why are the precious resources of the remaining mustangs not fought for by the government agencies? Why aren't dogs and horses on equal levels? These special bands of mustangs will go become extinct if nothing is done!
Seems like everything we do to stop this violation of America's mustangs just falls on deaf ears and hard hearts in Washington. I saw you (Ginger) and many other great Amercian people speak at the BLM Advisory Board Meeting, including concerned kids! The land and the mustangs belong to the American people. The people in power over America work for the citizens of this great country as ELECTED officals, not dictators. Yet , taxpayers are ignored time & time again. I am so sick about this.
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horselover8552 1 year ago
i'm emailing now!
horselover8552 1 year ago
im emailing now!!!!!
horselover8552 1 year ago
I have been following BLM and their shit for YEARS and every time they just anger me more. THEY NEED TO BE STOPPED!!
spazticfish24 1 year ago
I had the priviledge of going up and meeting Cloud's herd personally, and I am so very glad I got to see the wild horses before the government destroys this symbol of the Historic West. There is certainly something special about these beautiful animals and it sickens me to see them treated like vermin.
RedstoneManor 1 year ago
I would love to adopt a wild horse.
WisePillow 2 years ago
Write to Ken Salazar if you wish. But, all of you that do need to keep in mind that he is also the one who delisted gray wolves off the endangered species. There are only a couple of thousand wolves and he plans on cutting the population in half. No species has even been delisted at such a low population level. Not ever. Where this man gets information, I don't know. Right now, it seems he only cares about ranchers and hunters... Not wildlife.
WisePillow 2 years ago
I've been emailing like crazy for all the good it will do. I certainly don't want to see Cloud's herd removed. Does the BLM stand to profit from the removal of wild mustangs? Can they lease the land out to commercial interests such as cattle grazing and oil drilling?
OmegaWolf747 2 years ago
This is judgement day for these poor horses who has no say! if anyone has seen terminator the metal beasts who take over the world witch the people hate soo much. will, humans are becoming it. becoming terminators. something that has no feeling toward the horses. terminating them from the only thing they have.
CesaroZ53 2 years ago
Ken Salazar is a two faced monster!
"Save our wild horse herds and to hell with the wolves" is the game he is playing!
Wake up you environmentalists! You are all being pimped!
meidc 2 years ago
My family just adopted a mustang from one of the mustang challenge's. What a great horse!!! Only $400.00! There is something so special about these horses. How dare the Government.
hschehr 2 years ago
Are you saying that we should stop trying to protect wild horses?
ucnthveit 2 years ago
Um no No one's saying that! We want wild horses..I for one want them to stay wild & Free and away from humans...
WestlifeFan1995 2 years ago
What if the horse you addopted is from Cloud's herd???
WestlifeFan1995 2 years ago
go Ginger, there should be a government ban sent to the BLM for this
wolfstar23 2 years ago
Wow... Salazar and the BLM are such frieking idiots.
I watched a video on Bling. And I agree with those people. Let nature take its course. All they're doing when they slaughter them, is just putting them in more suffering than those gorgeus animals should be going through. They are such MORONS!! They are probably so used to being in control that they feel they can now control the course of nature. I laugh in their face. Save the wild horses!!!
RainTheLeadmare 2 years ago
I hope there is a Trace for me too someday soon.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
Triskal:
If you only understood what you are saying. Please, do research. Go to Ginger's site for the mustangs.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
Triskal,
No, blm is not caring about the safety of people or mustangs or burros. Would be nice, but I don't want to you to be deceived by this blood, lies and mismanagement federal agency.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
I was the one last night who asked about merlin I hope hes able to stay away from this round up, an hopefuly Beauty is safe as well I know theres consern for her.
I'm doing as much as I can an I hope for clouds sake an teh sake of his family an the other band stallions an their fammilys that something happens to save them.
ladybloodrose 2 years ago
Today Cloud and his herd were captured and removed from their so called protected lands. Please continue on in this fight to keep America's wildlife protected. We may go down, but lets not go willingly!! Fight for our America! Because we're losing her a little more each day. Thank you RT, Ginger, Jerry, and all of you who are working so hard to keep what is so precious to us all. Wish we'd been able to save Cloud, and his herd. It's a very sad day indeed in this country. Prayers continued!
jock4hire 2 years ago
BLM:
Search and listen to a UTube, forget that it is Al Gore, forget it is about climate, pretend it is your favorite person - just listen to the message:
Al Gore Rhythm, 6/4/09 by Phomomedia
TheWildhorses10 2 years ago
When you remove the older horses you remove the knowledge they pass on to the younger horses. For what purpose would you remove older wild horses? They won't be put up for adoption, why not let them finish out their lives in the wild? What a concept, a wild horse born and dying in the wild. The Act requires the BLM to answer to Congress. There is no overpopulation of wild horses. There are 6 million domestic livestock grazing our public lands, subsidized $500 million annually by taxpayers.
azglassblaster 2 years ago
Poor cloud!!! He looks old and wore out anyway. It's funny you think you are saving something. Have you ever seen a area over populated with horses? Horses slowly dying off, starving till they die. I think they should open the slaughter houses and utilize the "so called wild horse" which actually doesn't exist if you do your homework. Instead of making the taxpayer pay 1-2 dollars per day, per head until they die at a sanctuary.
tjutah 2 years ago
thank u so much Ginger for all u have done for Cloud and his family!
hlajudhr 2 years ago
Evanitan-what you state as commonsense facts are wrong. The horses grazing serves a purpose in the ecosystem. They carry seeds, and keep brush down. maintain the grassland. Or did you think it was guys with super big lawnmowers. The land given to mustangs by teh will of the people has been stolen and given to rich hobby ranchers to run cattle-thus creating the overpopulation problem. Give them back their land -the land that schoolchildren in 50's and 6o's fought for them to have.
hedgehogwithnoname 2 years ago
Help stop the slaughter of America's horses!
pamelarainsong 2 years ago
im not going to say anything, im not sure if this is real or not
TrooperMine 2 years ago
i cant believe they are trying to kill some of Cloud's herd and possiably him!! we cant let these ppl do this :( SAVE THE HERD!!
HorseCrazy71396 2 years ago
Triskal:
This is Ginger Kathrens video. The Pryor Mountain herd is where her passion is. So it makes sense that Ginger only speaks about Cloud & his unique Spanish Mustangs in her videos. If you become involved in the fight to save the remaining American mustangs, you will hear about other advocates and their specific herds. Ginger and a room full of passionate horse people showed up at the BLM's meeting 2 months ago to fight for ALL wild horses & burros on public land.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
Humans take precedence over horses.
evitanigaminU 2 years ago
evitanigaminU:
Human life DEPENDS upon the complete chain of life in this universe. The horse has been a helpmate & companion to humans for over 5,000 years. Nothing can replace the horse and all they do for human life & existence.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
Amen to that!
RascalCoyote 2 years ago 4
If human life depended on the complete food chain, then we would die off from all the extinction we have caused. Also, how would moving 70 horses cause all horses everywhere to go extinct? And what's more, the American Wild Horse is invasive, serves no purpose to humans, and is killing itself off from over-population. So you tell me. How important are 70 horses to all the other pressing issues out there?
evitanigaminU 2 years ago
evitanigaminU:
I am very puzzled at why you would take the time to review a video & it's comments, when you have already predetermined your opinion on the subject matter. Please don't harrass those who are deeply concerned about the subject of the video.
However, if you sincerely have an interest in being educated on the history of the American west & the American wild horse & burros --- I suggest you begin by researching the 1970's Wild Horse and Burro Act.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
evitanigaminU:
In 1971, the Congress adopted the Wild Free-Roaming Horse and Burro Act - which stated that wild horses are "an integral part of the natural system of the public lands" - to protect wild horses from "capture, branding, harassment, or death."
2009: Forests and Public Lands Chairman Raúl M. Grijalva (D-AZ) introduced legislation to ensure the continued protection of wild horses and burros that roam the Nation's public lands, which have recently become endangered by the
BLM.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
how does that Justify the possible extinction of Americas remaining horses?
Does that justify hunting an animal species to extinction?
does that justify animal cruelty and cruel practises when more human practises are readily available?
humans are no more important then any other animal in the eco system.
RascalCoyote 2 years ago 2
@ evitanigminU - So go help the humans then. Do you volunteer at a homeless shelter? How about going to help the people in Darfur?
I'd be willing to bet you don't.
TheDuaneBurright 2 years ago
what you need to do is take this fight directly to the BLM. Stage massive protests in front of the head office, as well as the regional offices in the state clouds Range is in. Escalate the protests and form road blockades barring the BLM workers and contractors access.
It is the only way this is going to make the national news,
The only other way this will make national news is the extinction of Clouds kind.
God Dam Obama doesn't give a shit!
RascalCoyote 2 years ago
and now the BLM have posted a notice the Cloud herd area is CLOSED TO THE PUBLIC for the round-up. The BLM have been killing mustangs for almost 40 years! They hate mustangs and they hate the public who care about the mustangs. The BLM should be all fired, they should be investaged and charged with federal crimes!
sunlei5 2 years ago
Thanks! I have written to a number of people and plan on calling like a maniac. :)
breyersroxmysox 2 years ago
SAVE THE HERD!
Pintabiano 2 years ago
Thank you
AnthonyMCampanella 2 years ago
Thanks to Ginger and all those posting here who are fighting for the fate of these wild horses. A very noble cause. The more voices who speak out, the harder it is to ignore them!
tikidikidoo 2 years ago
Hello Are you the person who posted the comment to my blog? anyway Can you send me a pm with all the info about Clouds herd I'd like to put it on my Horse Rescue & Slaughter Prevention blog
WestlifeFan1995 2 years ago
Ginger you are wonderful!
KWeigandPhoto 2 years ago
BLM - Bloody Lies and Mismanagement.
Your lies have been found out. Real science, not funded by oil and cattle interests, put to public and peer scrutiny will tell the truth.
Tobacco, WMD, war in Irag after 9-11 - remember all these? Just add BLM.
Anyone see the connection of the massive horse removals due to supposed overpopulation and environmental degredation seems to have occured during the Bush era?
TheWildhorses10 2 years ago 11
TheWildhorses10:
"BLM - bloody lies & mismangement"
Amen to that! You nailed it!
MorganJServices 2 years ago
MorganJServices - thanks - feel free to use it - A LOT!
I've been watching your blogs on Pryor roundup blog on thecloudfoundation - I'm sure they are yours - keep up the passion - we must not give up!
TheWildhorses10 2 years ago
TheWildhorses10:
Thanks for letting me use your great definition for the initials "BLM". I needed a way to express my feelings too, without using profane words that I would sincerely regret letting out of my mouth. I hate even thinking of cuss words.
I called into the internet radio show 2 nights ago. I was able to speak to Ginger and the host Katia, while trying to remain composed. My heart was pounded out of my chest. The host said "you can't lose, if you never give up."
MorganJServices 2 years ago
How horrible not only to move Cloud and his family but what if they are split up? Cloud and his family are home and they need to stay there.
Gloriapower 2 years ago
Thank you Ginger! I've been spreading the word. Horse fossils are native to America - why can't Wild Horses be left with safe breeding numbers for future generations to enjoy? There is plenty of land that BLM 'Manages' - millions of acres. The land & Mother Nature can support - its mankind that doesn't seem to support enough.
wheediesel 2 years ago
Please help stop these horses from being removed.
drduckymallard 2 years ago
Dear Ginger thanks for keeping us up to date.
I'll be writing and calling.
vanessaregister 2 years ago
I commend you for your work and as a wild horse advocate myself for over 35 years, I personally can say that the wild horse species is ear marked for total erdadiation because of their classification.
JerseyRenegade 2 years ago
The wild horse must be reclassified as a native/non invasive species.
JerseyRenegade 2 years ago
It is the only way they will remain as an intricate part of our ecosystem.
JerseyRenegade 2 years ago
The 1018 Bill being passed is a milestone for modern day wild horse advocates!However,we must not become complacent and think that 1018 is a resolve for wild horse gather and captures.The Senate is full of corrupt individuals and 1018 can be revised to the point it wont even be recognizable.
JerseyRenegade 2 years ago
Go Ginger, Cloud is looking really good and the rest of the herd! There should be more people out there like yourself!!
joolsofthenile 2 years ago
Thank you for all you've done and continue to do for Cloud's herd and all of the wild mustangs, Ginger. I can't tell you how much I appreciate you.
I'll contact Washington yet again this week on behalf of Cloud's herd.
RileysGirl 2 years ago
Thank you for making this video!
sandyelmore490 2 years ago
A week ago, a wonderful investigation was concluded with the rescue of 450 dogs from a multi state dog fighting ring. Many people were arrested, money & drugs & weapons seized. I was thrilled. All the time, energy & money spent by many agencies to pull this off.
So why are the precious resources of the remaining mustangs not fought for by the government agencies? Why aren't dogs and horses on equal levels? These special bands of mustangs will go become extinct if nothing is done!
MorganJServices 2 years ago
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TylkoKonie 2 years ago
I've written to Obama and he should get my letter by Thursday or next Monday.
GreatAuntCayce 2 years ago
Seems like everything we do to stop this violation of America's mustangs just falls on deaf ears and hard hearts in Washington. I saw you (Ginger) and many other great Amercian people speak at the BLM Advisory Board Meeting, including concerned kids! The land and the mustangs belong to the American people. The people in power over America work for the citizens of this great country as ELECTED officals, not dictators. Yet , taxpayers are ignored time & time again. I am so sick about this.
MorganJServices 2 years ago
Trace is looking awesome! So is Cloud!!! Can hardly wait for the 3rd documentary to air!
Hope to see you again one day :)
Thanks for all you do!
MustangBlueWY 2 years ago