Bloody Sunday Commemeration -- Glasgow 2006

[sgrdpdrsn]

Dhá cairde maithe ina gcónaí le chéile rudaí spreagúil:

Diving in Bishop Harbor (Tumadóireacht i Easpaig Harbor)

[ktockly]

Up the IRA. fuck yeez all

[MrSharpybhoy]

THE GOOD OLD DAYS BEFORE THE SELL OUT WHEN WE WERE 1

[Jungleloyalscouse]

This is a Republican Sectarian Fascist Bigot Tramps Convention marching with Extreme Left Wing Groups full of Celtic Tops and Pram Pusher Brigade.

Why dress in Para Military Uniforms you lot love Glorifying these Irish Terrorist Scumbags no more Bloody Sunday Parades thing of the past.

Spare LIPRFB Monkey Dance Troop going for your next march contact LIPRFB Liverpool they seem left at home a lot lately would be an asset to this Inbred need a wash Brigade and a Laugh.

They can also carry flags

[gridrunna]

@Jungleloyalscouse we will have our own sunday this easter at IBROX sunday bloody sunday we just cant get enough and show them were the true support is God bless the 9 brave soldiers of the 1st

[Jungleloyalscouse]

@gridrunna God what a day that would be for The Troops.

[57MALIC]

Those inbred orange scum will never drown us out by their cheep whistles at GAY GEORGE SQUARE for we are a united Celtic family. God Bless Ireland......INLA.

[daniel79844]

people am trying 2 find a rfb near springburn anybody no let me know

[jimthetim8]

bigrider how many kids had guns on bloody sunday ? it was a civil rights march organised by catholics and protestants! war heroes ? think not.

[MrSharpybhoy]

kah kill aw hns manky scum brits out ireland now scots traiters

[bigrider2806]

GOD BLESS THE PARAS ! SHOULD HAVE LET THEM OFF THE LEASH TO FINISH THE JOB !

[bigrider2806]

@nicholasmurray that would include , scotish , welsh , irish in that . ....... dumb is forever !

[nicholasmurray]

@bigrider2806 god bless the ibrox disaster... the 7/7 bombings !!! fuck the paras, england your a bastard dont think you have won :)

[1912carson]

bunch of fucking tramps!!

[Dilzybhoy]

@1912carson I know. The polis should have moved them. They were making George Square look like a tramp's convention. Done the same at Manchester.

[Jungleloyalscouse]

Remember no marching in Paramilitary Uniforms at the start you Republican Scumbags you should have dressed up like our Loyal British Parachute Regiment. If that crowd had got to you,you would have been sipping soup through a straw for weeks.You are all Sectarian Bigots and Fascists chanting I R AWAY slogans a disgrace and you all should be Banned off British Streets.

Republican Troublemakers Ulster is British Majority for Peace your a Minority just a load of Scummy,Scruffs get a bath use soap.

[staffielover]

when u see these videos all you hear is" go home ya hun"..im sorry but is that all these people say??

[Dilzybhoy]

@staffielover No

[nicholasmurray]

@staffielover you only herd it once ya spasctik :)

[staffielover]

@nicholasmurray here ya knobjockey ive drank in the gallowgate plenty o times and its all u lot ever shout...so b4 u want to reply go to the gallowgate and listen...oh and by they way its spastic.not spasctik..

[MrSharpybhoy]

fuck you scots orange bastards up the real i.r.a.

[MrSharpybhoy]

keep blowing the brits away real i.r.a.

[747peace]

well done true to your roots.

[MrSharpybhoy]

real i.r.a. keep blowing the brits away start wae the huns in sctland

[24352349]

i did not know we had so many retards in Glasgow

[yermaw145]

I hope these bastards do try to march through Hamilton. Then they'll have something to commemorate

[knumbknuts95]

@yermaw145 you will be on your own for that one mate

the chances of us being attacked in Hamilton are low ...we have not marched through there before as it is not a baised area

[yermaw145]

@knumbknuts95 Time will tell..

[yermaw145]

@nicholasmurray must feel very morale after such a comment, come to expect it from you and your kind. illiterate pikey cunt, scum of the earth, probably just a thieving bastard that nicks anything without a padlock on it. Ulster, british and true, god bless the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland YOU WESTBRIT CUNT.

[yermaw145]

@nicholasmurray Of course it is, Gerry Adams and Mr Mcguinnes' puppet show have been systematically eradicated. Not by their opposers, but by their shallow and transparency they have shown through various interviews about their connection with the IRA. Sinn Feinn no more, and the voodoo doesn't work. No Surrender from the Scottish brethren. Red Hand won't be sold.

[TheDumbartonloyal]

@nicholasmurray most of it is now get it up ya.will never be part of rep of ireland again.get to fuck ya dirty raping cunts.

[vinnyhoags]

@yermaw145 KNOW SURRENDER

[celtic6797]

@vinnyhoags

Stupid git it's" NO" 

[vinnyhoags]

@celtic6797 Know Surrender,a play on words,you idiot.

[bonescfc]

nice there am ir up the ra

[Badgercsc]

The British have thrown more than their fare share over the last 700 years of oppression, shame on them.

[oz1641]

We should have a 'bloody sunday' every weekend until all irish national chauvinist scum recognise our countries right to a free and seperate exsisience,

ONE ISLAND TWO NATIONS.

[Rizlao9]

@oz1641 one island two nations isny always bad fur example scotland n england they should be separate but ireland should be whole and free

[oz1641]

@Rizlao9 Dream on wee lad......

[Rossmc67]

i mind that lol

tiocfaidh ar la

[19paul16]

We the people of scotland support the IRA

[no1platoon]

That was the last time you tramps done that parade. Notice how you had no support from the pavements. Brave as fuck hiding behind the polis. FUCKIN SCUM NO SURRENDER

[yermaw145]

you can just sense the evil spewing out of those faces

[TheJock1888]

up da ra get the brits out now

[kevoknew]

good idea give there jumpers a de~lousing if theres a soap powder strong enough or if theres a washing machine in royston/provanmill

[colerainetrooper]

the ira killed innocent people too so dont blame th british army for doing innocent killings, and by the way DILZYBHOY, in the description you were suppose to say Bogside, LondonDery, Northern Ireland!

Thought i would let you know the spelling mistakes!

No Surrender

[UpTheReals32]

Good to see lads!

Keep it up,Victory to the IRA!

[Bdiddly1]

TIOCHFAID AR LA

[bolabus]

so, ?have we to support 1 paramilitary regime over another paramilitary regime ????they look paramilitary like to me,nah,i,ll stick to being a human.....................

[amirul1978x]

why some of them got arrested?

[Dilzybhoy]

Some of who? If it's the ones at George Cross protesting I don't know and could only speculate.

[no1platoon]

It was George SQUARE ya thick beadrattlin mhanky cunt.

Fuck off back to the oul country ya tarrier bastard, our roads are finished now.

[The6mick5]

remmber michael hogan captain of tips,shot by forces of the crown

[andyWBVFB]

da only problem wif bloddy sunday was da brits didnt kill enought of u bastards

YE-HA FUK DA RA

F.G.A.U

[Dilzybhoy]

Amongst the many problems with your comment, of which there are far too many to go into, the complete disregard for the language of mBéarla is the one that sticks out like a huge boil on the face of your majestic monarch in desperate need of lancing. Unfortunately the exorcise would prove futile as it appears terminal. Suffice it to say that you don't seem to have grasped the sasanach language of your queen nor have you made any point beyond the argumentative skills of a three year old...

[Dilzybhoy]

...which is no doubt, not too far away from you're mental age, if not your actual age.

[The6mick5]

animal ireland is irish not british.fuck the tans and the queen

[MultiCoyote19]

Intergration into the EU will oneday stop all this shit. If we are all equal partners then there will be no need to fight eachother.

You can blame our ancestors but you can't blame us for all this trouble.

[MultiCoyote19]

The Irish will never fight like men. I don't expect yout to take an our army for obvious reasons but the IRA fight in gangs. You attacked my old plattoon commander when he was an NCO in numbers but when they went back to the pub for some fisty coughs you shat your pants...so did the police...

[Dilzybhoy]

Perfectly legitimate guerilla tactics. If your story had any truth to it, you would know that. Who are these fucking arseholes with anecdotes that make no point other that to say, "I was in a platoon and I had a platoon commander and he was well hard he was. He told us loads of stories like that, hardest platoon commander I ever seen talk a fight."

[MultiCoyote19]

I have no issue with these tactics but it's when you cry like lil bitches when we do the same back that I find hillarious.

Your just hating the fact that England owns you in every department.

How did Le hand of God feel?

hahaha

No world cup for youhooo...

[The6mick5]

iam english but not british .mums family from ireland,its 32 counties and never british.up the celts

[The6mick5]

remember micheal hogan and croke park ,typical forces of the crown

[andyWBVFB]

UR A PRICK...... U DIRTY SMELLY BASTARD

her its true wot MultiCoyote19

NO WORLD CUP HAHAHA U DIRTY REBEL CUNTS

[gaelicpiper]

And what footie tournament will you bunch of mongrel half-breeds be going to this summer then?

[bigboaby555]

no world cup?????

[MultiCoyote19]

Oh, and upon looking at your description, if you think throwing bottles/bricks and shooting at our soldiers (again, behind the cover of civilians) constitutes a peacefull march then god knows what you think constitutes a violent one!

[Dilzybhoy]

No one was shooting at soldiers or throwing pipe bombs. Just innocent people getting picked off deliberately by murderous cowards.

[MultiCoyote19]

Dumb paddys. Living in peace & harmony is alien to them and always will be.

The IRA have now gone back to stealing candy from shops whahaha.

Mess with the Para's and you will get humiliated!!!

[Dilzybhoy]

Like at Narrow water, Warrenpoint?

[MultiCoyote19]

Yeah we lost some warriors. It's going to happen in a war where the enemy hides behind civilians like as in Afghanistan.

We however don't cry about it for the next 30 odd years LOL.

The point is the IRA have lost. They have gone back to petty crime.

What makes us giggle is we (UK) don't actually want NI and would like to see you reunited. It's your own people that wish to remain part of us :)

If the UK were to break up tommorrow England would become very rich (no more hand outs)...

[crumley9]

Brilliant, i honestly never knew that we had so much support in scotland, although it seems that the Bloody Sunday march is celebrated more in Scotland than it is in Derry itself, over the last 3 years the county and province has torn it self apart over republican unity and what true republicanism really means! Keep It Up lads Trofaich Ar La!

[Noddy1690]

Support? Just look at all the people protesting against this parade!

[blacksey]

irish liberation and unity at any cost.

[Noddy1690]

This looks more like an IRA arch than a march to commerate Bloody Sunday. These people have no dignity atall. They are a disgrace to Scotland as they want to be Irish instead of British.

[Dilzybhoy]

Never judge a book by it's cover. After the Widgery whitewash, We want to make sure that the British government will not get away from admitting culpability in the murder of 14 innocent, unarmed civilians. At the time, the single worst terrorist outrage and carried out by professional terrorists - the worst kind - at least the loyalist terrorists (well some of them) believe themselves to be fighting for a cause no matter how illegitimate that cause may be.

[adamasaventus]

The British Goverment are not a terrorist group they should not be killing innocents.

[prideofulster]

If they love the childkilling hungerstrikers so much in Scotland then why dont they dig them up and bring the cunts over there, coz loyal Ulster doesnt want them. STILL BRITISH, STILL NO SURRENDER

[keveydaking]

childkilling? the fukin uda unf british army and whatever killed 200 minors in there time, republicans killed 2, and they were bombs with warmings which the police decided to let go

[prideofulster]

Bernadette McCool 9, Kevin Validy 12, Michael McLeish 15, Angella Gallagher 1, Patrick Toner 7, Rosen Gavin 8, Charles Love 16, Gordon Gallagher 9.. ALL CATHOLICS, ALL CHILDREN, ALL MURDERED BY THE IRA!! Just a few of their thousands of victims. (and if u dont want to kill people, then u dont leave bombs in packed areas, so dont try blaming anyone else)

[prideofulster]

You can live in your sad, liitle, one-sided, tinted-view world if you want but the graveyards in Ulster tell the truth.. Remember Kingsmill, Enniskillen, La Mon, Teeban, Darkley, Omagh, Bloody Friday, Claudy, Ballagawley, Tullyvallen, Canary Warf before you point the finger to judge anyone else..

[keveydaking]

all of them with warnings, which the british government didnt pass on so they could make people like u think the ira as the bad guys

[prideofulster]

Sure the IRA 'claim' they gave warnings, same as they 'claim' they didnt rob the Northern Bank and 'claim' SF were'nt linked to the IRA and they 'claim' Gerry wasnt a provo, and they 'claimed' they didnt kill Jean McConville but now admit they did same as they 'claimed' they didnt bomb the Albercorn (killing 2 catholic women) but now admit they did... Yea sure i would believe anything them lying bastards say!!

[keveydaking]

the briitsh shot and shot and shot catholics, and camied they had guns, one of them being bloody sunday, how can a eprson be shot in the back if he was shootin at the british? eh?

[prideofulster]

The Provisional IRA murdered 798 people, over 300 of them catholics, are you saying its ok for the IRA to murder catholics? How did that help the catholics at Bloody Sunday?

[Dilzybhoy]

Republican Paramilitaries killed 2032 people. 198 were catholic civilians. The IRA killed 1802. I'm not sure how many catholic civilians were killed by the IRA but it would be fair to say it was less than 198. The crown forces (RUC/UDR/RIR/British army) killed 177 catholic civilians. Loyalist Paramilitaries killed 722 catholic civilians. We still yet do not know how many of those were down to state collusion but the numbers will run into the hundreds. These figures are from 1969-2000

[Dilzybhoy]

btw Crown forces killed the grand total of 35 protestant civilians. Do you see the disparity?

Check your facts. don't just believe iraatrocities and wullie frazers mob. do some fucking research ffs.

[prideofulster]

Ironic you have a video about Blood Sunday yet i imagine you support the IRA's sectarain actions at Bloody Friday and Bloody Monday

[Dilzybhoy]

Clear warnings were given for bloody Friday. Bloody monday as you call it was perfectly legitimate given that the paras were responsible for the first major atrocity in the six counties. And Lord Mountbatten represented everything that's wrong with Brit imperialism. Remember he was a brit officer and therefore a legitimate target. How were those actions sectarian you fool?

[Dilzybhoy]

And I see you have no reply to my demolition of your figures about murders. But you lot have never let facts get in the way of revisionism.

[prideofulster]

The vast majority of IRA members killed were never claimed as members for propaganda purposes. I do not consider members of the security forces shot in their back yard as a letgitimate target. It was hard for loyalists to kill provos while they spent the troubles hiding behind masks and women & children. And we havent even started to look at IRA/Eire collusion

[Dilzybhoy]

Sorry, I removed your comments instead of blocking you. An honest mistake. I was trying to block you because you said *nothing you [me] can say will change my [your] mind about the iRA scum* in which case there is no point in wasting my time. I have far more important things to be doing than arguing with a brick wall.

[Dilzybhoy]

Sorry done it again. Pressed remove instead of reply. FTR this was it...

"The IRA spent 30+ years murdering my community. My local graveyard is full of neighbours and familly members (most of whom i never even got to meet) You can try and tell me the death of 1 yr old catholic girl Angela Gallagher was justified or that Kingsmill was legitimate but i doubt i willl ever find their sectarian actions against my community as ok"

I'll reply tomorrow...

[prideofulster]

For someone who supports the IRA to feel he has the right to judge else anyone is just hypocrisy. Was bloody sunday worse than La Mon or Enniskillen? The majority of people killed in the troubles by the IRA, UVF etc.. were during sectarian, little tit for tat shootings, and as always innocent people on both sides suffered. Please explain to me how the IRA killing 798 people made anyones life any better?

[prideofulster]

Please explain to me how the IRA gave a waring at Kingsmill when they stopped a bus full of workmen asked them to state their religion and then shot them?

[Dilzybhoy]

How many children did the hunger strikers kill?

Come on smart arse. Tell us.

[MultiCoyote19]

Still, you allow comments so I have respect for you.

I persoanlly would like to see you guy united. I am pro EU so I see us all as cousins & equal to eachother.

Appologies, when i said paddys I really meant the IRA & Loyalists.

[useopenstupid]

fantastic!! how many strong is Cairde Na hEireann in Liverpool???

[theboyfromhere]

check your history u prick..coatbridge RFB walked in ayr few years back while you were under your bed ...

[24gazza24]

never b aloud to walk in ayr haha as if u r we will do the same to use as ur lot done to the bluebell

[nicholasmurray]

why would we wan to walk in ayr ? ya mongo hun bastard lol thtas like us sayin, have yous walked in royston hahaha

[rob87stevenson]

never seen so many tims in 1 place!

[heatdeb]

Place is full of uneducated micks with a version of history told round the fire in the woods drinling cheap cider bought with unemployment payments.fuckoff back to fuckland and take your poison with you.

[ANation0nceAgain]

Fucking fool. Away and get your version of history from your lodge.

[DieChavScum]

Wtf are you on about? Unemployed Irish aren't going to live in England, out DOLE is €200, yours is like... 60 pounds or something.

And per capita we have more PHD's then you, so suck it.

[celticrossa]

from 5:00 it looks like such craic, all the dirty hun protesters

[keveydaking]

i love the sad tune in the video wooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[blacksey]

fuck the queen mon for all the celtic nations

[heatdeb]

Why are you in Glasgow?As far as i can see nobody gives a fuck,just a few bigoted morons with no education or jobs for that matter.

[knumbknuts95]

why are you commenting on this video? as far as i can see you dont have a life and no-one gives a shit what you think about this

[keveydaking]

rofl u pwned him

[knumbknuts95]

:L damn right i did

[keveydaking]

do u live in glasgow?

[theboyfromhere]

The Plantations over..why dont you go home.....irish resistance kept alive since 1898.....

[harpur1]

no mention of the fact that martin mcguiness fird the first shots and started the whole thing.

[no1platoon]

You shat yourselves when you got to George Square and were faced with the loyalists ya manky taig cunts. You ended up in a shitehole carpark and laid yer wreath that was later kicked about the streets of Bridgeton and burned.

THE FAMINE IS OVER WHY DONT YOU GO HOME.

BJK

[FreeThePeople2008]

Then when yous went to go on your busses we ran at yez and yous shat it foamin out the mouth for 5 mins bet that bus need sorting afterwards you think the was a buch of oaps on board witht the smell of shite. crawl back into you cave you knuckledragging scum. its only just begun. R.I.R.A

[no1platoon]

More shite lies.

Point 1. We didnt travel there in bus loads.

2 Your fuckin buses were in the carpark you finished the rabble and you all got on them.

3 The Police were standing outside keeping the loyalists away from ripping your scrawny gypsy necks. Ya taig cunts.

THE FAMINE IS OVER WHY DONT YOU GO HOME.

[FreeThePeople2008]

hahaha you manky scumbag there were plenty of taigs who would have tore yous apart. I would love a scrap wae your lot but that will be dragging ourselves down to you level uneducated rangers fans loyal. Yes the famine is over and I am home Scottish tottie famine 1846 get an education you inbread skank. x x

[FreeThePeople2008]

Q. do you know what happend on bloody sunday? do you know what crimes 1 para got away with so much anger burns on there are republicans remembering every year the flame is still burning. I can see why your lot would protest parades like the fallen comrades one in Glasgow but why bloody sunday? is it because it is an famous injustice you cant fface like bloody friday cruley discised by the orange state goverment special branch and brit force was like kingsmill

[FreeThePeople2008]

when 14 protestant men ( in which I personaly dont agree with ) were shot for uvf murdering catholics at random okay keyboard gangster inlighten me to loyalist idealogys and i will give you honest answers.

[no1platoon]

Mcguinness fired the first shot, The Paras responded, but never shot enough of you.

They were doing their job,which was protecting themselves and the country against terrorists.

It's hard to understand your posts with no full stops.

Where does a sentence start and finish?

It's all 1 long ramble to me.

[no1platoon]

You forget, the British troops were posted to Ulster to protect the taigs, because the loyalist's were getting them to fuck out. They should have left it another week, and Ulster would have been clean.

[FreeThePeople2008]

Platoon you the perfect example of loyalist propaganda no shots were fired by the Provos it was the Parra's, when they mowed down Barney Mcgiguan in a hail of bullets,Terrorist? who was terrorising the nationalists. haha dont insult my intellegence I have no time for people like you you'll never change your way of disliking the taigs FULL STOP.You can't answer my questions in full but your trying to slag my punctuation get a grip your just knuckle dragging scum where were you educated lol56.

[no1platoon]

Typical tarrier spelling.

[FreeThePeople2008]

Why you not answering my questions to scared incase I prove you wrong. fuck sake just joined this thing and this is what im up against. hahaha

[no1platoon]

see above ya wank

[cj4680]

why dont you loyalists fuck off back to england where you animals and crack pots belong,see us scots dont want you orange bastards on our proud land,so please go home,thanks and GOD BLESS SIR WILLIAM AND THE TARTAN ARMY.....

[gnevnev]

any1 know who was the priest that gave eyewitness of a boy shot as he was running away from shooting completely incocent

[larchbank]

no class, no scottish pride these people who are scottish and hold the irish flag with pride just sums up this country we will never be independent because of morons like this, disgraceful celebrating another countrys cause in your own country.

[peacefrog1916]

Alba gu Brath

[ginzobhoy]

up the RA !

[cfcnlr]

legends

the irish in glasgow keep on the irish tradition dont forget your past family and ancestors from th emerald isle

[celticrossa]

SAOIRSE 2K8 IRA

[hanging1v]

SAOIRSE 08

[packolorentay]

gr8 turnout in glasgow 4 the brave hungerstrikers fair play 2 yiz bhoys...we must always commerate our fallen heroes,cos they are da cornerstones in our final push 4ward in da now inevetable fight 4 absolute SAOIRSE EIREANN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[19paul16]

The reason there's more police is because orange scum thugs are intent on rioting ie manchester SCOTLANDS SHAME

[47jlk91]

Oh was that when the loyalists blew up a shopping centre with innocent women and children shopping in it. Get your facts right u wanker

[joggingsuit]

Someone has to tell these pricks the WAR IS OVER!!!!!!

[Dilzybhoy]

Someone has to tell the brits to admit their part in it. So we'll keep telling them until they do.

[weephil]

very true

[carlukeloyal]

HA HA HA HA.Pissing myself laughing at that shower of shit.There were more police than marchers.GO HOME,THE FAMINES OVER..........

[Dilzybhoy]

Another of Scotland's shame FC You never let us down. Fucking imbecile

[carlukeloyal]

Still laughing dizzyboy.

[PILGARLIC42]

Wow the maxi,, and the first tune the two brendans,,, hail hail , the ra is still here,, up da celtic.

[AIRDRIEBLUE]

I thought i had a lot of action men as a kid.

[AIRDRIEBLUE]

I thought i had a lot of action men as a kid.

[1916supermc]

tiocfaidh ar la

[lnterpaul]

aye lol

[lnterpaul]

themightofenglish "many a scot died in ulster"

when in 1690 fighting for king james of scotland??? many more scots have died fighting against the union with england than for it.......... so jog on ya prick

TIOCHFAIDARLA

[TheMightOfTheEnglish]

made me laugh near the end ,go home you huns, yet these are pro irish ,in scotland ,no ,you go home .its a disgrace,many a scot lost his life in ulster ,and this parade allowed to go on

[TheMightOfTheEnglish]

it wasnt a peacefull march at all,a large group broke away then started rioting,throwing bricks and all sorts at the soldiers,the paras charged ,and at least 1 shot was fired at the soldiers,and a photograph of a gunman was taken during the shooting, im not saying a tragedy didnt occur it did, martin mcguiness goes on about it but it was the biggest boost the ira ever had .wouldnt be suprised if was engineered by ira sein fein,thats what you usually accuse the security forces of

[Dilzybhoy]

No amount of sticking yer fingers in yer ears will change the facts. If you can't accept the simple facts then your whole argument lacks any credibility. You will be ignored.

[sallybird4]

I thought the IRA did not approve of bigoted sectarian marches or flute bands? Yet here is a bunch of obviously sectarian bigots behaving in a hostile and threatening manner.

PS They cant play either!

[Dilzybhoy]

Yeah I know.

[Blaggerbhoy]

dilzybhoy ignore that reply at the bottom looks like i missed this years march let me know dates and venues for other marches coming up as i would like to show my support cheers

[Dilzybhoy]

Just check out caltonradio. They handle all our publicity.

[lnterpaul]

vote S.N.P

[Blaggerbhoy]

always do

[bf99]

Whats a poaras is it like a hun koala bear

[bygyabas]

we shot 1 we shot 2 we shot 13 more than you with a nik nak paddy wack give the prod a gun poaras 13 bogside none

[Dilzybhoy]

Bright as a button you are eh?