They say James Toney would beat Mike Tyson In a boxing match and some what believe it. But I realy think James would try to fight Mike instead of boxing him and he would get knock if he does.lol And thats why idk who whould win against Toney and Mike thats realy a toss up ring side please.lmbo
@Robstailey Yep, very talented..............too bad he stuck around so long.........now he sounds pretty bad and has to take meds due to the fact that his pitiutary is not kicking out enough of certain hormones........brain damage.
James Toney is a very under rated Heavyweight, his fights are actually quite exciting and to see big men exchanging like they do in a James Toney fight; is rare to say the least. His fights at Heavyweight are underrated and regardless of his maybe 15 % body fat as a heavyweight, the fights are quite fun to watch. Know something to say something.
One of the best "throwback" fighters of our earlier generation. Toney knows how to pick, roll, and slip punches. If you want to learn the art of defense, watch James Toney. "A true craftsmen; of his craft (despite the negativity. I, merely, watch his skills)."
I'm by no means a Klitschko fan but these guys wouldn't have a chance against Viatli in his prime.....even Wladimir is so tall that you can't get inside their jab and they do that for 12 and they go home with the title
Holyfield was still a good fighter when this fight took place. People need to stop trying to deminish James Toney.He beat Ruiz and drawed Ruiz, He beat a very good Rahman leading up to this fight. He is 7-3 since this fight and beat Nikolai Valuev in 2008 for the WBA but was robbed of the victory.He's fought some game opponents since and is still winning. Holyfield is fighting Aleksandr Povetkin in december 2011. So stop discriminating Toney, He beat down a still great fighter in Holyfield.
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 holyfield was still a GOOD fighter, but he was a great fighter in his prime, your statement is almost like saying larry holmes beat down a great fighter in ali when everyone knows that ali was just to old and had taken to much in his career to fight
@jimmycollins1234 no that is far from true , This Holyfield that fought Toney would rape Ali that fought Homes. Ali barely through punches. Holyfield fought a war in this fight and would have beat most any other heavyweight fighter on that night; but not James Toney.
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 are u stupid? holyfield was finished when this fight took place. are u saying james toney wouldve beat holyfield in his prime? if so ur a fucking idiot. james toney is a really good fighter. holyfield is a great fighter. theres a difference. he was old for this fight.
@cwalkingweasle I can agree that Holyfield is past his prime in this fight. Finished? Definately not. Toney himself wasn't exactly in superb form for this fight, either. Don't forget that he wasn't always a heavyweight.
@cwalkingweasle I would think that you're right...Holyfield probably would have beat Toney if they fought when they were both in their prime, likely because Holyfield was a heavyweight and Toney was a middleweight (I think...maybe welterweight?)...
@Warmonger1178 Toney would have to cut off his legs to be a welterweight. He struggled with making weight as a middleweight. He was at his best as a light heavy/cruiser. A close to prime Holyfield would work Toney over. Just watch him in this fight....When have you ever seen him tire so easily? When have you ever seen him struggle so much with his left hook? Something was seriously wrong with him.....Looked like the 3rd Bowe fight all over again.
@Warmonger1178 he fought at middleweight. but remember that holyfield was a blown up heavyweight. he wasnt naturally a heavyweight. he was much smaller than everybody else but the reason he did it was because all the big money fights were at heavyweight and he knew that was the only way to get respect. hes still underrated. ppl dont give holyfield enough credit
Toney displayed some amazing skill in this fight and Ken Shamrock says he,s gonna stand n bang with him. If Toney can regain the form he showed on this night Ken's gonna get KO'd.
@cpaignforeva2010 lmao gay porn. thats all you ignorants have to say....yes go and watch paquiao the best boxer in the world fight worthless fighters.. i bet thats really fun.
@cpaignforeva2010 thats exactly why boxing is dead. overpaid fighters who get to fight whoever they want at a time of their choosing(gayweather) in mma we see the fights we want and fighters get paid less...maybe thats why its a better sport. idiot
@daisylovesmoy -i lol at u mma douches who say boxing is dead...it's like you all feel threatened by it or something...boxing has been around for a hell of a lot longer than mma and it's here to stay...so get over it.
@jimmah1967 lol the up and comer is always the threat...no the old timer you idiot. boxing is threatened by mma not the other way around...use your brain.
@Immortalsyn83 Which means I like MMA, but not MMA nutcases, they are not true fight fans, only MMA fans, and wants sports as boxing to die. Thats why they around boxing threads like flies on shit.
@cpaignforeva2010 Too bad boxing is going down and MMA is going up. Even Hopkins says MMA is better. And also your odviously butthurt if you call it mmgay. Dont hate homie!
cotto loses and fights paquiao....clottey loses and fights paquiao.....margarito loses and fights paquiao...marquez loses and fights paquiao....mayweather.....rarely fights....damn this sport is dead. LMAO
@jimmah1967 LOOOOL...you are funny....so anyway did you see that fight between couture and Toney?...that toney is a beast mah boy! pay yo light bill! LMAOROFL!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
@daisylovesmoy -If Randy was to do a boxing match with Toney that wouldnt make it outa the first rd either...Randy is always gonna win an mma match with a boxer.
I remember when Holyfield was stopped by Bowe in 1995,many pundits and experts,including Ray Leonard,begged him to stop as he was considered finished even then.Taking nothing away from Toney but this fight was 8-9 years after Evander was already considered past his peak.Possibly even at his peak he would have struggled with Toney who was always slick.
was watching MMA the other night on sky sports 3 one of the sponsors was a company called Official Watches.co.uk excellent website i bought a watch for much less than i was qouted in the store..GET ON IT BOYS!!!!!!!!!
@ScottishNonBeliever if your talking street fight i think it could go any way 50 50 two arms two legs not bias i like mma but any submissions like an arm-bar, triangle you could bite the man with your teeth and i am sure he would be quick to release ,and choke holds grab the nuts and sweep the legs
@sammmmyrkr456 well no fucking shit. Obviously if a boxer is like 100lbs heavier than a wrestler, the boxers gnna win regardless. It be the same way, the other way around. Size obviously plays a huge difference in the outcome of a fight. I'm not disagreeing with you there. But if you put a diehard wrestler against a diehard boxer and they're both the same weight, the wrestlers gonna win if he can take down the boxer which would be likely to happen.
@sammmmyrkr456 If I was a black belt in Jujuitsu or if i was collegiate wrestler, then i probably could kick a boxers ass. All you would have to do is take him down to the ground and hes done. Want an example? Go watch UFC118 Randy Couture vs James Toney. You'll see exactly what I mean. All boxing is are a bunch of pussies with big gloves just throwing punches and nothing else.
@sammmmyrkr456 Boxing is old school, 20th centrury. Nowadays its not just about how hard you can punch, its about how good you can fight. Fighting consists of not just punching, but wrestling, submissions etc. If you can't do at least 2 of those, then you shouldn't fight at all.
Boxing is part of UFC. One isn't better than the other, they're both MMA. Boxing is a part of MMA. All this talk about how one is better than the other is stupid.
Evander has and always will be one of my favorite fighters, I do though, believe he should call it quits..he's too old and just doesn't have the snap and energy he use to have..u have to know when to stop...
Ive disliked Holyfield his entire career, but this is just sad to see. He´s a champion and should retire with dignity, not clouden his career with bum fights
@yahoopl3 right love both sports im a big gsp and manny fan but a two guys rollin arond on the ground and one on the other seen a lot more gay to me just to give your dumbass brain some insight
@kiddkidd1234 spare me that old cliche you dumb faggot...little shits like you have been saying that for years...that's like saying a sport is gay because they wear shorts and show their legs...boxing is gay because it's not real fighting...it's fighting with dumbfuck rules...pull your head out of your ugly ass, kid
@yahoopl3 lol your profanity shows your desperation and lack of overall vocabulary, you've much to glean from even a 6th grader. Go back to your KKK rallies and your Jersey Shore, or watch your mother take a splattering shit in the wal-mart bathroom and birth ur 5th brother and 2nd cousin simultaneously.
@superhuther son, i want you to do humanity a favor and use your dimunitive mind to accomplish the following tasks
1.) Kick your fat whore mother in the cunt for having the audacity to sire a piece of shit like you
2.) Find a highway and do that Barney dance your other inbred brother taught you how to perform in the trailer. Do it until that one giant ball of shit that you call your body is splattered into millions of tiny little specks of shit. The world can't thank you enough for this.
@kiddkidd1234 hahaha funny how your dumbass think you know eveything, hey dumb fuck do u ever hit your head and think how stupid and dumb you sound when you say shit like boxin is gay?? you fuckin A1 moron. hell come to think of it maybe your gay fag boy, and ohh you got shit still sock in your teeth mouhahaha
toney would be destroyrd by evander in his prime in the first few rounds.Could toney have beat Foreman,Tyson.Bowe,Moorer and have a draw againest lewis no.He happy to knock out a old man but unwilling to face klichco.
@MegaEvilempire That is absolutely untrue Holyfield does poorly against boxers with odd styles no matter if he was in his prime or not JT was too slick for him. Alex Stewart made Holyfield look bad Chris Byrd, Michael Moorer. If you are a semi slick boxer or left hander and Holyfield was befuddled. An orthodox boxer that comes forward was Holyfields bread and butter fight.
@MegaEvilempire errr, foreman was old, tyson was post prison (ie crap) bowe beat holy twice, moorer beat him, lewis beat him and gto robbed with a draw.. you not really making a good case..
Holy sprzedał walkę, lekko się klepią, ostatecznie wywraca się po ciosie w korpus :/ a trener od razu rzuca ręcznik. Bez komentarza:/ I think Holy took money for this fight
Can we all just agree that boxing and MMA are both great sports in their own rights? Without completely changing their training, a typical MMA fighter would fail in boxing, and a typical boxer would fail in MMA.
@metzyboy Ur crazy a street fight involves a whole lot more than what u think it does, whoever is the dirtiest, and most unrelenting wins mma/boxing has nothing to do with it
@elementfool Amen, by the time one got proficient enough to be successful in the other sport, the MMA fighter would become a boxer and the boxer an MMA fighter. Just like I think Nick Diaz is going to lose, but he is approaching it more realistically then Toney did MMA, so I don't think it will be quite the embarrassment. And that has nothing to do with the sport, simply as dumb as Nick Diaz is, he is still smarter than Toney
@elementfool No the training is not so different. Running, jumping, walking long distances with weights, limited weightlifting, bodyweight stuff, etc. The difference is the ruleset. Boxers have been fighting at this ruleset for circa 4 000 years and have developed their technique around that. Boxing is a great base for MMA but you have to make adjustments. Like bobbing and weaving - not such a good idea with kicks involved. I still think the absolute top of boxing would wipe out the MMA crop tho
@DestroyerAlexandros The conditioning might be similar but you can't deny that the training is very different. How many boxers do you see drilling take-down defense?
@elementfool Well obviously the technical training is different but from the viewpoint of exercises they are almost the same across all combative sports. The difference is that boxers need a little more durability to be able to take 12 rounds of pounding whereas MMA guys need a little more power to be able to finish fights quickly with the 4 oz gloves.
@elementfool No, that's not the point. MMA is a mix of styles and we all know boxing is the best paid sport and the most widespread fighting style for a reason, so we feel insulted when a bunch of failed football players turned brazilian jiu jitsu brown belts claim otherwise.
It is just amazing... that an out of shape and undersized man like Toney could do the things he did to Holyfield .... Did you see? ...He totaly controlled him ... the whole fight, and then dropped him like a sac of potatoes! Man .. either Toney is an incredible bozing genius or Holyfield is a total fraud!
@403766 -- Is there a bigger idiot than you! If Holyfield felt he was past his prime, then what was he doing in the ring? As far as I know he is still fighting and he holds a world title (albeit a Mickey mouse one). Anyhow, how about Toney, was he in his prime then? What a loser you are .... By the way, if you wanna if Holyfield is past his prime, just let him play with your wife for 30 min; she'll tell you whether he is past is prime or not! That way we will definitely have the true answer!
And yes after the 2nd lewis fight he turned slow and past it he starts loosing to shitty guys like ruiz, a guy cannot fight in the sort of battles holyfield did for 2 decades andbe fine, hes over 40 here.
Watch him take undisputed champ buster's belt and then see him fight for some kfc belt he is way outta it, he was refuseda boxing license by some states due to "diminishing skills"
you stupid cunt dick riding dana white fans...stop bringing retarded topics(mma vs boxing)
to these videos there is no point to them, both are fighting sports and???
totally different obviously, why watch this if your just gonna talk about mma is better? go watch what you like dumb asses
oh and a last thing, to this mma makes more money than boxing. why the fuck does it matter how much the owner of the company makes? the top class mma fighters DO NOT make as much as top class boxers so wtf
@Nemesis2151 Lol shows how much you know about this dying sport,WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO world Heavyweight champion signed a $780,000 5 year contract 4 years ago, Randy coutor made over $800,000 in Promotion deals alone this year and cain velasquez current world heavyweight number 1 UFC champ is made over $600,000 USD just from his last 4 fights alone and GSP signed a contract for $865,000 USD just for 2011 excluding UFC and clothing brand promotions....K.O
@legit2085 i don't even wanna argue with you im just going to point out you brought the heavyweight division...the worst division currently for boxing man....of course the KLIT is gonna make less than everyone
@legit2085 maybe hw boxing aint paying that well, but look at the kind of money mayweather, pacquiao etc make, then stfu you clown. UFC fighters dont make shit compared to boxers. A pro boxing noob in the UK (even with losing records, the type of bums that are used to build a record for talented fighters) makes more than most new ufc fighters.
@aqlpskwo i WAS a big boxing fan until mma took OVER. you have to compare because boxing has been the number one fighting form for the u.s.a. now its not even considered exciting. i dont watch friday night fights and hbo has wack fight on. there is no comparison.... so thats why we shouldnt compare... hell look at the old ass bums fighting in this fight.... thats all they have are has-beens. fighting is fighting and boxers couldnt win in a fight with an mma pro. point blank.
@sliver64209 Don´t compare mma to boxing seeing as you changed to boxing to mma so quick proves that your no boxing fan. and i´ve never seen a mma go to boxing but i´ve seen boxers go to ufc and mma and still win.
@aqlpskwo Why compare?? Because thats all everyone seems to do these days. I too am sick of hearing boxing fans say its still the no.1 fighting sport in the world, quite simply, its not!
IF ANYONE THINKS THAT BOXING IS STILL NUMBER ONE..... THEN CHECK THE STATS...... UFC TAKES IN WAY MORE CASH THAN BOXING IN A YEAR.... BOXING HAS ONE SUPER FIGHT A YEAR, THATS IT.... UFC HAS 4-5 BIG PAY-PER VIEW EVENTS A YEAR. I USED TO WATCH BOXING, NOW THERE IS NO ONE LEFT, AND NO ONE IS UP AND COMING. ALL HAS-BEENS AND NEVER-WAS.
Another ufc vs boxing subject. I love the ufc. Becouse they actualy have big tittle fights like every month and boxing doesn't. But honestly there's only a few fights I would pay to see of the ufc. I rather pay for boxing. It's more skill. Plus ufc will never be as big as boxiing , no matter what Dana white says.
@CaMaRo1RoC89 it's already way bigger than boxing is. Maybe not as big as boxing was at its prime, but for now it is. When UFC hits its prime I'm sure it will be bigger than boxing's prime.
@XxPropheticxX At the end of the day... who gives a monkeys ass if MMA is more popular than boxing.. as a matter of fact its not,, Boxing still has highest PPV sales.. if you like MMA watch it,, and bloody shut up.. they are 2 different sports.. its like saying ummm football is more popular than rugby... so bloody what/!!!!!!!
@LastWhiteRhino Right on the money, Boxing is a sport the sweet science, I personally don't give a dam if Toney can defend himself on the street or in a parking lott,
@CaMaRo1RoC89 Grappling alone is more complicated than boxing.
Ufc never going to be as big as boxing? We'll lets take a look here. Ufc isn't a sport. Mixed-martial arts is. So there we have it, mma is overcoming boxing. happy?
@fakeandgay69 theres no big fights in boxing at this moment.... and the only ppv fights im going to pay for in MMA is Diaz vs GSP and jds vs Cain...boxing has bigger #s in ppv fights when big names fight for example (de la hoya vs Mayweather) plus just look at how much the difference is moneywise on fighter salary... so how is ufc bigger then boxing?
@fakeandgay69 well yeah no shit... who wanted to see that fight? old ass mosley.......im talking big fights.....like oscar dela hoya vs Mayweather.....in their prime both...u should know better
@CaMaRo1RoC89 delahoya/Mayweather was 4 years ago. Mosley/Mayweather is the last fight I can think off that got big promotion. One gigantic event every half a decade doesn't make a successful sport. Let alone more successful than an organization that consistently puts out solid events every month.
@fakeandgay69 lol! yes i agree whit u... but u still dont get it... its 11:35pm here...the ufc is great.. alot of big fights in the near future...thats what i watch mostly now....bu its never going to be as big as boxing in its prime....
@CaMaRo1RoC89 why not? The UFC has been on a path of seemingly exponential growth for the past decade now... Besides, your original comment said that it would never be as big as boxing is now rather than boxing was in it's prime. How do you define big? You agree with all the points I say and admit to watching more UFC/MMA than boxing.
@fakeandgay69 yes i do watch it more since theirs more big fights at this momentt... and what i mean for big is just look back at how huge boxing was...and the growth of the ufc isnt the same as it was 2 years ago... its still growing, but just not as fast... the fight in mma that is going to make top dollar is gsp vs diaz and cain vs jds in the near future... but those will fall short to a big fight between mayweather vs paquiao...cant wait for JDS vs Cain... my money is on Cain
@fakeandgay69 ahahahaha stop trolling dude boxing is just as big as ufc (if not biggest the old farts like boxing). they are different combats sports its like comparing NBA with NFL. some pople like boxing some like ufc now stfu and go back to ya mums basement (hating cause your a fail troll)
im sick of this boxing and mma debate. i love boxing its great entertainment, but i also have respect for mma , it requres lots of technique, and to say its not entertaining is fucking stupid. Just watch Anderson Silvas KO's.
why not compare MMA to boxing I meen all these boxers talk smack about MMA and then when they get beat everybody wants to be like dont compare the two because they are completely different. Well they are digging there own graves because they think they can compete with MMA. I meen you dont see MMA fighters running there mouths to boxers even though anderson silva went and boxed just to prove a point and he actually did good. So I meen boxing is cool and all but you cant compare.
Boxing... The sport for those who like standing still while getting hit... UFC for those who like an athletic competition with more than getting punched and standing still.
@MrMaxoveride So if someone in the MMA came to boxing and tried to fight someone they would die too. You can't say that. Plus if James Toney worked on take down defense for 20 plus years he would slay the fucking shit out of any UFC fighter.
Couture is an excellent athlete, no question. However, if I'm in a barfight staring down 2 opponents, guess where all the grabbing, hugging, and submission moves are going to get me?
MMA is not "fighting". Ask Couture to take on two opponents at once and see how far his MMA clutch/grab/choke skills take him. On the other hand, put Toney in a bar fight against 2 opponents and my guess is he lays them both out AND sticks around for the all-you-can-eat buffet afterwards.
@otrexotrex Ok just so you know most MMA actually all of them know stand up not just grappling I meen it is a all around type thing you have to know stand up as well as ground I bet if I get in a fight with you and take you down you will not know what to do. I meen alot are kickboxers and all other types of stand up. I meen I do MMA and I have seperate classes just for stand up. I did stand up for about 8 years before I went into the military and started ground after that.
UFC has long taken over boxing. And after the James Toney beat down that Randy Couture gave him, it signifies just that. I have always enjoyed boxing and the grace that it carries with it. But Toney has put a bad taste in everyone's mouth for boxing. Absolutely no respect for a legendary Holyfield. Tony's great on his feet, but looked like a fish outta water when he was on his back fighting for his life and reputation @ 118. UFC baby!!!
i hope in return randy will step in a boxing ring and fight toney just like toney lets see whos a worl class athlete randy admit it himself if he is on boxing ring and try to box with james,james will knock him out in 1st round..
You know why people aren't showing him respect? Its because he talked a lot of shit, he disrespected MMA. If we was a good sport about it i do not think people would talk shit but he was a little bitch. When he stepped into the octagon he found out what a REAL FIGHT is... Boxing is a sport, do not call it fighting because you all know what happens when boxers get into a real fight. They cry for dear life helpless on the ground not knowing what to do.
I'm dissappointed toney didn't throw a punch at couture, but people gotta stop discrediting Toney. I don't see MMA fighters in the boxing ring, until Anderson Silva does it. Then we will see. Peace.
@kkillbrb It doesn't matter...Toney was talking shit for about a year prior to his UFC debut last night..saying how UFC fighters were inferior. Toney the Phony got murdered last night vs. a real fighter like Couture. Boxing can move over..UFC is the new fighting sport.
@kkillbrb Well, it's funny that you say that. Because Toney had all the time in the world to train for Couture, but he chose not to do so until it was too late. He thought that he could just talk shit and destroy Couture on the feet, but in the end, he got choked out like a little bitch. It's okay, boxing fans; you still have Floyd :-P
@LIGHTNINGLEVIS for someone with Couture's abilities? That's like one minute compared to Couture's YEARS of experience. Yeah, I'll give Toney that; if he got into a street fight with some scrub, he would destroy him. But against someone with more than one weapon to use, he's done for. That was shown in the Couture fight. I'm not saying that Toney is a garbage fighter, because he is not; I'm saying that he COULD'VE trained longer if he wanted. He rather chose to disregard his WRESTLING training.
@masamuneofchrome You are wrong though, Toney trained for a long period of time. Even still, 9 months is not enough to learn a sport. Furthermore, some of these elements are natural I'm sure, and it's pretty hard for Toney to imprint things into his mind when he is no longer a young buck. I give a lot of respect to Toney, not for the trash-talking, but for the fact he stepped up to the plate and tried something that he wasn't the best in. Hopefully if he decides to come back, he's better.
Of course Toney would loose its an mma fight he fought randy who has 16 + years experience in mma. Toney trained for a couple of months.
If this would have been a boxing match Toney would make him look like a fool.
The reason why James Toney is over weight is because he has a brain injury that causes his body to not produce Testosterone. James could take injections of Testosterone but its considered as doping.
@boozaaa Haha... you still have Floyd. Don't worry; once he leaves boxing, though, boxing is dead. No one except the die-hard fans watches it now. It's obsolete; why would you watch a sport where you just fight with your hands, when you can watch a sport where EVERY aspect of fighting is tested? Yeah, I loved boxing as a kid; but now that era is over, and now the UFC is taking over.
evander ear so fuck up
MrGiovannii90 1 month ago
They say James Toney would beat Mike Tyson In a boxing match and some what believe it. But I realy think James would try to fight Mike instead of boxing him and he would get knock if he does.lol And thats why idk who whould win against Toney and Mike thats realy a toss up ring side please.lmbo
ken162008 1 month ago
Toney is one of the most underrated boxers ever. I love to see fighters emulate his style in the ring!
Warmonger1178 2 months ago
JT, greatest pure talent in boxing history.
Robstailey 3 months ago
@Robstailey Yep, very talented..............too bad he stuck around so long.........now he sounds pretty bad and has to take meds due to the fact that his pitiutary is not kicking out enough of certain hormones........brain damage.
tickyul 2 months ago
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James Toney is a very under rated Heavyweight, his fights are actually quite exciting and to see big men exchanging like they do in a James Toney fight; is rare to say the least. His fights at Heavyweight are underrated and regardless of his maybe 15 % body fat as a heavyweight, the fights are quite fun to watch. Know something to say something.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 3 months ago
One of the best "throwback" fighters of our earlier generation. Toney knows how to pick, roll, and slip punches. If you want to learn the art of defense, watch James Toney. "A true craftsmen; of his craft (despite the negativity. I, merely, watch his skills)."
LILHERCULES707 4 months ago
1:03 James Toney against the ropes is hilarious.
LedWhisky69 4 months ago
ha .. 2 cheater head butters going at it ..
KDZigZag 4 months ago
I'm by no means a Klitschko fan but these guys wouldn't have a chance against Viatli in his prime.....even Wladimir is so tall that you can't get inside their jab and they do that for 12 and they go home with the title
springfield03sniper 4 months ago
@springfield03sniper vatali yeah but not vlad.
Veechie4short 3 months ago
Holyfield was still a good fighter when this fight took place. People need to stop trying to deminish James Toney.He beat Ruiz and drawed Ruiz, He beat a very good Rahman leading up to this fight. He is 7-3 since this fight and beat Nikolai Valuev in 2008 for the WBA but was robbed of the victory.He's fought some game opponents since and is still winning. Holyfield is fighting Aleksandr Povetkin in december 2011. So stop discriminating Toney, He beat down a still great fighter in Holyfield.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 5 months ago 4
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 Burger King was closing so James closed the show...Then he closed BK
djk28161 3 months ago
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 holyfield was still a GOOD fighter, but he was a great fighter in his prime, your statement is almost like saying larry holmes beat down a great fighter in ali when everyone knows that ali was just to old and had taken to much in his career to fight
jimmycollins1234 3 months ago
@jimmycollins1234 no that is far from true , This Holyfield that fought Toney would rape Ali that fought Homes. Ali barely through punches. Holyfield fought a war in this fight and would have beat most any other heavyweight fighter on that night; but not James Toney.
AKAMUSICkeepit100 3 months ago
@AKAMUSICkeepit100 are u stupid? holyfield was finished when this fight took place. are u saying james toney wouldve beat holyfield in his prime? if so ur a fucking idiot. james toney is a really good fighter. holyfield is a great fighter. theres a difference. he was old for this fight.
cwalkingweasle 3 months ago
@cwalkingweasle I can agree that Holyfield is past his prime in this fight. Finished? Definately not. Toney himself wasn't exactly in superb form for this fight, either. Don't forget that he wasn't always a heavyweight.
Warmonger1178 2 months ago
@Warmonger1178 yea i feel u but lets be honest. if they wouldve fought at both thier primes holyfeild would have beat him. holyfield was a animal
cwalkingweasle 2 months ago
@cwalkingweasle I would think that you're right...Holyfield probably would have beat Toney if they fought when they were both in their prime, likely because Holyfield was a heavyweight and Toney was a middleweight (I think...maybe welterweight?)...
Warmonger1178 2 months ago
@Warmonger1178 Toney would have to cut off his legs to be a welterweight. He struggled with making weight as a middleweight. He was at his best as a light heavy/cruiser. A close to prime Holyfield would work Toney over. Just watch him in this fight....When have you ever seen him tire so easily? When have you ever seen him struggle so much with his left hook? Something was seriously wrong with him.....Looked like the 3rd Bowe fight all over again.
johntvette 2 months ago
@Warmonger1178 he fought at middleweight. but remember that holyfield was a blown up heavyweight. he wasnt naturally a heavyweight. he was much smaller than everybody else but the reason he did it was because all the big money fights were at heavyweight and he knew that was the only way to get respect. hes still underrated. ppl dont give holyfield enough credit
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AKAMUSICkeepit100 5 months ago
Toney displayed some amazing skill in this fight and Ken Shamrock says he,s gonna stand n bang with him. If Toney can regain the form he showed on this night Ken's gonna get KO'd.
BoogieKnight1976 5 months ago
@cpaignforeva2010 yea they had day jobs and became mma champs....toney had a boxing championship and got treated like a prostitute LOLOLOLOL
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
@cpaignforeva2010 lmao gay porn. thats all you ignorants have to say....yes go and watch paquiao the best boxer in the world fight worthless fighters.. i bet thats really fun.
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
@cpaignforeva2010 thats exactly why boxing is dead. overpaid fighters who get to fight whoever they want at a time of their choosing(gayweather) in mma we see the fights we want and fighters get paid less...maybe thats why its a better sport. idiot
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
@daisylovesmoy -i lol at u mma douches who say boxing is dead...it's like you all feel threatened by it or something...boxing has been around for a hell of a lot longer than mma and it's here to stay...so get over it.
jimmah1967 5 months ago
@jimmah1967 lol the up and comer is always the threat...no the old timer you idiot. boxing is threatened by mma not the other way around...use your brain.
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
Bad think about Toney entering MMA is that now you have MMA nutcases hanging around every JT thread..
TheBestBoxingGame 5 months ago 3
@TheBestBoxingGame A true fight fan appreciates all combative sports.
Immortalsyn83 3 months ago
@Immortalsyn83 And I do, I just dont appreciate MMA nutcases.
TheBestBoxingGame 3 months ago
@Immortalsyn83 Which means I like MMA, but not MMA nutcases, they are not true fight fans, only MMA fans, and wants sports as boxing to die. Thats why they around boxing threads like flies on shit.
TheBestBoxingGame 3 months ago
@TheBestBoxingGame Neither sport is in any jeopardy of going extinct, they are both billion dollar industries.
Immortalsyn83 3 months ago
@cpaignforeva2010 Too bad boxing is going down and MMA is going up. Even Hopkins says MMA is better. And also your odviously butthurt if you call it mmgay. Dont hate homie!
Intensity1994 5 months ago
cotto loses and fights paquiao....clottey loses and fights paquiao.....margarito loses and fights paquiao...marquez loses and fights paquiao....mayweather.....rarely fights....damn this sport is dead. LMAO
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
@daisylovesmoy -So Shammy's gonna stand n bang with Toney...that fight should last about 10 seconds..LOOOOL.
jimmah1967 5 months ago
@jimmah1967 LOOOOL...you are funny....so anyway did you see that fight between couture and Toney?...that toney is a beast mah boy! pay yo light bill! LMAOROFL!!!!!!!! HAHAHAHAHA
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
@daisylovesmoy -If Randy was to do a boxing match with Toney that wouldnt make it outa the first rd either...Randy is always gonna win an mma match with a boxer.
jimmah1967 5 months ago
@cpaignforeva2010 lol thats exactly what hopkins said now hes all over the ufc's nuts LMAOOOOOOOO bitch cry because your sport is half dead.
daisylovesmoy 5 months ago
I remember when Holyfield was stopped by Bowe in 1995,many pundits and experts,including Ray Leonard,begged him to stop as he was considered finished even then.Taking nothing away from Toney but this fight was 8-9 years after Evander was already considered past his peak.Possibly even at his peak he would have struggled with Toney who was always slick.
layyah0905 5 months ago
boxers are more skilled than mma fighters? at what? Boxing? Yeah... I tend to agree
georgiadawgsfan69 6 months ago
@elementfool. i agree.DOPE
fortyozdog 6 months ago
was watching MMA the other night on sky sports 3 one of the sponsors was a company called Official Watches.co.uk excellent website i bought a watch for much less than i was qouted in the store..GET ON IT BOYS!!!!!!!!!
MrGosti07 6 months ago
you can say that except ufc has more skill watch how crazy a olympic wrestling match in the lower weights like 140 you need everything
MCJOHNSON95 6 months ago
James toney easily wins the award for the most rolls on the back of one man's neck.
jaypee242 6 months ago
@ScottishNonBeliever if your talking street fight i think it could go any way 50 50 two arms two legs not bias i like mma but any submissions like an arm-bar, triangle you could bite the man with your teeth and i am sure he would be quick to release ,and choke holds grab the nuts and sweep the legs
555gypsie 7 months ago
@ScottishNonBeliever HAHAHA mma homos always have jokes.
2r3notgoodas1 7 months ago
@sammmmyrkr456 well no fucking shit. Obviously if a boxer is like 100lbs heavier than a wrestler, the boxers gnna win regardless. It be the same way, the other way around. Size obviously plays a huge difference in the outcome of a fight. I'm not disagreeing with you there. But if you put a diehard wrestler against a diehard boxer and they're both the same weight, the wrestlers gonna win if he can take down the boxer which would be likely to happen.
KBeASt95x 7 months ago
@sammmmyrkr456 If I was a black belt in Jujuitsu or if i was collegiate wrestler, then i probably could kick a boxers ass. All you would have to do is take him down to the ground and hes done. Want an example? Go watch UFC118 Randy Couture vs James Toney. You'll see exactly what I mean. All boxing is are a bunch of pussies with big gloves just throwing punches and nothing else.
KBeASt95x 7 months ago
@sammmmyrkr456 Boxing is old school, 20th centrury. Nowadays its not just about how hard you can punch, its about how good you can fight. Fighting consists of not just punching, but wrestling, submissions etc. If you can't do at least 2 of those, then you shouldn't fight at all.
KBeASt95x 7 months ago
the left hook that evander throws at 42-43 seconds looks fake. i never noticed that before but now i do.
Lou1ki11 7 months ago
Boxing is part of UFC. One isn't better than the other, they're both MMA. Boxing is a part of MMA. All this talk about how one is better than the other is stupid.
KBeASt95x 7 months ago
does the left hook that evander throws at 42-43 seconds look fake. i never noticed that before but now i do. This fight could have been fixed
Lou1ki11 8 months ago
toney did well to stop iron chinned holyfield not many have
feckatroll 9 months ago
Evander has and always will be one of my favorite fighters, I do though, believe he should call it quits..he's too old and just doesn't have the snap and energy he use to have..u have to know when to stop...
chrisarcade 9 months ago
if toney got back down to this weight he could have a couple good fights left.
Robstailey 10 months ago
Ive disliked Holyfield his entire career, but this is just sad to see. He´s a champion and should retire with dignity, not clouden his career with bum fights
ar83es 10 months ago
in there prime at cruiser weight this fight would've been the G.O.A.T! Real men Fighting...........the last of there kind in boxing.
LVSWTZ 10 months ago
lol, boxing is so gay
yahoopl3 11 months ago
@yahoopl3 right love both sports im a big gsp and manny fan but a two guys rollin arond on the ground and one on the other seen a lot more gay to me just to give your dumbass brain some insight
kiddkidd1234 11 months ago
@kiddkidd1234 spare me that old cliche you dumb faggot...little shits like you have been saying that for years...that's like saying a sport is gay because they wear shorts and show their legs...boxing is gay because it's not real fighting...it's fighting with dumbfuck rules...pull your head out of your ugly ass, kid
yahoopl3 11 months ago
@yahoopl3 lol your profanity shows your desperation and lack of overall vocabulary, you've much to glean from even a 6th grader. Go back to your KKK rallies and your Jersey Shore, or watch your mother take a splattering shit in the wal-mart bathroom and birth ur 5th brother and 2nd cousin simultaneously.
GG :)
superhuther 11 months ago
@superhuther son, i want you to do humanity a favor and use your dimunitive mind to accomplish the following tasks
1.) Kick your fat whore mother in the cunt for having the audacity to sire a piece of shit like you
2.) Find a highway and do that Barney dance your other inbred brother taught you how to perform in the trailer. Do it until that one giant ball of shit that you call your body is splattered into millions of tiny little specks of shit. The world can't thank you enough for this.
yahoopl3 11 months ago
@kiddkidd1234 hahaha funny how your dumbass think you know eveything, hey dumb fuck do u ever hit your head and think how stupid and dumb you sound when you say shit like boxin is gay?? you fuckin A1 moron. hell come to think of it maybe your gay fag boy, and ohh you got shit still sock in your teeth mouhahaha
kiddkidd1234 11 months ago
@LazaaMMA if you're good enough at boxing, you won't get taken to the ground.
Footwork, keeping distance from someone who likes to uses takedowns and jabs jabs jabs to wear the other guy down.
Nhia89 11 months ago
@LazaaMMA yeah my bad, i dont know why i had pictured an mma fighter the wrong way haha
mikeldelapuente 11 months ago
@LazaaMMA :O not always i mean, it can be a thai fighter taught to grapple, or a kickboxer also taught to grapple! ;)
mikeldelapuente 11 months ago
boring, too slow
LukaRaPtoR 11 months ago
two big steroid users
kingzula 11 months ago
toney would be destroyrd by evander in his prime in the first few rounds.Could toney have beat Foreman,Tyson.Bowe,Moorer and have a draw againest lewis no.He happy to knock out a old man but unwilling to face klichco.
MegaEvilempire 1 year ago
@MegaEvilempire That is absolutely untrue Holyfield does poorly against boxers with odd styles no matter if he was in his prime or not JT was too slick for him. Alex Stewart made Holyfield look bad Chris Byrd, Michael Moorer. If you are a semi slick boxer or left hander and Holyfield was befuddled. An orthodox boxer that comes forward was Holyfields bread and butter fight.
Crambo77 11 months ago
@MegaEvilempire errr, foreman was old, tyson was post prison (ie crap) bowe beat holy twice, moorer beat him, lewis beat him and gto robbed with a draw.. you not really making a good case..
evol121 6 months ago
Holyfield is a legend
Deeznuwts 1 year ago
@Deeznuwts legend suck cock knoked out
dartstas 2 months ago
1:07 :D
BoxingandStrikeforce 1 year ago
Holy sprzedał walkę, lekko się klepią, ostatecznie wywraca się po ciosie w korpus :/ a trener od razu rzuca ręcznik. Bez komentarza:/ I think Holy took money for this fight
elmander88 1 year ago
i hate toney how could u hurt a legend u bastard go find a tredmill and use it for once dammit
AskMeAgain2 1 year ago
stop comparing boxing to mma they're both difficult in their own different areas. Each one is challenging in its own way.
SevanEsaian 1 year ago
Can we all just agree that boxing and MMA are both great sports in their own rights? Without completely changing their training, a typical MMA fighter would fail in boxing, and a typical boxer would fail in MMA.
elementfool 1 year ago 32
@elementfool but in a streetfight with just two guys doing whatever it takes to win the mma fighter will always do it
metzyboy 10 months ago
@metzyboy who gives a shit shut up kid.
xen001234 10 months ago
@metzyboy Ur crazy a street fight involves a whole lot more than what u think it does, whoever is the dirtiest, and most unrelenting wins mma/boxing has nothing to do with it
Jay8941 9 months ago
@elementfool Amen, by the time one got proficient enough to be successful in the other sport, the MMA fighter would become a boxer and the boxer an MMA fighter. Just like I think Nick Diaz is going to lose, but he is approaching it more realistically then Toney did MMA, so I don't think it will be quite the embarrassment. And that has nothing to do with the sport, simply as dumb as Nick Diaz is, he is still smarter than Toney
visduke 9 months ago
@elementfool No the training is not so different. Running, jumping, walking long distances with weights, limited weightlifting, bodyweight stuff, etc. The difference is the ruleset. Boxers have been fighting at this ruleset for circa 4 000 years and have developed their technique around that. Boxing is a great base for MMA but you have to make adjustments. Like bobbing and weaving - not such a good idea with kicks involved. I still think the absolute top of boxing would wipe out the MMA crop tho
DestroyerAlexandros 8 months ago
@DestroyerAlexandros The conditioning might be similar but you can't deny that the training is very different. How many boxers do you see drilling take-down defense?
elementfool 8 months ago
@elementfool Well obviously the technical training is different but from the viewpoint of exercises they are almost the same across all combative sports. The difference is that boxers need a little more durability to be able to take 12 rounds of pounding whereas MMA guys need a little more power to be able to finish fights quickly with the 4 oz gloves.
DestroyerAlexandros 8 months ago
@DestroyerAlexandros So, yes, the training is very different. My original statement still stands.
elementfool 7 months ago
@elementfool No, that's not the point. MMA is a mix of styles and we all know boxing is the best paid sport and the most widespread fighting style for a reason, so we feel insulted when a bunch of failed football players turned brazilian jiu jitsu brown belts claim otherwise.
DestroyerAlexandros 5 months ago
love it. this holifield was trying his dirty tactics, headbutting, but toney's head is way harder
SayNoToBrainWashing 1 year ago
It is just amazing... that an out of shape and undersized man like Toney could do the things he did to Holyfield .... Did you see? ...He totaly controlled him ... the whole fight, and then dropped him like a sac of potatoes! Man .. either Toney is an incredible bozing genius or Holyfield is a total fraud!
hakmetlakdar 1 year ago
@hakmetlakdar
Well your an idiot, hoylfield is wayyyyyy past it here and the far superior boxer in his prime
403766 1 year ago
@403766 -- Is there a bigger idiot than you! If Holyfield felt he was past his prime, then what was he doing in the ring? As far as I know he is still fighting and he holds a world title (albeit a Mickey mouse one). Anyhow, how about Toney, was he in his prime then? What a loser you are .... By the way, if you wanna if Holyfield is past his prime, just let him play with your wife for 30 min; she'll tell you whether he is past is prime or not! That way we will definitely have the true answer!
hakmetlakdar 1 year ago
@hakmetlakdar
Becuase he's broke and enjoys figthing prehaps?
And yes after the 2nd lewis fight he turned slow and past it he starts loosing to shitty guys like ruiz, a guy cannot fight in the sort of battles holyfield did for 2 decades andbe fine, hes over 40 here.
Watch him take undisputed champ buster's belt and then see him fight for some kfc belt he is way outta it, he was refuseda boxing license by some states due to "diminishing skills"
403766 1 year ago
Toney is a fuck.holyfield should win this fight!dammit
theflagfc 1 year ago
you stupid cunt dick riding dana white fans...stop bringing retarded topics(mma vs boxing)
to these videos there is no point to them, both are fighting sports and???
totally different obviously, why watch this if your just gonna talk about mma is better? go watch what you like dumb asses
oh and a last thing, to this mma makes more money than boxing. why the fuck does it matter how much the owner of the company makes? the top class mma fighters DO NOT make as much as top class boxers so wtf
Nemesis2151 1 year ago
@Nemesis2151 Lol shows how much you know about this dying sport,WLADIMIR KLITSCHKO world Heavyweight champion signed a $780,000 5 year contract 4 years ago, Randy coutor made over $800,000 in Promotion deals alone this year and cain velasquez current world heavyweight number 1 UFC champ is made over $600,000 USD just from his last 4 fights alone and GSP signed a contract for $865,000 USD just for 2011 excluding UFC and clothing brand promotions....K.O
legit2085 1 year ago
@legit2085 i don't even wanna argue with you im just going to point out you brought the heavyweight division...the worst division currently for boxing man....of course the KLIT is gonna make less than everyone
Nemesis2151 1 year ago
@legit2085 dude 15 years ago mike tyson was gettin 12 million dollars for a single fight ! ( iam both a boxing and mma fan)
taijihitman 1 year ago
@taijihitman mma fighters are severely underpaid. they make up for it in endorsements tho or some other manner i'm guessing
JaymezF 1 year ago
@legit2085 maybe hw boxing aint paying that well, but look at the kind of money mayweather, pacquiao etc make, then stfu you clown. UFC fighters dont make shit compared to boxers. A pro boxing noob in the UK (even with losing records, the type of bums that are used to build a record for talented fighters) makes more than most new ufc fighters.
k4n31985 1 year ago
@legit2085 sorry to bust your bubble but boxing fighters still make more $ than mma fighters.
mrgoodbear 1 year ago
you fuckin mma dick riders stop bringing retarded conversations (mma vs boxing)
to these videos please there is no point in them
Nemesis2151 1 year ago
a couple of steriod users
kingzula 1 year ago
@aqlpskwo i WAS a big boxing fan until mma took OVER. you have to compare because boxing has been the number one fighting form for the u.s.a. now its not even considered exciting. i dont watch friday night fights and hbo has wack fight on. there is no comparison.... so thats why we shouldnt compare... hell look at the old ass bums fighting in this fight.... thats all they have are has-beens. fighting is fighting and boxers couldnt win in a fight with an mma pro. point blank.
sliver64209 1 year ago
@sliver64209 Don´t compare mma to boxing seeing as you changed to boxing to mma so quick proves that your no boxing fan. and i´ve never seen a mma go to boxing but i´ve seen boxers go to ufc and mma and still win.
meynard1 1 year ago
@aqlpskwo Why compare?? Because thats all everyone seems to do these days. I too am sick of hearing boxing fans say its still the no.1 fighting sport in the world, quite simply, its not!
riflz 1 year ago
IF ANYONE THINKS THAT BOXING IS STILL NUMBER ONE..... THEN CHECK THE STATS...... UFC TAKES IN WAY MORE CASH THAN BOXING IN A YEAR.... BOXING HAS ONE SUPER FIGHT A YEAR, THATS IT.... UFC HAS 4-5 BIG PAY-PER VIEW EVENTS A YEAR. I USED TO WATCH BOXING, NOW THERE IS NO ONE LEFT, AND NO ONE IS UP AND COMING. ALL HAS-BEENS AND NEVER-WAS.
sliver64209 1 year ago
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layyah0905 1 year ago
Another ufc vs boxing subject. I love the ufc. Becouse they actualy have big tittle fights like every month and boxing doesn't. But honestly there's only a few fights I would pay to see of the ufc. I rather pay for boxing. It's more skill. Plus ufc will never be as big as boxiing , no matter what Dana white says.
CaMaRo1RoC89 1 year ago 7
@CaMaRo1RoC89 its already bigger than boxing?
CannedKoolaid 1 year ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 it's already way bigger than boxing is. Maybe not as big as boxing was at its prime, but for now it is. When UFC hits its prime I'm sure it will be bigger than boxing's prime.
XxPropheticxX 1 year ago
@XxPropheticxX At the end of the day... who gives a monkeys ass if MMA is more popular than boxing.. as a matter of fact its not,, Boxing still has highest PPV sales.. if you like MMA watch it,, and bloody shut up.. they are 2 different sports.. its like saying ummm football is more popular than rugby... so bloody what/!!!!!!!
LastWhiteRhino 1 year ago
@LastWhiteRhino Right on the money, Boxing is a sport the sweet science, I personally don't give a dam if Toney can defend himself on the street or in a parking lott,
TysonFan911 1 year ago
@XxPropheticxX
Bro UFC is not as big as boxing and never will be.
403766 1 year ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 it already has yeah muay thai with kickboxing boxing wrestling bjj judo is way more skill than hands. and it is already passing boxing
ageeeeeeeeee 6 months ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89
l o l
EnterTheTerrible 6 months ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 Grappling alone is more complicated than boxing.
Ufc never going to be as big as boxing? We'll lets take a look here. Ufc isn't a sport. Mixed-martial arts is. So there we have it, mma is overcoming boxing. happy?
BehemothSuper 6 months ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 UFC gets more ppvs per year. So how is Boxing bigger than the UFC?
fakeandgay69 6 months ago
@fakeandgay69 theres no big fights in boxing at this moment.... and the only ppv fights im going to pay for in MMA is Diaz vs GSP and jds vs Cain...boxing has bigger #s in ppv fights when big names fight for example (de la hoya vs Mayweather) plus just look at how much the difference is moneywise on fighter salary... so how is ufc bigger then boxing?
CaMaRo1RoC89 6 months ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 Mosley/Mayweather had less buys than UFC 100.
fakeandgay69 6 months ago
@fakeandgay69 well yeah no shit... who wanted to see that fight? old ass mosley.......im talking big fights.....like oscar dela hoya vs Mayweather.....in their prime both...u should know better
CaMaRo1RoC89 6 months ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 delahoya/Mayweather was 4 years ago. Mosley/Mayweather is the last fight I can think off that got big promotion. One gigantic event every half a decade doesn't make a successful sport. Let alone more successful than an organization that consistently puts out solid events every month.
fakeandgay69 6 months ago
@fakeandgay69 lol! yes i agree whit u... but u still dont get it... its 11:35pm here...the ufc is great.. alot of big fights in the near future...thats what i watch mostly now....bu its never going to be as big as boxing in its prime....
CaMaRo1RoC89 6 months ago
@CaMaRo1RoC89 why not? The UFC has been on a path of seemingly exponential growth for the past decade now... Besides, your original comment said that it would never be as big as boxing is now rather than boxing was in it's prime. How do you define big? You agree with all the points I say and admit to watching more UFC/MMA than boxing.
fakeandgay69 6 months ago
@fakeandgay69 yes i do watch it more since theirs more big fights at this momentt... and what i mean for big is just look back at how huge boxing was...and the growth of the ufc isnt the same as it was 2 years ago... its still growing, but just not as fast... the fight in mma that is going to make top dollar is gsp vs diaz and cain vs jds in the near future... but those will fall short to a big fight between mayweather vs paquiao...cant wait for JDS vs Cain... my money is on Cain
CaMaRo1RoC89 6 months ago
@fakeandgay69 ahahahaha stop trolling dude boxing is just as big as ufc (if not biggest the old farts like boxing). they are different combats sports its like comparing NBA with NFL. some pople like boxing some like ufc now stfu and go back to ya mums basement (hating cause your a fail troll)
rhysbaby2504 6 months ago
another mike tyson lol
DethronedTyrant 1 year ago
im sick of this boxing and mma debate. i love boxing its great entertainment, but i also have respect for mma , it requres lots of technique, and to say its not entertaining is fucking stupid. Just watch Anderson Silvas KO's.
pwningnoobsftw 1 year ago
why not compare MMA to boxing I meen all these boxers talk smack about MMA and then when they get beat everybody wants to be like dont compare the two because they are completely different. Well they are digging there own graves because they think they can compete with MMA. I meen you dont see MMA fighters running there mouths to boxers even though anderson silva went and boxed just to prove a point and he actually did good. So I meen boxing is cool and all but you cant compare.
cornbread198213 1 year ago
@cornbread198213 Anderson silva did not do good in boxing. Actually he won one, and got koed in another. By a bum.
TheBestBoxingGame 5 months ago
put brock lesnar in the ring with a top ten heavyweight and watch what happens.
lights out...
keithsink 1 year ago
@keithsink yeah, glassjaw lesnar. aint he great
nomadicsx 1 year ago
@keithsink well of course hes not a boxer you moron
amrfts 1 year ago
Stop comparing Boxing to UFC!!!
MKvsdctester2 1 year ago 54
@MKvsdctester2 you mean to mma, ufc is just a freakin promotion.
Mannypacquia0 1 year ago
@MKvsdctester2
Boxing... The sport for those who like standing still while getting hit... UFC for those who like an athletic competition with more than getting punched and standing still.
larsen550 1 year ago
@larsen550 ?boxing standing still and getting hit...wtf do u watch
aschindler22 1 year ago
@MKvsdctester2 boxing can kill ufc fighters in less than 30 sec
Dochopper46 1 year ago
@Dochopper46 that's assuming it's a boxing match.
mma fighters KICK, GRAPPLE, ELBOW.
Look at Toney vs Couture. loll
JaymezF 1 year ago
@JaymezF James Toney is olddddd anddd overweight xD
lordmordor 1 year ago
@JaymezF yeah but if you train a pro boxer to kick, grapple and elbow, ufc fighter is shit compared to him
mikeldelapuente 11 months ago
@MKvsdctester2 amen!
LVSWTZ 10 months ago
@MKvsdctester2 I know right? How dare these people compare a sport with a sports organization...
Kole777 9 months ago
@Kole777
Hey guess what, the only place to box is at golds gym, because that's the name I see the most so it must be true!...
Breakneckhydra1 7 months ago
@MKvsdctester2 UFC? do you mean mix martial arts lol
lilsm555 8 months ago
tyson is stopped for the first time
cypresspuz 1 year ago
@gtf2hot
I think you mean 'pawn'.
A 'pond' is a small body if water
TweaksterXXX 1 year ago
@MrMaxoveride So if someone in the MMA came to boxing and tried to fight someone they would die too. You can't say that. Plus if James Toney worked on take down defense for 20 plus years he would slay the fucking shit out of any UFC fighter.
Sub4PrankCalls 1 year ago
@MrMaxoveride 3:17 is not less than a minute
NewTriickz 1 year ago
no doubt toney was the shit in his prime. pwr in both hands, chin, elusive. that midlife crisis must be hell...
steelfury455 1 year ago
Couture is an excellent athlete, no question. However, if I'm in a barfight staring down 2 opponents, guess where all the grabbing, hugging, and submission moves are going to get me?
MMA is not "fighting". Ask Couture to take on two opponents at once and see how far his MMA clutch/grab/choke skills take him. On the other hand, put Toney in a bar fight against 2 opponents and my guess is he lays them both out AND sticks around for the all-you-can-eat buffet afterwards.
otrexotrex 1 year ago
@otrexotrex Ok just so you know most MMA actually all of them know stand up not just grappling I meen it is a all around type thing you have to know stand up as well as ground I bet if I get in a fight with you and take you down you will not know what to do. I meen alot are kickboxers and all other types of stand up. I meen I do MMA and I have seperate classes just for stand up. I did stand up for about 8 years before I went into the military and started ground after that.
cornbread198213 1 year ago
I knew It was all over when I saw that Tonys tits were bigger than those UFC hotties.
chronomax1 1 year ago 18
@chronomax1 LOL!!!!
dantecry12 1 year ago
UFC has long taken over boxing. And after the James Toney beat down that Randy Couture gave him, it signifies just that. I have always enjoyed boxing and the grace that it carries with it. But Toney has put a bad taste in everyone's mouth for boxing. Absolutely no respect for a legendary Holyfield. Tony's great on his feet, but looked like a fish outta water when he was on his back fighting for his life and reputation @ 118. UFC baby!!!
makethemyths86 1 year ago
RANDY IS A LEGEND!!!!!!!!!
u really expected a fat strong boxer
to take on a world class althete in the best shape of his life?
kkillbrb 1 year ago
i hope in return randy will step in a boxing ring and fight toney just like toney lets see whos a worl class athlete randy admit it himself if he is on boxing ring and try to box with james,james will knock him out in 1st round..
princekody 1 year ago
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You know why people aren't showing him respect? Its because he talked a lot of shit, he disrespected MMA. If we was a good sport about it i do not think people would talk shit but he was a little bitch. When he stepped into the octagon he found out what a REAL FIGHT is... Boxing is a sport, do not call it fighting because you all know what happens when boxers get into a real fight. They cry for dear life helpless on the ground not knowing what to do.
05khanha 1 year ago
I'm dissappointed toney didn't throw a punch at couture, but people gotta stop discrediting Toney. I don't see MMA fighters in the boxing ring, until Anderson Silva does it. Then we will see. Peace.
Kurplutzo 1 year ago
see if u put randy in a boxing match vs toney he would loose
but u put randy in the octagon vs toney and u got what happened.
kkillbrb 1 year ago
@kkillbrb It doesn't matter...Toney was talking shit for about a year prior to his UFC debut last night..saying how UFC fighters were inferior. Toney the Phony got murdered last night vs. a real fighter like Couture. Boxing can move over..UFC is the new fighting sport.
greatriots 1 year ago
@greatriots
UFC is a organization smart one, like WEC.
MMA is the sport.
bighipo 1 year ago
@kkillbrb Well, it's funny that you say that. Because Toney had all the time in the world to train for Couture, but he chose not to do so until it was too late. He thought that he could just talk shit and destroy Couture on the feet, but in the end, he got choked out like a little bitch. It's okay, boxing fans; you still have Floyd :-P
masamuneofchrome 1 year ago
@masamuneofchrome he trained for 9 to 10 months thats along time
LIGHTNINGLEVIS 1 year ago
@LIGHTNINGLEVIS for someone with Couture's abilities? That's like one minute compared to Couture's YEARS of experience. Yeah, I'll give Toney that; if he got into a street fight with some scrub, he would destroy him. But against someone with more than one weapon to use, he's done for. That was shown in the Couture fight. I'm not saying that Toney is a garbage fighter, because he is not; I'm saying that he COULD'VE trained longer if he wanted. He rather chose to disregard his WRESTLING training.
masamuneofchrome 1 year ago
@masamuneofchrome You are wrong though, Toney trained for a long period of time. Even still, 9 months is not enough to learn a sport. Furthermore, some of these elements are natural I'm sure, and it's pretty hard for Toney to imprint things into his mind when he is no longer a young buck. I give a lot of respect to Toney, not for the trash-talking, but for the fact he stepped up to the plate and tried something that he wasn't the best in. Hopefully if he decides to come back, he's better.
mousavsm 1 year ago
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Of course Toney would loose its an mma fight he fought randy who has 16 + years experience in mma. Toney trained for a couple of months.
If this would have been a boxing match Toney would make him look like a fool.
The reason why James Toney is over weight is because he has a brain injury that causes his body to not produce Testosterone. James could take injections of Testosterone but its considered as doping.
Just wonted to explain for everyone :)
RipparNAD 1 year ago
Couture finished Toney in the first round folks... Let me ask a question. Does it hurt?
togglenuts 1 year ago
@togglenuts it actually did hurt for some reason
xtcottonballx 1 year ago
@togglenuts nah, boxing>ufc any day... put a ufc fighter in the ring with boxing rules and they will lose...
boozaaa 1 year ago
@boozaaa we dont what to see who the best boxer is we want to see who the worlds best fighter are and boxer are not it
LIGHTNINGLEVIS 1 year ago
@LIGHTNINGLEVIS how can u say that did u see an mma fighter step in a boxing ring..
princekody 1 year ago
@princekody Actually yeah they have
cornbread198213 1 year ago
@boozaaa Haha... you still have Floyd. Don't worry; once he leaves boxing, though, boxing is dead. No one except the die-hard fans watches it now. It's obsolete; why would you watch a sport where you just fight with your hands, when you can watch a sport where EVERY aspect of fighting is tested? Yeah, I loved boxing as a kid; but now that era is over, and now the UFC is taking over.
masamuneofchrome 1 year ago