@CanNibble Pretty much you have to state your call number i.e eagle345 with your request to the tower, they answers your request or give you direction etc you have to repeat it back to them so they know you have it right. The number with R or L is runways btw. Hope I helped I might be a little rusty though since I decided to no longer pursue the industry.
@CanNibble Actually that's a good point - after the Tenerife crash the rules of ATC were changed so that the words "take off" can only be used in relation to a *clearance* for take off, to try & avoid any future misunderstandings like this. i.e. as a pilot when you are ready for take off you must say "ready for departure", you are not allowed to say "ready for take off". Likewise, ATC must not used the words "take off" unless they are clearing you for take off.
@CanNibble The reason you don't know what they're saying is that you don't know what they *might* say. I had the same problem when I first started pilot training, could hardly understand a word. Eventually you get to know what phrases the controller will probably say back to you, so your brain automatically fills in the gaps of the bits you didn't quite hear. It's quite easy to understand after a while.
@NVTrucker It's this attitude that has lead the industry to be the sess pool that it is. Heaven forbid a pilot wish to be compensated fairly for flying. "Just be happy you're getting paid to fly.." Give me a break..
@Tramsootru You misunderstand me. I would give anything, ANYTHING to be a pilot, much less paid for it. You'll have to excuse me if I don't feel pity for someone who gets paid to do something they love. (Something they would probably do for free) The comment wasn't meant as a slam, it was meant to make the pilot think. There are people who would love to be in his shoes.
@NVTrucker No, I understand you. You have no idea what it is like to be an airline pilot. It is a job, just like whatever it is you do to put food on your table. Those who share your "do it for free" idea have killed the industry. Airlines tell pilots "just be glad you're being paid to fly." Like we should accept that as payment rather than feed our children. There are those who THINK they would want to be in an airline pilots shoes. Those same people would take the shoes off, quickly.
Speedbird 2 is an A318. It is not a HEAVY. Which is why the controller corrected himself. As JFK controllers are used to seeing only HEAVY British Airways aircraft, the controller made a mistake on the inital clearance for takeoff, but quickly corrected himself in the same transmission.
the A318 operates New York-JFK to London CIty airport in England. (via Ireland i believe, to clear customs and for fuel, at least on the westbound leg)
@born2atc At this time it was a 757. The 757 was once a heavy at all times but now it is only distinguished as a heavy sometimes. This cases wasn't one of them.
@born2atc the a318 route TO LCY doesnt make any stops. however, TO JFK it stops in shannon to refuel because the a318 cannot take off with a full fuel load on the london city runway.
@TTDMFfreaknew It's a business class only flight that departs from London City airport, which is right slap bang in the middle of London, as opposed to Heathrow which is on the western periphery and a lot harder to get to from the middle of London. Quite a nifty idea from BA I think....
@Postie218 t/o weight over 255,000 lbs. Although some slightly lighter like the 757 are also considered "heavy" by many controllers. It means the aircraft can generate a lot of wake turbulence so they should allow more space behind it.
@born2atc i think it only stops in ireland west-bound both to refuel and clear us immigration etc to avoid the hustle and waiting in jfk (its a business class-only flight).
Spring Bird HEAVY means he is a large widebody aircraft. ComAir is a regional "baby jet" and the pilot said he is "aspiring to be a heavy" that is, flying a heavy , wide body jet! The controller said "eat more", as in eat more to be heavier (fat).
Um...no. SPEED Bird is British Airway's radio Callsign and it does not mean an aircraft is a large widebody aircraft. Its just the identifier of a flight that is flying an aircraft that falls under the heavy category, for example the Boeing 747 or the Boeing 767 or B777.
@Weltbevoelkerung basically pilot repeats transmission from tower , then tower atc said u gotta do "what i do ,read more " that's all nothink much , not even funny to be honest
5 minutes of my life wasted....
god i hate buffering
hd5770Gamer 5 days ago
I love what I do, but getting only $22,000/yr as an FO... Now I say I love my job, I hate my company...
NK635FS 2 months ago
*SNRK*
Lndmk227 2 months ago
@NVTrucker I agree with u
Dualdo69 3 months ago
Hahahahaha..... No... Just no ...atc these days
TheeMinecraftBoy 4 months ago
lol!
harmonygalpal9 5 months ago
eat more? ok
TracyAndersonFoxhunt 5 months ago
got to eat more LOL
Kpj7466 5 months ago
Lol. JFK control is always on point!
hotelgulf 8 months ago
@CanNibble Pretty much you have to state your call number i.e eagle345 with your request to the tower, they answers your request or give you direction etc you have to repeat it back to them so they know you have it right. The number with R or L is runways btw. Hope I helped I might be a little rusty though since I decided to no longer pursue the industry.
jcool411 9 months ago
that's right
efastMixer 9 months ago
@CanNibble Actually that's a good point - after the Tenerife crash the rules of ATC were changed so that the words "take off" can only be used in relation to a *clearance* for take off, to try & avoid any future misunderstandings like this. i.e. as a pilot when you are ready for take off you must say "ready for departure", you are not allowed to say "ready for take off". Likewise, ATC must not used the words "take off" unless they are clearing you for take off.
ChickenRiceMushrooms 9 months ago
@CanNibble The reason you don't know what they're saying is that you don't know what they *might* say. I had the same problem when I first started pilot training, could hardly understand a word. Eventually you get to know what phrases the controller will probably say back to you, so your brain automatically fills in the gaps of the bits you didn't quite hear. It's quite easy to understand after a while.
ChickenRiceMushrooms 9 months ago
@CanNibble thats what im wondering too!
ashley0825288 9 months ago
Freaking Awesome!
dneidorff 10 months ago
hahhahha classic!
jetpilot0889 11 months ago
"To Be heavy" I hope to be the same too one day :)
JHPStudios 11 months ago
sounds like boston john
josephiles 1 year ago
smurf jet up!!!
singapore7773 1 year ago
That is Just too F***ing funny, "Aspiring to be heavy" ...Just be happy you're getting paid to fly!
NVTrucker 1 year ago 24
@NVTrucker It's this attitude that has lead the industry to be the sess pool that it is. Heaven forbid a pilot wish to be compensated fairly for flying. "Just be happy you're getting paid to fly.." Give me a break..
Tramsootru 3 months ago
@Tramsootru You misunderstand me. I would give anything, ANYTHING to be a pilot, much less paid for it. You'll have to excuse me if I don't feel pity for someone who gets paid to do something they love. (Something they would probably do for free) The comment wasn't meant as a slam, it was meant to make the pilot think. There are people who would love to be in his shoes.
NVTrucker 3 months ago
@NVTrucker No, I understand you. You have no idea what it is like to be an airline pilot. It is a job, just like whatever it is you do to put food on your table. Those who share your "do it for free" idea have killed the industry. Airlines tell pilots "just be glad you're being paid to fly." Like we should accept that as payment rather than feed our children. There are those who THINK they would want to be in an airline pilots shoes. Those same people would take the shoes off, quickly.
Tramsootru 3 months ago
What's the BA pilot saying?
KarlLeroyMD 1 year ago
@KarlLeroyMD He's just confirming what the tower told him to do.
thatman64 1 year ago
I'm sure it's the same controller on all the JFK ground recordings.
cheesemaster1000 1 year ago
"aspiring to be heavy" lmfao
boomer757 1 year ago
Speedbird 2 is an A318. It is not a HEAVY. Which is why the controller corrected himself. As JFK controllers are used to seeing only HEAVY British Airways aircraft, the controller made a mistake on the inital clearance for takeoff, but quickly corrected himself in the same transmission.
the A318 operates New York-JFK to London CIty airport in England. (via Ireland i believe, to clear customs and for fuel, at least on the westbound leg)
born2atc 1 year ago 11
@born2atc the stops made in Shannon where you clear customs and the plane refuels
SweatyFunSeeker 1 year ago
@born2atc At this time it was a 757. The 757 was once a heavy at all times but now it is only distinguished as a heavy sometimes. This cases wasn't one of them.
JumpStartation 11 months ago 5
@born2atc the a318 route TO LCY doesnt make any stops. however, TO JFK it stops in shannon to refuel because the a318 cannot take off with a full fuel load on the london city runway.
greendaylife94 10 months ago
@born2atc A318 trans-atlantic? WHHHAAAAAAT?
TTDMFfreaknew 6 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew i was like that too
vcsgfxcbfz 6 months ago
@TTDMFfreaknew It's a business class only flight that departs from London City airport, which is right slap bang in the middle of London, as opposed to Heathrow which is on the western periphery and a lot harder to get to from the middle of London. Quite a nifty idea from BA I think....
wahaya2 3 months ago
@born2atc What makes them "heavy" ?
Postie218 6 months ago
@Postie218 mtow above a certain weight i believe. couldnt tell you what that weight is tho
ellzyss 6 months ago
@Postie218 t/o weight over 255,000 lbs. Although some slightly lighter like the 757 are also considered "heavy" by many controllers. It means the aircraft can generate a lot of wake turbulence so they should allow more space behind it.
oktal3700 6 months ago
@oktal3700 hey thanks
Postie218 6 months ago
@born2atc i think it only stops in ireland west-bound both to refuel and clear us immigration etc to avoid the hustle and waiting in jfk (its a business class-only flight).
scanmannz 3 months ago
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born2atc 1 year ago
no hevy is associated with different levels of wake turbulance the aeroplane produces.
markovicmitchell 1 year ago
eat more???? hahahhahahhaha WFT!!!
gustavo87467357 1 year ago
I wish I was heavy(er) too...I should eat more too lol
airplanecrazy1989 1 year ago
"Thats right" hahaha
LinkinPark2135 1 year ago
"Gotta do what I do eat more!" LOL
44rears 1 year ago
Spring Bird HEAVY means he is a large widebody aircraft. ComAir is a regional "baby jet" and the pilot said he is "aspiring to be a heavy" that is, flying a heavy , wide body jet! The controller said "eat more", as in eat more to be heavier (fat).
obobser 1 year ago
Um...no. SPEED Bird is British Airway's radio Callsign and it does not mean an aircraft is a large widebody aircraft. Its just the identifier of a flight that is flying an aircraft that falls under the heavy category, for example the Boeing 747 or the Boeing 767 or B777.
AAL558 1 year ago
The picture of the second plane is misleading... the second plane is also awaiting departure...
mycatspice 2 years ago
I think he said You gotta do what I do.. Eat more. lol.. cuz the BAW is obviously a heavy and bigger than the CRJ.. :P
Y0UNGM0NAY 2 years ago
Im sorry, im german and didnt understand the whole recording...
Can anybody write it here please??
Weltbevoelkerung 2 years ago
@Weltbevoelkerung basically pilot repeats transmission from tower , then tower atc said u gotta do "what i do ,read more " that's all nothink much , not even funny to be honest
mcwhizzkid123 2 years ago
ok thanks!!
Weltbevoelkerung 2 years ago
no the comair aircraft says "trying to be heavy" and the controller replies "you have to do what I do... Eat More"
Cactus732 2 years ago
Controller: "Speedbird-2-heavy 4L cleared for takeoff"
Speedbird2heavy: "cleared 4L, Speedbird 2"
Controller: "Comair 525, 4L, position and hold"
Comair525: "okaaaaaayyy..aspiring to be heavy comair 525 position and hold 4L"
Controller: "gotta do what I do..eat more."
Comair525: "that's right"
jcijr14 1 year ago 3