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  • tell me, why is that? you are one of those people who compare us to those other countrys like Arabia. but lett me tell you, the only reason we are muslim is becaus those son of a bitches attacked part of the Persian Empire 1500years ago and burned down our holy book(Zoroaster). but we do have Criminal, Rapist, Child molesting son of a bitches in Iran, thats the dictating goverment(Khamenei,ahmadinejad­,..). thats why we are fighting them and to get Islam out of IRAN

  • Ahamdinejad is a killer and he kills our people every day! I'm Iranian but i don't want Ahmadinejad to get nuclear power. Just watch this before you respond to me:

    watch?v=lJYaPgpkA80

    watch?v=px9tCJPj0wg

    watch?v=Bo3-paRB2No

    watch?v=NcvEIuLVEbI

    Ahmadinejad biggest liar The Iranian people do not like Ahmadinejad. Ahmadinejad is a killer.  Ahmadinejad biggest liar. Iranians hate the Islamic Republic.

  • @AmirArProductions your people are rats; criminals, infidels, gang rapists, child molesters, thieves, the maggots from the devils ass, sons of manjey bitches pray your mother america will save you sharmutta

  • Retarded, stupid, clinically insane little man! He is case and point abstinence... I am sure his mother is proud of this foul-mouthed monkey. As an Iranian I am ashamed of you!

  • this is hilarious haha love all of your videos!!

  • I dislike this man. His ignorance and slyness are very annoying. His hatred for Israel is disgusting. His views of the Jewish race and all religions is SO biased. He thinks that all 'infidels' (All Christians, Jews, and all other religious races, ethnicities, etc) should be executed states that HE himself should get the guillotine.

  • Fuck the Islamic Republic

    It is time to go ...

  • hahahaha funny !!!!!!

    Long live Mojahedin, death to Ahmadinejad !!!

  • kheyli khande dare!!!! hahahahha

  • جاهایی که ادای احمدی‌نژاد رو درآورده قیافش عین رحیم‌پور ازغدی شده!

  • kheili AMATORI bud

    behtare barnameye bacheha dorost konid

    hahahahahahah

  • inke mojahedin fekre eslahe iranan, jensemoomo joor karde...

    iran hamin ye ghalamo kam dashte!

  • albate bA vojode ozmA va foghAhAi mesle shoma, aslan be hich kase dige lAzem nist. aslan iran yani shoma. kasAne dige behtare beran khafe beshan ya shoma khafashon konin chon mesle shoma nistan va fekr nemikonan,. nakhastin mesle alA hazrat beheshon passport bedin beran kharej, ya mesle emAm khamenei, fatva sAder konin va ya befrestineshon farang yA zire khAk. faghat shoma.. shoma va shoma.. baghye agar ba shoma nistan, bayad bemiran ya koshte beshan ya khafe beshan.

  • Damet Gharm ,,,,be moollla, HARF nadari. "halla yesseri ye harffahiee mizzand, shooma kareet alli yeh,,, halla che ina delleshoon bekhad ya chiiii??? NAkhhhhad, lololololol hahaha Q);-\D

    *(HARFET VAGHEE AN HAM MOHKAMEH)***

    "The Days of the Moollahs are NUMBERED"

  • חחחחחחחחחחחחחחחחחחח

  • There's nothing wrong with Israel. It's the terrorists around them.

  • خیلی‌ عالی‌ بود!!!!

  • Death to the liar Death to khayayamani

  • nice video and good work

  • Good work

  • nice video

  • awesome video !!!

    all hesbolahs sold their mothers and sisters for money and iranian oil. down with the corrupt regime.

    down with the wrongest government, which lets the most stupid people rule the country, u are a shame for the existence.

    save humanity !!!

  • in yaro tahe khandas kheily bahal bod

  • Shame on all fans of terroristes like Ahmaghi Nejad & Khameneii !

    Shame on Molla, Hezbolla, Russia & Nokia !

    Freedom for Iran & Iranians from Republic Tyrannic !

  • Viva modjahedin that was very Beautiful

  • kheili ba hal! mamnun! marg bar rejime eslami! payande IRAN!

  • hahahahaaaaaa very good. akheeeyyy moorche moorche princess khanoom...... BAM

  • chetori mahmoud...khubi?? ahahahahahahaha

  • ahmadi ahamdi kose nanat ahmadi

  • Durka durka...Muhommad jihad..

  • stupid hick doesn't know what he's watching lol. get back to your sister fucking and rodeos

  • the tone of his voice; his evil laughter are all screaming that this is a wicked man. He will soon die a horrible death. I hope his family gets slaughtered too. And the priests - i can't think of something terrible enough 4 them. But the public will think of a fitting death 4 them. Long live the freedom loving iranians.

  • derkaderka, islamabad jihad douchema mannea bogioola hamle hian shesharma me donkeykong derkaderka jihad!

    hota hota memuooka bka derkaderka jihad.

    click clickey derka derka jihad!

    osama bin laden derkaderka jihad!

  • Gandu kardahe!

  • its obvious that you are bornt in out of iran and dont know any thing about iran but its language

    FardaRoshanAst if you would be you understand that you are wrong

  • i was born in iran and grow up there. i have been in 1979 revolution and seen 1980-1981 mullahs attacks to people and what iranian called "chomagh dAr" which is same as "lebAs shakhsi"

    i have been a political prisoner and seen torturers such as ahmadi nejad. i have seen peolple that were tortured by him and even later on he shoot that last bullet in their head after execution. what this regime is about is nothing but disaster for human being and should be wiped out from iran and world.

  • DAMET GARM

  • Doste irani!

    Man az aanche shoma dar Youtube dorost karda aed motaaser wa khejalat kashidam. Shoma lotfan yak bar digar dar mawrede khod wa amalkarde khod fekr koned.

  • chera tasor? in regim va arazelo obashesh kheili bisshtar bayad sareshon ovord. in taze kheili be nesbate chizi ke hastan, kamtare. be har haal, tanz dar jameye irani bish az 100 sale ke rayeje va besiar ham mardom dost darand. az bohlol, mola nasredin ta be haal. vali shoma mitonin rahe dige agar midonin dar mobareze va sarnegonie in regim, be shekle khodeton pish bebarin. madamike in baraye sarnegoni va naabodye kaamele in regim va avardane hokomate democratic va azad bashe.

  • lol kare jalebi bood.

    bazi az mardom ( 60% ) hastan az chizi khabar nadaran fekr mikonan alaki migan ina bad hastan.

    age vaght dari barashoun taozih bede, age fahmid ke hich age badaz tozih mokhalefat kard baz, ahamiyati nade va be kare khodet edame bede

  • are you fucking kidding me....read the bible?!?!?!?

    How about reading Bertrand Russell's "Why I Am Not a Christian".....

    religion in 2009...wow! Take a look at the Sky at night....take a look at the history....get a FUCKING CLUE...ALL RELIGION IS BASED ON STORIES.

    Very quaint, but SAD.

  • mockmood amadinnerjob is just a figurehead and pr person speaking for the ayatollahs, but he could easily beat bush 43 in a debate

  • You guys crack me up!

  • LMAO anjomane hemayat az moorcheha :D

  • I need to learn me some Arabic, may humor prevail!!

  • The national language of Iran is Farsi, not Arabic you imbecile.

  • exxxactly

  • soal aval, chetori amoo!!! LOL

  • Ha ha, so funny!

  • hahahaha man, I love you!

  • OMG OMG LoL....

    kheli khandedar bood

  • areh, kheli khandedar bood

  • looks like it was funny too bad no english subtitles

  • dont you speak farsi

  • no sorry i only met 1 guy in my life that could speak farsi i knew him 1 month 20 years ago lol. he moved here from there. and i met him while i was learnin chinese 5000 km from where i live. one of his friends claimed to be the pizza eating king. every pizza day i had to hear them brag about how many slices he could eat. so i got tired of it and went to town and ate a ton of pizza. lol more than double what he could eat. then i had peace and quiet next time it was pizza day. lol

  • اللهم ارض عن سيدنا عمر بن الخطاب

  • hahaha chegat bahaleh!!!!;)!

  • thank u for posting this video plz post more

  • DOWN WITH MULLAH IRAN

  • DOWN WITH MONAFEGHIN

  • this is not arabic language this is farsi

  • Oh my god, you're so ignorant. They are Iranians and the language they are speaking is Parsi.

  • Iranians are wonderful.

    Watch my video: FACES OF IRAN

    ایران ایران ایران ایران ایران

  • Because ahmed follow his religion , letter to letter , he dont kill for the fun of himself , he mostly killed homosexual , drugued people , aniti-muslims. That doesnt mean he is worst than hitler , why should he kill muslims if he is muslim .... Theres a fact that he kill them.

  • Salam dear brother, I am an Iranian and pro IRI. don't get fooled with "FardaRoshanAst" views! he is probably one of Monafegin who were anti IRI! you know, in early years of Islamic Revolution they were walking in the streets and shoot gun at every civilian who was Islamic System! Ahmadinejad didn't kill any body! he might killed some Saddam soldier during Iran-Iraq war, if any, but not any Iranian even criminals!!!

  • what is happening in iran by fundamentalist regime or by taliban is not about islam or muslim as what isreal government is doing to other countries is not about jews or their religion. it is about power and money. you, me and us should not play their move in their favorite game. we should respect and love each other and fight against all fundametalists.

  • Ok wait wait wait , so you call ahmed as hitler ? why , Israel warred , egypt , leban , iraq , syria and now they want to war iran ? Israel is more like hitler empire , Stupid , stupid really stupid people , judaisme is supposed to be a religion of peace but most of the jews like to kill muslims , it proove that judaisme isnt a true religion but the real religion passes to the politic.

  • you don't know what you are talking about. this regime is the worst dictatorship in iran history. they have killed over 120,000 iranian (mostly muslim) and are as old as dainasour. they are very fundameltalist. Butcheting their own people and exporting terroism is their way of staying in power. ahmadi nejad was called man of 1000 bullet by his own college in political prisons for shooting last bullet in people head. before supporting one, know them first.

  • hahahahahah oh gottttt.....hahahaha kheliii khandidam hahahaaah eiiivallll

  • obama is a failure. he will ruin this country with open borders, elimination of the military, discussions with terrorist leaders, blind environmentalism, withdrawing support from israel and iraq, flip-flopping on positions, making reparations payments, censoring opposition, stifling industry, destroying the middle class, socializing healthcare, crushing small business, being in the pocket of large ethanol, packing government bureaucracy with liberal stooges and sending american wealth to africa.

  • im ashamed that at ur age, ur still ignorant and thinking like a trailer park trash, what makes u think he will do all that . "elimination of the military". right there i could tell u r uneducated. what is congress there for. what r check and balances there for. if he approves all this, congress still has the last word. wow.... u r very shallow. and i tought u would be intelligent enough since u know how 2 use a computer but im appaled. im vey shocked ignorant folks like u still exist.

  • why don't we keep doin what we r doing cause it what got us to this point and nothing has changed. so u still want to go down a path that hasnot worked and hope it's still working or change path when8 years hasn't worked out

  • Olmert is not qualified to shine Ahmadinijad's shoes. God preserve Iran. Zionist israel must fall. Where was Olmert on the morning of 911? Why were there no jews in WTC on 911? Why did Zim flee two weeks before? Why are Chertoff and Mukasey israelis in control of americian judiciary? To protect israel from investigation and indictment. QED

  • to protest the isreal and US, you defent a butcher like ahmadi nejad? it is like supporting hitler for standing to UK at that time! don't you want to bother and think logically?

  • what would be more hilarious is that you put some subtitles on this !!! i don t understand a word !! but still it looks funny !!

  • lol so funny.....

  • ahmadi is an idiot

  • actually he is not.check out more about person before calling him|her an idiot

  • ROFL this is hilarious!

    all the islamist and supporters of mullahs need to STFU

  • khodavakile az khande rode borg shodam vaghan tanze siyasi jalebi bood yani mahyate rejim to in tanze siyasi mishe did

  • DO a search on you tube under (2008 persian parade in NEW YORK) and find out how true iranians feel about the current iranian regime. NEW YORK police estimates show 35000 iranians present on march 30, 2008 in NEW YORK to show how people of IRAN are different than the current regime they all held the IRANIAN LION AND SUN FLAG. THE LION AND SUN FLAG IS THE SYMBOL OF OUR HERITAGE AND HISTORY. it is the symbol of saying NO to the Mullahs in power. ANYONE IN IRAN HOLDS THIS FLAG WILL BE EXCUTED.

  • nice

  • lol

  • WTF is this?

  • I really like this video after watching to it for many times. God bless you Iran.

  • Awesome

  • OMG

  • where can i find information about india money? and the salman rushdie affair hasn't ended the relations you think, if there ever were any.

  • check your sources inside iran, islamic schools, specially the one in GHOM, where they manufacture mullahs and their fundamentalism.

  • sounds very interesting, what motive do the brits have for financing the education of islamic movements that are fundamental in interpretation?

    at present i do not have the possibility to check sources inside in Ghom or any place in Iran, are there any places on the internet that mention 'India Money'?

  • no. this is something that the students and mullahs know about. i had a relative in there. he told me this. if you wait, all the truth will come out after new revolution in iran. just follow up or read the very close relation between mullahs in iran and UK government.

  • Traitor khomeini and his gang, this ahmadinezhad and other islamic criminal traitors were planted by British intelligence in 1979 to deflect the democratic revolution of Iranian people. So these traitors are talking out of their filthy asses when they claim to be "anti imperialist"

    مرگ بر اسلام

    سرنگون باد شاهنشاه خامنه ای و رژیم اسلام

  • so the salman rushdie affair is basic propaganda so it seems london and teheran are not connected? is salman rushdie aware of this?

    the satirical cartoons that led to the destruction of the dannish ambessy in teheran was iniated by the english goverment? i try to keep an open mind and this defenitely is a new theory, do you have proof to back it up?

  • "bendingneto",

    a) i dont know what the heck the point is you are trying to make, if any. b) Khomeini was paid by british, and this is an old fact and not a "new theory". For proof, go and ask your traitor mullah paymasters in Tehran! and while at it, ask them to translate the following from farsi into your native arabic: Kiram be dahane to va har chi jasoose bad bakhte arab va arab doost!

  • my native arabic?

    translate this at the dutch ambessy in teheran:

    De lucht is blauw, als het niet bewolkt is en de nacht reeds niet gekomen is.

    perhaps they were supported by the british secret service but the salman rushdie affair indicates the ties are broken, i am wrong?

  • i don't know why you guys need to use such language to make your points. you and iraniazad17. but check this out. there is a pocket money is paying to mullahs in islamic schools in iran named " India Money" what is this and where it comes from. do your search. maybe you get iraniazad17 point.

  • such language? this comment is also directed to me?

  • no, iranazad17.

  • ahah gheli ghande dar bood :P

  • hahahaha he looks really like him... good work

  • senin gibi bir yöneticim olsa amerikaya kredi açarım valla

  • " Jenabe aghaye ahmadi nejad man 2 ta soal nashtam oonam ine ke Chetori Mahmood ? "

    HAHAHAHAHAH

  • yep. MKO is your enemy and won't stop till save the world iranian from you, mullahs regime and other fundamentalists.

  • khaili bahaleeeeeeeeeeeee

  • nampak cam edit je

  • apemende aku tak paham

  • QudsForce--I see you've been doing your homework. Keep up the good work my friend!

  • The following are some of the innovations that Paul introduced into "his" religion of Christianity:

    -Son of Man or Son of God?

    Simply put, the Doctrine of Divinity states that Jesus is the son of God--the Word of God made flesh.

    Even though Jesus himself, as mentioned earlier, never claimed to be divine, Paul gave him this attribute for one reason: to gain converts among the Gentiles.

  • Wtf r u tryin' to prove?

  • Don't ask me what I'm trying to prove when you've just arrived on the scene. There has been an ongoing discussion on religion on this page and others. I have suggested that we relocate our discussion elsewhere and limit the discussion here to "Ahmadinejad" and world politics. Either you may comment on the topic at hand, or simply leave if you don't like it.

  • quds force is a terrorist group.. butchers of innocent people in iran, iraq, lebonan, palestine, egypt, argentina, etc. you get what you deserve very soon by iranian hand people. worse than savakis of the shah

  • And every1 should know that the MEK/MKO is the real terrorist grp. They have carried out attacks on their own people in Iran and on Americans in the region. Of course they found safe haven in Iraq under Saddam and received funding from the US while they shared intelligence together.

  • The teachings of Paul, the true founder of Christianity, cannot be found anywhere in the teachings of Jesus or in those of the prophets before him. Not only that, but Paul had little contact with the true disciples of Jesus who also might have set him straight; they were not in agreement with Paul's innovative teachings, and let him know this as much as possible.

  • He made up his mind that it would be best to simply dismiss them off and target the Gentiles (non-Jews) instead. Paul was wildly successful in his subsequent missionary efforts, what with the accommodations he ended up making for the Gentiles. Although the religion of Christianity takes its name from Jesus Christ, Paul of Tarsus must be considered as its true founder, as he is the one who conceived all of its doctrines, and set up its churches throughout the world of his time.

  • Reza are you a Christian Iranian?

    I think the Shah should come back and kick the Ayatollahs out...

    All the prophets of the Bible were Jews...Mary = Jew...Jesus = Jew...David = Jew...

  • Do you know the Shah is dead? He has a son but I highly doubt the Shahzadeh (Shah's son) can do anything on his own, at least w/o the direct support of the US vis a vis the CIA. If you recall, the former Shah was reinstalled by the CIA after Mosaddeq was elected by the people. Not too many want another Shah, and in fact, they prefer the current regime over any monarch.

  • The Islamic Revolution was brought about by the people themselves w/o the support of any gov. Of course, the leadership was highly competent.

  • This is when Saul changed his name to Paul and went off into the deserts of Arabia in order to think about just how he was going to go about carrying out what he believed to be a command from Jesus to go out and preach.

    Exactly WHAT to do was quite a dilemma for him, however; since the Jews had rejected Jesus and his message, Paul didn't think he stood much of chance of getting through to them, either.

  • Various theories have been advanced as to just what happened to Saul that day--such as sunstroke, a hallucination, and even an epileptic seizure--but nothing is for certain except that whatever did happen changed a zealous persecutor into an ardent preacher.

  • His performance in this capacity was so good that he was made chief agent for this purpose in Jerusalem, and he was given the necessary documents to extend the purge into neighboring cities. Approx. 5 yrs after Jesus' ascension into heaven, this 25 yr old old zealot was on his way to Damascus to pick up a group of Nazarenes to return to Jerusalem when he had a vision in which he claimed Jesus appeared, asking why Saul was persecuting him.

  • The execution of Stephen was observed by Saul (Paul). Not much later than Jesus himself, Saul had become part of the Jewish sect of the Pharisees; these "legal eagles" had become fanatic in their pursuit of the Nazarenes; following the execution of Stephen, Paul himself began to take a very active role in this endeavor.

  • One of these Nazarenes, a man named Stephen, finally pushed things too far by letting loose with an inflammatory speech when hauled up in front of the Jewish judges known as the Sanhedrin. Howling with fury at his "Blasphemous" words, the judges jumped up and dragged Stephen out of the city, where he was stoned to death. This story can be found in Acts chapter 7 in the Bible.

  • The followers of Jesus, who called themselves "Nazarenes", continued to incite controversy wherever they went after Jesus had left the earth; they did this by continuing to echo his words of doom ahead for the Jews if they did not get their act together very soon.

  • yess they r

  • QudsForce - God Bless You. I don't claim to know everything, but I do know Jesus is among us as we talk. If you and I can say, Ok we don't everything, but can allow each other to live and grow in faith, well... how great is that. You helped me, and I hope I helped you. But in the end I call you friend.

  • Martin--God Bless You. Despite our disagreement on certain issues, there is no doubt that we have come closer together as believers in One God. God Willing, I will soon comment on the Doctrine of the Trinity, or the "Triology" as you put it. I know there is much controversy surrounding this topic. My mother's side of the family are Christian (Irish) and thid issue is always the target of discussion.

  • You see, this is where the lines of the Trilogy is obscure: God, Son, Holy Ghost. Jesus is Godlike, but not God entirely. Jesus is manlike but not entirely. Even though Jesus is referred to as Son of God, He is also referred to as "Son of Man" Jesus himself cannot reveal what Heaven looks like to the Apostles. Only Jesus is perfect, but he has the freewill and body of man. Jesus in every otherway is like man to be the sacrafice.

  • In short, there are many areas where Jesus is known and referenced to as God. Do a google on "Is Jesus God in flesh". Also, do a google on Jewish Influence on the Qur'an. Mohammad (PBUH) received oral learning from Jews that were ousted from power, not Christians, around the 6th century.

  • In the end, however, Paul's brand of Christianity won out because, through his charismatic personality, not to mention the fact that he and his companions out-matched the true disciples of Jesus in important manners such as social rank, wealth and education, he gained such a large following among the Gentiles. Judeo-Christianity, that of the disciples of Jesus, didn't stand a chance.

  • QudsForce - perfect simply put is without sin. Only God and Jesus where without sin. There is a story of Job who was protected, like Noah but they too where with sin. There is so much you are telling me which is contrary to what is taught in the Bible, like Saul/Paul and his appeal to Jews. He too is a Jew by the way. And he always went to the Jews first, and then the gentiles.

  • Not only that, but Paul had little contact with the true disciples of Jesus who also might have set him straight; they were not in agreement with Paul's innovative teachings, and let him know this as much as possible.

  • Jesus as perfect without sin is agreed upon. God's perfection, however, extended well beyond that of Jesus in that God granted Jesus the power of abstaining from sin. God is always without sin as God is Eternal. Jesus was only without sin b/c it was God's Will.

  • Ok - well, that's where we can disagree. I understand that we all have free will. God cannot force man to love or obey Him. This love reasaonably would also extend to Jesus, unless Jesus was God. If Jesus did not have this freewill then what point would the temptation on Guesemini be? Also, what would that say about Jesus's love and commitment to man kind, if He had no free will?

  • Paul was wildly successful in his subsequent missionary efforts, what with the accommodations he ended up making for the Gentiles. Although the religion of Christianity takes its name from Jesus Christ, Paul of Tarsus must be considered as its true founder, as he is the one who conceived all of its doctrines, and set up its churches throughout the world of his time.

  • Paul Maier, in his book "First Christians", tells us that thirteen years elapsed between the time Paul "received his calling" and the time that he began preaching. During that thirteen years, Paul's creative mind put in a lot of overtime; when he finally returned to Damascus, he came back armed with the knowledge that the Gentiles would demand a tangible god within their new religion, and he was prepared to give this to them.

  • Paul knew that people with such deep-reaching pagan beliefs were not going to accept the idea that grace and salvation could come from a person who was only considered to be a most upright and righteous human being. If Paul wanted quick results in his ministry, he knew that he would have to "modulate" things a bit, taking into account the culture of the Gentiles.

  • The Romans and the Greeks, who made up the Gentile population of Paul's world, were pagans who worshipped a plethora of gods and goddesses. Temples and statues of their deities abounded in the land, and Roman law had it that all people, with the exception of the Jews, must pay homage to the gods.

  • QudsFoce - this is good. If God is perfect, and so is Jesus, then isn't Jesus God? Can man ever be perfect? I think even the Qur'an says man in the Garden of Eden was cast out because or our sin. Even Moses and Abraham, aknowledged Prophets in th Qur'an were with sin. They were simply men, not God incarnate. David too was with sin.

  • Simply b/c a prophet is w/o sin doesn't imply he is God. When I say that Jesus is perfect, I mean he is perfect in all aspects of being a prophet appointed by God. God may have acted through Jesus for he was a sign of God on earth and an agent of God's Divine Will. This, however, doesn't make Jesus God.

  • Jesus and Paul were famous Jewish people...

  • Yes they were. Of course Jesus was sent to fulfill the law of the Jews, i.e. correct the Rabbis. Saul followed the Jewish ways until he innovated new ideas and steered away from the Jewish teachings. This is when he became Paul (of Tarsus).

  • Jesus was a rabbi...nonetheless...Paul never called himself a Christian...he was a Jew...

    All the Disciples were Jews...qudsforce...are you Christian?

  • Are Iranians Caucasian?

  • Well, technically speaking, Judaism is a race. Therefore, Jesus and Saul were Jews in that sense of the term. Of course, Jesus was more than a Jew as he came to fulfill the law. Saul/Paul, while maintaining his Jewish heritage, came up with what is now known as the basic Pauline Christian Doctrines.

  • After converting, Paul went off into the deserts in order to think about just how he was going to go about carrying out what he believed to be a command from Jesus to go out and preach. Exactly WHAT to do was quite a dilemma for him, however; since the Jews had rejected Jesus and his message, Paul didn't think he stood much of chance of getting through to them, either. He made up his mind that it would be best to simply dismiss them off and target the Gentiles (non-Jews) instead.

  • For Bible verses that show Jesus is God do google search on "Jesus as God verses" or CARM dot org.

  • And by the way, there is a little thing called the Trilogy (Father, Son and Holy Ghost) It is difficult at times to tell where they converge or diverge. Catholics, Lutherans and other Protestants have difficulty here. But we all accept that Jesus is perfect.

  • In Islam, it's also accepted that Jesus is perfect and without sin. Of course, this doesn't necessarily make him God. God is all-powerful and has the ability to protect one from sin if He wishes. The argument of Islam is that the true teachings of Jesus have been abrogated over time, most notably by Saul/Paul of Tarsus who was the key innovator of the original teachings of Jesus.

  • This is mighty fine... I understand that it is very difficult to beleive the Jesus is God in human form. Sual had the same problem before he converted to Paul. But tell me this, if Jesus is merely a man, where is His sin? Only Jesus is Perfect and was given to us in Human form, and you cannot use the Qur'an to prove it because the Qur'an refers to books we do not accept.

  • The words "heard in that he feared" (Hebrews 5:7) mean that God granted him what he requested. So the above verse shows when Jesus asked of God to "let this cup pass from" (Matthew 26:39) him, God responded to his prayer and saved him from death or crucifixion.

  • After Jesus made the prayer (Matt. 26:39) he was answered by God according to Heb. 5:7: "Who in the days of his flesh, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears unto him that was able to save him from death, and was heard in that he feared." These words clearly show when Jesus was praying strongly to God, God granted him his request.

  • He is also spoken of as "The Word of God", as "The Spirit of God", as a "Sign of God", and numerous other honorable epithets spread over fifteen different chapters. The Holy Qur'an honors this messenger of God, and the Muslims have not fallen short over the past fourteen hundred years in doing the same. There is not a single disparaging remark in the entire Qur'an to which even the most jaundiced among the Christians can take exception.

  • Though Jesus is mentioned by name in about 25 places in the Qur'an, he is also addressed with respect as: Ibn Maryam ("The son of Mary") and as the Maseeh (in Heb./Arab., the Messiah), translated as "Christ". He is also known as Abdullah ("The servant of God"), and as Rasulullah (the messenger of God).

  • QudsForce -- As Christians, it is our duty to be vigilant in growing with Christ; that is why we must study the entire Bible and find Truth. Taken into context Jesus did voluntarily die on the Cross, yet what is written in Mat, as you pointed out, sounds like He didn't want to. This to me is poetically written telling us how hard the task was, for Jesus to die for all mans sins.

  • Martin -- I respect your stance as a believer and I will reiterate my respect for you in maintaining a mature discussion w/o losing your cool as some people on here.

  • quds: martin explained it well on why Jesus asked God to let this cup pass him, and your response was flattery but you never addressed his answer, or rebutted it why?

  • There is no doubt that Jesus knew of what was to befall him. There is also no doubt that he had no fear and that he would be ready to die for his cause. Yet, to attempt to look for what is believed to be "Truth" in the Bible is an attempt to attribute truth to the account of the life of Jesus and his alleged crucifixion, which is according to someone else.

  • i will not waist my time looking for these scripture's cause i know you will find a excuse to not believe, but Jesus was the son of God, and did die for our sins, mine and yours. and there are many Scriptures that claim this fact, before and after his birth prophecies foretold of the coming of the messiah. i will p[ray for you that the truth of Jesus be revealed to you, and that truth shall set you free.

  • the fight is not over religions or the one that believe in god or not believe. the real fight is between the one that want us to become their slaves. please get united with any believes you are. we are all sisters and brothers, no matter what color, religion, race, nationality.

  • Who said anything about a fight over religions? This is your assumption FardaRoshanAst. We are demonstrating our unity and solidarity through peaceful discussion if that counts in your book. Also, please clarify who wants us to be slaves. If I recall, the deposed Shah was a slave and at the same time an agent of enslavement. Now, those who are calling the shots in the world are acting as slavemasters, supporting such groups as your very own MKO against their fellow Iranians.

  • It is very clear from Matthew 26:39 that Jesus had no intention of dying. In this verse it is shown that Jesus was praying strongly (Matthew mentions Jesus repeating this prayer three times) to have this death removed from him. Had Jesus Christ been sent to be crucified, he would not have hesitated to be killed at all.

  • I've noticed Muslims take the words written literally when sometimes words are meant metaphorically, Jesus new he was supposed to die. that did not change thew fact that it scared him, it's because he new how he would die that he was full of sorrow and fear. but never the less he new his destiny.

  • Well, you've noticed wrong. There is also metaphorical speech in the Qur'an. Jesus did know his fate and no, it didn't scare him. The point here, however, is that he had no intention of dying. You say he died for our sins. If so, what is the role of sin in this lifetime, and our purpose and how it's related to the day of judgement?

  • Quds : first how can you say for certain what Jesus was thinking?.... sins role in our life is to make us strong and bring us closer to God,the wages of sin are death the bible says this is life, and this is death, choose! how else would we know right from wrong if we had no trials? on judgment day those who were faithful to the word and did not give in to a life of sin and evil deeds. will reap the reward of knowing the creator.