Briggs and Stratton starting problem

[TomDutton65]

if it has ultra high compresion it cant have a cracked ring if it did it wouldent have any compresion

[Provic90594]

Oh look at him finger the engine..

[bassboy923]

you'd might better put a damn glowplug in that bee-otch and convert er to a diesel... lol

[TheFred1952]

looks like you have fule coming out of your exahaust

[NinjaNeglector]

valves need adjusted and the engine is hydrolocked! listen to johndeer and watch donyboy73 video 0n how to adjust the valves and your dr will run like new again that is unless ya screw it up b4 ya watch the vid lol

[sjohnson47]

OK, B&S when they started making OHV engines made a bunch of crap with flawed Compression Systems. Our government no longer having any backbone of course will not force a recall. My advice, scrap the engine and buy any other brand. They no longer produce the product that they used to.

[mkd3b]

F ing Idiot

[johndeere445]

its your valves. watch donyboy73's video on it with a briggs that wont even turn over. its helpfu;.

[Sculley61]

I've had a similar problem! Remove the sparkplug! The problem is the cylinder is FULL OF GAS, the float is stuck filling the cylinder(thats why it has REAL HIGH COMPRESSION) your trying to compress gas ,not air&gas mix.See if gas doesn't come out the muffler or at least smell like gas! Your carb needs to atleast be cleaned, if not rebiult.

[edsonpenner]

Esse cara nao entende nada de motores... que tal olhar a vela??? qua tal nao apertar o afogador tantas vezes??? are you crazzy?

[jeepers2655]

gotta use a battery box or a battery WITH a battery charger!

[21karissa]

try reseting the valves. Most ohv briggs engines need there valves reset and that should take care of the compression problom. I had to do the same thing on mine

[frevirg]

mabey a sticky valve???

and stop pumping so much fuel that can dick it lol

[theskullman69]

buy a new motor ! getcha a rider ! thats how americans roll !

[mrfirewolf]

#1 adjust the valves and look for any damage on the rocker arm... #2 lay off the fucking primer bulb!!!!!!! no wonder it has high compression... your pumping fuel into the damn intake.. fills the cylender!

[mrstuart143]

you should see the compression on my villiers generator its impossible to pull over.

[hpsuckz323]

maybe the rocker arms need tightning

[mountain177]

Adjust your rocker arms the linkage is to tight

[mhamby2009]

Hydro lock!!!

[TheDavidpayne]

you have the engine tillted down which make oil rush past the piston head and locked in the clynder "locking " the engine up ! and is why you get "ulltra hight compression"

[rob3938]

Wow. that sound is

not good.

[jeb8n]

The problem is how Your storing it . The engine is not level the oil is seeping past the

piston and hidrolocking it.  Take the sparkplug out - crank it over 10sec clean plug,

reinstall. hope that helps.

[meanring69]

You probably need to set your valves Watch other videos on you tube????

[pcblah]

help me! i hav a briggs 3.5 hp made in 2006 model:091202 and it was working yesterday and we moved it in a car did the car shake it too much? and also we got it started today but when we tryed to start it later it was impossible D:

[628godfather]

3 pushes of that primer bulb is plea

nty ,your pumping it way to mutch and fluid locking it take plug out and crank it over to clean cylinder out,also u should have a battery hooked to that

[brettspointofview]

Use your drill start if you can

[zackthegoth]

@homebrew77 uhh yeah I feel good about picking on someone else............except I never picked on this guy yet. hehehehehe

[homebrew77]

... To a pm on my phone. Carb on tank 5.5 with a primer or auto choke thing? Most likely the issue is the choke if it is one of those... If not then dirt. Not difficult to work on.

[homebrew77]

Hey. Not sure how to reply

[231MasseyFerguson]

Daniel, I sent you a Private Message...

[marbeer17]

Is that the way you fix those engines? It has to be just 3 pulls man to make it work , if after that it does not work , is because some else is wrong. It is something is stoping the piston, flywheel or even something stuck on the blades. What that kind of testing you are make the problem worse or more expensive.

[colbycous01]

2 :48 mins in,,,,, broke rings

[colbycous01]

@colbycous01 damn! guess not

[bloodystuff13]

damm didnt prim it enoff?

[greatwhitenorth112]

more OIL!!!!!

[homebrew77]

those of you picking on this guy give your heads a shake. He's admitting to having issue with figuring this out ...he's not saying he's an expert.

Do you really feel good about making fun of someone who came to you asking for help ? Ya learn things form asking questions and tinkering. Now that he's learned how to feel good by picking on others...lets move on shall we.

If you bother to read what I wrote you will see I did not claim to be a god... but I know my shit and I'm willing to help.

[231MasseyFerguson]

@homebrew77 I sent you a Private Message...

[homebrew77]

overhead valves or not, they all have adjustment and could have loosened off... this would stop the compression release from working properly and make it have more compression on start up. PS. it's probably not the valves. I'm basing this on your statement that it gets easy to pull at times and then hard again. Valves would be consistent.

[homebrew77]

... a faulty compression release or a semi seized engine from running low on oil or with filthy oil.

Either way, at this point ( if you've done what I previously said ) you'll need to remove the sump and have a look inside. It's pretty easy and I can walk you threw it IF you need help.

Like I said tho... it's likely something small that's been overlooked. The devil is in the details ... I think that's what they say. These are a simple engine. you'll get it.

[homebrew77]

while the engine is level or tipped back slightly use a flammable carb/brake aerosol cleaner to prime it. about a one second spray in the intake. ( or quick start if you have some )

I use these all the time for testing. IF it starts, leave it warm up ,shut it off and leave it with the engine level or slightly tipped back. Let it cool for an hour or so. Come back and with the front still up attempt priming as usual, 4-5x and PULL start it. If it still turns hard Then it's narrowed down ...

[homebrew77]

If you determine that it is neither of those things it is pretty easy to remove the starter housing and inspect the flywheel area to insure there isn't anything causing resistance such as a loose coil ( or a faulty engine brake IF it has one)

If there's nothing in there it could oil getting past the rings because of the way it's sitting (perhaps this should be step 1 ) Verify the engine oil is level by setting the front up so that the engine is perfectly level.

[homebrew77]

remove the plug and use the pull start to turn it over slowly. If It turns easy then you know it's something compression related, If it's still has resistance check the P.T.O (drive system) for drag. remove covers and the belt if necessary.

the starter could also be the issue. it is common for the starter (electric) to stick engaged making it really hard to turn over.check that or remove it...it's easy and you shouldn't have to use it anyway... it's just silly. PLUS ...don't use a charger.

[homebrew77]

This may take several comments to say.

Are you still having issues with this ? If so you need to remember the same things as every time you are trying to diagnose a problem. Start SIMPLE and eliminate small things... do NOT make assumptions.

It's probably something simple and not a bent crank, flywheel key, rings or anything else like that... Those are silly assumptions when derived from watching a video.

You are assuming that it's compression, and tho it may well be, don't start there.

[mkecran]

it sounds like it's cranking way too slow

[lorddareal]

what a character, lol hahahah!!!

[zasti78]

You need a horse or a goat not an engine! First you need to know how it's working.

[pnbliveca]

where is this fix it shop i have a mower that dont work  hahahhahaha just so i know where not to take it

[timex1966]

the valves are out of adjustment ..yanking on the cord is not helping any ..running the starter your going to burn it out. on overhead valves they will get out of adjustment and cuase compression problems.

[92sonoma]

its an overhead valve engine, the valves have loosened up

[ipunnamja]

man could be the starter or the coil rubbing on the flywheel...this clearly has nothing to do with compression. fucking idiot...

[Tunerboii2045]

see it pissing out raw fuel that means its flooded stop pressing the primer!

[Tunerboii2045]

see the cord pull it and then it might start

[niper99]

idiot



[ddbikerkid1]

your alternator is rubbing on you fly wheel and if you really want to ruin your engine you could prime it then star it with electric start and pull at the same time. but i wouldnt do that. so you could take off your alternator if you dont want to use the battery or you could loosen the screws on it and move it back and place a playing card between it and the flywheel and tighten it up then and it should work

[ramcharon]

stupid you are burning out the starter with that battery charger check the coil on the fly wheel if its touching you'r playing with the primer like you are fingering a pussy

[murdaughbrandon]

take off engine



[24karot1396]

try killing urself

[holmes730]

hey man did you prime it?

[jck8564]

the starter sounds like it broke

[lalasvets]

hahahahahahahahahahaha der machine kaputt mdr

[grabba73]

what the heck is that weird looking thing?? and it's in drive and it shouldnt be when your trying to start it. take the cover off, then check the shaft by turning by hand ......

[sammusjustinbailey]

Check the flywheel key. Very cheap repair and very common problem. Will cause the engine to have incorrect timing and very hard to pull or start.

[bloodreighn]

that starter is starting to sound VERY tires too, its definatly as you said the magneto runnign against the flywheel

[stydel311]

if u took the spark plug out would it turn over the rights way?

[mrnakers2]

did you prime it?

[3342228000]

@mrnakers2 YOU FAIL !!!

[3342228000]

YOU FAIL !!!

[thumasta666]

you are priming that thing way too much, its like 100x harder to start a motor if your priming it while your trying to start it. also whenever i do a tuneup for a customer, i take off the magneto coil and clean up any rust thats on it with a wire brush, clean the flywheel up with some sand paper, and re-gap the coil at .010". so that would have eliminated the rubbing problem.

[ringbolt9]

that sux man. hope you got the prob solved now

[nomad4008]

hahahah you my good ser are a jack ass

[seapeddler]

Something may be bent, such as a valve.

Too tight of a valve lash may do this?

Well, if the engine is ok, and you are just staging the problem, that is one way to get many views.

On YouTube something that goes wrong or catastrophically wrong is popular.

It is human nature.

[851995STARGATE]

dude dont use the pull start and electric start at the same time by doing wut u did ur making it worse

[matu4455]

@851995STARGATE how exactly?, he actually made it better, if he didnt pull at the same time the starter engine coils might burn.

[mowersman]

I'm betting oil is getting into the cylinder, increasing the compression

[Peacemaker2027]

There are lots of things that you could be doing wrong...

1. Check the clutch, is it engaged?

2. Did you prime it to much/to little?

3. Is there gas in the tank?

4. Where is the choke throttled?

5. Check your oil/gas mixture or oil tank?

6. Is the crank shaft bent?

7. How long does it sit out, start it up often?

[MrTaggz]

Have you checked the valve clearance ?

Im guessing around .005 for both EX and IN ..Wind the motor up to TDC and then go past about 1/4 inch and check the valve clearnace.. Fingers crossed nothing else is wrong :)

[rktman1965]

@MrTaggz nope its .004

[MrTaggz]

@rktman1965 Not bad for a guess huh ? Well did you get it going yet ?

[snipermiller17]

take out the spark plug spin it over some then put spark plug back in.....but u should seriously replace the rings

[hondaman319]

wtf are you doing you dont prim it 50times you will flude it and you need to use two hands when you pull it your a dumb ass

[frosty9595]

Its a bad case of a dumbass user. Im sorry Mr. Briggs.

[C0LL1N]

looks like something is rubbing on the flywheel

[FanFan61618]

it wont start

[manout234]

are you to much of a panzy to pull start?

[supermartful]

it sounds like one of the bushes on the starter is weak its a hard jod to do i hade to do one on my lawnmower briggs and stratton tell me how it goes

[Andalite789]

you know if it aint a crank isue as far as super high compress gos its either a binding or malfunctioning compress realease on the cam

[shinyfuzzy]

pussy

[dw807]

Look at the angle the engine sits at. All the oil leaks into the cylinder when it sits for any time at all. Wet plug keeps it from firing.

[mik32526]

OH one more my Girlfreind said try pushing the primer a couplle more times maybe then it will crank HAHA good Luck lol

[mik32526]

WHOS A DOUCHE BAG you are take it to a pro you obviously have no clue what you are doing

DUHHHH and the wires smoke because to many amps obviously the stater isnt made to handle that many thats why the wires are so small and dang did you push the primer ball enough DANG

[mikemike390]

hes got a point

[haggard159]

Having this guy wearing a Summit hat is an embarrasment to real gear heads

[moptrucks]

You have shit for brains

[benhanson3]

i agree 100%

[foxdmulder]

it doesnt have cracked piston rings, 2 possibilities.

1. crankshaft is bent...if hes stripped that engine chances are he's fucked it up. shaft sounds to be bent, cause after half pull you can here excess rubbing alum. flywheel against magneto.

2. he's primed it so much that theres enough petrol in that cylinder to create a 3 megaton explosion.

take off the ohv cover and see what the valve springs are doing.

Quit the shite with your electric starters, Hand starting tells you a lot more.

[mercnut1]

sounds like you may need to go to a mechanics school stop blaming the equipment

[TandJEnterprices]

play in the rod could have cased it to seize to the crank, happend to my dirt bike

[Corey497]

GOT PRIME??? holyshit

[jjproctor]

prim for a good time

[midnightrider326]

giv the primer a rest sheesh... u probably flooded it!

P.S. cool cold start vids :)

[sharonshelp]

yeh and why is this on you tube?

[Penguinboy1995]

maybe u should learn a thing or 2 about engines then try to fix it.... what ya think.... oh and thanks for the advice "dont buy a DR" even know its the moter DR seems to suck

[revitup1965]

Sheared woodruff key (flywheel key).

[SpaceACE210]

thats what i was thinking

[Golfferdie]

You call that working? Get to tearing into it and lose the phone.

[sexyspacemonkey]

mm ild say a bent crank shaft or bearing shot.

[jstine1234]

I'd say an ultra stuck valve

[diymania]

Did you ever get the problem with this piece of shit engine sorted ?

[tmoore92c]

git a new cam

[techhelper1]

check the date of the video being posted, engage your brain before you speak

[1972FordF150]

more like the coil is rubbing up agenst the flywheel DUMBASSES!!

[crazyschultz89]

Ahhhh i think u might have flooded it as much as u primed it or there could be an intake valve stuck orrrrr, you could have a problem with the head gasket. What kind of machine is that anyway

[crazyschultz89]

Ahhhh i think u might have flooded it as much as u primed it or there could be an intake valve stuck orrrrr, you could have a problem with the head gasket.

[lyerlyman]

Man, you fingered the crap out of this thing and still did not get it running. I would not have ever posted a video that resulted in a failure. It make YOU look bad.

[the5445]

the older engines where nice, they had the old goveners that you could litteraly take off in 3 minutes.

[jvanderman]

hmm if its got alot of compression i think your intake valve is stuck

[backwoodsctryboy]

valve issues. carb issues. poss engine hydro locked with fuel.

[TheBuIIshitable]

Bent valves for sure

[bugsier5]

use the valve lifter egg head!

[MrShawn305]

quit wasting time with the electric starter, take off the valve cover and see what is going on. Make sure the valve train is working correctly. The engine definitely does not sound right turning over.

[whitmer1993]

i think ur exhaust valve is stuck shut

[xma456]

briggs and straton mottors are getting shittier every year...

[jvanderman]

yea your right on that i hate the els engines they are made so poorly and cheap

[fable53103]

maybe the engine is seized. Has this lawnmower a kind of operator presence c ontrol? It seems that is always engaged....

[PaGurl511]

i love how when he is on the phone he says he is working on the engine when he is actually killing it and he deffinatly flooded it

[fontheking5]

Isn`t there a handle you need to hold in while you start it ? All my mowers has that and they get super hard to pull if you don`t push them in

[joyza]

prime much

[skyfly51]

Flooded

[skyfly51]

The starter is already gone.

[StupidEarthlings]

need more primer.

Are you really trying to start the thing while you're on the phone?

I pray that it isn't an appointment to fix someones small engine.

[suckerforsweettalk]

jesus! you fail on so many levels! kiss that starter goodbye if you keep that up! and you dont need to pump the whole gas tank into the cylender when trying to start it!

[gokartredneck]

the battery charger is ment to charge a battery, not start an engine.

[rickymcguiganmsncom]

no wonder it wont start......... taker eaasy on the primer you can see fuel comin out the muffler...........

[801jaguarowner]

please do not have kids you are a dumass

[shyster93]

ya i think the cylinder is flooded with gasoline..common with incidents where bees will build a nest in ur air filter plastic and then it will cause ur engine to fill full of gasoline

nice motor btw

[jackiejenkins67]

omg wtf I am a girl and I have never seen something so dumb!!

[davedoggy]

looks like either one of the lifters let go or, one or both rocker arms are wayyy out of adjustment pull the rocker cover and check the valve lashes.

[joshg678]

DO NOT hook the starter directly to a battery charger as that is terrible on the starter.

Hook it directly to a charged battery.

It looks like your flooded and the plug can get spark, so you will at least need to clean the plug and forget the primer

[MRkallek91]

You don´t know a darn thing of engines. "too much compression" IT`S SOAKED! Hands off the primer! only takes 2 to 3 pushes, thats enough. I really don´t believe it´s got busted rings, since compression´s all right. And because it´s a briggs. SERIOUSLY MAN YOU ARE DROWNING IT.

[coolio8444]

gas???

[grizzlybaseballer]

I have this same motor on my snapper pressure washer. Its a great motor.

[fontheking5]

Yes if you know how to start it , sadly this person doesn`t do that . I bet there is a handle you need to push in that he is unaware of sadly .

[Briggsmaster]

thats what i was going to say tour coil is rubbing against the fly wheel

[dsj2212]

too thick oil

[MRkallek91]

thats a ridiculous lie.

[zach1179]

You should use the primer bulb more.

[andy020887]

Valves adjustment, rings or semi- seized

[DanielJaegerFilms]

I'm in the middle of taking it apart, and I've found that the magnetic spark timer is rubbing against the flywheel, hence why it's so hard to crank the engine.

[8tyman8]

its not the spark timer its like a altornator

[MRkallek91]

no not like an alternator, it´s a magnetron. duh?

[8tyman8]

like it carges the batt

[bloodreighn]

@DanielJaegerFilms

haha, yeah, i could hear that, I had a similar problem with a Rover Mower

[abyssunderground]

Its not cranking because thats a battery charger... not a battery! A battery charger can give about, what, 12A at most? That engine probably needs 40-60A, which a battery will give, but a charger won't.

[DanielJaegerFilms]

If you watch the other videos it cranks it.

[kiarra00]

I think it has a bad oil ring on the piston, but the reason why you cant start it, is because the engine is not sitting horizontally, and the oil goes past the ring and into the cylinder!, to start it you make the engine stand up, with the spark plug pointing up (opposite of how its standing now) for a few hours, then the oil will go back into the crankcase, and you can start it!

[DanielJaegerFilms]

Yeah, that might be the case, because when this thing isn't used, you'll notice that the engine doesn't sit level, and oil is probably getting up into the cumbustion chamber.

[2009jimmy2009]

@DanielJaegerFilms no i thought that to but you managed to start it for a while and it was relativley smoke free. if oil or petrol had hydrocked the cylinder there would be a massive clould of blue smoke! plus the oil would soak the plug and would ignite the fuel/air mixture! i would be looking at the timing first!

[suchfunstuff]

With such a stubborn starter, it would lead me to think that the valves are out of adjustment. Compression isn't releasing for starting.

[DanielJaegerFilms]

I'm in the middle of taking it apart, and I've found that the magnetic spark timer is rubbing against the flywheel, hence why it's so hard to crank the engine.